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Re: Ugandan Court Orders Woman To Pay Ex-fiance Over Breach Of Marriage Promise by Nobody: 12:39pm On Jan 30, 2023
The problem with the judgement
Re: Ugandan Court Orders Woman To Pay Ex-fiance Over Breach Of Marriage Promise by Burgerlomo: 12:52pm On Jan 30, 2023
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Re: Ugandan Court Orders Woman To Pay Ex-fiance Over Breach Of Marriage Promise by Fiscus105(m): 12:58pm On Jan 30, 2023
Very unfortunate, some guys/men dnt know how to deal with woman.

...the more u force urself on woman the more it would give you psychology stress and regrets at end.
Re: Ugandan Court Orders Woman To Pay Ex-fiance Over Breach Of Marriage Promise by AleAirHub(m): 1:03pm On Jan 30, 2023
I'm not a lawyer, but during my days in school, I took a course in law, and I was taught we have two types of agreements, which are oral and written. So oral fall's under verbal. 

Edopesin:
Since when did a marriage proposal become law binding? It wasn't even written and signed or anything, just verbal something

If she pay make I hear, unless it's a banana Republic over there
Re: Ugandan Court Orders Woman To Pay Ex-fiance Over Breach Of Marriage Promise by WonderManly(m): 1:03pm On Jan 30, 2023
Burgerlomo:


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Re: Ugandan Court Orders Woman To Pay Ex-fiance Over Breach Of Marriage Promise by olisaEze(m): 1:04pm On Jan 30, 2023
Edopesin:
Since when did a marriage proposal become law binding? It wasn't even written and signed or anything, just verbal something

If she pay make I hear, unless it's a banana Republic over there

Misrepresentation for financial gain is fraud! The father of that girl is a shameless lazy man and should refund the whole money or explain to the court if he was only pimping out his daughter to the man! You have lived all your life in a banana republic yourself so you think actual justice is weird.

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Re: Ugandan Court Orders Woman To Pay Ex-fiance Over Breach Of Marriage Promise by mmsen: 1:07pm On Jan 30, 2023
Edopesin:
Since when did a marriage proposal become law binding? It wasn't even written and signed or anything, just verbal something

If she pay make I hear, unless it's a banana Republic over there

Marriage is a contract, a proposal is the offer of said contract. The acceptance of the proposal is the acceptance of the contractual terms, purchasing the ring and the man continuing to spend money on said woman in exchange for physical pleasure is consideration.
Re: Ugandan Court Orders Woman To Pay Ex-fiance Over Breach Of Marriage Promise by advanceDNA: 1:08pm On Jan 30, 2023
JuanDeDios:

Actually, it's the marriage proposal. You can sue in common law if it's broken off without a good reason. If the court finds in your favour, it is that based on that finding that the court will award you damages either to recover what you lost or your time that was wasted.

You Are bringing something else into it...dating and comonnlaw partner are not the same......common law partner breach is enforceable after living with someone continuously or off and on for two years and latter decide to walk way.....

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Re: Ugandan Court Orders Woman To Pay Ex-fiance Over Breach Of Marriage Promise by Thurmieee: 1:11pm On Jan 30, 2023
Edopesin:
Since when did a marriage proposal become law binding? It wasn't even written and signed or anything, just verbal something

If she pay make I hear, unless it's a banana Republic over there
It's not about law binding.....she gained financially from him through false pretense

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Re: Ugandan Court Orders Woman To Pay Ex-fiance Over Breach Of Marriage Promise by JuanDeDios: 1:19pm On Jan 30, 2023
advanceDNA:


You Are bringing something else into it...dating and comonnlaw partner are not the same......common law partner breach is enforceable after living with someone continuously or off and on for two years and latter decide to walk way.....
A PROMISE TO MARRY is sufficient to give rise to a court action under the common law - you don't have to be common law partners. From the story, I believe the issue is a promise to marry - I didn't bring it in. If she had broken it off for a good reason (e.g., he is a thief or he's a rapist), no restitution order would have been made.

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Re: Ugandan Court Orders Woman To Pay Ex-fiance Over Breach Of Marriage Promise by advanceDNA: 1:42pm On Jan 30, 2023
JuanDeDios:

A PROMISE TO MARRY is sufficient to give rise to a court action under the common law - you don't have to be common law partners. From the story, I believe the issue is a promise to marry - I didn't bring it in. If she had broken it off for a good reason (e.g., he is a thief or he's a rapist), no restitution order would have been made.

U cant force one to do anything that is not in the constitution e.g tax payment

, no one owes anyine marriage...... like i said...the man isnt directly sueing her for not marrying him per se....he's sueing for deception when she could have walked away when she knew she's not interested...

The loop hole to exploit for sueing is the damages incurred because of the person's promise.....in fact if there is no proof of damage as a result of the promise or no eay to prove her motive was greed he wont even get anything.....

In this case the man got compensation for damages becos its easy to show proof of damages which is financial because women with their greediness will collect money from a man....


If u read the case well....she said she ddnt want the man from the start....it was her parents arrangement..but shes as adult so she could have walked away or told the guy.....so greed eas involved from the start

If she had a genuine reason for not marrying him, e.g..he beats her or he's violent, or his salary changed or lost his job....the man wont get a dime
Re: Ugandan Court Orders Woman To Pay Ex-fiance Over Breach Of Marriage Promise by JuanDeDios: 2:02pm On Jan 30, 2023
advanceDNA:


U cant force one to do anything that is not in the constitution e.g tax payment

, no one owes anyine marriage...... like i said...the man isnt directly sueing her for not marrying him per se....he's sueing for deception when she could have walked away when she knew she's not interested...


The loop hole to exploit for sueing is the damages incurred because of the person's promise.....in fact if there is no proof of damage as a result of the promise or no eay to prove her motive was greed he wont even get anything.....

In this case the man got compensation for damages becos its easy to show proof of damages which is financial because women with their greediness will collect money from a man....


If u read the case well....she said she ddnt want the man from the start....it was her parents arrangement..but shes as adult so she could have walked away or told the guy.....so greed eas involved from the start

If she had a genuine reason for not marrying him, e.g..he beats her or he's violent, or his salary changed or lost his job....the man wont get a dime

This is what I said: BREACH OF A PROMISE TO MARRY IS GROUND FOR A SUCCESSFUL LEGAL ACTION UNDER THE COMMON LAW (which operates in Uganda and Nigeria).

From all you've written, I take it you DON'T agree with my assertion above. I'd like to ask: are you a lawyer?
Re: Ugandan Court Orders Woman To Pay Ex-fiance Over Breach Of Marriage Promise by wirinet(m): 2:19pm On Jan 30, 2023
advanceDNA:


U cant force one to do anything that is not in the constitution e.g tax payment

, no one owes anyine marriage...... like i said...the man isnt directly sueing her for not marrying him per se....he's sueing for deception when she could have walked away when she knew she's not interested...

The loop hole to exploit for sueing is the damages incurred because of the person's promise.....in fact if there is no proof of damage as a result of the promise or no eay to prove her motive was greed he wont even get anything.....

In this case the man got compensation for damages becos its easy to show proof of damages which is financial because women with their greediness will collect money from a man....


If u read the case well....she said she ddnt want the man from the start....it was her parents arrangement..but shes as adult so she could have walked away or told the guy.....so greed eas involved from the start

If she had a genuine reason for not marrying him, e.g..he beats her or he's violent, or his salary changed or lost his job....the man wont get a dime


This is fraud, 419. And many women engage in this type of fraud and gets away with it. I know a very good example. It happened to a room mate of mine in the university. My roommate comes from a fairly wealthy family. So when my roommate found a girl he fell in love with, even though she was from a poor family, they embraced the relationship. The family took it upon themselves to sponsor the girl through university. Throughout the guy's stay at the University, he never looked at any other girl. The lady was admired into LASU, all through the efforts of my guy.
After the girl graduated, my guy decided to do his masters degree, so the family decided that the lady should go to London and await their son, who would complete his master's in less than two years. Omo the whole family was shocked when after less than a year of living in my friends uncle's house in London, she moved out. When they were able to reach her and ask her why she moved out, she said she cannot marry their son again because her pastor in her church said their son is not her husband, and that God has chosen another husband for her. See begging and pleading, my friends cousin in the same university travelled to London to beg this girl, she remained adamant. At the end of the day, everyone gave up. My friend never remained the same again. He left school and refused to leave his mother's house for a full year. At the end of the day, the mother sent him to America to try and rehabilitate him.

There are numerous other cases I have been oppotuned to be close to of ladies using marriage as a bait for guys sponsoring them to university and then dumping them immidiately they finish. One guy i met through a Hausa friend was looking for an assassin to kill the girl he sponsored to university and then ran away to marry another person. Me and my friend had to talk him out of it.

It poetic justice when courts make ladies pay for using marriage for defrauding guys.
Re: Ugandan Court Orders Woman To Pay Ex-fiance Over Breach Of Marriage Promise by advanceDNA: 2:38pm On Jan 30, 2023
JuanDeDios:

This is what I said: BREACH OF A PROMISE TO MARRY IS GROUND FOR A SUCCESSFUL LEGAL ACTION UNDER THE COMMON LAW (which operates in Uganda and Nigeria).

From all you've written, I take it you DON'T agree with my assertion above. I'd like to ask: are you a lawyer?

Yes.....An ordinary BREACH OF A PROMISE TO MARRY is not a GROUND FOR A SUCCESSFUL LEGAL ACTION if there are no other conditions to follow....like evidence of fraud, or other damages that may rise if yhe partied are common law partners.....

. if i meet u last week monday and we have chemistry or what stupíd pple call love at first sight ...and propose last week monday and later this week monday I say i am not doing again...u think any judge will let the case go to trial because of just a breach of promise u have been claiming??...lol....

Of course anyone can sue....heck i can even sue u for passing in front of my house..
..the question is...will any judge let it go to trial for that very reason im suing you...

However....If there is a sprinkle of evidence, like threat to life or attempted robbery to argue about in court....then the judge can apply an addendum and let it go to trial
Re: Ugandan Court Orders Woman To Pay Ex-fiance Over Breach Of Marriage Promise by advanceDNA: 2:40pm On Jan 30, 2023
wirinet:


This is fraud, 419. And many women engage in this type of fraud and gets away with it. I know a very good example. It happened to a room mate of mine in the university. My roommate comes from a fairly wealthy family. So when my roommate found a girl he fell in love with, even though she was from a poor family, they embraced the relationship. The family took it upon themselves to sponsor the girl through university. Throughout the guy's stay at the University, he never looked at any other girl. The lady was admired into LASU, all through the efforts of my guy.
After the girl graduated, my guy decided to do his masters degree, so the family decided that the lady should go to London and await their son, who would complete his master's in less than two years. Omo the whole family was shocked when after less than a year of living in my friends uncle's house in London, she moved out. When they were able to reach her and ask her why she moved out, she said she cannot marry their son again because her pastor in her church said their son is not her husband, and that God has chosen another husband for her. See begging and pleading, my friends cousin in the same university travelled to London to beg this girl, she remained adamant. At the end of the day, everyone gave up. My friend never remained the same again. He left school and refused to leave his mother's house for a full year. At the end of the day, the mother sent him to America to try and rehabilitate him.

There are numerous other cases I have been oppotuned to be close to of ladies using marriage as a bait for guys sponsoring them to university and then dumping them immidiately they finish. One guy i met through a Hausa friend was looking for an assassin to kill the girl he sponsored to university and then ran away to marry another person. Me and my friend had to talk him out of it.

It poetic justice when courts make ladies pay for using marriage for defrauding guys.

U jumped into an dialogue without knowing the premise.....did i say this case isnt fraud??
Re: Ugandan Court Orders Woman To Pay Ex-fiance Over Breach Of Marriage Promise by JuanDeDios: 2:49pm On Jan 30, 2023
advanceDNA:


Yes.....An ordinary BREACH OF A PROMISE TO MARRY is not a GROUND FOR A SUCCESSFUL LEGAL ACTION if there are no other conditions to follow....like evidence of fraud, or other damages that may rise if yhe partied are common law partners.....

. if i meet u last week monday and we have chemistry or what stupíd pple call love at first sight ...and propose last week monday and later this week monday I say i am not doing again...u think any judge will let the case go to trial because of just a breach of promise u have been claiming??...lol....

Of course anyone can sue....heck i can even sue u for passing in front of my house..
..the question is...will any judge let it go to trial for that very reason im suing you...

However....If there is a sprinkle of evidence, like threat to life or attempted robbery to argue about in court....then the judge can apply an addendum and let it go to trial
I'm not sure why you keep attaching "common law partners" to this. I'm talking of an ordinary PROMISE TO MARRY. Note I did not say the court will compel you to marry anyone but that damages may arise (e.g., "I declined you offer to study in the UK because he promised to marry you" OR "he wasted 3 years of my life during which I would have married other people"wink whether there is an element of fraud or not. Anyway, I think yours is NOT the correct legal position, but I can't pursue the argument further here right now.
Re: Ugandan Court Orders Woman To Pay Ex-fiance Over Breach Of Marriage Promise by Emmanuel909090: 4:31pm On Jan 30, 2023
The magistrates photos should be on all billboards in Uganda.

Wow angry
Re: Ugandan Court Orders Woman To Pay Ex-fiance Over Breach Of Marriage Promise by Dtruthspeaker: 5:49pm On Jan 30, 2023
francotunsco:


Great judgement!
But, on the other hand, what if she appeals and claim that the man's spending on her didnt go for free as she was paying back in the other room! I am not just being funny, i need legal reaction to this.

Heyy, dont run away, we can manage your reactions too...

That is why she should not have departed from the contract of promise to marry because that is her own "consideration" for the contract which if it was the man who departed from the promise, she would have sued. So she has no action here for she is the one who did wrong in not fulfilling the contract.
Re: Ugandan Court Orders Woman To Pay Ex-fiance Over Breach Of Marriage Promise by francotunsco: 5:51pm On Jan 30, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


That is why she should not have departed from the contract of promise to marry because that is her own "consideration" for the contract which if it was the man who departed from the promise, she would have sued. So she has no action here for she is the one who did wrong in not fulfilling the contract.
hmnn..
Re: Ugandan Court Orders Woman To Pay Ex-fiance Over Breach Of Marriage Promise by wirinet(m): 6:40pm On Jan 30, 2023
francotunsco:


Great judgement!
But, on the other hand, what if she appeals and claim that the man's spending on her didnt go for free as she was paying back in the other room! I am not just being funny, i need legal reaction to this.

Heyy, dont run away, we can manage your reactions too...

Is prostitution now legal in Uganda?
Re: Ugandan Court Orders Woman To Pay Ex-fiance Over Breach Of Marriage Promise by Sagamite(m): 8:23pm On Jan 30, 2023
ijustdey:


https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/01/ugandan-court-tells-woman-to-pay-ex-fiance-over-breach-of-marriage-promise/

Moronic judge.

Did they put a gun to his head to fund the education of someone he was not married to?

Courts should stay out of emotional and intimate interactions between men and women.
Re: Ugandan Court Orders Woman To Pay Ex-fiance Over Breach Of Marriage Promise by WonderManly(m): 2:54am On Jan 31, 2023
Burgerlomo:


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Re: Ugandan Court Orders Woman To Pay Ex-fiance Over Breach Of Marriage Promise by Burgerlomo: 3:41am On Jan 31, 2023
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Re: Ugandan Court Orders Woman To Pay Ex-fiance Over Breach Of Marriage Promise by Kobojunkie: 4:16am On Jan 31, 2023
ijustdey:
■ An Ugandan court had ordered a woman to pay back a total of 9.4 million shillings ($2,550; £2,060) to her ex-fiancé for failing to marry him after four years of marital relationship. Magistrate Asanasio Mukobi of the court in Kanungu gave the verdict on Thursday saying the woman, Fortunate Kyarikunda broke her promise to Richard Tumwine. Mukobi said the amount was what Tumwine paid for Kyarikunda’s law studies and legal fees as financial damages for causing him psychological anguish, BBC said. Kyarikunda had said her parents did not give consent to the marriage because Tumwine was older than her.
■ Ruling, the court said it was “unreasonable, a misrepresentation and a fraud” for the defendant to argue that her parents told her not to marry an older man. The magistrate said she “had all the opportunity to reject the plaintiff’s love requests at the earliest point possible and avoid interfering with his financial obligations.” Reports, however, said it was not certain if Kyarikunda will appeal against the judgment as the verdict was flawed because an engagement, unlike a marriage, should not be legally binding.
1. I just never understood why people do this to themselves in the first place. Pay for someone else's child's education in hopes that marriage awaits them down the road. It is akin to shackling that individual if you ask me and the relationship should lipsrsealed
2. Fortunately, or unfortunately, she can actually appeal the judgment and then go ahead and win her appeal, unless of course maybe there is evidence to show that she did in fact agree to marry the man, else her lawyers can argue that the man did it out of what she assumed was kindness. . undecided
Re: Ugandan Court Orders Woman To Pay Ex-fiance Over Breach Of Marriage Promise by Kobojunkie: 4:20am On Jan 31, 2023
francotunsco:
■ Great judgement! But, on the other hand, what if she appeals and claim that the man's spending on her didnt go for free as she was paying back in the other room!
■ I am not just being funny, i need legal reaction to this. Heyy, dont run away, we can manage your reactions too...
She can and might even win her appeal if she does that since they were both in a relationship according to the man. I hope she goes on to appeal this judgment, even though it is great to see that judges in Uganda dey use their heads well in these things. undecided

2. Unless the man has a signed agreement from her proving his paying her fees meant she would marry him, there isn't much that he can do in that case. undecided
Re: Ugandan Court Orders Woman To Pay Ex-fiance Over Breach Of Marriage Promise by Kobojunkie: 4:20am On Jan 31, 2023
Edopesin:
■ Since when did a marriage proposal become law binding? It wasn't even written and signed or anything, just verbal something. If she pay make I hear, unless it's a banana Republic over there
Really? undecided
Re: Ugandan Court Orders Woman To Pay Ex-fiance Over Breach Of Marriage Promise by Kobojunkie: 4:22am On Jan 31, 2023
God1000:
■ This is good, don't make promises, drain somebody and later walk away.Hopefully this will serve as a deterrent
1. It is better you yourself use common sense in these things. Don't think you can shackle people through the giving of things. undecided
Re: Ugandan Court Orders Woman To Pay Ex-fiance Over Breach Of Marriage Promise by Kobojunkie: 4:24am On Jan 31, 2023
TEYA:
Not all contracts are written, some are implied. That woman is a fraud and should pay in full!
Since when did marriage contract begin qualify as "implied" abeg? undecided
Re: Ugandan Court Orders Woman To Pay Ex-fiance Over Breach Of Marriage Promise by WonderManly(m): 9:45am On Jan 31, 2023
Burgerlomo:


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