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Re: Doctors Leaving UK To Work In Other Countries For Better Pay, Working Conditions by gbengaeed(m): 7:01pm On Jan 10, 2023
ibkayee:

The substandard pay and working conditions in the UK is paradise compared to what you’ll get in Nigeria.

So the grass may not have been great in itself, but it’s definitely greener than the sludge in Nigeria

What about the education fee? Can you compare both.
Re: Doctors Leaving UK To Work In Other Countries For Better Pay, Working Conditions by ibkayee(f): 7:15pm On Jan 10, 2023
gbengaeed:


What about the education fee? Can you compare both.
We’re talking about people who have already passed through tertiary education, are trained etc. Education is a different topic

UK - Free primary and secondary education, subsidised tertiary education (student loans, grants, scholarships)

Nigeria - I don’t know much about school fees in Nigeria beyond public schools are obviously a lot cheaper than private (naturally), but I doubt they have adequate schemes (if any) to help fund the education of the average person

Again, I’m not saying UK is a dreamland, just pointing out the MANY areas it’s better/more conducive than Nigeria
Re: Doctors Leaving UK To Work In Other Countries For Better Pay, Working Conditions by Pakute: 7:15pm On Jan 10, 2023
ibkayee:

I thought ‘Olobe’ was an insult, sorry for insulting you.

Yeah the same ‘greatness’ taking leaders to doctors abroad instead of in their own country.

I’m not boasting about being abroad, I just don’t think it’s unreasonable to prefer a place that offers better working and living conditions.
You thought Olobe was an insult, you see what you're very done to yourself, you've lost your root and i don't even pity you a bit. If i want to insult you, i would do it in the language you understand, without hiding it.
And yeah, we are building Nigeria back to greatness when the king of Saudi came to the country for medical, when foreign students were heads over heels studying here. And listen to me, UK is not offering us nothing, we simply getting what rightfully belonged to us.
Re: Doctors Leaving UK To Work In Other Countries For Better Pay, Working Conditions by ibkayee(f): 7:17pm On Jan 10, 2023
Pakute:

You thought Olobe was an insult, you see what you're very done to yourself, you've lost your root and i don't even pity you a bit. If i want to insult you, i would do it in the language you understand, without hiding it.
And yeah, weare building Nigeria back to greatness when the king of Saudi came the country for medical, when foreign students were heads over heels studying here. And listen to me, UK is not offering us nothing, we simply getting what rightfully belonged to us.
I want greatness for Nigeria too but I’m just realistic.

Anyway good luck with your building
Re: Doctors Leaving UK To Work In Other Countries For Better Pay, Working Conditions by emorse(m): 9:30pm On Jan 10, 2023
ibkayee:

The substandard pay and working conditions in the UK is paradise compared to what you’ll get in Nigeria.

So the grass may not have been great in itself, but it’s definitely greener than the sludge in Nigeria
The "so called" greenery is not a product of chance now, is it? More likely, it's a product of deliberate efforts. Anyway, I'm happy for those that have absconded and grateful to those who have decided to stay back to tend to our grass.
Re: Doctors Leaving UK To Work In Other Countries For Better Pay, Working Conditions by ibkayee(f): 9:32pm On Jan 10, 2023
emorse:

The "so called" greenery is not a product of chance now, is it? More likely, it's a product of deliberate efforts. Anyway, I'm happy for those that have absconded and grateful to those who have decided to stay back to tend to our grass.
Great stuff
Re: Doctors Leaving UK To Work In Other Countries For Better Pay, Working Conditions by emorse(m): 9:42pm On Jan 10, 2023
ibkayee:

We’re talking about people who have already passed through tertiary education, are trained etc. Education is a different topic

UK - Free primary and secondary education, subsidised tertiary education (student loans, grants, scholarships)

Nigeria - I don’t know much about school fees in Nigeria beyond public schools are obviously a lot cheaper than private (naturally), but I doubt they have adequate schemes (if any) to help fund the education of the average person

Again, I’m not saying UK is a dreamland, just pointing out the MANY areas it’s better/more conducive than Nigeria
It costs less than N1m. (about $1400 - $2,300) to train a doctor in a federal school in Nigeria. Same medical degree costs between $50,000 and $450,000 in the UK. Correct me if I'm wrong please.
Re: Doctors Leaving UK To Work In Other Countries For Better Pay, Working Conditions by ibkayee(f): 9:56pm On Jan 10, 2023
emorse:

It costs less than N1m. (about $1400 - $2,300) to train a doctor in a federal school in Nigeria. Same medical degree costs between $50,000 and $450,000 in the UK. Correct me if I'm wrong please.
It’s around £40k - £50k (5 years) for tuition fees only, in the UK. Usually paid with a student loan which you pay back monthly once you earn above a certain threshold (9% of your income above the threshold)
Re: Doctors Leaving UK To Work In Other Countries For Better Pay, Working Conditions by emorse(m): 12:27am On Jan 11, 2023
ibkayee:

It’s around £40k - £50k (5 years) for tuition fees only, in the UK. Usually paid with a student loan which you pay back monthly once you earn above a certain threshold (9% of your income above the threshold)
I wasn't so far off the lower end after all.
Re: Doctors Leaving UK To Work In Other Countries For Better Pay, Working Conditions by ibkayee(f): 12:31am On Jan 11, 2023
emorse:

I wasn't so far off the lower end after all.
Yeah just a £400k difference on the max
Re: Doctors Leaving UK To Work In Other Countries For Better Pay, Working Conditions by FreeStuffsNG: 10:43am On Jan 11, 2023
emorse:

It costs less than N1m. (about $1400 - $2,300) to train a doctor in a federal school in Nigeria. Same medical degree costs between $50,000 and $450,000 in the UK. Correct me if I'm wrong please.
Please where on earth did you value the cost of training in Nigeria as less than N1m?
I just smh at how naive most of you are about real cost of training a graduate in a govt. university.

It is way far more expensive! As at late mid 90s, FG spends over 200k annually on a basic science course and about N1m for the student to complete a 4- year degree. By now, it will cost as much as N2m annually to train an undergraduate in a top rated federal university like UNILAG.

It will cost FG nothing less than between N12m-N15m to train a basic science degree undergraduate in a school like UNILAG
Re: Doctors Leaving UK To Work In Other Countries For Better Pay, Working Conditions by emorse(m): 12:19pm On Jan 11, 2023
FreeStuffsNG:

Please where on earth did you value the cost of training in Nigeria as less than N1m?
I just smh at how naive most of you are about real cost of training a graduate in a govt. university.

It is way far more expensive! As at late mid 90s, FG spends over 200k annually on a basic science course and about N1m for the student to complete a 4- year degree. By now, it will cost as much as N2m annually to train an undergraduate in a top rated federal university like UNILAG.

It will cost FG nothing less than between N12m-N15m to train a basic science degree undergraduate in a school like UNILAG
Are you the federal government? How much do students get to pay?

@ the bolded. Come on now! Does it cost that much even in private schools?
Re: Doctors Leaving UK To Work In Other Countries For Better Pay, Working Conditions by FreeStuffsNG: 12:36pm On Jan 11, 2023
emorse:

Are you the federal government? How much do students get to pay?

@ the bolded. Come on now! Does it cost that much even in private schools?
Sir, if you attend any of the top schools like UNILAG, UI in prime city locations with exceptional highly trained members of academia and rich library, you can relate to that my conservative cost. Just accommodation in Akoka in a year with full service charge will cost you not less than N500k in a year yet an undergraduate pays N90. Add the cost of paying those highly trained academics (FG and UNILAG sponsor some of these overseas trainings) then access to journals you may have to pay to buy or subscribe to and those highly expensive scientific equipment. I recall using one of such in UNILAG and paid just for the printing of the result of the analysis by this very expensive advanced tech machine. If I were to do it outside UNILAG, I will pay almost 1000 times what I paid! All these private universities do not have such equipment. Govt is still the biggest spender in education.

To train an undergraduate by FG in a school like UNILAG may actually be between N15m to N20m for basic science 4-year degree but FG charges less than N200K for the whole program.A very heavy discount! That is why a school like UNILAG is very very competitive; you can not enjoy such huge subsidy if you do not know what you are doing o.
Re: Doctors Leaving UK To Work In Other Countries For Better Pay, Working Conditions by emorse(m): 12:55pm On Jan 11, 2023
FreeStuffsNG:

Sir, if you attend any of the top schools like UNILAG, UI in prime city locations with exceptional highly trained members of academia and rich library, you can relate to that my conservative cost. Just accommodation in Akoka in a year with full service charge will cost you not less than N500k in a year yet an undergraduate pays N90. Add the cost of paying those highly trained academics (FG and UNILAG sponsor some of these overseas trainings) then access to journals you may have to pay to buy or subscribe to and those highly expensive scientific equipment. I recall using one of such in UNILAG and paid just for the printing of the result of the analysis by this very expensive advanced tech machine. If I were to do it outside UNILAG, I will pay almost 1000 times what I paid! All these private universities do not have such equipment. Govt is still the biggest spender in education.

To train an undergraduate by FG in a school like UNILAG may actually be between N15m to N20m for basic science 4-year degree but FG charges less than N200K for the whole program.A very heavy discount! That is why a school like UNILAG is very very competitive; you can not enjoy such huge subsidy if you do not know what you are doing o.
How much do the students get to pay? That is a very straight forward question o.

If you study medicine and surgery in a federal university in Nigeria, you pay way less than a million naira. If you study in the UK, you'll pay between £40k - £50k (It could rise way higher depending on several factors). These are simple verifiable facts.

You obviously misinterpreted my statement on the cost of training.

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