LocalStandard1:

When I "lie", you use your phone or whatever gadget and disprove simple. But don't call me a lie, that's an insult and not a right way of arguing.

but I have u verifiable evidence now n u are yet to reply

BATified2023:
any evidence backed up by fact?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/punchng.com/tinubus-primary-school-never-existed-group-tells-court/%3famp?espv=1

Disprove this report then, where did Tinubu school?

LocalStandard1:
Let's make it easier. I want two, two Tinubu intellectuals here, one from the South so we speak in English, the other from the North so we speak in Hausa.

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BATified2023:
but I have u verifiable evidence now n u are yet to reply

Baba do you want me to provide source or what? I've replied you.

LocalStandard1:


1. The Nigerian Debt Management Office (DMO) rated Anambra as the least indebted state in Nigeria. In spite of visible and measurable achievements recorded in various sectors, the State under him did not borrow or raise bonds for her various projects.

2. The Nigerian Debt Management Office (DMO) rated Anambra as the least indebted state in Nigeria. In spite of visible and measurable achievements recorded in various sectors, the State under him did not borrow or raise bonds for her various projects. 3. The Senate of the Federal Republic of Nigeria rated Anambra State as the most financially stable state in the country.

4. The state also entered into strategic partnership with the Churches in the Health sector. Through partnership with the Church in the Health sector, his Government funded the transformation of -: a: Iyienu Hospital, Ogidi; b: Our Lady of Lourdes Hospital, Ihiala; c: St Charles Borromeo Hospital, Onitsha; d: Holy Rosary Hospital, Waterside, Onitsha; and e: St. Joseph Hospital, Adazi-Nnukwu.

5. His Government also built the Joseph Nwilo Heart Centre in St. Joseph, Adazi-Nnukwu, where heart operations are now being performed.

6. His Government won the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation (1 Million dollars) as the best-performing state in immunisation in the South-East.

7. The state was the first to procure and distribute more than 30,000 computers to secondary schools, including 22,500 from HP.

8. As part of the efforts to turn around the economy of the State, a number of companies were attracted to build their facilities in the Anambra state. A case in point is SABMiller, the 2nd largest brewery in the world. A number of other companies followed the SABMiller initiative.

I don’t want cheap talks

Give me proofs like newspaper publications

I can also claim anything, give me any newspaper publications to back it up

At least I backed it up the obi failed on security n co

BATified2023:
but I have u verifiable evidence now n u are yet to reply

This is the Anambra people begging Obi to do a third term.

http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2011/june/10/national-10-06-2011-015.html

https://www.nairaland.com/687537/traders-want-peter-obi-3rd

BATified2023:
I accept provided u won’t b giving us false claims like

Peter obi saved billions
Peter obi did this n that when we knew he was a colossal failure

You have not even started argument and you are already lying. If Obi was in APC, you people would have made him a consensus candidate without any primary election. Shame on you for believing your own lies. Only idiots do that.

BATified2023:
but I have u verifiable evidence now n u are yet to reply

This one is funny cos it's coming from the APC government.

Even the Buhari administration agrees about Obi's impeccable qualities. This is something even Tinubu in APC cannot boast of.


https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/05/obi-impeached-refusing-inflate-anambra-budget-presidency/amp/

I even wrote about it here....
https://www.nairaland.com/7360360/presidency-exposes-reason-behind-peter

LocalStandard1:


This is the Anambra people begging Obi to do a third term.

http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2011/june/10/national-10-06-2011-015.html

https://www.nairaland.com/687537/traders-want-peter-obi-3rd

are u talking about these same people n people like owobokiri

This is the main reason y people will never engage u obi supporters cos u lie n believe your own lies n will never accept anything aside those lies

This was what owobokiri said about peter obi then but today he’s telling us he’s d savior, what changed?

floret23:
You have not even started argument and you are already lying. If Obi was in APC, you people would have made him a consensus candidate without any primary election. Shame on you for believing your own lies. Only idiots do that.

tell me d lie in d post?

BATified2023:
I don’t want cheap talks
Give me proofs like newspaper publications
I can also claim anything, give me any newspaper publications to back it up
At least I backed it up the obi failed on security n co

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://dnbstories.com/2022/06/list-of-peter-obis-achievements-in-anambra-as-governor.html&ved=2ahUKEwiL4rq86Pj8AhV3XaQEHXd7DxUQFnoECBMQAQ&usg=AOvVaw36BhAt5OmH0DadyGLIqCI0

https://www.legit.ng/nigeria/1498135-18-major-achievements-peter-obi-melt-hearts/

Here a fact check....
https://www.thecable.ng/fact-check-was-obi-awarded-best-governor-in-health-care-in-2013/amp

Note: Peter Obi is the most fact checked Nigerian politician today.

BATified2023:
are u talking about these same people n people like owobokiri
This is the main reason y people will never engage u obi supporters cos u lie n believe your own lies n will never accept anything aside those lies
This was what owobokiri said about peter obi then but today he’s telling us he’s d savior, what changed?

We've mischievously been talking about Peter Obi only here. Let's talk about Tinubu.

Who killed funso Williams?
https://features.neusroom.com/the-story-of-funsho-williams/

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.pulse.ng/news/local/bola-tinubu-apc-leader-sued-over-funsho-williams-murder/h57ryq5.amp&ved=2ahUKEwjH2eKm6vj8AhVLTaQEHVVlDc04ChAWegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw1wuIGEaUu067U3Nz3lQt3q

Even the current Tinubu spokesperson confirm who did it.
https://www.thecable.ng/fani-kayode-tinubu-im-not-funsho-williams-cannot-killed-like-chicken/amp
https://www.nairaland.com/2209377/breaking-tinubu-involved-funsho-williams

BATified2023:
then what about this?

okay?
Can you tell us why you are voting for BAT now?

BATified2023:
tell me d lie in d post?

Tinubu is the worst Governor in Lagos history.

https://www.legit.ng/politics/1514587-tinubu-worst-civilian-governor-lagos-history-phrank-shaibu/

https://saharareporters.com/2023/01/16/apc-presidential-candidate-tinubu-worst-civilian-governor-lagos-history-steals-other

Don't say I didn't warn you....
https://www.nairaland.com/7552170/tinubu-isnt-capable-becoming-counselor

Trollronaldo:
okay?
Can you tell us why you are voting for BAT now?

Thank you for that.

BATified2023:
tell me d lie in d post?

Are you saying that Obi is not the best governor in the history of Nigeria?

No matter how you express your hate and anger against him, there are facts you cannot change which include:

1. He ran the most secured state in Nigeria during his tenure. Former IGP Abubarkar gave him 5years accolades of the most secured state back to back for 5 year.

2. The minister of works then gave him the best accolade of a governor that built 800km of road network in 8years.

3. Educationally, he met Anambra State at 26th position in 2006 and left it at 1st by 2014 when he was leaving office.

4. He was the only governor that met the Millennium Development Goal (MDG) in Nigeria in both education and health. In fact, Milinda and Bill Gate Foundation gave him a personal gift of 1 million dollar for his achievement. Which he dropped in the state account rather than putting in his own private account.

5. He is the only former governor today that does not collect pension, gratuity, land gift and allowances since he left the office in 2014.

6. When he became SEC Chairman under President Jonathan, he told SEC to hold back all his allowances and entitlement as Board Chairman. He left without nothing. He said he does not need them.

7. When he was Chairman of Fidelity Bank, he was entitled to two brand new cars annually. He told the board, I don't need them. Let me just come for meetings and go home.

You can only be angry with him. You cannot change the facts.
-Anon.

I saw this write-up somewhere, wondering if it is true... sharing it here for our fact finders to help me verify!

His name is Peter Obi!
GET YOUR PVC READY
Vote wisely! VOTE PETER OBI

LocalStandard1:


We've mischievously been talking about Peter Obi only here. Let's talk about Tinubu.

Who killed funso Williams?
https://features.neusroom.com/the-story-of-funsho-williams/

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.pulse.ng/news/local/bola-tinubu-apc-leader-sued-over-funsho-williams-murder/h57ryq5.amp&ved=2ahUKEwjH2eKm6vj8AhVLTaQEHVVlDc04ChAWegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw1wuIGEaUu067U3Nz3lQt3q

Even the current Tinubu spokesperson confirm who did it.
https://www.thecable.ng/fani-kayode-tinubu-im-not-funsho-williams-cannot-killed-like-chicken/amp
https://www.nairaland.com/2209377/breaking-tinubu-involved-funsho-williams

seye ogunlewe the pdp stalwart killed funsho William n he was arrested n interrogated for it

My question is

Tinubu was in opposition for good 16 years, pdp tried him a couple times, y didn’t they jail him for just one offense?

Y are u igbos bothered about tinubu more than orji uzor kalu

Check d chart below

floret23:
Are you saying that Obi is not the best governor in the history of Nigeria?

No matter how you express your hate and anger against him, there are facts you cannot change which include:

1. He ran the most secured state in Nigeria during his tenure. Former IGP Abubarkar gave him 5years accolades of the most secured state back to back for 5 year.

2. The minister of works then gave him the best accolade of a governor that built 800km of road network in 8years.

3. Educationally, he met Anambra State at 26th position in 2006 and left it at 1st by 2014 when he was leaving office.

4. He was the only governor that met the Millennium Development Goal (MDG) in Nigeria in both education and health. In fact, Milinda and Bill Gate Foundation gave him a personal gift of 1 million dollar for his achievement. Which he dropped in the state account rather than putting in his own private account.

5. He is the only former governor today that does not collect pension, gratuity, land gift and allowances since he left the office in 2014.

6. When he became SEC Chairman under President Jonathan, he told SEC to hold back all his allowances and entitlement as Board Chairman. He left without nothing. He said he does not need them.

7. When he was Chairman of Fidelity Bank, he was entitled to two brand new cars annually. He told the board, I don't need them. Let me just come for meetings and go home.

You can only be angry with him. You cannot change the facts.
-Anon.

I saw this write-up somewhere, wondering if it is true... sharing it here for our fact finders to help me verify!

His name is Peter Obi!
GET YOUR PVC READY
Vote wisely! VOTE PETER OBI

all these lies are reasons we don’t engage u lots

BATified2023:
all these lies are reasons we don’t engage u lots

Tell us why we should vote for Tinubu.

Highlight his achievements in Lagos. Maybe when you are done educating us, we will change our minds.

No one Wil leave Peter Obi if you don't sell Tinubu to us.

floret23:
Are you saying that Obi is not the best governor in the history of Nigeria?

No matter how you express your hate and anger against him, there are facts you cannot change which include:

1. He ran the most secured state in Nigeria during his tenure. Former IGP Abubarkar gave him 5years accolades of the most secured state back to back for 5 year.

2. The minister of works then gave him the best accolade of a governor that built 800km of road network in 8years.

3. Educationally, he met Anambra State at 26th position in 2006 and left it at 1st by 2014 when he was leaving office.

4. He was the only governor that met the Millennium Development Goal (MDG) in Nigeria in both education and health. In fact, Milinda and Bill Gate Foundation gave him a personal gift of 1 million dollar for his achievement. Which he dropped in the state account rather than putting in his own private account.

5. He is the only former governor today that does not collect pension, gratuity, land gift and allowances since he left the office in 2014.

6. When he became SEC Chairman under President Jonathan, he told SEC to hold back all his allowances and entitlement as Board Chairman. He left without nothing. He said he does not need them.

7. When he was Chairman of Fidelity Bank, he was entitled to two brand new cars annually. He told the board, I don't need them. Let me just come for meetings and go home.

You can only be angry with him. You cannot change the facts.
-Anon.

I saw this write-up somewhere, wondering if it is true... sharing it here for our fact finders to help me verify!

His name is Peter Obi!
GET YOUR PVC READY
Vote wisely! VOTE PETER OBI

who made obi the best governor?

This is what tinubu worst enemy have to say about him

If your enemy can agree u are d best then wetin remain?

BATified2023:
I accept provided u won’t b giving us false claims like

Peter Obi saved billions
Peter obi did this n that when we knew he was a colossal failure

If you say Obi didn't save billions, even your fellow urchins will not believe you again. It's like intentionally calling white black. Only Yaradua (5 billions) and Obi (75 billions? have done that in the history of Nigeria. Others like Tinubu and fashola leaved huge debt for the state.

BATified2023:
who made obi the best governor?

This is what tinubu worst enemy have to say about him

If your enemy can agree u are d best then wetin remain?

One question?

Is Tinubu feeding on Lagos state money or not?

Is Tinubu a godfather in Lagos or not?

BATified2023:
seye ogunlewe the pdp stalwart killed funsho William n he was arrested n interrogated for it
My question is
Tinubu was in opposition for good 16 years, pdp tried him a couple times, y didn’t they jail him for just one offense?
Y are u igbos bothered about tinubu more than orji uzor kalu
Check d chart below

You have neither provided proof of what you put up in your entire posts and didn't even disprove my points. Yet you have continued to break the only rules in this post, insults, name calling and tribalistism.

For that I will not answer you, you aren't the intelligentual I am looking for. Bring me a real person with basic understanding of a debate.

For your info I am neither an Igbo or even from Southern Nigeria.

BATified2023:
all these lies are reasons we don’t engage u lots

Point out the lies there in with verifiable link not ranting for Reno Omokri, Deji Adeyanju, Omoyele Sowore, FFK or Festus Keyamo. Those ones are political cashtivists who go for the highest bidder. They are paid to spread falsehood.

LocalStandard1:


You have neither provided proof of what you put up in your entire posts and didn't even disprove my points. Yet you have continued to break the only rules in this post, insults, name calling and tribalistism.

For that I will not answer you, you aren't the intelligentual I am looking for. Bring me a real person with basic understanding of a debate.

For your info I am neither an Igbo or even from Southern Nigeria.

y was tinubu not jailed since he was tried twice during opposition government? N he was in opposition for good 16 years?

Please answer that question?

LocalStandard1:
I mean, let's settle this right here and now, without insults or name calling!

Get me the most intelligent, biggest Tinubu brainiac here on Nairaland let's have some intense intellectual, mind cracking debate. Let's give reasons why we support our different candidates and let's dispute each other's reasons given. Let's talk about the various controversies about each and their capabilities and capacities, their abilities and characters.

I don't mind even if it's a mod or Reno Omokri, even a Professor will do just fine. Come on let's have some low level, old style debate since your candidate has refused a debate or even a 30mins long interview by a TV station of his choice.

Mods pls push this to front view!

I'm not a supporter of Tinubu, but as regards the frontrunners in this election, I'd settle for a tinubu candidacy...

If you wanna debate me on why I prefer him over other contestants, I'd be more than glad to school you for free

BATified2023:
who made obi the best governor?
This is what tinubu worst enemy have to say about him
If your enemy can agree u are d best then wetin remain?

This is not even an argument.

Tinubu has tied Lagos State in his pocket, if he can't bribe you he threatens and even kills you, that's not an argument.

Just cos Tinubu employed people doesn't mean he should own their very lives. No governer,not even a counselor can operate his area without employing people. Tinubu didn't help any one by employing them into positions.

What he's doing is called godfatherism and a mafia like system of government. He is a criminal in that state.

Ambode tried setting himself free Tinubu removed him. Osibanjo tried it and you people called him a traitor. Till date Osibanjo has become the bad guy in your enslaved minds over there.

Thank God Osibanjo still forth the good fight and is now free of your Lord.

BATified2023:
who made obi the best governor?

This is what tinubu worst enemy have to say about him

If your enemy can agree u are d best then wetin remain?

Do you believe all Reno's post on Tinubu? If yes, I will upload here ten damaging tweets from Reno to Tinubu.

Reno started surpporting Tinubu when he realized that almost all Atikulates of 2019 are now Obidients. For instance, I am a card carrying member of PDP in Osun State but Peter Obi is my only choice. Yoruba ni mi tokantokan sugbon Peter Obi ni choice mi. This coming election is simply between Obi and Atiku. Tinubu will come a distant third.

floret23:
Do you believe all Reno's post on Tinubu? If yes, I will upload here ten damaging tweets from Reno to Tinubu.

Reno started surpporting Peter Obi when he realized that almost all Atikulates of 2019 are now Obidients. For instance, I am a card carrying member of PDP in Osun State but Peter Obi is my only choice. Yoruba ni mi tokantokan sugbon Peter Obi ni choice mi.

u mischievous Igbo

I will not reply u again

This is the reason many don’t want to engage igbos n their candidate, they are bunch of mischievous people

I am Yoruba n I admit it with my full body n chest

I don’t have to claim another tribe

floret23:
Do you believe all Reno's post on Tinubu? If yes, I will upload here ten damaging tweets from Reno to Tinubu.

Reno started surpporting Peter Obi when he realized that almost all Atikulates of 2019 are now Obidients. For instance, I am a card carrying member of PDP in Osun State but Peter Obi is my only choice. Yoruba ni mi tokantokan sugbon Peter Obi ni choice mi.

You know a person has no point and argument when they quote Reno Omokri.

That Reno his is posting about has praised Peter Obi more than Tinubu and Atiku, his principal, put together.

FFK too and the so-called Deji Adeyanju, even the federal government have credited Obi more than their own Tinubu.

LocalStandard1:

This is not even an argument.

Tinubu has tied Lagos State in his pocket, if he can't bribe you he threatens and even kills you, that's not an argument.

Just cos Tinubu employed people doesn't mean he should own their very lives. No governer,not even a counselor can operate his area without employing people. Tinubu didn't help any one by employing them into positions.

What he's doing is called godfatherism and a mafia like system of government. He is a criminal in that state.

Ambode tried setting himself free Tinubu removed him. Osibanjo tried it and you people called him a traitor. Till date Osibanjo has become the bad guy in your enslaved minds over there.

Thank God Osibanjo still forth the good fight and is now free of your Lord.

but virtually everyone agreed tinubu did better than obi as governor

Any objections from u?

BATified2023:
u mischievous Igbo
I will not reply u again
This is the reason many don’t want to engage igbos n their candidate, they are bunch of mischievous people
I am Yoruba n I admit it with my full body n chest
I don’t have to claim another tribe

If you look at the topic again very well I said the most intelligent, not the most tribalistic. You stepped forward only to turn tribal, accusing everyone even your kinsmen of being a tribe you love to hate. Not a great plan! Not a legit way of intellectual debate!!

But what if you're talking to an Igbo, aren't they also Nigerians and humans too?

Or are they beyond your mental capacity?