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Re: Is Jesus Christ Almighty? by AntiChristian: 8:50am On Mar 14, 2023
tctrills:

You got a few things wrong here. Christ became Almighty after he overcame death.
Now Christ had always been a God. The cub of a lion is a lion but it needs to grow into it's full measure.
Christ grew into the measure of his father and because of him, the rest of us can grow into that measure.
It's the most natural law.

Before Christ became your Almighty only his father was Almighty and All Knowing. Why?

“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Matthew 24:36 (What does ONLY mean in your dictionary)

We have one Almighty and All Knowing God!
If Christ became Almighty after he overcame death then why did Jesus after his alleged death say in John 20:17:
“Do not cling to Me,” Jesus said, “for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go and tell My brothers, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, to My God and your God.’”

Can Jesus who just became "Almighty" according to you still call God his God?
Can an Almighty get another Almighty?
Can their be two Almighties?

And why did Paul that never met Jesus say: For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus
1 Timothy 2:5?
Re: Is Jesus Christ Almighty? by tctrills: 1:26pm On Mar 14, 2023
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Before Christ became your Almighty only his father was Almighty and All Knowing. Why?
I don't understand your question but is it not obvious? Christ only became almighty after he overcame all things.

But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.Matthew 24:36(What does ONLY[mean in your dictionary)

We have one Almighty and All Knowing God!
If Christ became Almighty after he overcame death then why did Jesus after his alleged death say in John 20:17:
“Do not cling to Me,” Jesus said, “for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go and tell My brothers, ‘I am ascending to My Father and your Father, to My God and your God.


Becoming almighty is not the same as losing his respect and reverence for his Father and God. Let's put it this way when you become a father, does your father cease to be your father? Your becoming a father does not reduce your father's position rather, it increases it. Do you understand it now?

Can Jesus who just became "Almighty" according to you still call God his God?
Can an Almighty get another Almighty?
Can their be two Almighties?


The answer to all your questions is YES. So Almighty means to have all power. Let me again use my above example. When you become a father, do you still acknowledge your father as you used to?

And why did Paul that never met Jesus say: For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus
1 Timothy 2:5?


Nothing in Paul's statement shows Jesus Christ is not Almighty. Being the mediator between his Father and mankind does not reduce his powers, does it?
Re: Is Jesus Christ Almighty? by AntiChristian: 3:06pm On Mar 14, 2023
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tctrills

Edit well.
Re: Is Jesus Christ Almighty? by tctrills: 3:31pm On Mar 14, 2023
AntiChristian:


tctrills

Edit well.
I have edited, the bolded are your notes and my answers are below unbolded.
Re: Is Jesus Christ Almighty? by AntiChristian: 4:49pm On Mar 14, 2023
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In the Old Testament, only God was Almighty, Jesus was never mentioned anywhere! Why?

Becoming almighty is not the same as losing his respect and reverence for his Father and God. Let's put it this way when you become a father, does your father cease to be your father? Your becoming a father does not reduce your father's position rather, it increases it. Do you understand it now?
When I became a father, my dad became a grandfather. I now replaced my father in some things as he gets more advanced in age. So has God become more advanced in age to handover to Jesus as your similitude? You still didn't explain why Jesus called his father God?

The answer to all your questions is YES. So Almighty means to have all power. Let me again use my above example. When you become a father, do you still acknowledge your father as you used to?
It's not possible for two persons to have "all power" at the same time. I do acknowledge my dad as a Grandpa not Just father! More so, The father had a son (Jesus), why was Jesus barren?


Nothing in Paul's statement shows Jesus Christ is not Almighty. Being the mediator between his Father and mankind does not reduce his powers, does it?

Of course there is!

For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus
One God and Jesus is a man not God!

tctrills
Re: Is Jesus Christ Almighty? by tctrills: 7:14pm On Mar 14, 2023
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In the Old Testament, only God was Almighty, Jesus was never mentioned anywhere! Why?
The old testament was basically about Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is the Jehovah of the old testament.
When I became a father, my dad became a grandfather. I now replaced my father in some things as he gets more advanced in age. So has God become more advanced in age to handover to Jesus as your similitude? You still didn't explain why Jesus called his father God? When you because a father did your father cease to be your father? When Jesus became Almighty his father and God did not cease to be his father and God. Is it clear now. Being a Grandfather is not about old age. You can become a grandfather at the age of 40.
You also forgot that God does not get old so giving his Almighty power to his son is not about age

It's not possible for two persons to have "all power" at the same time. I do acknowledge my dad as a Grandpa not Just father! More so, The father had a son (Jesus), why was Jesus barren?
Actually it is very possible for 2 people to be Almighty. In school, is it not possible for 2 people to score 100% in a test? Does it diminish any of them?
How do you know Jesus Christ is barren. That is clearly your opinion.
If the Father can have sons and even ordinary men have sons, why do you think Jesus is barren?
Re: Is Jesus Christ Almighty? by tctrills: 5:35am On Mar 15, 2023

Of course there is!

For there is one God
and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus
One God and Jesus is a man not God


First of all, Paul did not call Jesus Christ a man in the verse you quoted.
Now let's read some other verses from the same Paul.

Hebrews 1.8
But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

1 Corinthians 10
Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;

2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;

3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;

4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

Colossians 2:9

9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

Colossians 1:16-20

16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
Once again, Paul never Called Jesus Christ a man. He actually taught that Jesus Christ is a God.

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