Najdorf:
Christians don't like critical thinking. They prefer to go to church and continue shouting and wailing for God to give them prosperity.

Man resigned it's authority to the devil the moment they disobeyed God in the Garden of Eden. That is why until the second coming of Christ, death and suffering will continue on this Earth.

See who is talking about critical thinking?

This is fallacy and irritating.
Satan is not a leader in any part of the world.
Almighty God is the Leader and Sole Ruler of the heavens and the earths. He doesn't share His kingdom with anyone.
Satan is just a mere jinn, he doesn't have any authority over you and I

advanceDNA:


I am not nicodemus
U are not Jesus

Lol! You're right though.

Na today I hear this one o

advanceDNA:
Every word of scripture has a context...nobody appointed the liar as anything... the "ruler if this world" also has a context ... .

The devil is a lair from the start...the guy can lie too much....all he said to jesus are mere distorted standard version if the truth... the nigga had nothing to give to Jesus even if Jesus bowed to him

Hahaha, Nigerians don't have sense, they could have known this since 2015...that change had nothing to offer

Najdorf:

You are wasting your time. The guy is clearly not ready to look at this thing clearly and challenge his beliefs. I find that most Christians love to feel they have full understanding of everything.

Okay sir. Thank you.

My own question is.. why didn't God sent Satan to another planet after the rebellion?

Mahmood Yakoob using the revolutionary irev portal to draw the hottest votes from hell!

Franking:
Problem solved.

Satan never asked God for forgiveness and am sure he will never; because of PRIDE.

ReacherSaidNoth:
See who is talking about critical thinking?

I could say the same to you sir

Apc

HomeTutorsPro:
So all our problems started when Eve ate the fruit and passed same to Adam and he too ate.
The fruit from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
God did not want man to eat the fruit from that tree and he told man so.

Why did God create that tree in the first place?

God knew the end from the beginning.
God knew that the serpent was going to deceive the woman, yet He created the woman for the man.
He allowed the serpent get to the woman, allowed the woman eat the fruit, allowed her take it to the man, allowed the man eat the fruit, then came along and spoke to them!

When they ate the fruit, their eyes were open and they realised they were naked.
So they were naked and did not know.
Just like mad people.
Did God actually intended for us to be unaware of ourselves (our physical bodies)?

These questions have been answered severally. If I want to appoint a CEO in my company, I know he will have the power to embezzle my funds but I will have to appoint a CEO anyways or close down the company.

Ask why, not who?

jesusjnr2020:
Who Appointed Satan The Ruler Of This World?

This is in continuation of a thread I made last week, where I said not all leaders were appointed by God and proved it with scriptures, especially the teaching of Christ. Yet there were some here, including Christians, who strongly disagreed with that position and were arguing because they believed all leaders were appointed by God.

Hence this is to illustrate how erroneous that idea of theirs is, because if they indeed believe God appointed every leader, that means they also believe that Satan was appointed by God as leader of this world, because they can't possibly believe that all leaders were appointed by God but at the same time not believe that God was the One that also appointed Satan to rule the world He made in the beginning.

Then imagine teaching believers to consequently subject themselves to Satan's authority, because all leaders were appointed by God... wouldn't that sound as heretic and antichrist as they could possibly come?

That's how glaringly false and ridiculous the idea that all leaders were appointed by God is, because the God who created the earth and everything in it had never on any occasion appointed Satan to rule over everything He made in the beginning.

It was never God's plan A or plan B up to plan Z for Satan to become the ruler of this world.

The only person God intended to have dominion and to rule over this world was the man He made in His own image.

That was the plan of God before He made man.

Genesis 1:26 (KJV)

[And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

That was actually the concept of God making man, to rule over His creation, so after God had made man (male and female), He officially appointed man the leader of the Earth and hence gave them charge, authority and dominion over everything He made in the beginning, to actualise His plan for making man.

Genesis 1:28 (KJV)

And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Therefore it was man that God appointed the ruler of the world He'd made and gave authority over it, never the devil.

God bless.

Read 1John 5 :19 Satan is called the ruler of this world. Satan even showed Jesus the the world and asked him to worship him so that he could give Jesus.Do yiu give what you don't have to a person? On another occasion Jesus said the ruler of this world ,Satan, is here and he has no hold on me. Who gave him the power ? It all Satan in the GARDEN OF Eden till the time of Noah . Additionally Rev12 from verse 1 shows Satan and his demons are now controlling the world.

And who told you Satan is the ruler of this world?

SKIBiNSKI:
Satan doesn't exist, it is just an imagination created in ignorant mad people's head. When i was a kid i visted my grand parents house they had a picture hanged on their house wall. A picture of a black man with two horns and a tail. Underneath was written Satan and on the same picture a picture of a white man (angel) stamping his foot on the head of the black man. And i thought, even as a kid i was, does that mean that me as a black man is Satan? By the way that kinda picture has being banned all over Europe and America co's it is said to be racist . But yet in Africa brainwashed idiats who calls themselves christians still kept these pictures and believes that satan (black people) exists and that angels are white blonde people. Satan do not exist, unless satan is really a black man! then maybe yes!

Don't quote me to yap rubbish about some unexistence white God or some white guy called Jesus who lives in the skies and created the whole world or coming soon to save me please. That shit doesn't exist either. All that shit are fairytales used to brainwash hopless lazy brainless Afrikkkans.

There was Christianity in Africa before it got to Europe. U are the one to know your history.

That's a very good question. Sounds like a rhetorical one. Devil should be ruler of the world with dominion we christians have.

Adam

And who appointed Jesus ruler of this world?

jesusjnr2020:
Who Appointed Satan The Ruler Of This World?

This is in continuation of a thread I made last week, where I said not all leaders were appointed by God and proved it with scriptures, especially the teaching of Christ. Yet there were some here, including Christians, who strongly disagreed with that position and were arguing because they believed all leaders were appointed by God.

Hence this is to illustrate how erroneous that idea of theirs is, because if they indeed believe God appointed every leader, that means they also believe that Satan was appointed by God as leader of this world, because they can't possibly believe that all leaders were appointed by God but at the same time not believe that God was the One that also appointed Satan to rule the world He made in the beginning.

Then imagine teaching believers to consequently subject themselves to Satan's authority, because all leaders were appointed by God... wouldn't that sound as heretic and antichrist as they could possibly come?

That's how glaringly false and ridiculous the idea that all leaders were appointed by God is, because the God who created the earth and everything in it had never on any occasion appointed Satan to rule over everything He made in the beginning.

It was never God's plan A or plan B up to plan Z for Satan to become the ruler of this world.

The only person God intended to have dominion and to rule over this world was the man He made in His own image.

That was the plan of God before He made man.

Genesis 1:26 (KJV)

[And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

That was actually the concept of God making man, to rule over His creation, so after God had made man (male and female), He officially appointed man the leader of the Earth and hence gave them charge, authority and dominion over everything He made in the beginning, to actualise His plan for making man.

Genesis 1:28 (KJV)

And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Therefore it was man that God appointed the ruler of the world He'd made and gave authority over it, never the devil.

God bless.

So, las las, who appointed Satan?

There's no Satan. The idea of satan is a foolish one

jesusjnr2020:
Who Appointed Satan The Ruler Of This World?

This is in continuation of a thread I made last week, where I said not all leaders were appointed by God and proved it with scriptures, especially the teaching of Christ. Yet there were some here, including Christians, who strongly disagreed with that position and were arguing because they believed all leaders were appointed by God.

Hence this is to illustrate how erroneous that idea of theirs is, because if they indeed believe God appointed every leader, that means they also believe that Satan was appointed by God as leader of this world, because they can't possibly believe that all leaders were appointed by God but at the same time not believe that God was the One that also appointed Satan to rule the world He made in the beginning.

Then imagine teaching believers to consequently subject themselves to Satan's authority, because all leaders were appointed by God... wouldn't that sound as heretic and antichrist as they could possibly come?

That's how glaringly false and ridiculous the idea that all leaders were appointed by God is, because the God who created the earth and everything in it had never on any occasion appointed Satan to rule over everything He made in the beginning.

It was never God's plan A or plan B up to plan Z for Satan to become the ruler of this world.

The only person God intended to have dominion and to rule over this world was the man He made in His own image.

That was the plan of God before He made man.

Genesis 1:26 (KJV)

[And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

That was actually the concept of God making man, to rule over His creation, so after God had made man (male and female), He officially appointed man the leader of the Earth and hence gave them charge, authority and dominion over everything He made in the beginning, to actualise His plan for making man.

Genesis 1:28 (KJV)

And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Therefore it was man that God appointed the ruler of the world He'd made and gave authority over it, never the devil.

God bless.

It's very important all men remember that it was woman who connived with Satan to take over dominion over the earth from man. Women have always been jealous of men's authority and it exists till this day with feminism. Men be wise like a serpent cos these hos ain't loyal

delkuf:
Even after he was casted to earth, he wasn't the boss. Man wàs the boss. It was when man sinned and disobeyed God, that was when man lost the rulership of the world. Until the Lord Jesus Christ came and gave back to those who believe in him

At what point was man the Boss and at what point was he cast from heaven?

Right there in Genesis, God created the heavens and earth and just two human beings, in the very next verse, Satan appeared on the sceen, so he must have been cast from heaven at this time.

Yes, Adam named all the animals but going by the Bible account, he did not possess any spectacular allure, power, mystic, etc that he handled over to the devil, for lack of a better word, the guy was dumb and stupid, because he lacks knowledge.

You can’t be powerful without knowledge, Adam did not have knowledge of good or evil until Satan appeared on the scene. In fact, Eve possessed this knowledge before Adam, only God knows how long Eve relented before agreeing to pass the fruit to Adam, so he can eat and possess knowledge.

The Bible even said, Adam became wise after eating from the fruit, but despite this wisdom he was still dumb enough to fail the first recorded question by God….Adam Adam, where are you? Simple question of location that he was asked, he went on a tangent and start complaining of his unclothedness and reporting Eve his wife to God.

There are many things we don’t know, it is more honorable to say ‘I don’t know’ than assuming and making stuff up.

God is a Title of a Spiritual Hierarchy, just like King.

Satan is also a title-Sat An.

When Spirit splits into Energy Components, the fractal organically becomes polar, due to imbalance. And Energy is released into the world.

The negative and positive exist by default and with free will, covalent bonding becomes a choice. You choose th3 charge to carry.

Eventually you will have to make a decision which side you should be.

Collective Consciousness is capable of omniscience etc and its AI component can generate Avatar.

Should you choose to call the positive God and negative Satan it's all nomenclature.

The Extra terrestrial entities now called Gods, angels, demons, jinns, etc are just intelligent entities and systems that we are capable as spirit fractals to be like if we increase our bandwidth of understanding.

At this moment, humanity is equipped with full understanding in theory of how to create simulations of our worlds holographically and operate as Avatar and that is what the extra terrestrial did long time ago and we are living in their hologram as avatars, in essence we are the Gods, Devils etc that you are trying to understand playing the human game.

That's why we say this world is not our home in religion. That's why you think of heaven and paradise.

Believe it or not, you are all simulated from some super computer by AI as avatars of some entities from a different reality.

Jesus , Buddha, Mohammed etc are just the programmers sending you coded messages through Avatars to reduce the entropy cos this is not a big deal, love means reduce entropy cos you are playing Life in Educational Avatar Reality Training Habitat (EARTH).

Y'all still believe in this Christianity sh!t

TheMaterialist:


So satan is the villain of the story.

A neccessary evil perhaps?

Yes, a necessary Evil

jesusjnr2020:
Who Appointed Satan The Ruler Of This World?

This is in continuation of a thread I made last week, where I said not all leaders were appointed by God and proved it with scriptures, especially the teaching of Christ. Yet there were some here, including Christians, who strongly disagreed with that position and were arguing because they believed all leaders were appointed by God.

Hence this is to illustrate how erroneous that idea of theirs is, because if they indeed believe God appointed every leader, that means they also believe that Satan was appointed by God as leader of this world, because they can't possibly believe that all leaders were appointed by God but at the same time not believe that God was the One that also appointed Satan to rule the world He made in the beginning.

Then imagine teaching believers to consequently subject themselves to Satan's authority, because all leaders were appointed by God... wouldn't that sound as heretic and antichrist as they could possibly come?

That's how glaringly false and ridiculous the idea that all leaders were appointed by God is, because the God who created the earth and everything in it had never on any occasion appointed Satan to rule over everything He made in the beginning.

It was never God's plan A or plan B up to plan Z for Satan to become the ruler of this world.

The only person God intended to have dominion and to rule over this world was the man He made in His own image.

That was the plan of God before He made man.

Genesis 1:26 (KJV)

[And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

That was actually the concept of God making man, to rule over His creation, so after God had made man (male and female), He officially appointed man the leader of the Earth and hence gave them charge, authority and dominion over everything He made in the beginning, to actualise His plan for making man.

Genesis 1:28 (KJV)

And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Therefore it was man that God appointed the ruler of the world He'd made and gave authority over it, never the devil.

God bless.

Man, the rulers of this world_ relinquished his authority unto satan through sin.
No argument about it.

You are a bitter soul. And yiur head is paining you

Faber:
Devil appointed himself the prince of this world. Just like Tinubu appointed himself president - elect.

We never voted the devil, we voted Bros J

I think he appointed himself

In the order of Sons, there's an hierarchy. Lucifer was a Prince in heaven even before his fall, so it's not as if Adam made him a Prince, No. And Prince are known to have immense power and authority. He was called Prince of this world because he has use his power and essence to influence this world (the earth) after he deceived Adam to be as him by disobeying God, according to the scripture. Christ is known as The Prince of Peace, because it is known and prophecied that during his reign on earth there will be endless peace.

Honestly, I don't understand this idea of Satan ruling the same world created solely by God. Even to the extent that God's children now have to pray to be freed from Satan.

It's very funny.

It is like saying a Tenant has taken charge over the house built by the Landlord. And the Landlord's children are now at the mercy of the Tenant.

It's a very ludicrous story.

Sometimes I ask why did Satan became jealous of God's worship by human after all he was a good angel before he became Saran the Devil