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The Lie That ‘russia Kidnapped Ukrainian Children’ Exposed At UN by rottennaija(m): 2:30am On Apr 08, 2023
The Lie That ‘Russia Kidnapped Ukrainian Children’ Exposed at UN

April 6, 2023, 2022 (EIRNS)—Great Britain and the United States blocked the webcast transmission of the Arria-formula meeting of UN Security Council members on “Children and Armed Conflict: Ukrainian Crisis. Evacuating Children from Conflict Zone,” which was keynoted by Maria Lvova-Belova, Presidential Commissioner of the Russian Federation on Children’s Rights. Mrs. Lvova-Belova, along with Russian President Vladimir Putin, has been indicted by the International Criminal Court, for removing orphans from the Donetsk, Lugansk, and Zaporozhye war zones.

There’s no wonder, the Anglo-Americans can’t have their reckless lies exposed. Since the Arria-formula hearing is informal, the Russian mission livestreamed the event on its social media. The transcript of Ambassador Vassily Nebenzia’s opening remarks to the hearing include links to testimony by emigrant Ukrainian mothers or their attorney in Germany, Spain and Portugal, whose children were forcibly removed by the host governments and placed in orphanages or foster homes. The mothers are rarely, if ever, allowed to see their children, and are being pressured to give their children up for adoption.

Lvova-Belova testified that of the more than 5 million refugees whom Russia has taken in since February 2022, there have been around 700,000 children. All have come with their parents, relatives, or legal guardians, except for 2,000 who were in orphanages in the Donbass republics, subject to Ukrainian artillery. Now that Russia has established control and stability over major areas of Donbass, about 1,300 of them have been returned to their Donbass orphanages; another 400 or so whose orphanages in Donbass are still unsafe, remain in orphanages in Russia; finally, there are 358 orphans in foster homes.

Lvova-Belova explained that, to date, there are 16 Ukrainian children staying in children’s health camps in Crimea and the Krasnodar region. “Parents of some of those children are in the European Union now. We have submitted the information to the International Committee of the Red Cross, and we do very much hope for their assistance in reuniting” the children with their families. “Everybody demands that parents and children be reunited.... However, we do not see a single fact or a single document of the Ukrainian side, except the statements released on social networks and in the media by the country’s leadership.” She repeated multiple times that the Russian authorities are unable to contact Ukrainian authorities under Kiev law, and therefore contacts must take place via third parties, which increases how much time it takes to reunite families.

Earlier her office had criticized Ukrainian authorities for not evacuating the orphans from war zones. However, the reality is that nine years of Kiev regime shelling into Donetsk and Lugansk republics has been the major factor in leaving Donbass children orphans. She pointed out that in the last year, Western weapons provided to Kiev have increased the area the regime can strike with artillery, including non-military civilian areas, where children should be safe, but are no longer.

https://twitter.com/Navsteva/status/1644424893738409989?t=T1EionL8Y5ZZmojlKlit3w&s=19

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Re: The Lie That ‘russia Kidnapped Ukrainian Children’ Exposed At UN by rottennaija(m): 2:33am On Apr 08, 2023
When fraud is exposed, U.K. and U.S. walk out of UN Security Council

April 6, 2023, 2022 (EIRNS)—The British Empire and the U.S. doubled down on their hypocritical travesty yesterday at the UN, when the testimony exposing their transparent fraud of the alleged Russian kidnapping of Ukrainian children was presented at an informal hearing convened by Russia for members of the UN Security Council.

The British intervened to block the livestream of the testimony from Presidential Commissioner of the Russian Federation on Children’s Rights Maria Lvova-Belova, the U.S. supported the blackout, and the representatives of the two countries walked out of the room, joined by Albania and Malta.

Russia livestreamed the two and half-hour testimony by Lvova-Belova, and by emigré Ukrainian mothers and their attorneys in the EU, and others, on its social media.

U.S. Ambassador to the UN Linda Thomas-Greenfield told reporters: “As Russia takes on the presidency of the Security Council, we will use every opportunity to push back on their using their perch in the chair to spread disinformation and to use their chair to push support of their efforts. So, it’s for that reason today that we have opposed ... a woman who has been charged with war crimes, who has been involved in deporting and removal of children from their homes to Russia.” The Anglo-Americans will not allow their victim, Lvova-Belova, “an international podium to spread disinformation and to try to defend her horrible actions.”

Translation: The woman who led the effort to save 2,000 orphans from a war zone and is now trying to place them with relatives, if possible; or, if not, to care for them and possibly find couples willing to adopt—that woman we not only accuse of being a war criminal, but we refuse to have our outrageous lie challenged.

Russia’s UN Ambassador Vassily Nebenzia responded: “We organized our meeting in order to tell the truth about this situation. To let those who are directly involved have first-hand knowledge. This is what informal Arria-formula meetings of the Security Council are all about. But you don’t want to listen and to hear. It is clear that you find this unpleasant and that it contradicts your narrative,” TASS quoted him as saying.

“You don’t need the truth, you have already reached a verdict based on false facts and speculation, as it was the case with Skripals, with the alleged poisoning of Navalny, and with the vile provocation in Bucha. This list can be prolonged. You are quite comfortable living in that cocoon of lies and keeping your public inside it, too. You dismiss anything that threatens it as Russian propaganda.... It is you, not us, who impose censorship on the Security Council.”

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Re: The Lie That ‘russia Kidnapped Ukrainian Children’ Exposed At UN by rottennaija(m): 2:38am On Apr 08, 2023
New info has just entered public domain regarding Ukraine, reportedly by a guy named Lucca.

It says Ukraine’s medium range air defense will be unable to protect frontline forces (FLOT) by 13 May as it will run out of missiles for those areas.

This is because Ukrainian AD prioritizes critical national infrastructure (CNI) like power stations/substations over FLOT.

Re: The Lie That ‘russia Kidnapped Ukrainian Children’ Exposed At UN by rottennaija(m): 2:39am On Apr 08, 2023
rottennaija:
New info has just entered public domain regarding Ukraine, reportedly by a guy named Lucca.

It says Ukraine’s medium range air defense will be unable to protect frontline forces (FLOT) by 13 May as it will run out of missiles for those areas.

This is because Ukrainian AD prioritizes critical national infrastructure (CNI) like power stations/substations over FLOT.

One of the documents also state that the Ukrainian 82nd Brigade will receive the 14 British Challenger 2 tanks and 40 German Marder IFVs.

The 33rd Brigade will receive majority of the Leopard 2A4, A5 and A6 tanks.

On the J4 Logistics part, it’s a bit blurry, but it seems to say that Ukraine has expended over 953k artillery shells and over 9500 Himars GMLRS rockets. It could be true as the US had already made over 50k GMLRS by 2021.

It also says that Ukraine uses ~2750 artillery shells per week and 14~GMLRS per week. This is likely referring to the usage rate for February and not for the whole war.

Re: The Lie That ‘russia Kidnapped Ukrainian Children’ Exposed At UN by rottennaija(m): 2:41am On Apr 08, 2023
rottennaija:


One of the documents also state that the Ukrainian 82nd Brigade will receive the 14 British Challenger 2 tanks and 40 German Marder IFVs.

The 33rd Brigade will receive majority of the Leopard 2A4, A5 and A6 tanks.

On the J4 Logistics part, it’s a bit blurry, but it seems to say that Ukraine has expended over 953k artillery shells and over 9500 Himars GMLRS rockets. It could be true as the US had already made over 50k GMLRS by 2021.

It also says that Ukraine uses ~2750 artillery shells per week and 14~GMLRS per week. This is likely referring to the usage rate for February and not for the whole war.

But we should remain skeptical of all this info. This info could probably be cross-referenced by RU intel to confirm whether any of this matches reality.

For example, this document claims a Ukrainian S-300 was damaged on February 21 by Lancet, I’m sure someone working on RU side could confirm this

Re: The Lie That ‘russia Kidnapped Ukrainian Children’ Exposed At UN by rottennaija(m): 2:47am On Apr 08, 2023
On October 19, 2022, 600 troops of the Ukrainian special forces launched a failed assault across the Dnieper River aimed to capture the Russian-held Zaporozhye Nuclear Power Plant (ZNPP)
📰 The Times

While Russian sources, including the Russian Defense Ministry, immediately reported the Ukrainian attack and its failure back then, this new article brings out confirmation by Ukrainian sources, and describes the Ukrainian point of view.

According to servicemen who participated in the operation, 600 Ukrainian troops attempted to land on the shores of Energodar using around 30 speedboats. Previous to the assault, positions around the ZNPP were hit by Ukrainian artillery.

Some boats managed to land, immediately welcomed by Russian gunfire, but the main force never reached the other side of the river due to a competent Russian defense.

While there is no mention of casualties in the article, the Russian Ministry of Defense reported on October 19, 2022, that 90 Ukrainian troops were killed and 14 speedboats were destroyed.

This was not the first thwarted operation by Ukrainian troops to capture the ZNPP. However, the official position of the Kiev regime has been to deny Ukrainian attempted assaults and artillery strikes near the ZNPP. This western article contradicts both statements.

Re: The Lie That ‘russia Kidnapped Ukrainian Children’ Exposed At UN by rottennaija(m): 2:50am On Apr 08, 2023
rottennaija:
On October 19, 2022, 600 troops of the Ukrainian special forces launched a failed assault across the Dnieper River aimed to capture the Russian-held Zaporozhye Nuclear Power Plant (ZNPP)
📰 The Times

While Russian sources, including the Russian Defense Ministry, immediately reported the Ukrainian attack and its failure back then, this new article brings out confirmation by Ukrainian sources, and describes the Ukrainian point of view.

According to servicemen who participated in the operation, 600 Ukrainian troops attempted to land on the shores of Energodar using around 30 speedboats. Previous to the assault, positions around the ZNPP were hit by Ukrainian artillery.

Some boats managed to land, immediately welcomed by Russian gunfire, but the main force never reached the other side of the river due to a competent Russian defense.

While there is no mention of casualties in the article, the Russian Ministry of Defense reported on October 19, 2022, that 90 Ukrainian troops were killed and 14 speedboats were destroyed.

This was not the first thwarted operation by Ukrainian troops to capture the ZNPP. However, the official position of the Kiev regime has been to deny Ukrainian attempted assaults and artillery strikes near the ZNPP. This western article contradicts both statements.


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/6e70e15c-d528-11ed-9f4d-c5bd4b89feab?shareToken=e4975949da016b3ccd743f41337837e3

Re: The Lie That ‘russia Kidnapped Ukrainian Children’ Exposed At UN by Hotice085: 6:07am On Apr 08, 2023
rottennaija:
The Lie That ‘Russia Kidnapped Ukrainian Children’ Exposed at UN

April 6, 2023, 2022 (EIRNS)—Great Britain and the United States blocked the webcast transmission of the Arria-formula meeting of UN Security Council members on “Children and Armed Conflict: Ukrainian Crisis. Evacuating Children from Conflict Zone,” which was keynoted by Maria Lvova-Belova, Presidential Commissioner of the Russian Federation on Children’s Rights. Mrs. Lvova-Belova, along with Russian President Vladimir Putin, has been indicted by the International Criminal Court, for removing orphans from the Donetsk, Lugansk, and Zaporozhye war zones.

There’s no wonder, the Anglo-Americans can’t have their reckless lies exposed. Since the Arria-formula hearing is informal, the Russian mission livestreamed the event on its social media. The transcript of Ambassador Vassily Nebenzia’s opening remarks to the hearing include links to testimony by emigrant Ukrainian mothers or their attorney in Germany, Spain and Portugal, whose children were forcibly removed by the host governments and placed in orphanages or foster homes. The mothers are rarely, if ever, allowed to see their children, and are being pressured to give their children up for adoption.

Lvova-Belova testified that of the more than 5 million refugees whom Russia has taken in since February 2022, there have been around 700,000 children. All have come with their parents, relatives, or legal guardians, except for 2,000 who were in orphanages in the Donbass republics, subject to Ukrainian artillery. Now that Russia has established control and stability over major areas of Donbass, about 1,300 of them have been returned to their Donbass orphanages; another 400 or so whose orphanages in Donbass are still unsafe, remain in orphanages in Russia; finally, there are 358 orphans in foster homes.

Lvova-Belova explained that, to date, there are 16 Ukrainian children staying in children’s health camps in Crimea and the Krasnodar region. “Parents of some of those children are in the European Union now. We have submitted the information to the International Committee of the Red Cross, and we do very much hope for their assistance in reuniting” the children with their families. “Everybody demands that parents and children be reunited.... However, we do not see a single fact or a single document of the Ukrainian side, except the statements released on social networks and in the media by the country’s leadership.” She repeated multiple times that the Russian authorities are unable to contact Ukrainian authorities under Kiev law, and therefore contacts must take place via third parties, which increases how much time it takes to reunite families.

Earlier her office had criticized Ukrainian authorities for not evacuating the orphans from war zones. However, the reality is that nine years of Kiev regime shelling into Donetsk and Lugansk republics has been the major factor in leaving Donbass children orphans. She pointed out that in the last year, Western weapons provided to Kiev have increased the area the regime can strike with artillery, including non-military civilian areas, where children should be safe, but are no longer.

https://twitter.com/Navsteva/status/1644424893738409989?t=T1EionL8Y5ZZmojlKlit3w&s=19




Mr Rotten which other rotten lying news do you have
Re: The Lie That ‘russia Kidnapped Ukrainian Children’ Exposed At UN by rottennaija(m): 6:41am On Apr 08, 2023
China invites Venezuela to an ambitious lunar project with Russia
Venezuela may join China and Russia in the International Lunar Research Station project, which was launched in June 2021.

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Re: The Lie That ‘russia Kidnapped Ukrainian Children’ Exposed At UN by rottennaija(m): 6:47am On Apr 08, 2023
Short 🧵

In recent days have witnessed trial balloons concerning Poland's role in the empire's next "countermove" against Russia.

The joining of Ukraine to Poland has been floated, perhaps even along with the Lithuanians.

🤦‍♂️

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Re: The Lie That ‘russia Kidnapped Ukrainian Children’ Exposed At UN by rottennaija(m): 8:49am On Apr 08, 2023
Mykhailo Podolyak doesn't hide his genocidal intentions for Crimeans, regardless of their ethnicities, for supporting Russkiy Mir if Ukraine were to occupy Crimea. Yes, "occupy", because according to numerous Western surveys, Crimeans absolutely insist that Crimea is Russia.🧵

Re: The Lie That ‘russia Kidnapped Ukrainian Children’ Exposed At UN by Tiopii: 8:23am On Apr 10, 2023
You surprise attack a sovereign nation, During the early days of the war Ukr asked for safe corridors for passage of civilians, Russia after sometimes agreeing would shell those corridors killing civilians and children. then Russia still blame Ukr for not evacuating children. this doesn't make sense. some people can still reason.

The truth remains, Any Child that was taken out of Ukraine without parents/guardian/govt approval was kidnapped. the war crimes raised against Russia are valid. we don't need to lie bout events we all witnessed
Re: The Lie That ‘russia Kidnapped Ukrainian Children’ Exposed At UN by Oniks001(m): 10:05am On Apr 10, 2023
Stop watching CNN, you have all your facts twisted. The kids were sent to Russia with the approval of their parents.if not ,so why haven’t any of the parents gone on tv to say otherwise ? I m sure the lying MSM will immediately rush to interview them. The US in the other hand took many kids from Vietnam, and one of the flights crashed during the evacuation and killed all.

Tiopii:
You surprise attack a sovereign nation, During the early days of the war Ukr asked for safe corridors for passage of civilians, Russia after sometimes agreeing would shell those corridors killing civilians and children. then Russia still blame Ukr for not evacuating children. this doesn't make sense. some people can still reason.

The truth remains, Any Child that was taken out of Ukraine without parents/guardian/govt approval was kidnapped. the war crimes raised against Russia are valid. we don't need to lie bout events we all witnessed
Re: The Lie That ‘russia Kidnapped Ukrainian Children’ Exposed At UN by Tiopii: 9:03am On Apr 11, 2023
Oniks001:
Stop watching CNN, you have all your facts twisted. The kids were sent to Russia with the approval of their parents.if not ,so why haven’t any of the parents gone on tv to say otherwise ? I m sure the lying MSM will immediately rush to interview them. The US in the other hand took many kids from Vietnam, and one of the flights crashed during the evacuation and killed all.



I really don't understand you, The Govt is saying Russia kidnapped children from Ukraine, you're saying the parents of the child should have gone on TV in a region that's currently in war. you're bent on pushing Russia's narrative not the truth..


If the US kidnapped Vietnam children, they were wrong.
Man call a spade a spade. Your lies won't strengthen the Russian army
Re: The Lie That ‘russia Kidnapped Ukrainian Children’ Exposed At UN by basilico: 10:42am On Apr 11, 2023
Tiopii:
You surprise attack a sovereign nation, During the early days of the war Ukr asked for safe corridors for passage of civilians, Russia after sometimes agreeing would shell those corridors killing civilians and children. then Russia still blame Ukr for not evacuating children. this doesn't make sense. some people can still reason.

The truth remains, Any Child that was taken out of Ukraine without parents/guardian/govt approval was kidnapped. the war crimes raised against Russia are valid. we don't need to lie bout events we all witnessed

In. a warzone civilians are evacuated. Last I checked children were civilians.
Leaving them in the orphanage being shelled would be a war crime.
Re: The Lie That ‘russia Kidnapped Ukrainian Children’ Exposed At UN by Tiopii: 4:21pm On Apr 11, 2023
basilico:

In. a warzone civilians are evacuated. Last I checked children were civilians. Leaving them in the orphanage being shelled would be a war crime.

Read what you quoted slowly
Re: The Lie That ‘russia Kidnapped Ukrainian Children’ Exposed At UN by Tiopii: 4:28pm On Apr 11, 2023
basilico:


In. a warzone civilians are evacuated. Last I checked children were civilians.
Leaving them in the orphanage being shelled would be a war crime.


fir clarity sake.

Ukr asked for safe corridors to evacuate their citizens, Russia after accepting to keep a safe corridor for civilians would still shell those supposedly safe passages, killing civilians.

After you normalized and justified the war, you still want to justify the kidnapping. you know the truth just admit.

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