Kobojunkie:
You would have to tell me what part of what is written says the angels rebelled cause I don't see it at all.

The sons of God reverence her are humans. It refers to a certain blood line. That of set. The son of Adam. Spirit don't have body. Only a man can impregnate a woman..simple biology..

22jumpstreet:
■ The sons of God reverence her are humans. It refers to a certain blood line. That of set. The son of Adam. Spirit don't have body. Only a man can impregnate a woman..simple biology..

Story, story... Story!!!🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

Kobojunkie:
You would have to tell me what part of what is written says the angels rebelled cause I don't see it at all.

Where are all of these written abeg!

TenQ:

This is the correct translation below
Quran 21:91
And the one who guarded her vulva, so We breathed into it through Our angel, making her and her son a sign for all peoples.

Are these two wrong interpretations?

1. The Arabic word "فُرُوجَهُمْ" ("furūjuhum" which translates to "their private parts" or "their genitals" in English.
2. The term "فَحْجَة" (fahjaha) in Arabic refers to a woman's private part of the vulva

Meaning that "furūjuhum" and "fahjaha" refers to PRIVATE PARTS. "furūjuhum" is Plural while "fahjaha" is singular FEMALE


The Private part of a Woman is called either VULVA or VAGINA!
This was what your Jibril BLEW into!

Your case is beyond redemption!

You just want to make up whatever you want then debunk it then lie to yourself you are debunking Islam?

Professor why did you translate fi-ha "فِيهَا" to "into it" and decided to translate wajaealna-ha "وَجَعَلْنَـٰهَا" and waibna-ha "وَٱبْنَهَآ" differently?

And also do well to tell us what the correct Arabic word should have been if it is "into her"

TenQ:

1. The thing is that Islam is first a spiritual deception
2. Then it is a spiritual prison

Apart from those who benefit from Islam, ALL Muslims emotionally truly want islam to be true even if they have to fabricate a lie to convince themselves

Obo n'gbe Obo gun Ope. Make Una two dey deceive Una self

Kobojunkie:
Story, story... Story!!!🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 Where are all of these written abeg!

The Jews don't have the idea of fallen angels. It is a Christian ideology.

Biology 101 only a man can impregnate a woman .
That's so simple

22jumpstreet:
The Jews don't have the idea of fallen angels. It is a Christian ideology. Biology 101 only a man can impregnate a woman . That's so simple

Story, story... Story!!!🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 Where are all of these written abeg!

TenQ:

Because Islam is a corrupted Arian religion serving Baal without knowing because the greatest Deceiver has imprisoned their reasoning faculty.

Only at death would majority discover that they have followed the Antichrist rather than the Messiah!

Say something sensible, not insane.

TenQ:

Not one bit. Because when my son was a toddler, I allow him beat me in wrestling match.

Too bad for Islam: incoherent collection of lies and fabrications that cannot withstand small questioning.

When Jibril became a man, did he stop being an angel?

When your God fought with Jacob and defeated did your God stop being God, even God of Jacob as some of you used to say?

Qasim6:


Your case is beyond redemption!

You just want to make up whatever you want then debunk it then lie to yourself you are debunking Islam?

Professor why did you translate fi-ha "فِيهَا" to "into it" and decided to translate wajaealna-ha "وَجَعَلْنَـٰهَا" and waibna-ha "وَٱبْنَهَآ" differently?

And also do well to tell us what the correct Arabic word should have been if it is "into her"

Your Arabic should be superior to what you are doing now.

The Arabic word "وَجَعَلْنَـٰهَا" is "wa ja'alnāhā." which means "And We made it."

It is three words where
"wa" means "and."
"ja'alnā" means "We made."
"hā" means "it."




The word "وَٱبْنَهَآ" is "wa ibnahā." meaning "And her son."

"wa" means[b] "and."[/b]
"ibn" means "son" or "child."
"hā" means "her" ( or "it" but the subject is son or child such tha "it" is not used for humans)

For Mary, the subject was non-human (even if we put all your preferred words of sleeve or chastity or vulva or Farjiha or private part), such that "ha" is "IT"




How much will you pay me for learning all these Arabic from my Arabic teacher?

gaskiyamagana:

When your God fought with Jacob and defeated did your God stop being God, even God of Jacob as some of you used to say?

Mr Liar!
I challenge you to shamefully show the verse where "God was defeated by Jacob" in the Bible.

We don't need to tell lies against Allah nor tell lies against Mohammed to make any point as your books betray you!

Again, as an intellectually dishonest person, show me the verse

TenQ:

Your Arabic should be superior to what you are doing now.

The Arabic word "وَجَعَلْنَـٰهَا" is "wa ja'alnāhā." which means "And We made it."

It is three words where
"wa" means "and."
"ja'alnā" means "We made."
"hā" means "it."




The word "وَٱبْنَهَآ" is "wa ibnahā." meaning "And her son."

"wa" means[b] "and."[/b]
"ibn" means "son" or "child."
"hā" means "her" ( or "it" but the subject is son or child such tha "it" is not used for humans)

For Mary, the subject was non-human (even if we put all your preferred words of sleeve or chastity or vulva or Farjiha or private part), such that "ha" is "IT"




How much will you pay me for learning all these Arabic from my Arabic teacher?

Why not just concede you made an awful gaffe and stop all this nonsense cover-up you are doing?

Awon dishonest bunch that just want to win argument at all cost.

gaskiyamagana:

Say something sensible, not insane.

Yes my brother,
Only at death would majority of you Muslims discover that you have followed the Antichrist rather than the Messiah!

With respect to God, something being simple to comprehend does not make it correct.


Tell me which of these is sensible and not insane about Islam?
-Is Kunfayakun sensible to natural logic?
-Is Mohammed going to the heavens on Al-Burak sensible to natural logic?
-Is Your Jibril having six hundreds wings is sensible to natural logic?
-Is it natural for Jibril to open up your prophets chest and wash it with ZamZam water?
-Is it sensible that Angels are afraid of dogs?
- Is it sensible or logical that Jibril has 600 wings?
-Is it sensible that Adam will appear to Mohammed and When he looked towards his right, he laughed and when he looked towards his left he wept?

In trying to manufacture a God after your whims, Islam arrived at Allah who is not Omnipresent nor Omniscient nor Omnipotent.

Qasim6:


Why not just concede you made an awful gaffe and stop all this nonsense cover-up you are doing?

Awon dishonest bunch that just want to win argument at all cost.

Khai!

I have beaten you blue back with evidence in Arabic (thanks to my teachers). I broke it to you like teaching a toddler the language of Arabic.

Even though you have no answer to the Truth, you must say something to help the cause of Allah and Islam taking you to Hell fire.

I challenge you to prove my breakdown of the two words وَجَعَلْنَـٰهَا and وَٱبْنَهَآ YOU presented as wrong!

TenQ:

Khai!

I have beaten you blue back with evidence in Arabic (thanks to my teachers). I broke it to you like teaching a toddler the language of Arabic.

Even though you have no answer to the Truth, you must say something to help the cause of Allah and Islam taking you to Hell fire.

I challenge you to prove my breakdown of the two words وَجَعَلْنَـٰهَا and وَٱبْنَهَآ YOU presented as wrong!

You yourself should take your breakdown of those two words and put it back in the statement and see if you arrive at your earlier translation, because you just break down "وَجَعَلْنَـٰهَا" as "and we made it".

Go get a refund from your amateur tutor and you should probably get him/her arrested for embarrassing you!

Qasim6:


Obo n'gbe Obo gun Ope. Make Una two dey deceive Una self

I am on Nairaland to help you open your eyes to the 419 document of Islam through Mohammed (aka Allah) that has been sold to you.


Why do you think your scholars lie so much to preserve Islam?

It is the spirit of deception that Deceives you from the Messiah to hell and it's prison that prevents you from coming out of it.
Thus
1. The thing is that Islam is first a spiritual deception
2. Then it is a spiritual prison


But would you stop to think? Most likely not!
Thus I can only pray for you for mercy!

Qasim6:


You yourself should take your breakdown of those two words and put it back in the statement and see if you arrive at your earlier translation, because you just break down "وَجَعَلْنَـٰهَا" as "and we made it".

Go get a refund from your amateur tutor and you should probably get him/her arrested for embarrassing you!

I console you this early morning for your pain in this.

I just gave you a challenge, break YOUR two words وَجَعَلْنَـٰهَا and وَٱبْنَهَآ down so that I can humiliate your further

Must you insist on Falsehood and Lies to keep Islam alive?

TenQ:

I am on Nairaland to help you open your eyes to the 419 document of Islam through Mohammed (aka Allah) that has been sold to you.


Why do you think your scholars lie so much to preserve Islam?

It is the spirit of deception that Deceives you from the Messiah to hell and it's prison that prevents you from coming out of it.
Thus
1. The thing is that Islam is first a spiritual deception
2. Then it is a spiritual prison


But would you stop to think? Most likely not!
Thus I can only pray for you for mercy!

We both know the religion that was built on lies, forgeries and deception.

Like unknown Matthew and Luke forging the document of an unknown Mark and another unknown John just making up words in his head and putting them in Jesus mouth. Not to talk of the countless numbers of interpolation.

You are the one in a spiritual prison.

TenQ:

I console you this early morning for your pain in this.

I just gave you a challenge, break YOUR two words وَجَعَلْنَـٰهَا and وَٱبْنَهَآ down so that I can humiliate your further

Must you insist on Falsehood and Lies to keep Islam alive?

I am going to be lenient with you and save you some embarrassment and allow you crawl back into your hole on this one.

Probably this will be the last we will be seeing this your "Jibril blew into Mary Vigina" because I was told you have been asking the question for ages and you probably will keep asking it till you die.

gaskiyamagana:

The angel sent as man to Marry is your headache about Islam, your biblical God that fought with Jacob as a man and was even defeated by Jacob didn't concern you, abi?

That one no dey concern them o!

Jacob fought Elohim and won!
He come hold Elohim that he won't leave him until he bless him!

Angels fit bless or Na God dey bless?

TenQ:

At least you now know that the phrase means empowerment!
This is sufficient for me!

Empowerment to pregnancy!

SIRTee15:


I'm beginning to suspect this AntiChristian.
He has engaged enough and long time with Christians here to know Islam is false.

I can bet deep within him he knows Muhammed is a false prophet and never spoke to any angel.
We have shown him countless times the problematic theology in Islam but yet remains obstinate.

I'm beginning to think he's benefiting from Islam. Only God knows if he's the treasurer of one Haj pilgrimage committee. The financial gain he's getting from Islam would not allowed him leave the religion.

My faith is stronger than ever that Islam is the only true religion and that Christianity was never practiced by Jesus or any of his disciples!
All the lies you typed above are simply lies!

I don't hold any Islamic position and is just a regular Muslim! See lies and lies! I have never gone for hajj and don't even know where the Hajj commission is! SirTee15 Opuro nla! Biggest liar!

SIRTee15:


Leave the bible out of your confusion.

Answer my question with the Quran.

According to the Qur'an, did Jubril stop being an angel when he appeared to Mary as a Man.

Check the Qur'an and tell us. If it's not there then that means the question is irrelevant!

SIRTee15:


Ok, at least U have admitted holy spirit coming upon a person has nothing to do with sex.
That settles the matter with holy spirit coming upon Mary.

Now why did a Man who appeared to Mary, lifted up her garment and blew into it.
In case U don't know, that's sexual assault.
Did the Man seek Mary's permission b4 lifting up her garment and blowing into her farjah.
Did Mary give consent?

Sorry but the whole event looks very gross and disturbing.
And yes, it's sexual assault. It's a violation of Mary's personal space, privacy and dignity.

It's wrong for a Man to appear to a woman in her room, lift up her garment and blew into it without consent.

See your statements in bold red! Do you have any evidence that the Angel that appeared as a man to Mary came close to her, lifted her garment before blowing in to her to necessitate all these jargons?

Sahih International: And [mention] the one who guarded her chastity, so We blew into her [garment] through Our angel [Gabriel], and We made her and her son a sign for the worlds.

Pickthall: And she who was chaste, therefor We breathed into her (something) of Our Spirit and made her and her son a token for (all) peoples.

Yusuf Ali: And (remember) her who guarded her chastity: We breathed into her of Our spirit, and We made her and her son a sign for all peoples.

Shakir: And she who guarded her chastity, so We breathed into her of Our inspiration and made her and her son a sign for the nations.

Muhammad Sarwar: Into the woman who maintained her chastity We breathed Our Spirit and made her and her son a miracle for all people.

Mohsin Khan: [/b]And (remember) she who guarded her chastity [Virgin Maryam (Mary)], We breathed into (the sleeves of) her (shirt or garment) [through Our Ruh ­ Jibrael (Gabriel)], and We made her and her son ['Iesa (Jesus)] a sign for Al-'Alamin (the mankind and jinns).

[b]Arberry: And she who guarded her virginity, so We breathed into her of Our spirit and appointed her and her son to be a sign unto all beings.

Do you derive joy in telling lies or your own Holy Spirit empowerment is telling lies?

Qasim6:


We both know the religion that was built on lies, forgeries and deception.

Of course both of us know that the Religion that had peddled lies of almost everything is the false religion
1. There is only one Quran
2. Scientific miracles in the Qur'an
3. Qur'an is the exact word of Allah
4. The Qur'an is perfectly preserved up to it's diacritical marks
5. Allah initially enjoined for Muslims 50 prayers per day

Only Allah allows Prostitution for Muslims
Only in Islam can a Prophet Abrogate the words of his Allah

Qasim6:

Like unknown Matthew and Luke forging the document of an unknown Mark and another unknown John just making up words in his head and putting them in Jesus mouth. Not to talk of the countless numbers of interpolation.

You are the one in a spiritual prison.

Unfortunately, Allah was uneducated enough to say otherwise about the gospel.

Who is to be blamed, you whose knowledge and wisdom exceed that of Allah and your prophet?

It's just a question!

Qasim6:


I am going to be lenient with you and save you some embarrassment and allow you crawl back into your hole on this one.

Probably this will be the last we will be seeing this your "Jibril blew into Mary Vigina" because I was told you have been asking the question for ages and you probably will keep asking it till you die.

Are you tongue tied?

The same demon is in both you and your prophet when they asked him about the spirit. We are still waiting for his answer till date.


I just gave you a challenge, break YOUR two words وَجَعَلْنَـٰهَا and وَٱبْنَهَآ down so that I can humiliate your further

AntiChristian:


Empowerment to pregnancy!

Empowerment to Incarnation!

The Word became Human and dwelt amongst us!
What a love that God has for us unworthy humans!

TenQ:

Empowerment to Incarnation!

The Word became Human and dwelt amongst us!
What a love that God has for us unworthy humans!

Holy Spirit empowered Mary and she got Pregnant!
Holy Spirit empowered Samson and he started killing!
Holy Spirit empowered you guys and you started telling lies and twisting tales!

TenQ:

Are you tongue tied?

The same demon is in both you and your prophet when they asked him about the spirit. We are still waiting for his answer till date.


I just gave you a challenge, break YOUR two words وَجَعَلْنَـٰهَا and وَٱبْنَهَآ down so that I can humiliate your further

With the breakdown u did, you and your amateur tutor should have realized the mistake you are making if both of you are honest to each other.

The subject of the sentence is "And she who" "وَٱلَّتِىٓ" it only make sense that "فِيهَا" "وَجَعَلْنَـٰهَا" and "وَٱبْنَهَآ" be translated to "and we made her", "into her", "and her son" respectively but you decided to be mischievous and you allow demon to keep fingering your brain.

Guy try have some shame and save yourself of further embarrassment.

you are deaf, dumb, and blind, so you will never return ˹to the Right Path˺

AntiChristian:


Holy Spirit empowered Mary and she got Pregnant!
Holy Spirit empowered Samson and he started killing!

Yes!

AntiChristian:

Holy Spirit empowered you guys and you started telling lies and twisting tales!

So you said because you are of the Darkness and the truth doesn't exist either in you nor with you.

+Is the Qur'an perfectly preserved up to it's diacritical marks?
+Is the Qur'an free of even a single error?
+Is Mohammed the best example for mankind?

Allah your answers to these three questions reflect the one who truely rules your life, and he is the father of lies

TenQ:

Yes!

So you said because you are of the Darkness and the truth doesn't exist either in you nor with you.

+Is the Qur'an perfectly preserved up to it's diacritical marks?
+Is the Qur'an free of even a single error?
+Is Mohammed the best example for mankind?

Allah your answers to these three questions reflect the one who truely rules your life, and he is the father of lies

So that lie don cast!
Over to the next one abi!

Liar!

Qasim6:


With the breakdown u did, you and your amateur tutor should have realized the mistake you are making if both of you are honest to each other.

The subject of the sentence is "And she who" "وَٱلَّتِىٓ" it only make sense that "فِيهَا" "وَجَعَلْنَـٰهَا" and "وَٱبْنَهَآ" be translated to "and we made her", "into her", "and her son" respectively but you decided to be mischievous and you allow demon to keep fingering your brain.

Guy try have some shame and save yourself of further embarrassment.

you are deaf, dumb, and blind, so you will never return ˹to the Right Path˺

First, do you admit that
1. The Arabic word "فُرُوجَهُمْ" and term "فَحْجَة" refers to the genitals or private parts of the man and woman respectively ?

Specifically for the woman it is Vulva or Vagina

2. The correct translation of Qur'an 21:91 is
Quran 21:91
And the one who guarded her vulva, so We breathed into it making her and her son a sign for all peoples.

The subject is the VULVA.

She guarded her vulva, so Allah breathe into the Vulva of his spirit.

Stop telling obvious lies.

Same with Quran 66:12

Tell me, what exactly did Mary guard?

AntiChristian:


So that lie don cast!
Over to the next one abi!

Liar!

The Liar is the one who defends what is untrue.
The liar is the one who speaks untruths
The liar is the one who wants to convince others against every evidence against the truth.

You defending Islam and Mohammed makes you a liar.


Do you notice one thing very common with you Muslims; You would refuse to answer direct questions and when you do, you will ignore evidences to conjure new lies.


Can we trust your Hadiths?
It's a yes or no question sir