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Hausa-Fulanis Are Indigenes Of Jos– Passali by aloyemeka1: 3:59pm On Sep 25, 2011 |
[size=14pt]Hausa are Jos indigenes–Passali[/size] From KENNY ASHAKA and Mariam Agboola, Jos Sunday, September 25, 2011 •Passali There seems to be no end insight yet to the ethno-religious crisis in Jos. When the Chief of Defence Staff was mandated to ensure peace and stability in the troubled city, a lot of people heaved a sigh of relief in the hope that the crisis would soon be put behind them. But in spite of that, the city still remains balkanized along religious lines such that it is now dangerous for residents to move freely. In this interview, Alhaji Danladi Passali, the politician who claimed he won the Jos North primary election conducted by the PDP for the local council poll in 2008, spoke on the endless search for peace in the state, saying the pains currently being experienced by the people are self-inflicted. Excerpts: We have confidence in CDS The crisis is only in Beromland. Even in Berom land it is mainly the people from Du who are creating the problem. That is the place the Governor comes from. The whole crisis started from his village. People did not go down to history. If you talk of Dogon Na Hauwa, it is the name of an Hausa man. They were driven away from the village and Beroms entered their houses. Government has to intervene so that people that are being thrown out of their villages are returned back. People of Dogon Na Hauwa, Kuru that were being killed should be allowed to return to their villages. The government should go and dialogue with them. They should rebuild their houses and take them back. That is the solution. It is unthinkable to believe that people that have stayed for 300 to 400 years will remain a settler or he cannot be provided with job and enjoy scholarship and employment. Let me give you examples. Do you know that Yorubas migrated and became indigenes of Kogi state? Can you as all the Sunday Awoniyis or Adebayos to go back to their state? Can you tell the Igbos in Asaba that founded the place to go back to Onitsha? Or can you go to Rivers State and tell the Igbos in Okigwe that they should leave and go back to Abia? Or go to Kwara and tell the sultanate or the Gambaris that they should leave and go back to Sokoto? They only got there during the jihad. But the Hausas have been here for over 1000 years. We are talking of a period of trans-Atlantic slave trade which was in about 16th century. We have told our people to cooperate and welcome the CDS. We know that with his coming, government is ready for peace. If he calls on us we are ready to give him candid advice. The only option is that all those Fulanis should be returned to their villages and for the government to pay them back their cows. These conditions are not too difficult to meet. Do you want them to be roaming about in Nigeria and be homeless? Hausa-Fulanis must be given equal opportunities It is not that we want to be regarded as indigenes; we are indigenes of this state. We founded this place and should be given equal opportunities as normal human beings and carry out our activities. For the past 50 years, we cannot get employment or scholarship in this state. We have 90 percent of unemployed youths in Jos, which is abnormal. There is no state that has as much as that. Our youths are now becoming drug addicts and this is why we have high rate of crisis. These youths are all roaming about; no scholarship, no employment; nothing. How do you think we can have peace without solving that problem? Even if you bring the battalion of soldiers in Nigeria here, immediately the soldiers leave, there will be crisis, unless you go to the root cause of the crisis and solve it. The press must bring out the truth so that we solve this problem. We have 777 local governments in this country. http://www.sunnewsonline.com/webpages/news/national/2011/sept/25/national-25-09-2011-003.html |
Re: Hausa-Fulanis Are Indigenes Of Jos– Passali by Rgp92: 4:11pm On Sep 25, 2011 |
aloy/emeka: hehe. . . . . . The Igbo have been here for 4k years and yoruba for 3k year. Anyway his right. Equality to everyone including women |
Re: Hausa-Fulanis Are Indigenes Of Jos– Passali by ektbear: 4:29pm On Sep 25, 2011 |
Yoruba are not migrants to Kogi. |
Re: Hausa-Fulanis Are Indigenes Of Jos– Passali by aloyemeka1: 4:37pm On Sep 25, 2011 |
ekt_bear: Don't mind the ignorant politician. That's why the Fulani is struggling to claim Kwara when they are the real migrants there. |
Re: Hausa-Fulanis Are Indigenes Of Jos– Passali by udezue(m): 4:56pm On Sep 25, 2011 |
Lol Hausas are settlers jare. The Beroms should continue to assert their ownership of Jos. |
Re: Hausa-Fulanis Are Indigenes Of Jos– Passali by nduchucks: 5:14pm On Sep 25, 2011 |
I'm glad that the constitutional amendment in progress will include firm residency provisions such that if a citizen has lived in any state in Nigeria continuously for more than 3years, he becomes a resident of that state and will have the same legal rights as any other resident of the state, indigene or not. We will, Insha Allah, stall the amendment process if this provision is not included. |
Re: Hausa-Fulanis Are Indigenes Of Jos– Passali by aljharem3: 5:29pm On Sep 25, 2011 |
passili is very right. this indigene settler thing has to stop. there re indigenous hausa/fulani/kanuri in jos. I have always said this although he was wrong in some ascension. 1. Gambaris are not indigenous to kwara. reason why they are now considered as indigenes is because of the inter mixing with other ethnic groups in kwara. 2. Yorubas did not migrate to kogi. there are indigeneous there. infact there was nothing like okun yoruba before until babaginda moved them to kogi. 3. Asaba have been there times when asaba was well inhabited. No one could lay claims to that apart from the anioma people. 4. Hausa and kanuri are indigenous to jos way before the jihad by Usman. as far back as the 1400's. Unless he meant the fulani's are migrates then yes but not hausa or kanuri. |
Re: Hausa-Fulanis Are Indigenes Of Jos– Passali by aloyemeka1: 5:37pm On Sep 25, 2011 |
alj_harem: One wonders why Seun does not require proof of First school leaving certificate before allowing these almajiris to register here. I always spend about 20 minutes trying to grasp what this illiterate tribalist writes. |
Re: Hausa-Fulanis Are Indigenes Of Jos– Passali by aljharem3: 5:46pm On Sep 25, 2011 |
aloy/emeka: so you are so stu.pid enough that u can not correct me. yes even though me english is bad. |
Re: Hausa-Fulanis Are Indigenes Of Jos– Passali by aloyemeka1: 5:49pm On Sep 25, 2011 |
alj_harem: yOU CAN COMMUNICATE WITH yORUBA INSTEAD OF MURDERING eNGLISH. wHY AM i REPLYING THIS gay SEF?. |
Re: Hausa-Fulanis Are Indigenes Of Jos– Passali by aljharem3: 5:51pm On Sep 25, 2011 |
aloy/emeka: then if u know u can not correct mines english, the stfu |
Re: Hausa-Fulanis Are Indigenes Of Jos– Passali by naijaking1: 6:16pm On Sep 25, 2011 |
Passali's statement (in red)underlies the reason for the conflict: factual inaccuracy "Igbos Okigwe to go back to Abia" Igbos in Asaba coming from Onitsha? This guy is either a stark historical illiterate or a mischief maker. |
Re: Hausa-Fulanis Are Indigenes Of Jos– Passali by aletheia(m): 6:20pm On Sep 25, 2011 |
@Topic: Hausa are not indigenous to Jos. Neither have they been there since the 1400s. This revisionist history in a bid to steal the heritage of the 3 indigenous tribes of Jos viz: Berom/Anaguta/Afizere
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Re: Hausa-Fulanis Are Indigenes Of Jos– Passali by aloyemeka1: 6:20pm On Sep 25, 2011 |
naijaking1: He said Igbos in Okigwe River state to go back to Abia State. |
Re: Hausa-Fulanis Are Indigenes Of Jos– Passali by ikeyman00(m): 6:28pm On Sep 25, 2011 |
@@@@@@@@@ ndu_chucks Posts: 2221 Re: Hausa Are Jos Indigenes–passali « #5 on: Today at 05:14:06 PM » I'm glad that the constitutional amendment in progress will include firm residency provisions such that if a citizen has lived in any state in Nigeria continuously for more than 3years, he becomes a resident of that state and will have the same legal rights as any other resident of the state, indigene or not. We will, Insha Allah, stall the amendment process if this provision is not included. the same way we the people are anticipating the end of 419 shaira laws as against NIgeria constitutional laws. By right shaira should only be allowed to have a breath of fresh air in the mosques premises nothing more and nothing less yes insha allah and as well in jesus name amen! |
Re: Hausa-Fulanis Are Indigenes Of Jos– Passali by aljharem3: 6:28pm On Sep 25, 2011 |
aletheia: No stop that. that is how some of u were saying hausa is not indigenous to abuja it is only fulani that can't lay claim to jos |
Re: Hausa-Fulanis Are Indigenes Of Jos– Passali by aletheia(m): 6:31pm On Sep 25, 2011 |
^Hausa are not indigenous to Abuja too. Why try to steal the Gbagyis' heritage? Edited to add: In my post above, the 1994 Fiberesima Commission which identified the true indigenes of Jos as Afizere, Anaguta and Berom is alluded to. Now let me also include quotes from the Justice Niki Tobi report as well: It is the feeling of the Commission that as long as the Elders do not tell the Youth the true story of ownership, half truths as contained in Exhibit 339 will continue to 3.54 The claim of ownership of something is a very serious matter which requires solid, precise, and unequivocal convincing evidence. It is not like the Englishman finding 3.55 In this matter history, and very authentic history, has given us a consistent flowing story of how the three tribes of Afizere, Anaguta and Birom own Jos. We accept the evidence of the three tribes and other tribes that supported their evidence. We reject the evidence that the Hausas and the Fulanis or any other tribe for that matter founded Jos and therefore own Jos. 3.56 The story of ownership of Jos as told by the protagonists of Hausa-Fulani ownership of the former tin city, is like the literature story of Alice in the Wonderland. |
Re: Hausa-Fulanis Are Indigenes Of Jos– Passali by aljharem3: 6:34pm On Sep 25, 2011 |
aletheia: Just because there not a lot of hausa in abuja does not mean they are not indigenous to the place. |
Re: Hausa-Fulanis Are Indigenes Of Jos– Passali by JosBoy4Lif(m): 6:44pm On Sep 25, 2011 |
Indigene this Indigene that. Why can;t we all just be indigenous of Nigeria? I have said it before one thing Nigeria needs to do away with is this Indigene certificate bullshit. |
Re: Hausa-Fulanis Are Indigenes Of Jos– Passali by Relax101(m): 6:49pm On Sep 25, 2011 |
alj_harem: You mean Babangida moved Yoruba people to Kogi. Chei nothing wey we no go here for NL. You are an Inbred liar. Your lie dey resemble truth for people wey no know you well. |
Re: Hausa-Fulanis Are Indigenes Of Jos– Passali by naijaking1: 6:55pm On Sep 25, 2011 |
JosBoy4Lif: How do I say it you? The whole idea of marginalizing non-indigens was an attempt to limit rapidly spreading Igbos covering the whole Nigerian landscape like proteus before and after the civil war. The idea was of course designed and implemented by the Hausa/Fulani intelligensia. "Jos is simply coming back to bite them on their butts" While the Igbos elected the first Hausaman to be mayor of Enugu, you really can never imagine an Igbo being elected or even allowed to run a significant office in say Kano, Kaduna, or even Lagos with significant Igbo populations. Same goes for Yoruba in Port Harcourt, etc. |
Re: Hausa-Fulanis Are Indigenes Of Jos– Passali by Relax101(m): 6:59pm On Sep 25, 2011 |
naijaking1: I think the first mayor is a Fulani man. |
Re: Hausa-Fulanis Are Indigenes Of Jos– Passali by naijaking1: 7:02pm On Sep 25, 2011 |
^^^ Thanks for the correction. |
Re: Hausa-Fulanis Are Indigenes Of Jos– Passali by aletheia(m): 7:03pm On Sep 25, 2011 |
@alj_harem: Please refer to my earlier post. I edited it to add quotes from Justice Niki Tobi on the status of Hausa-Fulani in Jos. |
Re: Hausa-Fulanis Are Indigenes Of Jos– Passali by nduchucks: 7:04pm On Sep 25, 2011 |
ikeyman00: Your comments are appreciated. Please note that it is impossible to establish Sharia Court of Appeals as prescribed in the constitution, in mosque premises as you are proposing. Your proposal is actually laughable. I'd recommend that you review the constitution here ===> http://www.nigeria-law.org/ConstitutionOfTheFederalRepublicOfNigeria.htm. After doing that, you should be able to make a sensible and educated objection. For now your idea smacks of religious bigotry. olodo |
Re: Hausa-Fulanis Are Indigenes Of Jos– Passali by aljharem3: 7:06pm On Sep 25, 2011 |
Relax101: can u please shut up. Haba. Am i talking to ideeiots on nairaland or what there was nothing like kogi before and okun people were part of kwara until babangida cut old kwara and form a new geographical space called kogi by also adding okun geographical space from kwara to the new form kogi. GoooHHHsssss!!!!! why are u so stu.pid SMH |
Re: Hausa-Fulanis Are Indigenes Of Jos– Passali by aljharem3: 7:10pm On Sep 25, 2011 |
aletheia: thanks jut saw it to be honest, Jos is just a city in Plateau state so i don't see why all the fight is all about. if the beroms what jos so bad, then they can have it. No problem so long as they do not claim ownership to the whole Plateau state, then it is all right |
Re: Hausa-Fulanis Are Indigenes Of Jos– Passali by naijaking1: 7:11pm On Sep 25, 2011 |
ndu_chucks: Mallam, it looks like you have just learnt a new vocabulary BTW, the Nigerian constitution has been amended time after time to reflect the ideologies of the people in power(mostly Hausa/Fulani military boys). Can we go back to post independence constitution, you'll see the difference. |
Re: Hausa-Fulanis Are Indigenes Of Jos– Passali by jamace(m): 7:15pm On Sep 25, 2011 |
Who own papa's (JOS) land? Anaraguta/Afizere/Berom own papa's land. No other tribes/ethnic nationality does. Q.E.D |
Re: Hausa-Fulanis Are Indigenes Of Jos– Passali by JosBoy4Lif(m): 7:17pm On Sep 25, 2011 |
naijaking1: How do you say it to me? I am not really interested in how the whole notion of indigine status came to be. All I know is that it has polarized Nigeria into a political farce. Nigeria is a one-party system that practices rotational leadership. This system is rooted in this indigine bullcrap. You are right it has come to bight them in the butt, but it is causing some unnecessary bloodshed. I weep for Plateau |
Re: Hausa-Fulanis Are Indigenes Of Jos– Passali by aljharem3: 7:18pm On Sep 25, 2011 |
jamace: so long as it is recognised as jos is just a city and not a the whole plateau I do not see why hausa people are fight over a city |
Re: Hausa-Fulanis Are Indigenes Of Jos– Passali by nduchucks: 7:20pm On Sep 25, 2011 |
naijaking1: One of the critical success factors of young democracies is the ability to work within the rule of law to effectuate changes. How do you expect to bypass our constitutional process and go back to a post independence constitution? The constitution is being amended as we speak - you and your interest groups are well advised to leave the bush and archaic methods, and lobby your elected representatives for the changes you desire. olodo |
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