wonlasewonimi:


Seriously, there's nothing like permanent roles. I was in a contract for over 3 years and they did reorg 3x during the same period. All the permies were always scared of losing their jobs cos they have been in the org for eons, they don't even have any CVs talkless of knowing how to apply for a role. With my Contractor mentality, everyday is my last day. I make conscious effort to look at job boards everyday. You might as well make your money in bulk than getting it piecemeal.



Trust me, I follow job trends like crazy. It's very risky for a contractor not to. Let's see what happen after summer when all the budget holders are back from holidays.

But lots of contractors are now ending up in perm roles these days, very experienced folks showing the reality of the times we are in.

wonlasewonimi:


Let's see what happen after summer when all the budget holders are back from holidays.

People need not panic as this is exactly what’s happening.

Goke7:


But lots of contractors are now ending up in perm roles these days, very experienced folks showing the reality of the times we are in.

Yeah that's correct but they can be laid off as well anytime. If by miracle, they abolish IR35, contractor market will start booming. People can't be bothered to look for contract roles anymore. You see, most big orgs prefer contractors to perm cos they are not part of their headcount. Their contracts can also be terminated within a month without going through the arduous process of redundancy, no need to pay them salaries, benefits, employers tax and pension, they don't call in sick, and the cost to hire a contractor is determined from the outset.

giselle237:
You are contradicting yourself. If noone’s life’s worth is from a British passport as you say, why then are you saying they need to wait 6 years to get this same passport?
Why can’t they forfeit the passport since it’s not important?
Anyone holding on for 6 years for something definitely VALUES that thing and knows that it’s a ‘life’s worth’
Anyone paying so much into this system and awaiting their 6 year run definitely knows it’s worth something.

I like this bigmanism going on on this forum.
Everyone is now above the same British people they came to live with.
Nobody asked the BEST HEADS to leave Nigeria, you all, we all left of our own choosing because the country you come from was and continues to derail.

No one called you, you applied and sought the job if you are on skilled work visa.
No one called you, you applied and sought after the university for studies if you are on a student visa.
You guys need a wake up call because you are now almost deceiving yourselves talking about the passport is optional bother.
Optional indeed.
Or maybe I just do not understand English language.

You usually sound very aggressive, relax mate. Nobody is fighting you Lol

wonlasewonimi:



Trust me, I follow job trends like crazy. It's very risky for a contractor not to. Let's see what happen after summer when all the budget holders are back from holidays.

Brah, this downtrend has been happening since at least late last year, and I'm saying this as someone who was juggling 3 contracts in December, and 2 until literally the end of June.

This article was from January this year. The screenshot below was from 2 weeks ago.

The announcement from Microsoft chief executive, Satya Nadella, about the company’s need to cut 10,000 jobs is indicative of an industry set on realigning costs as the economic slowdown worsens. Over the last few weeks, Salesforce announced a 10% reduction in its workforce, Meta is reducing its workforce by 13% while Amazon said it would be cutting 18,000 jobs.

In a Securities and Exchange Commission filing, the Microsoft CEO and chairman said: “We’re living through times of significant change. When I think about this moment in time, the start of 2023, it’s showtime - for our industry and for Microsoft. As a company, our success must be aligned to the world’s success. That means every one of us and every team across the company must raise the bar and perform better than the competition to deliver meaningful innovation that customers, communities, and countries can truly benefit from. If we deliver on this, we will emerge stronger and thrive long into the future; it’s as simple as that.”

Industry research conducted over the last few months has shown a big decline in IT spending. Forrester’s European Tech Market Forecast, 2022 to 2027 report, for instance, highlights recession looming across Europe. The economies of Germany, Italy and Sweden are expected to see real gross domestic product (GDP) declines in 2023 as their economies move into recession. Referencing the Bank of England’s predictions, Forrester said the UK economy was likely to be in recession throughout 2023 and for the first half of 2024. According to Forrester, UK GDP is only likely to recover gradually.

Tommaso Aquilante, associate director of economic research at Dun and Bradstreet, said: “Financial conditions are already tight and wage growth, though increasing, remains slower than inflation, giving the Bank of England some reassurance on the risk of a wage-price spiral dynamic in the UK economy. The overall economic outlook remains negative, and it is imperative for companies to maintain a holistic view of their supply chain, financial pipeline, partners and customer needs to navigate the current challenges effectively.”

What I'm saying is that the economy is tanking and organisations are cutting costs like crazy.

Like you said sha, let's see what happens after Summer.

nihilistjnr:


Yes, there's a huge storm coming. And it's an employer's market right now with cost of living crisis AND interest rate hikes wreaking havoc on people's bank balance.

There's fewer jobs, with lower rates, certainly in my field. I've actually started looking further afield for work...particularly in the middle east.

Been hearing good stuff about the middle east.. Particularly in Healthcare

Are there Lots of tech jobs too?

hustla:



Been hearing good stuff about the middle east.. Particularly in Healthcare

Are there Lots of tech jobs too?

A guy I know recently left his role as a sales manager for a Ferrari dealership in Dubai to open a tech recruitment agency out there. If he's walking away from that kind of commission, then maybe the outlook is good.

I'm still doing my research though, but I'm reluctant to work away from my family for extended periods. Who knows what the future holds though?

jedisco:


I think thats an issue here. For some folks, their sense of worth is tied to having the passport. Unfortunately, it's not the case for everyone. Over recent years, a number of our best heads have moved to the UK. All these folks cannot be pummelled into the bottom rung as in times past. Most recent legal migrants into the UK have put in more than is due and its up to them demand the full gamut of experience for their moneys worth.





How about your post depicting Nigerian health workers as quacks?

What if I tell you a number of them can't wait for the 6 years to come before they retrieve their well earned passport and head off while having their UK investments incl properties yield? They dont even pay IHS, some are offered a good sum to remain and may have their visa fees paid for.

Some who's life worth stems from having a British passport would not stomach 'immigrants' who see same passport as an optional bother.

Can you provide the post where I supposedly said this?

Your comment is more emotional than reasonable or factual. "Optional bother"....ok 😂
But I understand your frustration as one of the brightest and best sent by Nigeria to rescue the UK.

nihilistjnr:


Brah, this downtrend has been happening since at least late last year, and I'm saying this as someone who was juggling 3 contracts in December, and 2 until literally the end of June.

This article was from January this year. The screenshot below was from 2 weeks ago.


What I'm saying is that the economy is tanking and organisations are cutting costs like crazy.

Like you said sha, let's see what happens after Summer.

See you I can't say I didnt do it too. But, when it started affecting my health I had to drop off.

I understand what you meant with the economy tanking. We will be fine!

kwakudtraveller:

You usually sound very aggressive, relax mate. Nobody is fighting you Lol

Off point mate.
Free advice: Don’t call no black person aggressive.

Goke7:


Contract jobs are becoming a risk now, had a friend who went out of contract and had to resort to doing care support job for now to fend for his family. An AML expert o.

Agreed, it's very competitive. The consulting industry has also been impacted as more clients are seeking specialist skills to justify the spend.

Solumtoya:


People use it but it's illegal to use private scooters on public roads but most Police Officers don't care about seizing them or prosecuting offenders but they're illegal and I've seen them seized and destroyed.

Interestingly how this could av been a good alternative for green transport and all or maybe they are yet to find a way to tax and licence them.

nihilistjnr:


I think Contracting is going back to what it used to be on all honesty.

COVID warped the market. Prior to 2020 fully remote contracts were not the norm, except for mostly off-shore developer or tech support gigs.

Covid opened the door for a lot of fully remote work, and niggas started running multiple engagements, their tastes changed and their bills went up.

Then hybrid became a thing. The war in Ukraine broke out. Cost of living and energy crises exploded. Inflation skyrocketed.BoE Interest rates went from near zero percent in 2021 to 5% today. And now noggas are desperately latching on the few remote contracts to keep spinning to keep the lights on.

Oboy.

Below is a screenshot I took of a remote contract job listing that I found this morning on LinkedIn. Note the numbers. Note the breakdown. Note the qualifications. According to LinkedIn, I would be a top applicant for the role, but the top end rate is at least 30% less than the day rates a similar role would have attracted just 4 months ago.

I'm not trying to be a prophet of doom, but to let people know what the new normal might look like very soon.

Good analysis 👍

I was chatting to an employment lawyer a couple months back and their prediction was that due to rising interest rates and other factors, it would fully swing from an employee's to an employer's market by the end of the year. It is well...

I still marvel how the property market has completely turned. This time last year vendors were doing best and finals everywhere. Now similar properties are being reduced and/or sitting on the market for months, when they would have sold in under 2 weeks last year.

wonlasewonimi:


Seriously, there's nothing like permanent roles. I was in a contract for over 3 years and they did reorg 3x during the same period. All the permies were always scared of losing their jobs cos they have been in the org for eons, they don't even have any CVs talkless of knowing how to apply for a role. With my Contractor mentality, everyday is my last day. I make conscious effort to look at job boards everyday. You might as well make your money in bulk than getting it piecemeal.



Trust me, I follow job trends like crazy. It's very risky for a contractor not to. Let's see what happen after summer when all the budget holders are back from holidays.

Just 3 months on from summer, it'll be the Christmas holidays when most companies are either on an end of year budget freeze or the budget holders are off on holiday again lol

I think Q1 might be a better time? depending on the industry

Zahra29:


Can you provide the post where I supposedly said this?

Your comment is more emotional than reasonable or factual. "Optional bother"....ok 😂
But I understand your frustration as one of the brightest and best sent by Nigeria to rescue the UK.

Abeg na

🤣😹

nihilistjnr:


A guy I know recently left his role as a sales manager for a Ferrari dealership in Dubai to open a tech recruitment agency out there. If he's walking away from that kind of commission, then maybe the outlook is good.

I'm still doing my research though, but I'm reluctant to work away from my family for extended periods. Who knows what the future holds though?

Hmmmm

Issorai

LionInZion:


I think this has been in effect for a while now, perhaps some new adjustments to it made them include it in this new update.

Tbh, I support this. People should at least be ready to complete their studies if they came in on a student Visa. I heard some were even abandoning their studies and switching from the first few days or weeks after arriving, thereby subjecting many universities to profit loss.

You amaze me 😒

LionInZion:


I think this has been in effect for a while now, perhaps some new adjustments to it made them include it in this new update.

Tbh, I support this. People should at least be ready to complete their studies if they came in on a student Visa. I heard some were even abandoning their studies and switching from the first few days or weeks after arriving, thereby subjecting many universities to profit loss.

Any reasonable person should support this 100%

Omoooh!

Every time I try catching up, before blinking, pages have rolled by 🤣🤣

giselle237:
Off point mate.
Free advice: Don’t call no black person aggressive.

As a white man that I am right? 😂

.

nihilistjnr:


That was last year brah. I'm currently on a fully remote contract working 4 days a week when the job listing stated hybrid working, 2 days in the office, 5 days a week,

I was lucky to get this contract before the latest down turn, and was juggling it with some other engagements.

Try doing it now.

This jobsite you speak of, is it like a freelance hub for extra jobs?

Do you have a link or know where one can visit to apply for these jobs?

nihilistjnr:


That was last year brah. I'm currently on a fully remote contract working 4 days a week when the job listing stated hybrid working, 2 days in the office, 5 days a week,

I was lucky to get this contract before the latest down turn, and was juggling it with some other engagements.

Try doing it now.

My house mate got one AWS Engineer role 2 months ago, fully remote. Goes to the office only when it's time to hang out and drink on Fridays (4 day work week)

Another one got AWS Devops, fully remote. Only went to the office for onboarding and to collect laptop

Guess it's luck

Please does the new changes on switching visa affect application submitted before 17th of July?

samsmokey:
Who is on Octopus and willing to give me a referral code?

I can do

what other document do you send along to Dvla ?

Solumtoya:


You don't need share code if you send your BRP. Yes, you can send your BRP, I did.

kwakudtraveller:
As a white man that I am right? 😂

Dey disguise dey go.
I know your type and I know what you are trying to do. Your fake laughs here and there wey no reach your belle do not fool me. If I remember to reply you Mr childish, you’ll find long lasting rest.

samsmokey:
Who is on Octopus and willing to give me a referral code?

I can, if you haven't gotten from someone else.


Use this link to sign up to Octopus - https://share.octopus.energy/wise-robin-373

samsmokey:

How much you go give me let’s do business?

How much ke Is Octopus sharing money?

I tot we are supposed to get £50 worth of credit each on our accounts

Be like London is saturated. Where are all the jobs guys ?

lavida001:
Be like London is saturated. Where are all the jobs guys ?

Make I find trouble this early mo mo.

Immigrants have taken all the jobs.

Runs and hides

deept:


Make I find trouble this early mo mo.

Immigrants have taken all the jobs.

Runs and hides