chieveboy:
LoL what shame?

Truth is: One who says he knows how Spirit works is sitting on a lot of ignorance because "...no man knows where it it comes and goes" according to Jesus.

LoL what shame.
Look at you conflating 'Do you know how John 14:26 works?' with '"...no man knows where it it comes and goes"' ll

What has 'John 14:26 works?' got to do with '"...no man knows where it it comes and goes"'? You either know how how John 14:26 works or you honestly and truthfully admit, that you 'do not know how John 14:26 works

chieveboy:
Talking about the Holy Spirit, are you aware I am an Eckist?

I am not moved, not impressed by an Eckist claim, because your 'Talking about the Holy Spirit, are you aware I am an Eckist' comment here, does not, incontrovertibly tell, if you know how the letter of John 14:26 works. You get it now?

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

TenQ:
There is no need for tantrums:

Are you taking the biscuits? What you processed as tantrums, are actually expressive observational fact

TenQ:
are people born as pedophiles?

Some people are just too lazy to read beyond one sentence in post

Scroll up to read where I posted ''Now the response to your question, is affirmative, people are born as pedophiles, just as people are born as autistic, just as people are born left handed, just as people are born as homosexual, lesbian, intersex, bisexual et cetera

TenQ:
BTW:
It is a form of sexual preference!

1. What is your sexual preference then?
2. When, what point in time, did you know your sexual preference choice?
3. Why didnt you use telling white lies, stealing, committing adultery, fornication, idolatry, et cetera instead of pedophiles (i.e. pedophilia), which all fall in to sin that has no grading

TenQ:
If people are born as pedophiles, shouldn't we be more understanding and accepting I love and kindness to the afflicted?

You are comparing apples with oranges

Why would any sane person be sympathetic to a pedophile, who is sexually attracted to children and so directs sexual feelings towards children, and be comparing with a homosexual/lesbian, who is sexually attracted to adults of same sex or gender and so not only expresses sexual, love and/or affectionate feelings towards a consenting adult, but is faithful to the consenting adult for life, meaning until death do part them

You are right in saying that society should be more understanding and accepting the love and kindness, two consenting adults, are expressing and giving to each each other, a lifetime dedication and pledge of love faithfulness, affection and companionship to each other, essentially, a relationship until death do part them

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

chieveboy:
That's like saying those born without limbs know their limbs and how to use it. You must pin them down to a sin for onward burning in hell. Carry go!

Do you have any scientific education? Do you know anything about what hormones do? If I must enlighten you:

If you subject a 'normal' male to a process where their estrogen level is increased beyond that which leaves them as conventional male, they would start developing bo.obs. This is no new I formation for Pete's sake. People do this artificially and get this result.

Let's hear you wisdom on why someone born male would begin to act female right from childhood or develop bo.obs as in the picture above.

Janosky:
There is no proof that every man with developed boobs like a woman's is actually gay or every woman with manly features is into females.

Why looking for proof, when it is clear that not, every man with developed boobs like a woman's is actually gay (i.e. sexually and romantically attracted to men) or every woman with manly features is into females (i.e. (i.e. sexually and romantically attracted to females)

Janosky:
Sexual practices is the result of choices people make.
1 Corinthians 6:9-11 is very clear about that.
Do you get it?

Do you get it, that what Apostle Paul with 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 was clear about is, promiscuity and thats in respect of sexual orientation, meaning, whether in a heterosexual capacity, homosexual/lesbian or bisexual/interesex capacity

1 Corinthians 6:9-11, together and in cooperation with Romans 1:26-27 and even 1 Timothy 1:10 too, in fact is a rehash of Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13, but with a twist included that's highlighted, in Romans 1:26-27

The sexual immoralities et cetera, hinted in 1 Corinthians 6:9-11, is not exclusive nor peculiar to homosexuality alone but till tomorrow equally happens in heterosexual settings as well.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11, is not in anyway, knocking committed faithful, affection same sex relationship between two consenting adults loving each other for life, essentially until death do part them

Just recently, part of 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 played out, when an Ifa priest from Ekiti State, untimely met his death from having sexual escapades with a pastor's wife, and not knowing that, allegedly, her husband had placed magun on her (i.e. laced her with native magic spell that causes death by thunderbolt to whoever has sex with the pastor's wife besides him, the pastor)

NATIVE DOCTOR SLUMP, DIES DURING SEX ROMP WITH PASTOR'S WIFE
https://punchng.com/herbalist-dies-during-sex-with-ekiti-pastors-wife/

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:


Why looking for proof, when it is clear that not, every man with developed boobs like a woman's is actually gay (i.e. sexually and romantically attracted to men) or every woman with manly features is into females (i.e. (i.e. sexually and romantically attracted to females)

We're talking about things hormonal imbalances leads to, asides a man having bo.obs and not being or being gay!

Proofs allow us to fully understand nature so we can stop killing two babies born at once, and stop seeing women with beards as witches and so on.

If a man can have bo.obs, isn't that weird or out of place enough for the possiblity of that man not being attracted to women but men?

Do you get it, that what Apostle Paul with 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 was clear about is, promiscuity and thats in respect of sexual orientation, meaning, whether in a heterosexual capacity, homosexual/lesbian or bisexual/interesex capacity

1 Corinthians 6:9-11, together and in cooperation with Romans 1:26-27 and even 1 Timothy 1:10 too, in fact is a rehash of Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13, but with a twist included that's highlighted, in Romans 1:26-27

The sexual immoralities et cetera, hinted in 1 Corinthians 6:9-11, is not exclusive nor peculiar to homosexuality alone but till tomorrow equally happens in heterosexual settings as well.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11, is not in anyway, knocking committed faithful, affection same sex relationship between two consenting adults loving each other for life, essentially until death do part them

Just recently, part of 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 played out, when an Ifa priest from Ekiti State, untimely met his death from having sexual escapades with a pastor's wife, and not knowing that, allegedly, her husband had placed magun on her (i.e. laced her with native magic spell that causes death by thunderbolt to whoever has sex with the pastor's wife besides him, the pastor)

NATIVE DOCTOR SLUMP, DIES DURING SEX ROMP WITH PASTOR'S WIFE
https://punchng.com/herbalist-dies-during-sex-with-ekiti-pastors-wife/

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Here you sound like nature or creation is tied to the thoughts and ideas of Mr Paul. Thanks to more accurate information, I will listen to an expert today rather than consult the thoughts and beliefs of a guy who was learning the basics of life below what we have today.

You also sounded like because a native doctor died while having sex with a pastor's wife, that becomes a law of creation. The fallacy and idiocy in that line of reasoning would not consider that people have died having sex with their wives as well. For you, it's just about looking for some crooked and inconsistent pointers to the legitimacy of your weak arguments, doctrines and beliefs.

Morals are not divine laws but laws created by men you control men. Men get too intoxicated by these morals and develop religious phobias that turns them to animals. Look at what's happening in Iran, killing someone because a part of their body was visible .

NNTR:
LoL what shame.
Look at you conflating 'Do you know how John 14:26 works?' with '"...no man knows where it it comes and goes"' ll

What has 'John 14:26 works?' got to do with '"...no man knows where it it comes and goes"'? You either know how how John 14:26 works or you honestly and truthfully admit, that you 'do not know how John 14:26 works

John 3:8 "The wind blows wherever it wants. Just as you can hear the wind but can’t tell where it comes from or where it is going, so you can’t explain how people are born of the Spirit"

The above was what was quoted and simplified for you. You learnt from man that energy can neither be created no destroyed. That's just a tip of the iceberg for the Holy Spirit (ECK).

Did you learn anything about John 3:8? It says an ordinary man born of spirit is not fathomable, how come you knew how the spirit 'gan' works? Laugh at any one who thinks they have fully grasped ECK. Funny how you kept hammering on "do you know how John 14:26 works"

I deliberately was avoiding us having that discussion because I know you do not know what you're saying.

I am not moved, not impressed by an Eckist claim, because your 'Talking about the Holy Spirit, are you aware I am an Eckist' comment here, does not, incontrovertibly tell, if you know how the letter of John 14:26 works. You get it now?

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

It's really moving though how you know how John 14:26 works

I am open to learn from you since you persist.

[quote author=Janosky post=119803679]

Oga, she is a female not hermaphrodite.

Indeed she is. A woman who has a pen.nis


[quote] You don't have to be religious to understand that man has limitations or abnormalities of hormones , limbs etc.

So why then are people with limitations persecuted by the religious?

When e be like Panadol no mean say nah Panadol.

There is no proof that every man with developed boobs like a woman's is actually gay or every woman with manly features is into females.

You will admit it that man can be born with bo.obs and not love it when someone caresses them las las or a girl born with Pen.nis and not like to have a taste of a tight vag.ina.

More tongue-in-cheek;

1: It is not possible for a man born with too much estrogen to not feel female. The hormone will just sit there in their body without it's inherent reactions.

Jehova Rafa will allow the man be born with the hormone of a woman, but he will stop it's reaction so as not to result in a gay person .

He allows being born with two heads, and women with dic*k and vagi.na at the same time, but you see being born with gender confusion, it is impossible for him.

Sexual practices is the result of choices people make.
1 Corinthians 6:9-11 is very clear about that.
Do you get it?

Yeah, that nice little choice the boy with bo.ob and the girl with pen.nis had.

chieveboy:


This is coming from this topic: https://www.nairaland.com/7513005/kenyan-gayright-activist-chiloba-killed

Fun fact: You will wind up giving birth to one that you would love dearly and can't help or...

you might reincarnate as one to balance the hate or torture you did directly or indirectly to any of such persons (gay, deaf, albinos, crippled, poor, short, etc). People reincarnate to balance stinginess or to balance the taking of life to saving it (as doctors).

It doesn't matter if you did it for a 'just' cause or if its purportedly sanctioned by a "God". Perhaps we need more lecture to assimilate the "Must" in the statement: "Whatever you sow, you Must reap". Death absolves no man.

Cont...

Nobody is given birth to as gay. It's demonic possession ( I'm not just being religious).

It's a deception of Satan that once you're born as a gay that's all, it's a lie, the person is possessed by demonic spirits and simple deliverance will cure the person. We've seen several cases.

michaelwestern:


Nobody is given birth to as gay. It's demonic possession ( I'm not just being religious).

It's a deception of Satan that once you're born as a gay that's all, it's a lie, the person is possessed by demonic spirits and simple deliverance will cure the person. We've seen several cases.

That must have been quite a sight. Do you also take care of people born like this boy please?

chieveboy:

That must have been quite a sight. Do you also take care of people born like this boy please?

What do you think about him?
Will you jubilate giving birth to such a child or you'll see his birth as a CURSE on your family?

Remember everyone in the neighbourhood will be scared of your son.


So do you think God purposely created him like this or it's due to complications during his growth as a fetus in the womb?

NNTR:


Why looking for proof, when it is clear that not, every man with developed boobs like a woman's is actually gay (i.e. sexually and romantically attracted to men) or every woman with manly features is into females (i.e. (i.e. sexually and romantically attracted to females)

Do you get it, that what Apostle Paul with 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 was clear about is, promiscuity and thats in respect of sexual orientation, meaning, whether in a heterosexual capacity, homosexual/lesbian or bisexual/interesex capacity

1 Corinthians 6:9-11, together and in cooperation with Romans 1:26-27 and even 1 Timothy 1:10 too, in fact is a rehash of Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13, but with a twist included that's highlighted, in Romans 1:26-27

The sexual immoralities et cetera, hinted in 1 Corinthians 6:9-11, is not exclusive nor peculiar to homosexuality alone but till tomorrow equally happens in heterosexual settings as well.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11, is not in anyway, knocking committed faithful, affection same sex relationship between two consenting adults loving each other for life, essentially until death do part them

Just recently, part of 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 played out, when an Ifa priest from Ekiti State, untimely met his death from having sexual escapades with a pastor's wife, and not knowing that, allegedly, her husband had placed magun on her (i.e. laced her with native magic spell that causes death by thunderbolt to whoever has sex with the pastor's wife besides him, the pastor)

NATIVE DOCTOR SLUMP, DIES DURING SEX ROMP WITH PASTOR'S WIFE
https://punchng.com/herbalist-dies-during-sex-with-ekiti-pastors-wife/

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Your responses are too lengthy and vague, it's difficult to get your points. I assume you're trying to say that homosexuality is not different from any other sin, which is true.

The problem with homosexuality though is that they think they're not committing sin and it's just a sexual orientation. An adulterer or fornicator knows that he's living in sin and tries to make adjustments but an homosexual doesn't.

MaxInDHouse:


What do you think about him?
Will you jubilate giving birth to such a child or you'll see his birth as a CURSE on your family?

Remember everyone in the neighbourhood will be scared of your son.


So do you think God purposely created him like this or it's due to complications during his growth as a fetus in the womb?

LoL, in a certain Bible, it was said it happens so God will be glorified after a certain savior was asked this very question.

I am actually the one who's you guest and not how you're posing the question. LoL.

chieveboy:


That must have been quite a sight. Do you also take care of people born like this boy please?

There's no relationship between physical abnormalities and homosexuality. I really don't get the point you're trying to make.

Are gays physically abnormal?

michaelwestern:

Your responses are too lengthy and vague, it's difficult to get your points. I assume you're trying to say that homosexuality is not different from any other sin, which is true.
The problem with homosexuality though is that they think they're not committing sin and it's just a sexual orientation. An adulterer or fornicator knows that he's living in sin and tries to make adjustments but an homosexual doesn't.

They know but they're trying to prove to the society that what they're doing is normal.

How many families around the world will like to get married into a family of homosexuals or lesbians?
Will you be comfortable with you son or daughter (though not marrying as a lesbian or homosexual) getting married to a member of the family where some of your in-laws are homosexuals and lesbians?
Will you like your grandchild to be raised in the midst of such people?

Ọmọ they know they're not normal but just as God's word foretold:

But wicked men and impostors will advance from bad to worse, misleading and being misled 2Timothy 3:1-5, 13

Many of these people now claims they are ministers of God's word! Matthew 24:11-12

michaelwestern:


There's no relationship between physical abnormalities and homosexuality. I really don't get the point you're trying to make.

Are gays physically abnormal?

Can we agree on the definition of what is normal all the time?

chieveboy:
We're talking about things hormonal imbalances lead to asides a man having bo.obs and not being or being gay!

Proofs allow us to fully understand nature so we can stop killing two babies born at once, and stop seeing women with beards as witches and so on.

If a man can have bo.obs, isn't that weird or out of place enough for the possiblity of that man not being attracted to women but men?

Calm down Mr self confessed Eckist
Kk. All humans begin life in the womb as females. This is the reason why nipples are formed on all foetuses. Now it is because of the Y- chromosomes, that the breast on males, are stopped from becoming fully growing (i.e. the reason why they are underdeveloped)

Epigenetics, like I've earlier subtly shared reveals how genetic changes occur, that leads to having same sex sexual attraction. Same sex sexual attraction is not the same as body effect caused by hormonal imbalance due to low, high or lack of estrogen and testosterone levels.

While in boarding house, I have lived with effeminate males before, who are only attracted to women, even, the last time, I checked, know of at least two of them, who are happily married to women and have kids

The more 2023 Mary Slessors we continue to have, less twins infanticides we have. The more 2023 Anja Ringgren Lovén we continue to have, the more protection and rescuing of children accused of being witches we have. Ignorance and biblical illiteracy are bastards

chieveboy:
Here you sound like nature or creation is tied to the thoughts and ideas of Mr Paul.

If thats is how you're capable of processing the info so far shared on this thread, then please, freely be my guest

chieveboy:
Thanks to more accurate information,

Insincere, plastic and hollow gratitude, will never take you places here on earth and in life beyond

chieveboy:
I will listen to an expert today rather than consult the thoughts and beliefs of a guy who was learning the basics of life below what we have today.

What a pointless discussion with somebody utterly ignorant on the subject matter and whats entailed with it

chieveboy:
You also sounded like because a native doctor died while having sex with a pastor's wife, that becomes a law of creation. The fallacy and idiocy in that line of reasoning would not consider that people have died having sex with their wives as well. For you, it's just about looking for some crooked and inconsistent pointers to the legitimacy of your weak arguments, doctrines and beliefs.

This like trying to play chess with a pigeon

Look at you, knocking the pieces all over the board, ṣhit on the board, and before flying off, back to your flock, strut on the board to claim a quasi victory.

chieveboy:
Morals are not divine laws but laws created by men you control men. Men get too intoxicated by these morals and develop religious phobias that turns them to animals.

Obviously the essence of Hebrews 10:16 and Romans 2:11-15 went above your head

chieveboy:
Look at what's happening in Iran, killing someone because a part of their body was visible .

When you look at Iran and this particular horror of killing someone because a part of their body was visible, please tell what good and greatest quality, do you think you have that makes you not behave in such horrendous manner like that. Hmm?

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

chieveboy:
John 3:8 "The wind blows wherever it wants. Just as you can hear the wind but can’t tell where it comes from or where it is going, so you can’t explain how people are born of the Spirit"

The above was what was quoted and simplified for you. You learnt from man that energy can neither be created no destroyed. That's just a tip of the iceberg for the Holy Spirit (ECK).

Did you learn anything about John 3:8? It says an ordinary man born of spirit is not fathomable, how come you knew how the spirit 'gan' works? Laugh at any one who thinks they have fully grasped ECK. Funny how you kept hammering on "do you know how John 14:26 works"

chieveboy:
I deliberately was avoiding us having that discussion because I know you do not know what you're saying.

You deliberately and calculatingly was avoiding us having that discussion, and have it prolonged and in depth because you know, its not only that your sail will run out of wind, but your cover will be blown opened and your yansh will be left exposed

chieveboy:
It's really moving though how you know how John 14:26 works

John 14:26, says on its tin, exactly how the Spirit, in the question, which is the John 14:26 context, works. Its really moving to see that, you were unable to translate it transparently

chieveboy:
I am open to learn from you since you persist.

The means of learning are abundant, it’s sincerity and true desire to learn, that is scarce.

I am not moved by insincerity, besides Matthew 7:6 has my hands tied

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

michaelwestern:


There's no relationship between physical abnormalities and homosexuality.

That's what we're saying all the while. People sitting on a lot of ignorance formulating laws, doctrines, religions and beliefs that dictates the lives of others.

Here, you are implicitly declaring that people only suffer physical abnormalities. Any other abnormality (that is not physical) is a lie .

By your wisdom, non physical abnormality like insulin deficiency, (internal chemical imbalance) is a hoax.

What really gives birth to physical abnormalities? Is not non 'physical' abnormalities, where the internal abnormalities results in distorted limbs distorted Instruments, behavior, capabilities and all that?

I really don't get the point you're trying to make.

It will take you a while to obviously.

Are gays physically abnormal?

What do they seem to you?

HellVictorinho6:



Can we agree on the definition of what is normal all the time?

You're missing my point.

Is there any physical/observable feature of a gay person?

NNTR:
Are you taking the biscuits? What you processed as tantrums, are actually expressive observational fact

Some people are just too lazy to read beyond one sentence in post

Scroll up to read where I posted ''Now the response to your question, is affirmative, people are born as pedophiles, just as people are born as autistic, just as people are born left handed, just as people are born as homosexual, lesbian, intersex, bisexual et cetera

1. What is your sexual preference then?
2. When, what point in time, did you know your sexual preference choice?
3. Why didnt you use telling white lies, stealing, committing adultery, fornication, idolatry, et cetera instead of pedophiles (i.e. pedophilia), which all fall in to sin that has no grading

You are comparing apples with oranges

Why would any sane person be sympathetic to a pedophile, who is sexually attracted to children and so directs sexual feelings towards children, and be comparing with a homosexual/lesbian, who is sexually attracted to adults of same sex or gender and so not only expresses sexual, love and/or affectionate feelings towards a consenting adult, but is faithful to the consenting adult for life, meaning until death do part them

You are right in saying that society should be more understanding and accepting the love and kindness, two consenting adults, are expressing and giving to each each other, a lifetime dedication and pledge of love faithfulness, affection and companionship to each other, essentially, a relationship until death do part them

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

You claim that homosexuals are born just as pedophiles.

It simply means that it is NOT their choice just as you can't blame the blind for not seeing.

In other words, what is good for the goose is also good for the gander. If we indulge the homosexuals, why shouldn't we indulge the pedophiles. Can you blame a man who is sexually attracted to a child? Can such a man help his attraction to children? We can provide a safe environment and guidelines for which such a man can practice his pedophilic behaviours without harming children: don't you think so?

I am sure you will say that stealing is a choice a person makes rather than an attribute in the genetic makeup of a person.

NNTR:


You deliberately and calculatingly was avoiding us having that discussion, and have it prolonged and in depth because you know, its not only that your sail will run out of wind, but your cover will be blown opened and your yansh will be left exposed

John 14:26, says on its tin, exactly how the Spirit, in the question, which is the John 14:26 context, works. Its really moving to see that, you were unable to translate it transparently

The means of learning are abundant, it’s sincerity and true desire to learn, that is scarce.

I am not moved by insincerity, besides Matthew 7:6 has my hands tied

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Define the female

then remember that quoting the Bible doesn't make anyone special

chieveboy:
That must have been quite a sight. Do you also take care of people born like this boy please?

michaelwestern:
There's no relationship between physical abnormalities and homosexuality. I really don't get the point you're trying to make.

Are gays physically abnormal?

At last, somebody with a voice of reason has turned up on the thread

I told him to remove the graphic snapshot, but bloated ego wont allow the request be granted

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

NNTR:



I am not moved by insincerity, besides Matthew 7:6 has my hands tied

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Obviously, it's not just your hands that are tied...

Liberation is still attainable though.

chieveboy:



That's what we're saying all the while. People sitting on a lot of ignorance formulating laws, doctrines, religions and beliefs that dictates the lives of others.

Here, you are implicitly declaring that people only suffer physical abnormalities. Any other abnormality (that is not physical) is a lie .

By your wisdom, non physical abnormality like insulin deficiency, (internal chemical imbalance) is a hoax.

What really gives birth to physical abnormalities? Is not non 'physical' abnormalities, where the internal abnormalities results in distorted limbs distorted Instruments, behavior, capabilities and all that?



It will take you a while to obviously.



What do they seem to you?

I never said that people only suffer from physical abnormalities stop trying to shift the goal post.

People suffer from depression, schizophrenia, homosexuality etc. They all have demonic undertones.

And I know they're some hormonal abnormalities in depressed people but it's still demonic.

Jesus Christ healed some diseases by casting out demons. So even some physical illness have demonic causes.

TenQ:

You claim that homosexuals are born just as pedophiles.

It simply means that it is NOT their choice just as you can't blame the blind for not seeing.

In other words, what is good for the goose is also good for the gander. If we indulge the homosexuals, why shouldn't we indulge the pedophiles. Can you blame a man who is sexually attracted to a child? Can such a man help his attraction to children? We can provide a safe environment and guidelines for which such a man can practice his pedophilic behaviours without harming children: don't you think so?

I am sure you will say that stealing is a choice a person makes rather than an attribute in the genetic makeup of a person.

No feeling is a choice

But the degree of the effect of your display of the feeling is an issue


So, the feeling is still an issue even if not chosen.


We may not agree on how the reaction to the display of a certain feeling should be.


If I ask you about your son or daughter.., you may not respond.

If you respond,...it may be with you suspecting me of trying to harm.


You might actually see the question as a threat or an attempt to attack



If I keep asking, you may involve the police.


If you involve the police or anything else to attack me.., the outcome won't be amazing.


Inside of me.... I will be like...., whatever this means..

michaelwestern:
Your responses are too lengthy and vague,

Even if it were to be curtailed, it still will vague

michaelwestern:
it's difficult to get your points. I assume you're trying to say that homosexuality is not different from any other sin, which is true.

Of course, homosexuality in a dedicated faithful and affectionate committed relationship between two consenting adults is only not a sin, but also is not wicked, is not evil, is not harming children, is not harming animals and is not harming the environment

michaelwestern:
The problem with homosexuality though is that they think they're not committing sin and it's just a sexual orientation. An adulterer or fornicator knows that he's living in sin and tries to make adjustments but an homosexual doesn't.

Adultery or fornication cuts across each sexual orientation. The way adjustments are in made is to stay far away from promiscuity, e.g. no jumping from one bed to another, be faithful, be loyal, run from philandering et cetera

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

michaelwestern:


You're missing my point.

Is there any physical/observable feature of a gay person?

No.

It's a matter of behavior.

Observable can also mean behavioural.

michaelwestern:


I never said that people only suffer from physical abnormalities stop trying to shift the goal post.

You're actually the one shifting...if

There's no relationship between physical abnormalities and homosexuality.
/quote], then it's not possible to have disease. Homosexuality is an internal (non physical) abnormality like the examples you gave below. They result in physical behaviors like belligerence, phobias and sexuality confusion, so they relate on the internal-external manifestation cycle. I am sure you never saw that.


[quote]
People suffer from depression, schizophrenia, homosexuality etc. They all have demonic undertones.

And I know they're some hormonal abnormalities in depressed people but it's still demonic.
[quote]

So can you bind the demon out of the boy with bo.obs and they will be okay then? How about the demon for those born without limbs, or Conjoined?

[quote]
Jesus Christ healed some diseases by casting out demons. So even some physical illness have demonic causes.

Everyone is responsible for their predicament.

HellVictorinho6:


No.

It's a matter of behavior.

Observable can also mean behavioural.

My reply was to the guy comparing homosexuality to physical deformities.

There are abnormal behaviours too but all this classifications are subjective. I just go with the Bible. And the Bible clearly describes homosexuality as a sexual perversion and sin.

michaelwestern:


My reply was to the guy comparing homosexuality to physical deformities.

There are abnormal behaviours too but all this classifications are subjective. I just go with the Bible. And the Bible clearly describes homosexuality as a sexual perversion and sin.

Can we always agree on what an abnormal behavior is?

NNTR:
Even if it were to be curtailed, it still will vague

Of course, homosexuality in dedicated faithful and affectionate committed relationship between two consenting adults is only not a sin, but also is not wicked, is not evil, is not harming children, is not harming animals and is not harming the environment

Adultery or fornication cuts across each sexual orientation. The way adjustments are in made is to stay far away from promiscuity, e.g. no jumping from one bed to another, be faithful, be loyal, run from philandering et cetera

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Homosexuality is a sin

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. Romans :26-27

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Can we always agree on what an abnormal behavior is?

It's difficult with psychology but the Bible is very clear