My Toyota gurus, why are Toyota cars always having gear failures? From 1999 till date. Someone recently bought a used gear of a Lexus Rx 350 2017 model for 3.5m and a 2018 highlander for 2.5m. All these excuses of 13 pin, 30 pin, what is the way forward?

Buy manual instead

1. Most of the vehicle imported are salvaged, the gear system is already faulty from abroad because of the accident they were involved or the handling they received at the auction yard, to trucking and shipping carelessly till they got to nigerian soil. It's just unfortunate ot packed up in the hands of the current user.

2. Poor maintenance, I always change all the fluids of the vehicle I just acquired, for tokunbo I wait after 6months for naija used within a week some people are afraid and would rather use the tokunbo fluid like that not knowing the condition the vehicle came at, they won't even guage the fluid hence damage occurs.

3. Bad or ill trained technician plus high cost of goods in our country is also a major factor, the I'll trained technician love dextron III fluid like kilode because it is cheaper and readily available. Cost too sometimes chases owners away dextron III for 2000 sienna b4 was 800naira, it's now 2k for 1L while texamatic was 3500/L b4, it's now 8k/L. Honda DW1 was 4k/L while dual pump II axle fluid was 3500/L now both are 8k yo 8500/L and minimum wage still dey 30k ooo intruder to cut cost, sharp practised are bound which leads to failure on the long run.

4. The country is not yet ripe for those advanced technologies, the roads needed, fluids needed, competent hands needed are scarse resources go Mobil and Total nah 20w50 full their line up. We don't manufacture the necessary things needed to keep those cars on road infact since 1980s, nigerian tech space has been degrading and reason why at many mechanic workshops, you find high end vehicles abandoned there due to lack of spare parts or technical know how.

nurey:
Buy manual instead

1. Most of the vehicle imported are salvaged, the gear system is already faulty from abroad because of the accident they were involved or the handling they received at the auction yard, to trucking and shipping carelessly till they got to nigerian soil. It's just unfortunate ot packed up in the hands of the current user.

2. Poor maintenance, I always change all the fluids of the vehicle I just acquired, for tokunbo I wait after 6months for naija used within a week some people are afraid and would rather use the tokunbo fluid like that not knowing the condition the vehicle came at, they won't even guage the fluid hence damage occurs.

3. Bad or ill trained technician plus high cost of goods in our country is also a major factor, the I'll trained technician love dextron III fluid like kilode because it is cheaper and readily available. Cost too sometimes chases owners away dextron III for 2000 sienna b4 was 800naira, it's now 2k for 1L while texamatic was 3500/L b4, it's now 8k/L. Honda DW1 was 4k/L while dual pump II axle fluid was 3500/L now both are 8k yo 8500/L and minimum wage still dey 30k ooo intruder to cut cost, sharp practised are bound which leads to failure on the long run.

4. The country is not yet ripe for those advanced technologies, the roads needed, fluids needed, competent hands needed are scarse resources go Mobil and Total nah 20w50 full their line up. We don't manufacture the necessary things needed to keep those cars on road infact since 1980s, nigerian tech space has been degrading and reason why at many mechanic workshops, you find high end vehicles abandoned there due to lack of spare parts or technical know how.

You get time oo.

Sha add that most of those yotas are already high mileage (some with more than 250k miles).
I've seen a 2019 Corolla with 3xx,Bleep miles. Clean title!

Toyota is overrated in the part of the world. It's easy to work around and available fake parts is why over the year people prefer it and not because of durability

nurey:
Buy manual instead

1. Most of the vehicle imported are salvaged, the gear system is already faulty from abroad because of the accident they were involved or the handling they received at the auction yard, to trucking and shipping carelessly till they got to nigerian soil. It's just unfortunate ot packed up in the hands of the current user.

2. Poor maintenance, I always change all the fluids of the vehicle I just acquired, for tokunbo I wait after 6months for naija used within a week some people are afraid and would rather use the tokunbo fluid like that not knowing the condition the vehicle came at, they won't even guage the fluid hence damage occurs.

3. Bad or ill trained technician plus high cost of goods in our country is also a major factor, the I'll trained technician love dextron III fluid like kilode because it is cheaper and readily available. Cost too sometimes chases owners away dextron III for 2000 sienna b4 was 800naira, it's now 2k for 1L while texamatic was 3500/L b4, it's now 8k/L. Honda DW1 was 4k/L while dual pump II axle fluid was 3500/L now both are 8k yo 8500/L and minimum wage still dey 30k ooo intruder to cut cost, sharp practised are bound which leads to failure on the long run.

4. The country is not yet ripe for those advanced technologies, the roads needed, fluids needed, competent hands needed are scarse resources go Mobil and Total nah 20w50 full their line up. We don't manufacture the necessary things needed to keep those cars on road infact since 1980s, nigerian tech space has been degrading and reason why at many mechanic workshops, you find high end vehicles abandoned there due to lack of spare parts or technical know how.

I appreciate your experience.👍

9icetoo:

You get time oo.

Sha add that most of those yotas are already high mileage (some with more than 250k miles).
I've seen a 2019 Corolla with 3xx,Bleep miles. Clean title!

You mean 300k miles?
Damn

AutoManual:
Toyota is overrated in the part of the world. It's easy to work around and available fake parts is why over the year people prefer it and not because of durability

I agree. Just tooooo overrated.
Sometimes i feel we've been brain washed.

I'm serioisly considering branching out.

sooperrescue:
My Toyota gurus, why are Toyota cars always having gear failures? From 1999 till date. Someone recently bought a used gear of a Lexus Rx 350 2017 model for 3.5m and a 2018 highlander for 2.5m. All these excuses of 13 pin, 30 pin, what is the way forward?

The misconception that Toyota products are built to tolerate abuse. An average Toyota user pays little or no attention to his trans design, specified fluids and maintenance records.

David50:


You mean 300k miles?
Damn

Yep.
Seen worse but on older years.

To see a 2019 Corolla already 300k plus miles shocked me.

That's an average of 100k miles a year.

I'm sure it's running on its factory transmission.

aieromon:


The misconception that Toyota products are built to tolerate abuse. An average Toyota user pays little or no attention to his trans design, specified fluids and maintenance records.

Finish.

Some trust the under tree mechanics more than the manufacturers who specified recommended fluids, frequency of change and conditions of change.

Na Toyota people dey wash trans filter put am back. Then turn around to blame the transmission for failing.

9icetoo:

Finish.

Some trust the under tree mechanics more than the manufacturers who specified recommended fluids, frequency of change and conditions of change.

Na Toyota people dey wash trans filter put am back. Then turn around to blame the transmission for failing.

there are so many crazy mechanics here in Port Harcourt that I sometimes wonder why people here buy sophisticated cars at all when even the ordinary ones aren't safe. A friend lost his pencil light transmission to ABRO, I had my dashboard torn into two when a technician was looking for AC leakage etc. I personally don't think it's worth it owning a car if you can't afford a good mechanic. It's always years of frustration, salty tears and had I knowns before they eventually sell it off to another unfortunate person

Sometimes these mechanics use the wrong ATF . I had a 2008 Avalon running smooth as silk till mech told me.gear oil dirty .. paid and he drained and filled "the oil" back .. car ran smoothly no issue ABI ? Fast forward two weeks I was coming back from Abuja gear box packed up . That's when I learnt my first lesson in ATF. The mech used dexron 3 oil instead of W/S . Boldly written on the gear box dip stick is W/S ONLY ... to cut the long story short I Bought another tranny ... but the car was never the same again . Infact bought two trannys first one did this 10 pin thing with two brain boxes etc .. the car shifted very awkwardly .. zero performance... Bought the correct tranny again and poof it just didn't feel right .. sold the car for almost scrap . I believe using the right oil is very key and once your transmission goes kaput !! Just buy another car if you can . The stress of repairs just ain't worth it .

aieromon:


The misconception that Toyota products are built to tolerate abuse. An average Toyota user pays little or no attention to his trans design, specified fluids and maintenance records.

lol they lie to themselves that Toyota takes any kind of abuse,use palm oil as the transmission fluid it will still work,eyes don de clear,NO CAR WAS MANUFACTURED TO BE ABUSED.

dadabashua1:
lol they lie to themselves that Toyota takes any kind of abuse,use palm oil as the transmission fluid it will still work,eyes don de clear,NO CAR WAS MANUFACTURED TO BE ABUSED.

😂😂😂😂.make dem kuku dey pour acid inside the gear,since it can take alot of abuse.

Wahala dey o, the fake news about the car is high. My friend sold a 2005 Corolla for 4m. I shouted in disgust

nurey:
Buy manual instead

1. Most of the vehicle imported are salvaged, the gear system is already faulty from abroad because of the accident they were involved or the handling they received at the auction yard, to trucking and shipping carelessly till they got to nigerian soil. It's just unfortunate ot packed up in the hands of the current user.

2. Poor maintenance, I always change all the fluids of the vehicle I just acquired, for tokunbo I wait after 6months for naija used within a week some people are afraid and would rather use the tokunbo fluid like that not knowing the condition the vehicle came at, they won't even guage the fluid hence damage occurs.

3. Bad or ill trained technician plus high cost of goods in our country is also a major factor, the I'll trained technician love dextron III fluid like kilode because it is cheaper and readily available. Cost too sometimes chases owners away dextron III for 2000 sienna b4 was 800naira, it's now 2k for 1L while texamatic was 3500/L b4, it's now 8k/L. Honda DW1 was 4k/L while dual pump II axle fluid was 3500/L now both are 8k yo 8500/L and minimum wage still dey 30k ooo intruder to cut cost, sharp practised are bound which leads to failure on the long run.

4. The country is not yet ripe for those advanced technologies, the roads needed, fluids needed, competent hands needed are scarse resources go Mobil and Total nah 20w50 full their line up. We don't manufacture the necessary things needed to keep those cars on road infact since 1980s, nigerian tech space has been degrading and reason why at many mechanic workshops, you find high end vehicles abandoned there due to lack of spare parts or technical know how.

You killed the topic

9icetoo:

You get time oo.

Sha add that most of those yotas are already high mileage (some with more than 250k miles).
I've seen a 2019 Corolla with 3xx,Bleep miles. Clean title!

Omo! 2019 car with 300k miles? 😱 Was the owner driving the equivalent of Lagos to Maiduguri everyday?

David50:


I agree. Just tooooo overrated.
Sometimes i feel we've been brain washed.

I'm serioisly considering branching out.

Branch out and discover that the grass is not greener at the other end.

The fools have arrived with their toyota obsession. Small time now dem go carry honda enter thread wey no concern am. Once na Lexus or Toyota, dem go begin dey spout unsolicited trash

Nonentities

sooperrescue:
My Toyota gurus, why are Toyota cars always having gear failures? From 1999 till date. Someone recently bought a used gear of a Lexus Rx 350 2017 model for 3.5m and a 2018 highlander for 2.5m. All these excuses of 13 pin, 30 pin, what is the way forward?

we drive Benz for reasons like this

sooperrescue:
Wahala dey o, the fake news about the car is high. My friend sold a 2005 Corolla for 4m. I shouted in disgust

Toyota and Honda na gear box wahala champions

I don't know why people still buy those cars

The legion is finally here.

nurey:
Buy manual instead

1. Most of the vehicle imported are salvaged, the gear system is already faulty from abroad because of the accident they were involved or the handling they received at the auction yard, to trucking and shipping carelessly till they got to nigerian soil. It's just unfortunate ot packed up in the hands of the current user.

2. Poor maintenance, I always change all the fluids of the vehicle I just acquired, for tokunbo I wait after 6months for naija used within a week some people are afraid and would rather use the tokunbo fluid like that not knowing the condition the vehicle came at, they won't even guage the fluid hence damage occurs.

3. Bad or ill trained technician plus high cost of goods in our country is also a major factor, the I'll trained technician love dextron III fluid like kilode because it is cheaper and readily available. Cost too sometimes chases owners away dextron III for 2000 sienna b4 was 800naira, it's now 2k for 1L while texamatic was 3500/L b4, it's now 8k/L. Honda DW1 was 4k/L while dual pump II axle fluid was 3500/L now both are 8k yo 8500/L and minimum wage still dey 30k ooo intruder to cut cost, sharp practised are bound which leads to failure on the long run.

4. The country is not yet ripe for those advanced technologies, the roads needed, fluids needed, competent hands needed are scarse resources go Mobil and Total nah 20w50 full their line up. We don't manufacture the necessary things needed to keep those cars on road infact since 1980s, nigerian tech space has been degrading and reason why at many mechanic workshops, you find high end vehicles abandoned there due to lack of spare parts or technical know how.

Bros, this is experience talking. But your Sienna is not equipped with a manual transmission. All the transport companies that were using Sienna folded up. There is something that we always forget, that we are supposed to change the ATF every 15k miles. So if I ply Lagos Abuja, I should be changing the ATF every 3 months. No one is doing that and it is another reason for the gear failures. I guess it's one of the reasons why Toyota went to Ghana because they won't be able to handle the litigations if they were to be here. As we are analysing the faults and reasons of the faults, let us find a solution to this problem. I don't even want to talk about the ABS that cost over 1m on a GX 470 talkless of on the 2017 model of the highlander. Why will I buy an 18 year old 4 cylinder car for 4m? What am expecting to gain from it? If you are on the road, almost 80% are Toyota brand, it means that our motorists are suffering and smiling.

sooperrescue:


Bros, this is experience talking. But your Sienna is not equipped with a manual transmission. All the transport companies that were using Sienna folded up. There is something that we always forget, that we are supposed to change the ATF every 15k miles. So if I ply Lagos Abuja, I should be changing the ATF every 3 months. No one is doing that and it is another reason for the gear failures. I guess it's one of the reasons why Toyota went to Ghana because they won't be able to handle the litigations if they were to be here. As we are analysing the faults and reasons of the faults, let us find a solution to this problem. I don't even want to talk about the ABS that cost over 1m on a GX 470 talkless of on the 2017 model of the highlander. Why will I buy an 18 year old 4 cylinder car for 4m? What am expecting to gain from it? If you are on the road, almost 80% are Toyota brand, it means that our motorists are suffering and smiling.

ATF change every 15k miles

Where did you get this from?

Even Honda with very stringent ATF change interval does not recommend this.

Lie small small oga.

This your penchant for exaggeration and pulling facts out of thin air doesn't do you any good.

Inukwa 80%. Where did you conduct this ludicrous study?

9icetoo:

ATF change every 15k miles

Where did you get this from?

Even Honda with very stringent ATF change interval does not recommend this.

Lie small small oga.

This your penchant for exaggeration and pulling facts out of thin air doesn't do you any good.

Inukwa 80%. Where did you conduct this ludicrous study?

I did the research and it is either 25k kms or the equivalent in miles. Cars made in the USA go through stringent regulations that it will be very difficult to make cars that are not fit for their market. Every 15k miles, for some motorists, they might never get to the mileage in 2 years and for the transporters, it can be before 6 months. Do a survey on the Sienna that has been changed from 13 to 10 pins, majority are commercial

ATF change is every 60k miles. I use 2008 Honda Accord and that's what is written in the manual.

https://www.toyotapaloalto.com/blog/how-often-should-you-replace-or-inspect-the-transmission-fluid-in-your-toyota-vehicle/


When they say 15k to 100k miles, chose the one suitable for your car

agoodman:
ATF change is every 60k miles. I use 2008 Honda Accord and that's what is written in the manual.

When Castrol says 20000 miles guaranteed, you think that they are talking about Africa? How many of us has driven their cars for 50k miles in Nigeria?

aieromon:


The misconception that Toyota products are built to tolerate abuse. An average Toyota user pays little or no attention to his trans design, specified fluids and maintenance records.

Not when you are driving Toyota from 2012 above 👆

RZArecta:
there are so many crazy mechanics here in Port Harcourt that I sometimes wonder why people here buy sophisticated cars at all when even the ordinary ones aren't safe. A friend lost his pencil light transmission to ABRO, I had my dashboard torn into two when a technician was looking for AC leakage etc. I personally don't think it's worth it owning a car if you can't afford a good mechanic. It's always years of frustration, salty tears and had I knowns before they eventually sell it off to another unfortunate person

That was how one radio mechanic 👨‍🔧 was finding it very difficult to open my car dashboard because my reverse camera wasn’t working I have to stop him and give him either 1500 or 2k and left the place .

ariesbull:
Toyota and Honda na gear box wahala champions

I don't know why people still buy those cars

All cars have they own problems you just have to listen to your car very well

Smartguyboy:


All cars have they own problems you just have to listen to your car very well

I know but Toyota fears have high tendency to spoil

Benz fear has protective mechanism called Emergency mode which Toyota doesn't ...Benz fear rarely spoil

Toyota is over hyped