Maynman:

Christianity is just one of the types of theism out of thousands. Mention other 5 religions that are not dogmatic.
And besides, The split during great schism and Protestant Denomination is on political stands and has nothing to do with “spiritual”. You should look up on the word “spiritual”.

Only the ignorant man is the architect of his own confusions. When you worship deities that are foreign to you, you lose your root and create problems for yourself especially christians that worship israelite god, yahweh.

When I talked about confusion, I wasn't referring to an individual man but the entire human race with the multiplicity of beliefs. Even atheism itself is a belief system looked down upon by some others.
Whatever you say about someone's belief is what that individual is also saying about you.
Everyone is correct and absolutely satisfied until moved upon by higher discoveries.
We've seen theists who became atheists and atheists who became theists. So nothing is new.
I'm not taking about Protestant denominations here when I mentioned new revelations. New revelations are continuously following and more and more splinter groups keep emerging which you as a person would know nothing about. What I'm telling you is that even theists evolve.

FxMasterz:

When I talked about confusion, I wasn't referring to an individual man but the entire human race with the multiplicity of beliefs. Even atheism itself is a belief system looked down upon by some others.
Whatever you say about someone's belief is what that individual is also saying about you.
Everyone is correct and absolutely satisfied until moved upon by higher discoveries.
We've seen theists who became atheists and atheists who became theists. So nothing is new.
I'm not taking about Protestant denominations here when I mentioned new revelations. New revelations are continuously following and more and more splinter groups keep emerging which you as a person would know nothing about. What I'm telling you is that even theists evolve.

What’s the belief of atheism?
We’ve also seen christians that became muslims and vice versa. So nothing is new.

Why is the new revelation not showing to existing groups?
The new splinter group will also become old one day and stop receiving new revelations too lol

Opening new churches doesn’t signify evolvement, is that not why the rise of scam churches are high?

jaephoenix:

This is fast turning into a circular argument, which is my problem with theists.
What god rules are you talking about, AND HOW DO WE KNOW ITS FROM GOD?

I'm not here to answer your questions bro. That's because you're the only one who can answer yourself. I'm only nudging you to have a shift in methodology since you said you all atheists tried in the past and returned empty.

Maynman:

What’s the belief of atheism?
We’ve also seen christians that became muslims and vice versa. So nothing is new.

Why is the new revelation not showing to existing groups?
The new splinter group will also become old and stop receiving revelations too lol

You're still not getting my point bro. That's not what I'm talking about at all. I never mentioned new churches did I?
And yeah Muslims become Christians and vice versa. That further buttresses the fact that the human race is confused. That confusion is nothing new. I hope you're getting my drift?
It's all well anyway. Thanks again bro.

FxMasterz:


I'm not here to answer your questions bro. That's because you're the only one who can answer yourself. I'm only nudging you to have a shift in methodology since you said you all atheists tried in the past and returned empty.

I guess this means no to all my questions.
Alright then

FxMasterz:


You're still not getting my point bro. That's not what I'm talking about at all. I never mentioned new churches did I?
And yeah Muslims become Christians and vice versa. That further buttresses the fact that the human race is confused. That confusion is nothing new. I hope you're getting my drift?
It's all well anyway. Thanks again bro.

And Where did I mention “church” in the post you replied too?, slow down and read.

Why is the new revelation not showing to existing groups?
The new splinter group will also become old and stop receiving revelations too lol

Exactly, both abrahamaic worshippers are confused because they have no knowledge on what they are doing, they only have BELIEFS AND FAITH, so, how does that make the rest of the human race confuse, especially ones with FACTS AND EVIDENCES?

You are welcome again.

Maynman:

And Where did I mention “church” in the post you replied too?, slow down and read.

Why is the new revelation not showing to existing groups?
The new splinter group will also become old and stop receiving revelations too lol

Exactly, both abrahamaic worshippers are confused because they have no knowledge on what they are doing, they only have BELIEFS AND FAITH, so, how does that make the rest of the human race confuse, especially ones with FACTS AND EVIDENCES?

You are welcome again.

God reveals Himself to available vessels and once men become satisfied with old truths without trying to see what God is doing in their midst today,God abandons them and moves on with the few who align themselves. Nothing to lol about. There's no one who is confused while practicing any form of religion because they often find something to hold on to that keeps telling them they're on the right lane.
The whole human race is a confused race. That's not a reference to individuals, sects or belief systems. If you disagree, then tell us why everyone is not an atheist or why everyone is not a theist. This should not be the basis for an argument. The situation is apparent except we want to deny the truth in order to promote our position. That's not what I'm doing here. I'm not promoting anything.

jaephoenix:

I guess this means no to all my questions.
Alright then

If that's how you see it.
What I've been telling you is simple. if a previous method didn't give you the answers you seek, apply another method. No one can help anyone answer the questions of life. The best anyone can do for you is to provide guidance.

FxMasterz:

If that's how you see it.
What I've been telling you is simple. if a previous method didn't give you the answers you seek, apply another method. No one can help anyone answer the questions of life. The best anyone can do for you is to provide guidance.

Like what method?

FxMasterz:


God reveals Himself to available vessels and once men become satisfied with old truths without trying to see what God is doing in their midst today,God abandons them and moves on with the few who align themselves. Nothing to lol about. There's no one who is confused while practicing any form of religion because they often find something to hold on to that keeps telling them they're on the right lane.
The whole human race is a confused race. That's not a reference to individuals, sects or belief systems. If you disagree, then tell us why everyone is not an atheist or why everyone is not a theist. This should not be the basis for an argument. The situation is apparent except we want to deny the truth in order to promote our position. That's not what I'm doing here. I'm not promoting anything.

Monotheist, which of the gods?
The christian god, yahweh?

People have believe in different things.
Tell me why do we have conservatives and democrats?
Tell me why do we have different countries and presidents?
Because we don’t agree on the same thing doesn’t make us confuse.

I think you are confuse that’s why you think the rest of the human race is confused with you.

Maynman:

We can say our human ancestors were polytheists, and from polytheism evolve to monotheism.

Before they were polytheist, which means more than one theo, they must have first adopted their first theo I'd have thought, and then add poly to it.

Problem is with "our human ancestors". It's so Adam, like we originated from the same ancestor, when, where religions are concerned, human ancestors were poly with diverse views and cultures and thoughts and opinions, and what we today have is the mishmash, like "relating a Greek word to the Hebrew Bible".

As "human ancestors" became conscious of themselves and others and their surroundings, gods jumped out at them so to speak. It's why people near the oceans had sea gods, and those constantly waring had war gods, while those farming worshipped the weather etc etc, and as consciousness evolved so did the idea of gods.

budaatum:


Before they were polytheist, which means more than one theo, they must have first adopted their first theo I'd have thought, and then add poly to it.

Problem is with "our human ancestors". It's so Adam, like we originated from the same ancestor, when, where religions are concerned, human ancestors were poly with diverse views and cultures and thoughts and opinions, and what we today have is the mishmash, like "relating a Greek word to the Hebrew Bible".

As "human ancestors" became conscious of themselves and others and their surroundings, gods jumped out at them so to speak. It's why people near the oceans had sea gods, and those constantly waring had war gods, while those farming worshipped the weather etc etc, and as consciousness evolved so did the idea of gods.

Exactly what you said about “our human ancestors”.
I think they might have been polytheist first.
The idea of monotheism, that’s attributing all supernatural quality and reject other gods was a later invention.
Even some religions brag about been the first to worship only one god that’s monotheism.

And if you look at cultures and traditions, they have different gods for different things.

Maynman:

And if you look at cultures and traditions, they have different gods for different things.

Almost all ancient civilizations too had different gods for different things, even if they did not consider them gods at the time. One for rain, another for sun, a different one for wind and so on.

I find they are used as stopgaps. Like, this is what we (this culture and tradition) so far know about a particular phenomena and should be known by all so it is propagated through tradition and culture and religion, and education today where it is observed in the diversity of subjects one learns up to 16. Human ancestors would have had to build a temple to the God of Mathematics.

budaatum:


Almost all ancient civilizations too had different gods for different things, even if they did not consider them gods at the time. One for rain, another for sun, a different one for wind and so on.

I find they are used as stopgaps. Like, this is what we (this culture and tradition) so far know about a particular phenomena and should be known by all so it is propagated through tradition and culture and religion, and education today where it is observed in the diversity of subjects one learns up to 16. Human ancestors would have had to build a temple to the God of Mathematics.

You’re absolutely correct.