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Re: Most Of The Global Layoffs Have Been In Tech by sgtponzihater1(m): 5:10pm On Jan 29, 2023
thebosstrevor1:
Like literally, most of the global layoff all over the world including Nigeria have been in the tech industry, from twitter, coinbase, amazon, jumai to Quidax.

Seems like tech businesses aren't recession proof.

First and foremost the businesses in tech are over valued because of speculation and ipo purposes, they employ a lot of people and then when recession comes, they are always the first to layoff lot of workers.

Till today, i still dont understand why tech companies will have 5k to 50k workers.

Back in the days, you only need 5 to 10 employees to run a very successful tech business. And most of these businesses were profitable.

Apt. Most of the tech businesses were overvalued. We may not have heard the last of these lay offs.

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Re: Most Of The Global Layoffs Have Been In Tech by Advancedman(m): 5:10pm On Jan 29, 2023
thebosstrevor1:
Like literally, most of the global layoff all over the world including Nigeria have been in the tech industry, from twitter, coinbase, amazon, jumai to Quidax.

Seems like tech businesses aren't recession proof.

First and foremost the businesses in tech are over valued because of speculation and ipo purposes, they employ a lot of people and then when recession comes, they are always the first to layoff lot of workers.

Till today, i still dont understand why tech companies will have 5k to 50k workers.

Back in the days, you only need 5 to 10 employees to run a very successful tech business. And most of these businesses were profitable.

Anything built on capitalism lie are all scam and destined to collapse.

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Re: Most Of The Global Layoffs Have Been In Tech by sircatherine45(m): 5:12pm On Jan 29, 2023
The reason why they are global layoffs is that AI will do what 10k employees will do, efficiently and timely.

As a research writer, my job is at stake. I used chatGPT to write a project on computer hardware business. Within 1 minute, it gave me a fantastic and excellent paper. I sold it to a student in a university and she got an A.

Imagine if chatGPT is connected to Google. That's may be the end (or not) of my research writing.

And who said you could run a tech company with less than 10 employees?

Dey play, you hear?

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Re: Most Of The Global Layoffs Have Been In Tech by excanny: 5:12pm On Jan 29, 2023
thebosstrevor1:
Like literally, most of the global layoff all over the world including Nigeria have been in the tech industry, from twitter, coinbase, amazon, jumai to Quidax.

Seems like tech businesses aren't recession proof.

First and foremost the businesses in tech are over valued because of speculation and ipo purposes, they employ a lot of people and then when recession comes, they are always the first to layoff lot of workers.

Till today, i still dont understand why tech companies will have 5k to 50k workers.

Back in the days, you only need 5 to 10 employees to run a very successful tech business. And most of these businesses were profitable.

Blame it on Agile process. You have lots of irrelevant non tech staff doing nothing special but adding to salary bills and draining the company.

Yet when shit hits the fan, the hard working developers actually working gets affected too

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Re: Most Of The Global Layoffs Have Been In Tech by sircatherine45(m): 5:13pm On Jan 29, 2023
damble:
What are the skills people should learn again ooo since tech is doing lay off
Learn AI

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Re: Most Of The Global Layoffs Have Been In Tech by emoboy4u: 5:14pm On Jan 29, 2023
damble:
What are the skills people should learn again ooo since tech is doing lay off
Farming Skills

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Re: Most Of The Global Layoffs Have Been In Tech by Gabby84: 5:21pm On Jan 29, 2023
I heard Chat gpt is already performing customer services relation duties

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Re: Most Of The Global Layoffs Have Been In Tech by Cutehector(m): 5:30pm On Jan 29, 2023
Everybody find your square root o.

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Re: Most Of The Global Layoffs Have Been In Tech by Nobody: 5:32pm On Jan 29, 2023
thebosstrevor1:


in my opinion, I think the present VC model is flawed and also ruthless, the aim is to make money as fast as possible, don't they care if people will get sacked. They give large amounts of money to startups without a tested business model, they force you to mass recruit to grow fast, then make sure you raise again to mass recruit.

The VC model is like gambling, throwing a lot of money everywhere, hoping that one company will do an IPO to cover up the losses of other failed investments.. literally what that does is make the industry a place for mass layoffs and instability.
This is actually a very brilliant comment. I’ve learnt something. 😁🙏

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Re: Most Of The Global Layoffs Have Been In Tech by BigDawsNet: 5:33pm On Jan 29, 2023
thebosstrevor1:
Like literally, most of the global layoff all over the world including Nigeria have been in the tech industry, from twitter, coinbase, amazon, jumai to Quidax.

Seems like tech businesses aren't recession proof.

First and foremost the businesses in tech are over valued because of speculation and ipo purposes, they employ a lot of people and then when recession comes, they are always the first to layoff lot of workers.

Till today, i still dont understand why tech companies will have 5k to 50k workers.

Back in the days, you only need 5 to 10 employees to run a very successful tech business. And most of these businesses were profitable.

A Senior developer said... you only have to be at Top level in Tech to main your level and income...

Meaning Mid level developer jobs will be handled by AI... l

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Re: Most Of The Global Layoffs Have Been In Tech by Leebeedo(m): 5:42pm On Jan 29, 2023
thebosstrevor1:


My assumptions are not wrong.

The most profitable tech companies aren't run by thousands of employees.

The idea of thousands of employees working for a tech company started with Venture capitalism because of the idea of hyper growth for IPO...literally this type of operation often leads to mass layout when there is economic crisis.

Your assumption is definitely flawed. For instance, to run a tech company successfully like Google, you definitely need Support Engineers from different regions like EMEA, APAC. Trust me, you need hundreds of Supprt Engineers and back end developers for bug fixes and customer requests such as feature enablements and license management

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Re: Most Of The Global Layoffs Have Been In Tech by Leebeedo(m): 5:47pm On Jan 29, 2023
tensazangetsu20:

This is true. I was reading up on a company called carvana. That business model made zero sense but they had like 3000 employees. They laid a lot of people off recently and they are still laying off.

Honestly, people should research companies before joining and ask hard questions. If the business model makes no sense, don't bother. If it's a remote role, don't quit your formal role. That's how someone I follow on Twitter left google to join Coinbase despite being on H1B and Coinbase just laid off and he has 60 days to find a new job or go back to his country but google has never laid off anyone. It's not always about money.

Cavana is not a tech company please. it's an online car dealership. Someone else mentioned Craigslist, how can Craigslist be a tech company? which kind people dey this nairaland sef?

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Re: Most Of The Global Layoffs Have Been In Tech by tegrianonigltd(m): 5:48pm On Jan 29, 2023
tensazangetsu20:

This is true. I was reading up on a company called carvana. That business model made zero sense but they had like 3000 employees. They laid a lot of people off recently and they are still laying off.

Honestly, people should research companies before joining and ask hard questions. If the business model makes no sense, don't bother. If it's a remote role, don't quit your formal role. That's how someone I follow on Twitter left google to join Coinbase despite being on H1B and Coinbase just laid off and he has 60 days to find a new job or go back to his country but google has never laid off anyone. It's not always about money.

Google announced they will lay off soon.
Re: Most Of The Global Layoffs Have Been In Tech by Sltp: 5:49pm On Jan 29, 2023
Robertgreene1:
Interesting...
I remember what John Mcafee(the father of anti-virus systems) said about crypto.
Dude was scamming people with crypto...starting up and hyping different crypto coins while falsely predicting that the value of Bitcoin will soon hit a million dollars
When the value of Bitcoin started going south..
They interviewed the dude and he was like..."Haa never mind all those my false predictions about the value of Bitcoin hitting a mili..I did all that to scam people...I already knew the crypto bubble would burst sooner than later cus the whole concept was based on "Ancient technology"... LoL... whatever the dude meant by "Ancient technology"...
Did crypto crash? Consolidation is now known as " crash"?

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Re: Most Of The Global Layoffs Have Been In Tech by UncleJudax(m): 5:50pm On Jan 29, 2023
tensazangetsu20:


Craiglist is an example. I dont think they have up to 20 people but thats a wrong comparison to a company like Google or Microsoft wheres then literally thousands of products with more being built each day.
Lol. Major tech companies do employ a lot (maybe a bit too many sometimes). However, this is because they have scaled up and continue to add more businesses to their portfolios. If Craigslist were to scale up, they would too.

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Re: Most Of The Global Layoffs Have Been In Tech by Sltp: 5:51pm On Jan 29, 2023
I'm assuming the op has never written a line of code in his life, otherwise he would know that software engineering and building tech solutions is more complicated than rocket science and the more people handling specific tasks, the easier it becomes

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Re: Most Of The Global Layoffs Have Been In Tech by Nsonaso(m): 5:52pm On Jan 29, 2023
thebosstrevor1:


go check crunchbase, there are many profitable tech companies run by 10-20 people.

I just wanna say something, OpenAI is run by 20 people and they have raised 1 billion, soon Open Ai will have 5k employees to fast-track growth and do an IPO


You're comparing company that is valued at 1b to 1t onorable member. Easy
Re: Most Of The Global Layoffs Have Been In Tech by backtovillage: 5:53pm On Jan 29, 2023
thebosstrevor1:


My assumptions are not wrong.

The most profitable tech companies aren't run by thousands of employees.

The idea of thousands of employees working for a tech company started with Venture capitalism because of the idea of hyper growth for IPO...literally this type of operation often leads to mass layout when there is economic crisis.
So Google and Microsoft should have 100 -500 workers lol.
Re: Most Of The Global Layoffs Have Been In Tech by MemoriesAndMe: 6:04pm On Jan 29, 2023
@OP, Your opinion may be wrong. That a company is labeled a tech firm doesn't mean everyone working there is a tech person - there are several business units in every major firm.

A company can lay off as many people in different units within it without even touching the tech unit. Why? Skilled tech folks are difficult to find and new hires need to go through trainings that could take a long time.

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Re: Most Of The Global Layoffs Have Been In Tech by iamsolasoul(f): 6:09pm On Jan 29, 2023
Tech companies should not forget about the people they serve. Your customer service department is basically the front line of your business and people aren’t just numbers.

If you don’t invest in people Hoi will never see returns
Re: Most Of The Global Layoffs Have Been In Tech by samsard(m): 6:09pm On Jan 29, 2023
zed7:
Every profession has its peak, when you get to the peak, it starts to decline. The tried and trusted profession will still be medical. There's no substitute for it.

An AI was trained to diagnose cancer and it did it much faster than the sample group of doctors. No one is irreplaceable with sufficiently advanced technology. Maybe they aren't at risk of getting replaced immediately, but machines can and will eventually get trained to do some things better than a medical doctor.

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Re: Most Of The Global Layoffs Have Been In Tech by obiekunie01: 6:11pm On Jan 29, 2023
zed7:
Every profession has its peak, when you get to the peak, it starts to decline. The tried and trusted profession will still be medical. There's no substitute for it.


i laugh at you in AI driven Medbots.

AI driven robots are far better surgeons than 80% of human doctors.

In fact, some downloadable apps perform better patient diagnostics than human doctors.

70 years from now, the medical industry will be 100% driven by AI med bots.

Doctors will be among the first to lose their jobs totally to bots. followed by the below listed:

nurses
Accountants
Sales/marketers
managers
lawyers
artisans from electricians, mesons, carpenters, mechanics, plumbers, etc.
programmers
teachers
police
army
farmers, etc.

THIS MAY SOUND LIKE FICTION BUT I GUARANTEE YOU THAT IT WILL BE FULLY REALISTIC IN LESS THAN 60 YEARS FROM NOW AND I CAN PRESENT YOU FULL EVIDENCE ON ANY OF THE LISTED CLAIM.

IT IS NO MORE CONSPIRACY THEORY!

Elon Musk warning should be taken seriously - artificial intelligence is worst than nuclear bomb and like nuclear bomb, IT SHOULD BE FULLY REGULATED TO SAVE HUMANITY!

It is no more a science fiction.


if YOU ARE STILL IN DOUBT, GO AND JIST WITH CHATGPT AND COME BACK AND TELL ME HOW YOU FEEL. and chatgpt is just an app not even a hardware bot.

after that go and watch the new AI tank killer bot just deployed by rusia that destroy any tank 6km away - then come back and tell me if it is still fiction.

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Re: Most Of The Global Layoffs Have Been In Tech by Maj196(m): 6:13pm On Jan 29, 2023
So what's your own if they laid off or not. Last I checked many tech jobs are still springing up daily

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Re: Most Of The Global Layoffs Have Been In Tech by saajus: 6:15pm On Jan 29, 2023
AI can take most tech jobs. I advise everybody in tech to learn programming, Machine learning, and statistics/data science so that, they can automate their processes by themselves. In fact, Governments in advanced nations intentionally slow down AI pace because it would render many people jobless.

The health industry is still a bit AI-proof cos no one has been able to replace that human touch in caring. The human touch alone is healing and therapeutic.

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Re: Most Of The Global Layoffs Have Been In Tech by obiekunie01: 6:20pm On Jan 29, 2023
saajus:
AI can take most tech jobs. I advise everybody in tech to learn programming, Machine learning, and statistics/data science so that, they can automate their processes by themselves. In fact, Governments in advanced nations intentionally slow down AI pace because it would render many people jobless.

The health industry is still a bit AI-proof cos no one has been able to replace that human touch in caring. The human touch alone is healing and therapeutic.

oga wetin you talk??

you no nothing jon snow!

read this then come back and repeat what you just said!

https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/autonomous-robot-improves-surgical-precision-using-ai/

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Re: Most Of The Global Layoffs Have Been In Tech by Asour: 6:30pm On Jan 29, 2023
thebosstrevor1:
Like literally, most of the global layoff all over the world including Nigeria have been in the tech industry, from twitter, coinbase, amazon, jumai to Quidax.

Seems like tech businesses aren't recession proof.

First and foremost the businesses in tech are over valued because of speculation and ipo purposes, they employ a lot of people and then when recession comes, they are always the first to layoff lot of workers.

Till today, i still dont understand why tech companies will have 5k to 50k workers.

[b]Back in the days, you only need 5 to 10 [/b]employees to run a very successful tech business. And most of these businesses were profitable.


In what year did you need 5 to 10 employees to run a "very successful" tech company?

We have graduated equated niche software companies to "tech" companies.

HP, Dell & Nvidia are equally tech companies.

At their most successful, they CAN'T have 5-10 people.

Niche game companies or blog platforms like Mojang, Supercell or Craigslist have an average of 300+ employees. But they are niche private players with very different problems.

I don't know how many employees these guys should hire but they need to strike the balance here.
Re: Most Of The Global Layoffs Have Been In Tech by Nobody: 6:43pm On Jan 29, 2023
Advancedman:


Anything built on capitalism lie are all scam and destined to collapse.

I won’t say anything built on capitalism but anything built on speculation are all scam and are destined to collaspe

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Re: Most Of The Global Layoffs Have Been In Tech by Touchypro(m): 6:46pm On Jan 29, 2023
tensazangetsu20:


Craiglist is an example. I dont think they have up to 20 people but thats a wrong comparison to a company like Google or Microsoft wheres then literally thousands of products with more being built each day.
That's not true, there are about 50 workers at craigslist as of 2017.
Re: Most Of The Global Layoffs Have Been In Tech by Adedotguy: 6:56pm On Jan 29, 2023
cool

Effect of AI

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Re: Most Of The Global Layoffs Have Been In Tech by Nobody: 6:56pm On Jan 29, 2023
MemoriesAndMe:
@OP, Your opinion may be wrong. That a company is labeled a tech firm doesn't mean everyone working there is a tech person - there are several business units in every major firm.

A company can lay off as many people in different units within it without even touching the tech unit. Why? Skilled tech folks are difficult to find and new hires need to go through trainings that could take a long time.

The layoffs affected every department in tech, lot of skilled tech workers were payed off

Tech companies competed heavily for talent, they hire at hugely inflated salaries in a time of massive growth, and radically increased the salaries of some veteran employees in an effort to not have them poached when they needed them the most.

That's why these layoffs can appear quite random and across the board. They're not going to tell an employee that their salary is out of the designated company range and that they'll have to accept a 20% or 30% pay cut. They're correcting the situation and are normalizing their pay ranges with large layoff rounds.
Re: Most Of The Global Layoffs Have Been In Tech by IbroMaka(m): 7:02pm On Jan 29, 2023
Tech is the new oil.... Know this and know peace

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Re: Most Of The Global Layoffs Have Been In Tech by Yusufhakeem: 7:04pm On Jan 29, 2023
tensazangetsu20:

This is true. I was reading up on a company called carvana. That business model made zero sense but they had like 3000 employees. They laid a lot of people off recently and they are still laying off.

Honestly, people should research companies before joining and ask hard questions. If the business model makes no sense, don't bother. If it's a remote role, don't quit your formal role. That's how someone I follow on Twitter left google to join Coinbase despite being on H1B and Coinbase just laid off and he has 60 days to find a new job or go back to his country but google has never laid off anyone. It's not always about money.

I thought Google laid off like 12k individuals but not sure though.

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