You See, I am a practical Christian. I don't practice Christianity based on what the "Pastors" say, no, but what God says.

Now that we've gotten that out the way, who can tell me explicitly where the Bible, which is the word of God, condemned Polygamy. Anyone?

The Bible condemned a lot of things we have normalized today like fornication, adultery, female "pastors", female "teachers of the word", marrying unbelievers, divorce, girlfriend/boyfriend relationships, h*mos*xuality, drunkenness, female insubmissiveness, abortions, gambling, female or male cross dressing (females now adorn trousers to church puppets), non virgin marriages, you name. But name one verse where God or his messengers talked against polygamy, which was a norm then, just one verse.

I didn't want to talk about the man, Yul Edochie, all these while cos I believe its a no brainer that it should be a private issue, but Yul Edochie is personally one of the men I have come to respect the most in Nigeria. He could have decided and say to his second wife "abort the child" just like Sammie Okposo and a lot of others in secret. But this man owned up to it, admitted it and married the second wife out of love and to give the little one a home.

Men and women are not the same and will never be. Our fore bearers have practiced polygamy for as long as mans existence everywhere around the world even in the west, until now. Yul Edochie has done very well for his live and family and I support him cos polygamy is not a sin. May be with the rate of old unmarried ladies moving about now that is what will cure the moral decadence in our society.

Has even the so called monogamy settled the issue of rampant divorce rates? He did polygamy, Ned Nwoko did it, plenty did it and they are still married. You married one and a loaf of bread has lasted longer than your union.

Yeah right!!

Your religion Christianity borrowed a foreign idea and introduced it into their practice. No one can come out with a concrete(not twisted verses) fact in your bible that kicked against polygamy . The so-called ones practicing monogamy are all over the places with numerous side chickens and dragging hotels and clubs with the single guys, if that isn’t hypocrisy then what is it?

Polygamy is a choice which you shouldn't coerce another into.

There are women who were raised to have no issues ending up married into a polygamous setting based on religion or financial gain. Be bold enough to be upfront with a woman that you intend having other wives after her, if she is okay with your preference she would not have issues with it

Let us not get it twisted that men who are married to more than one wife, do not still have side chicks despite having wives at home.

The baseline is, a man who is promiscuous whether he is married to one wife or to 4 wives will still be having sex with females he is not married to.

Mindlog:
Polygamy is a choice which you shouldn't coerce another into.

At least we agree polygamy isn't the problem right? A man having "side chicks" outside is a sin that should be rejected. But when he is willing and capable of having a second wife it's non of our business.

LocalStandard1:


At least we agree polygamy isn't the problem right? A man having "side chicks" outside is a sin that should be rejected. But when he is willing and capable of having a second wife it's non of our business.

It has never been my business what a man wants to do with his money and his g.e.n.i.t.a.l.i.a but the business of his wife if she chooses not to be numbered.

My first issue with the way Nigerians reacted to Yul Edochie's personal choice of polygamy is one of incredulity.
I mean, I was discussing with a man in Nigeria who was lamenting about school fees for his kids in school.
From what he said, I concluded that Nigerians have abandoned topics that should occupy their attention and even inspire activism.
The energy Nigerians waste on sexual topics (yes this is about SEX, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise!), could have been used to transform the country into a first world country.
Kids in civilized societies attend primary and secondary schools FREE, and even have lunch and take some food home.
In Nigeria, a parent has to fork out N600k in some instances to pay school fees only!
Yet, Nigerians are obsessing over a man's PERSONAL choice of how many pu55ies to fk in the guise of marriage!
This is why Nnamdi Kanu said that (some? or all?) blacks have serious thinking (and reasoning) deficiency problem.

Give me free qualitative schools for my kids, and I won't give a flying fk if you choose to marry ten goats and five chicken!

The irony of the issue is that, it is the women that have suffered most in this dispensation of monogamy.
Go to churches, you see ladies in their 40s unmarried, and without a hope of where a husband will come from.
Single mothers littering everywhere, if polygamy was not frowned at, these women will be settled and have some direction.

Some people like to delude themselves by saying marriage is not everything, very misleading thing to say.
Even abroad, oyinbos take marriage very seriously talkless of Africa, if marriage was not important, why do women keep singing the carry me dey go song.

The summary of it is, westernization has made the life of an average woman worse , but we are not ready yet for this discussion.

oldienavie:
The irony of the issue is that, it is the women that have suffered most in this dispensation of monogamy.
Go to churches, you see ladies in their 40s unmarried, and without a hope of where a husband will come from.
Single mothers littering everywhere, if polygamy was not frowned at, these women will be settled and have some direction.
Some people like to delude themselves by saying marriage is not everything, very misleading thing to say.
Even abroad, oyinbos take marriage very seriously talkless of Africa, if marriage was not important, why do women keep singing the carry me dey go song.
The summary of it is, westernization has made the life of an average woman worse , but we are not ready yet for this discussion.

Thank you! Our ignorance and over willingness to accept any nonsense from so called "whites" is our biggest problem. Asians, Middle Easterners, etc have found or are finding the their footing while reserveing and preserving their beloved cultures and believes. We are on a scramble to accept every sh*t from the west and throw away our own even if it solve actual problems.

Polygamy is not bad, just that it usually comes with problems and chaos, if it's not coming from the first wife, it will definitely come from second or third wife, or the husband, Even Ned who has all the money, some of the wives still left, obviously there are issues not seen that these people face, and some men are their own problem, they lack that wisdom to generally manage a home as the number one person in the family.
Well... polygamy always sound nice and pleasant until when you give it a trial.

oldienavie:
The irony of the issue is that, it is the women that have suffered most in this dispensation of monogamy.
Go to churches, you see ladies in their 40s unmarried, and without a hope of where a husband will come from.
Single mothers littering everywhere, if polygamy was not frowned at, these women will be settled and have some direction.

Some people like to delude themselves by saying marriage is not everything, very misleading thing to say.
Even abroad, oyinbos take marriage very seriously talkless of Africa, if marriage was not important, why do women keep singing the carry me dey go song.

The summary of it is, westernization has made the life of an average woman worse , but we are not ready yet for this discussion.

With almost 7 out of every 10 Nigerians living in abject poverty, 99.5% of bank accounts in Nigeria has N500k and below as balance, where is the financial capacity to cater for those wives and the children by the man?

If Nigeria is a thriving economy where the basics are guaranteed, monogamy, polygamy... marriage in general would less be of a focus.

Once more marriage is not everything and not everyone will get married as some do find their purpose outside it.

Mindlog:


With almost 7 out of every 10 Nigerians living in abject poverty, 99.5% of bank accounts in Nigeria has N500k and below as balance, where is the financial capacity to cater for those wives and the children by the man?

If Nigeria is a thriving economy where the basics are guaranteed, monogamy, polygamy... marriage in general would less be of a focus.

Once more marriage is not everything and not everyone will get married as some do find their purpose outside it.

Your arguement is devoid of logic but awash with emotions.

Sometimes, it seems the rush to imbibe western culture prevents the black man from reasoning . This is something I really respect the Asians for, I had an Indian friend who is a top tech lead in one of the popular North American firms, he didnt see anything wrong in having his parents find a wife for him despite his exposure, look at Rishi Sunak and majority of Asians, despite the exposure, you can tell they are still culturally connected to their roots.

Now to bring it home, look at what is happening in our society, I have more than 10 ladies, well to do who are above 35years old on my neck for marriage.
I really feel sorry for them, a lot of men are just tossing them around, go to churches, look around you, its heart breaking if you hear these ladies stories.

Women have now become the vulnerable and even those who manage to get married are having to endure abuse cos of the no husband thing that monogamy has caused.

When you put emotions aside and analyse the reality, you will agree that majority of women are suffering...

Mindlog:

With almost 7 out of every 10 Nigerians living in abject poverty, 99.5% of bank accounts in Nigeria has N500k and below as balance, where is the financial capacity to cater for those wives and the children by the man?
If Nigeria is a thriving economy where the basics are guaranteed, monogamy, polygamy... marriage in general would less be of a focus.

Miss you are a funny person.

Let me tell you how poor society survives.
In the absence of economic viability if you tell the people to marry and have children you are literally pushing the Society to extinction. You see, numbers is the only chance of a poor society for survival and even it's road to growth.

Many Western countries today are encouraging their citizens to marry and have more children cos without which we are seeing a struggling and dying country and society, most "developed" society are beginning to have that issue.

Yes marriage is important, miss, you should know that you are a social science student. Drop your pride woman.

LocalStandard1:

Miss you are a funny person.

Let me tell you how poor society survives.
In the absence of economic viability if you tell the people to marry and have children you are literally pushing the Society to extinction. You see, numbers is the only chance of a poor society for survival and even it's road to growth.

Many Western countries today are encouraging their citizens to marry and have more children cos without which we are seeing a struggling and dying country and society, most "developed" society are beginning to have that issue.

Yes marriage is important, miss, you should know that you are a social science student. Drop your pride woman.

Wetin concern pride and my position?

Many Western Countries are not encouraging marriage but rather reproduction, having children outside the traditional concept of marriage is a non issue for them, as parents even though unmarried, there are expectations towards the children or Government gets involved by taking the child/children away from the birth family and get them to live under care.

Mindlog:

Wetin concern pride and my position?
Many Western Countries are not encouraging marriage but rather reproduction, having children outside the traditional concept of marriage is a non issue for them, as parents even though unmarried, there are expectations towards the children or Government gets involved by taking the child/children away from the birth family and get them to live under care.

Supporting Children born out of wedlock eh? Don't do that, you are a social scientist, you should know.

LocalStandard1:

Supporting Children born out of wedlock eh? Don't do that, you are a social scientist, you should know.

No be baby daddy and baby mamas trend don dey gain popularity in Nigeria?

Whether a child is born within or outside marriage, is irrelevant to me in my professional capacity. To me, a child's welfare comes first before the parents' marital status.

Mindlog:

No be baby daddy and baby mamas trend don dey gain popularity in Nigeria.
Whether a child is born within or outside marriage, is irrelevant to me in my professional capacity. To me, a child's welfare comes first before the parents' marital status.

Let's not deceive ourselves, to truly care for a child is to give him a real standard home, I despise that "baby daddy/mama" phenomena. But I understand your rationale, you are a "sophisticated, liberal, new world, globalist, woke feminist". We are of a different world view.

LocalStandard1:


Let's not deceive ourselves, to truly care for a child is to give him a real standard home, I despise that "baby daddy/mama" phenomena. But I understand your rationale, you are a "sophisticated, liberal, new world, globalist, woke feminist". We are of a different world view.

You don't "understand" my rationale, neither have you have a clue of what my anchors are.

Mindlog:

You don't "understand" my rationale, neither have you have a clue of what my anchors are.

You don mean it? Don't tell me I am wrong.

oldienavie:

Your arguement is devoid of logic but awash with emotions.

Sometimes, it seems the rush to imbibe western culture prevents the black man from reasoning . This is something I really respect the Asians for, I had an Indian friend who is a top tech lead in one of the popular North American firms, he didnt see anything wrong in having his parents find a wife for him despite his exposure, look at Rishi Sunak and majority of Asians, despite the exposure, you can tell they are still culturally connected to their roots.

Now to bring it home, look at what is happening in our society, I have more than 10 ladies, well to do who are above 35years old on my neck for marriage.
I really feel sorry for them, a lot of men are just tossing them around, go to churches, look around you, its heart breaking if you hear these ladies stories.

Women have now become the vulnerable and even those who manage to get married are having to endure abuse cos of the no husband thing that monogamy has caused.

When you put emotions aside and analyse the reality, you will agree that majority of women are suffering...

Emotions?

Now if a survey as attached is carried out, what do you honestly think would be the outcome?

Mindlog:


You don't "understand" my rationale, neither have you have a clue of what my anchors are.

oldienavie:
The irony of the issue is that, it is the women that have suffered most in this dispensation of monogamy.
Go to churches, you see ladies in their 40s unmarried, and without a hope of where a husband will come from.
Single mothers littering everywhere, if polygamy was not frowned at, these women will be settled and have some direction.

Some people like to delude themselves by saying marriage is not everything, very misleading thing to say.
Even abroad, oyinbos take marriage very seriously talkless of Africa, if marriage was not important, why do women keep singing the carry me dey go song.

The summary of it is, westernization has made the life of an average woman worse , but we are not ready yet for this discussion.

Hmnnn…well said.
Sometimes I think polygamy was in place initially to allow every woman an opportunity to be a wife and a mother to children.

But women see it different, they think the other woman is taking from what she ought to have to herself.

someone needs to research if women in the Middle East predisposed to polygamy at happier than western women?

Better question is

Will women rather be 50, no husband and no child than be 50, married as a second wife with kids?

Yul committed fornication and when the lady got pregnant, he started claiming polygamy afterwards to lessen the scandal. Something he did not discuss with his first wife.

He then scrambled to marry the second wife after the baby had been conceived, the first wife then found out alongside the public.

Even Yul knows he's full of shit, that's why he's on this pity tour disturbing everyone all over social media.

So that's two 'sins' he has committed according to your Christianity, fornication and having a baby out of wedlock.

This whole debacle wouldn't be so cringe if Yul would just own it with his chest, as if men aren't given a pass for cheating regularly in Nigeria, but he wants to pretend he's an 'honourable' man. What a farce lol

Can two work together unless they agree? You marry a woman that wants monogamous family. Years later you decide to convert it to polygamous family without her consent, you think it will work?

Smile4mee01:


Hmnnn…well said.
Sometimes I think polygamy was in place initially to allow every woman an opportunity to be a wife and a mother to children.

But women see it different, they think the other woman is taking from what she ought to have to herself.

someone needs to research if women in the Middle East predisposed to polygamy at happier than western women?

Better question is

Will women rather be 50, no husband and no child than be 50, married as a second wife with kids?

Women do not need to be married to become mothers, they don't automatically become fertile for conception once they get married.

The fact is that Nigerian women do not overwhelming outstrip the men (go google, statistics on Nigeria population have always attributed more men).

The core issue is what I did present in a talk as the shrinking fishing pond. The "fishing pond" (which represents the men who meets the societal cut-off mark for being up to the task of starting and catering for the family) is rapidly shrinking thus the rise in numbers of women who are unmarried.

Check the statistics in different websites, even Nigeria's National Bureau of Statistics still sticks that there are more men in Nigeria than women, so what is that pointing to?

In developmental psychology, it is known that it is easier for males to fall off the "societal appropriateness" ladder than females. From early adulthood, society loses so many males to substance abuse, gangs, crime, police brutality, the prison system and even psychiatric facilities in comparison to females.

In higher education, when faced with financial difficulties more male students are more likely to drop out of school than their female counterparts, who are facing same

After graduation, societal expectations from the males are way higher than their female counterparts and the pace women are becoming more empowered far outstrips that of the males thus as women are climbing higher, less men are met on the way.

This now takes us to Isaiah 4:1

In that day seven women will take hold of one man and say, “We will eat our own bread and provide our own clothes. Just let us be called by your name. Take away our disgrace!”

"We will eat our own bread and provide our own clothes" foretold the economic empowerment of women, they only need to bear Mrs because of societal pressure (not be for oyibo woman sha as 3 of my female colleagues are married to females ) and for 7 women to focus on one man is not a function of women outstripping the number of men alive but scarcity of men whey make sense for their eyes..... quantity dey, na quality eyes dey find.

@mindlog, last statement apt, quantity dey na quality scarce, full stop.

The earlier people realise that Polygamy is best choice to a particular type of people, the better.

One thing I have realise is that, a woman cannot satisfy a man sexual need throughout his life.

There is always peace of mind and progress in Polygamy if there is money and wives live separately.

Women need enough long rest after child delivery, and polygamy offer women this opportunity. A woman who have sex all the time will grow old faster than the one hardly have sex.

Polygamy is the best for both men and women if they are deep thinkers.

Finally, no body should follow this path if not capable to take care of the wives and children.

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Wait first let's leave Yul matter aside he is on his own crying on SM up and down. He knows what's eating him up.

How many men can provide fully for 2 women? NL boys that are shouting up and down supporting polygamy, can they support polygamy financially.

Men are even struggling despite the fact that their wives work full time and also provide now we are talking polygamy, seriously?

Whether your religion supports it or not, it really doesn't make economic sense for an average earner. Everything should not be about sex sex sex because I know that's what's motivating some people, different varieties.

Leave polygamy for the rich, even the rich some of them avoid polygamy even if the religion supports it.

Personally I would never advice my enemy to be a polygamist.

I've come to the conclusion that there are so many slow boys on this forum, because it is so obvious common sense is truly not common

Why is Yul still used as an excuse for polygamy when he has been crying all over social media for self pity, don't you guys reason? This guy had a side chick which is Judy, an ex wife and mother of THREE kids, she got pregnant in the process for Yul, that was when oga remembered he is a polygamous man, he paid her bride price without the consent of May his wife, she found out on Twitter like the rest of us, isnt that a classic case of wickedness? Judy's ex husband then came out to claim the child is his meaning side chick cum 2nd wife was having sex with her ex husband and Yul, who knows what happened next but all of a sudden Yul deleted all Judy's pictures from his IG page, he then went on to explain himself to May on twitter knowing he made a terrible mistake, Judy couldn't even display her ring finger in her Christmas photoshoot because she knows people will mock her if there is no ring there, so tell me how and why Yul's stupidity style polygamy should be emulated and accepted by women?

If you think polygamy is what you hungry sex driven freak show of Nigerian men is what completes your existence and gives you purpose in life as it is obvious you all are talentless, visionless, corrupt filled, kidnappers, Boko Haram, fraud, skull miners, drug kingpins, cannibals, armed robbers and thugs, by all means marry 1000 wives, breed like dogs in this Buhari's regime because you do not want to be different from northerners and almajiri children, by all means go ahead, breed and transfer generational poverty in the process, your life, your business,

But one thing you all should understand is that you cannot force polygamy on women who refuse to accept such trash, if you like cry and wail fire and brimstone, shed bloody tears, gnash your teeth, scream till you loose what is left of your hair, claim it is western culture influencing women as your manipulative excuse, or women are in Shiloh praying for men, it is not your business, their prayer and stand on marriage or what they want for themselves does not affect your existence on Earth, do whatever you want with your marriage let women do whatever they want when married, their life doesn't affect your lifespan and way of life.