Carcholce:
Just like me. Whenever I post on this section, Dtruthspeaker and another moniker calls me delusional. They think I smoke cheap weed from Ondo state.

sonmvayina:


Take the message from the book..there is a spiritual truth and wisdom within the story...take that and run away with it..


The story never happened.

That is what the letter killeth means...

Keep up..

Kobojunkie:
■What Moses gave to the people of Israel was the National Constitution of the State of Israel in the Land of Canaan. It was about 613 total commandments and statutes, not just 10, and all of them were laws that those who were of the blood of Jacob were required to abide by.

■What Jesus Christ also gave, again, to the people of Israel as well, is a Constitutional Law for the state that is the Kingdom of God, another land that is not of this world. You claim what Jesus Christ gave is of the mind, and I would like to know how you arrive at that.

sukkot:
so people dont understand that we exist multidimensionally meaning while an aspect of you exists in this 3 dimensional reality flesh another aspect of you exists out in the ethers and that aspect of you that exists out in the ethers hates the aspect of you that is 3 dimensional flesh and is always looking for a reason to delete you and take you out so that it can exist alone unencumbered. that aspect of you that exist in the ethers is always looking for every opportunity to take you out. the question is will you give it the opportunity to take you out ? or will you appease it so that it becomes at peace with you and nourishes and protects you ?

Carcholce:
■Where is the Kingdom of God? Please answer this for me to continue. You have been throwing questions left and right. Where is the Kingdom of God?

Workch:
where do you guys get all these things from?

Kobojunkie:
1. It is a Kingdom not of this world, however, it is not of the mind either as instead Jesus Christ describes it as being inside and all around those who are born-again. This sort of means two things.

■ Those who are not born-again hence not born of the spirit — possessed— and the kingdom of God is not in and around them
■ The Kingdom of God is a place that is beyond the human mind in existence.

So, when a person who is not born-again, tells me that because he subscribes to ideas pushed in some of the fictional works of Jesus Christ, he too has a spiritual aspect to him, I always wonder what in the world the person is talking of because being born-again means being possessed by a spirit in literal terms.

sukkot:
downloads from my higher self

Kobojunkie:
1. It is a Kingdom not of this world, however, it is not of the mind either as instead Jesus Christ describes it as being inside and all around those who are born-again. This sort of means two things.

■ Those who are not born-again hence not born of the spirit — possessed— and the kingdom of God is not in and around them
■ The Kingdom of God is a place that is beyond the human mind in existence.

So, when a person who is not born-again, tells me that because he subscribes to ideas pushed in the fictional works about Jesus Christ, he too has a spiritual aspect to his person, I always wonder what in the world the person is talking of because being born-again means being possessed by a spirit in literal terms.

Carcholce:
■I will answer my question. The Kingdom of God is the “righteous mind”. (The soul).
■ It is when the soul forgets it’s “true nature” and comes to believe that it is a physical being with a physical body that the mind becomes carnal.

Dear Kobojunkie, I am going to bed. I am not going to answer anymore questions from you tonight. I have to work tomorrow. Good night sir/ma.

sukkot:
ahhh okkk so it is important to know that the bible is an allegorical book. and the way to break down the allegory and parables is also inside the bible for example when you see mountain it is referring to an empire on top of the world and when it refers to valley it is referring to a fallen empire and tower means a man of immense power controlling the world etc etc etc. so moses climbed up high into the mountains means that he became a world ruler and while he was in stewardship of the world the LORD downloaded the full wisdom of the world to him. and so however he started slowly losing his power ( descending and came down from the mountain ) because the people were no longer responding to the divine wisdom he was using to rule the world and people wanted to dabble in prosperity and wealth worship ( golden calf ) and so basically he lost his audience as a result of which he lost his power ( descended down from the mountain ) and he lost all the divine wisdom but the people now had it in pieces ( christianity and islam and orisha and metaphysics and astrological magic etc etc ) which is the situation till this very day ( dashed into pieces )

let me also add that when he was ruling the world he is the pharoah called THUTMOSES historically and when he had all that insane wisdom was when they did the pyramid and sphinx etc in egypt. but when he fell the people started worshipping gold etc which when you look at all the tombs in egypt you will see people buried with their golds and wealth

elated177:


Are the following points what you are actually saying?

A: Moses was an actual human being that existed, but he didn't belong to a particular group of people called the Israelites.
B: Moses didn't climb a physical - literal - mountain.
C: Moses didn't receive any two physical stone tablets with the Ten Commandments written on them.
D: Some people didn't make any golden calf and, therefore, didn't provoke Moses or their God by their action.
E: Moses didn't throw down and shatter to pieces any physical tablets - objects.

Are those summaries and extrapolations made from you narratives above apt? If they are, according to your narratives, could you answer the following questions:

1: What does the Red Sea mean? Is it something that existed/exists? If you it does or did, what does part it allegorically mean?
2: What about Egypt as recorded in the Scriptures? Do you think it was an actual place?
3: Were there different tribes, languages, cultures, etc, as at the time the events recorded in the Scriptures transpired?
4: What allegorical conclusion did you deduce from the sojourn of the Israelites - that is if you are of the view that no such group of people ever existed - in Egypt?
5: What about Moses and the burning bush?
6: What are the allegorical deduction have you made from the "pillar of cloud by day" and the "pillar of cloud by night"?
7: What does the water from the rock mean?
8: How do '"allegorize" the manner from heaven and the quail?
9: According to the Scripture, Moses, after throwing down and shattering the two stones tablets that were in his hand, went back and received another set with the same Commandments written on them, how do you "allegorize" that?

Carcholce:


I will answer my question. The Kingdom of God is the “righteous mind”. (The soul). It is when the soul forgets it’s “true nature” and comes to believe that it is a physical being with a physical body that the mind becomes carnal.

Dear Kobojunkie, I am going to bed. I am not going to answer anymore questions from you tonight. I have to work tomorrow. Good night sir/ma.

sukkot:
bro am i getting paid for all these questions here ? like wtf ? too many questions . i would answer the first 4 though

1 the red sea is the people of edom aka who we call the white man today
2 egypt represents BONDAGE but yes it is also a physical place
3 yes there were different tribes and cultures
4 sojourn of israelites in egypt means the ascended beings of that era descended into spiritual bondage and fell from the position of power and are now in bondage

as for questions 5 to 9 its been a while i read the bible and i dont remember those stories very well

elated177:


You know what Physics says? "Action are reaction are equal and opposite"

Your views brought about those questions. You can't sell your views and narratives without covering all the grounds that border on them.

You should have tackled the A to E questions. You and I know why you refused to do so.

I am not really against your multidimensional whatever thingy that you are espousing here. By mentioning the Scriptures and trying to make them say things contrary to what they actually say, you were literally asking for scrutiny.

sukkot:
i am not trying to sell any views or narratives or crusade for converts, this is nairaland where anybody can just drop whats on their mind lol

elated177:


I know you understood what I meant by "sell".

People are free to "just drop whats on their mind" on nairaland, for sure. But when they involve the Scriptures, they should expect complete scrutiny.

sukkot:
well in that case you need to refresh me with all the stories you mentioned

elated177:


You are just being evasive. If you weren't, you would have gone through your own thread for them.

sukkot:
you quoted many stories I am not familiar with. Bibilical stories. It’s a million stories in the bible and I have not read them all.

elated177:


Yet you concluded that everything in the Scriptures is allegorical.

The stories are in the same place with the one about Moses that you allegorized.

sukkot:
the bible tells you that everything in it is allegory . It’s written in the bible

elated177:


Yet you concluded that everything in the Scriptures is allegorical.

The stories are in the same place with the one about Moses that you allegorized.

sukkot:
you quoted many stories I am not familiar with. Bibilical stories. It’s a million stories in the bible and I have not read them all.

elated177:



Where did you get the story of Moses from?

sukkot:
the bible

sukkot:
read from Galatians 4 vs 22 to verse 26 where it tells you that the guy who is the foundation of the whole bible who everybody every nation comes from aka Abraham is an allegory story and that nothing in the bible is literal or real

elated177:


I have read it. Where did it say so?

sukkot:
i experience my hyperdimensional self everyday. i do rituals to get it to work and cooperate and sync and align with my 3 dimensional self and not destroy me. i have slept a few times and my hyperdimensional self separates from me when my eyes is closed and its looking at me and we are staring at each other. its a very freaky experience. i swear on my life i am not lying

sukkot:
brother you are too stupid to have this conversation with me if you fail to see the word ALLEGORY in the bible verses i gave you to read.

try reading the KJV and not altered versions

sukkot:
read from Galatians 4 vs 22 to verse 26 where it tells you that the guy who is the foundation of the whole bible who everybody every nation comes from aka Abraham is an allegory story and that nothing in the bible is literal or real

elated177:


See frustration! Is this the method that you want to employ in order to run away? Between the two of us, who is exhibiting stupidity? Aren't you the one who is exhibiting utter stupidity by talking about the things you know nothing about?

Did I ever say that the word "allegory" was not mentioned in the Scriptures? Look at what you said:



From the passage you referred me to, where is it stated that:

1: The story of Abraham is allegorical?
2: Everything in the Scriptures - which you call Bible - is allegorical and not literal or real?

I read the passage and didn't see your assertions there. So clarify.

It is even written clearly in verse 22 that Abraham had two sons. How much stupidity can reside in just one person! Wow! The funny thing is that you are even saying these rubbish things boldly and full confidence and not willing to learn. Just wow!

Do you even know the meaning of "Sukkot"?

sukkot:
you are ignorant and proud at the sAme time. Weird combo lol