Zahra29:


I think most feel that the UK is less racist than France, some have family members here and there's also the language barrier in France.

But it's increasingly very difficult to get under table work here with the new immigration rules that stipulate fines of over £20k to
employers and landlords found to be harbouring illegal migrants.

The only businesses willing to take that risk imo are criminal enterprises or slave masters that take full advantage of people's desperation and pay them peanuts with zero rights.
Businesses such as restaurants, car washes and others get raided on the regular by the home office via tip-offs etc

Yes, there's that perception about France which is ironic, because the French were actually the first oyibo country to not only preach, but also actually attempt to practise so-called Liberte, Egalite and Fraternite. France is definitely not more racist in any way; the major problem France has is because it is such a heavily regulated place, it is not very easy for people to get ahead in life when you are disadvantaged as opposed to the more lightly regulated Anglo countries like the UK and the US, which of course tends to lead to relatively higher numbers of immigrants at the lower end of the socio-economic scale.

missjekyll:
How luxurious is your life if you get 50 pounds per week for accommodation, food and toiletries?

If you are pregnant you get an extra 5 pounds per week.

I dont understand why people say their lives are luxurious, it is not

Thank you. It really beggars belief.

Let's not forget that asylum accommodation tends to be of lower quality and in cheaper areas - very very unlikely to be London or even south east England. Asylum seekers cannot choose where they are put up and they can be moved by the home office at any time to a new part of the country where they don't know anyone. Even if the children have to change schools, you're on your own.

Many times it's shared accommodation such as hostels or a bed and breakfast. Many even have to share rooms with strangers. And this luxury is only while their application is being considered; as soon as it's decided on - accepted or refused - the claimants have to leave the asylum accommodation.

Cyberknight:


Yes, there's that perception about France which is ironic, because the French were actually the first oyibo country to not only preach, but also actually attempt to practise so-called Liberte, Egalite and Fraternite. France is definitely not more racist in any way; the major problem France has is because it is such a heavily regulated place, it is not very easy for people to get ahead in life when you are disadvantaged as opposed to the more lightly regulated Anglo countries like the UK and the US, which of course tends to lead to relatively higher numbers of immigrants at the lower end of the socio-economic scale.

Agreed, even legal immigrants struggle in places like France and Belgium and many are forced into the black market to survive.

UK and US are very different though. I think the US is one of the only places where an illegal immigrant can "thrive". They even have sanctuary states where they have the right to drive, go to school etc, working under the table is normalised to an extent and there are large communities e.g. Hispanics that provide safe havens

The UK is very regulated now - you have to provide identity and residency documents for pretty much everything. The only area that is easy for an illegal immigrant is enrolling their children into school because the government/courts have ruled that children should not be prevented from attending school, regardless of their immigration status.

If anyone can just turn up and claim asylum,then the asylum system is working just as it should. Its up to the courts to decide whether they have a right to asylum. We know that 75% of our asylum seekers do have a good case and are granted asylum.

The reasons for choosing the UK are immaterial to be honest. Those 2 countries you mentioned take in even more than we do. so many choose to stay in mainland Europe. The few who decide to make the perilous journey to our shores must feel strongly connected to the UK.
I doubt it's the 7 pounds and Bibby Stockholm aka plague city that's the main motive.

Cyberknight:


I don't think it's foolish. It might not be working as a policy, but its aim is to serve as a deterrent of sorts. If anyone can turn up and claim asylum then start to work while their claims are heard, that becomes a draw.

Of course this is allowed in the US and France, among others, which are major recipients of asylum seekers. It's interesting that so many asylum seekers pass through France and come to the UK instead - most likely because they feel that its easier to get under-the-table work in the UK than actual proper employment in France with its heavily regulated labour market (is it?).

Ahem ....cough cough that egalite whatever led them to try to stamp out local cultures in their overseas colonies inorder to form the population into "Frenchmen" . It didnt work.
They should have studied the Roman Empire. Rome governed with a light touch however Empires have an expiry date and even they eventually fell.

Very interesting discussions here today.

Cyberknight:


Yes, there's that perception about France which is ironic, because the French were actually the first oyibo country to not only preach, but also actually attempt to practise so-called Liberte, Egalite and Fraternite. France is definitely not more racist in any way; the major problem France has is because it is such a heavily regulated place, it is not very easy for people to get ahead in life when you are disadvantaged as opposed to the more lightly regulated Anglo countries like the UK and the US, which of course tends to lead to relatively higher numbers of immigrants at the lower end of the socio-economic scale.

missjekyll:
If anyone can just turn up and claim asylum,then the asylum system is working just as it should. Its up to the courts to decide whether they have a right to asylum. We know that 75% of our asylum seekers do have a good case and are granted asylum.

The reasons for choosing the UK are immaterial to be honest. Those 2 countries you mentioned take in even more than we do. so many choose to stay in mainland Europe. The few who decide to make the perilous journey to our shores must feel strongly connected to the UK.
I doubt it's the 7 pounds and Bibby Stockholm aka plague city that's the main motive.

Agreed. So those who are genuine claimants displaced by conflict with nowhere else to turn should have no problem enduring while their claims are determined.

missjekyll:
I wonder whether that has been the case in canada and the USA where they are allowed to work.

The cruelty is mindbending. I am a refugee ,you keep me in a hotel room sharing with 3 other people i dont know on 7 pounds/day. I can't go outside without being harassed by people who hate me
It speaks to the resilience of the human spirit that there are not more suicides than there are.

What would Jesus do if he met an asylum seeker,I wonder? Would he treat them the same way?

A lot of this resentment stems from public opinion that asylum seekers are chancers who are living it large on the state with free accommodation and benefits and doing nothing but going shopping and popping out babies.

And who can blame them if this is the narrative being put out there on Facebook and the like.

Exactly

Zahra29:


A lot of this resentment stems from public opinion that asylum seekers are chancers who are living it large on the state with free accommodation and benefits and doing nothing but going shopping and popping out babies.

And who can blame them if this is the narrative being put out there on Facebook and the like.

missjekyll:
Ahem ....cough cough that egalite whatever led them to try to stamp out local cultures in their overseas colonies inorder to form the population into "Frenchmen" . It didnt work.
They should have studied the Roman Empire. Rome governed with a light touch however Empires have an expiry date and even they eventually fell.

Very interesting discussions here today.

Exactly.

The 18th and 19th centuries weren't known for political correctness, so diversity wasn't a watchword or a thing back then. They tried to bring about an (admittedly utopian) situation where everyone would be "one", irrespective of skin colour. We know that's not possible.

But the point I was making is that the French are not more racist than the British or anyone else, and I substantiated that point by showing that, however misguided or quixotic it may have been, their French government came up with an official policy of equality more than 2 centuries ago, and tried it.

Zahra29:


A lot of this resentment stems from public opinion that asylum seekers are chancers who are living it large on the state with free accommodation and benefits and doing nothing but going shopping and popping out babies.

And who can blame them if this is the narrative being put out there on Facebook and the like.

"Politics is the art of making fool of all the people, that are not fools, all the time and making them believe that they are not being made fool of."

Lexusgs430:


Absolutely....... Would be disadvantageous, if property is in negative equity.........😂

Please boss, have you got any reliable cargo guys that can ship household appliances like sofa bed fridge etc from uk to naija. The said items are flagship item but selling here in uk ppl were calling ridiculous amount. And the said item were bought new, used for only 4months.

eniola1010:



Please boss, have you got any reliable cargo guys that can ship household appliances like sofa bed fridge etc from uk to naija. The said items are flagship item but selling here in uk ppl were calling ridiculous amount. And the said item were bought new, used for only 4months.

Unfortunately, once an item is second hand....... Value just plummets ........

Have you weighed cost of shipping + logistics + clearance + total loss of items (on the high seas) etc etc

It might be time to cut your losses and sojunu.......🤑😂😁

NB: My shipper is located in Plumstead,......

Zahra29:


Thank you. It really beggars belief.

Let's not forget that asylum accommodation tends to be of lower quality and in cheaper areas - very very unlikely to be London or even south east England. Asylum seekers cannot choose where they are put up and they can be moved by the home office at any time to a new part of the country where they don't know anyone. Even if the children have to change schools, you're on your own.

Many times it's shared accommodation such as hostels or a bed and breakfast. Many even have to share rooms with strangers. And this luxury is only while their application is being considered; as soon as it's decided on - accepted or refused - the claimants have to leave the asylum accommodation.

It was decades ago that ppl got more lush accomodations especially those with large families.

For under the table work I think those who have Asian families in the UK can probably still get good jobs that pay is decent. If a good number of their family members own their own businesses then that's easier for them not to be detected. My opinion though

eniola1010:



Please boss, have you got any reliable cargo guys that can ship household appliances like sofa bed fridge etc from uk to naija. The said items are flagship item but selling here in uk ppl were calling ridiculous amount. And the said item were bought new, used for only 4months.

Hi where are you located as im interested in getting sofa and the time dfs is qouting is not nice, unfortunately i just paid 1800 for bed and matteress from ikea that took me 6hrs to assemble

Wonders shall never end, in this our youkay........ 🤣😂

Man wins the lottery, spends all the money (within weeks), is now begging to go back on benefits (to collect money from all your taxes)........ 🤑💰😂


https://www.joe.co.uk/news/national-lottery-winner-wants-to-go-back-on-benefits-after-spending-80k-winnings-in-weeks-425620

Lexusgs430:



Unfortunately, once an item is second hand....... Value just plummets ........

Have you weighed cost of shipping + logistics + clearance + total loss of items (on the high seas) etc etc

It might be time to cut your losses and sojunu.......🤑😂😁

NB: My shipper is located in Plumstead,......

Hello my oga Lexus

Please any idea how much it costs to send a phone and a laptop to Naija? Thanks

LionInZion:


Hello my oga Lexus

Please any idea how much it costs to send a phone and a laptop to Naija? Thanks

Would be about £50..... But items are usually weighed.....

Hi Elders
@Lexus pls , If I want to pick up family at Heathrow airport, will I park in short stay car park or longstay car park.

I saw information on heathrow that explain that 30min is free for Long stay car park and no free for short stay car park
N:B I am driving into terminal 4

Thank you

Efftyy:
Hi Elders
@Lexus pls , If I want to pick up family at Heathrow airport, will I park in short stay car park or longstay car park.

I saw information on heathrow that explain that 30min is free for Long stay car park and no free for short stay car park
N:B I am driving into terminal 4

Thank you

Don't park until they inform you that, they have cleared immigration and collecting their luggages......

You want short stay, the carpark within the terminals building.,......

NB: Loads of free parking spaces, as your approach the terminal (sort of opposite Hatton cross station)......

Use this to monitor flight status

https://www.heathrow.com/arrivals

Lexusgs430:


Don't park until they inform you that, they have cleared immigration and collecting their luggages......

You want short stay, the carpark within the terminals building.,......

NB: Loads of free parking spaces, as your approach the terminal (sort of opposite Hatton cross station)......

Use this to monitor flight status

https://www.heathrow.com/arrivals

Thank you for
your reply .
But is it advisable to go for the free car park when there is loads to pickup?

Efftyy:



Thank you for
your reply .
But is it advisable to go for the free car park when there is loads to pickup?

So you want to go park at long stay, because of free 30 minutes on offer .........

Then wait for the transfer bus to transport you to the terminal, then wait for the transfer bus to move you and your family, back to the car park, which would eventually cost you more money and time .........

Awoof, go run your belle ..........😂😁😜

Did you read this . .... Or nah only the free parking, enter your 👀👀👀......😂😜

Lexusgs430:
Wonders shall never end, in this our youkay........ 🤣😂

Man wins the lottery, spends all the money (within weeks), is now begging to go back on benefits (to collect money from all your taxes)........ 🤑💰😂


https://www.joe.co.uk/news/national-lottery-winner-wants-to-go-back-on-benefits-after-spending-80k-winnings-in-weeks-425620

God when ?

Zahra29:


Agreed, even legal immigrants struggle in places like France and Belgium and many are forced into the black market to survive.

UK and US are very different though. I think the US is one of the only places where an illegal immigrant can "thrive". They even have sanctuary states where they have the right to drive, go to school etc, working under the table is normalised to an extent and there are large communities e.g. Hispanics that provide safe havens

The UK is very regulated now - you have to provide identity and residency documents for pretty much everything. The only area that is easy for an illegal immigrant is enrolling their children into school because the government/courts have ruled that children should not be prevented from attending school, regardless of their immigration status.

Yep. In the US you can open a business buy property just pay your taxes.
Obviously there are some things you can't do but you can thrive.

Cyberknight:


Agreed. So those who are genuine claimants displaced by conflict with nowhere else to turn should have no problem enduring while their claims are determined.

Yep

Lexusgs430:
Wonders shall never end, in this our youkay........ 🤣😂

Man wins the lottery, spends all the money (within weeks), is now begging to go back on benefits (to collect money from all your taxes)........ 🤑💰😂


https://www.joe.co.uk/news/national-lottery-winner-wants-to-go-back-on-benefits-after-spending-80k-winnings-in-weeks-425620

So this site regurgitated a story from 2017?

Taal17:


So this site regurgitated a story from 2017?

It's not about the year though.........😁

Our people that are wondering why they can't claim public funds + those that are allowed....... And seem to abuse the privilege .........🤑😜

I have thoroughly enjoyed the engagement so far....... But because you don't qualify for PF today, does not mean you would not qualify tomorrow......... Your time would come too ........😂

wallg123:

Call trainline. They might tell you how your friend can pick the train ticket at the airport

Your friend can go to the ticket office or use Nigeria bank card to pickup.
They only need you to insert and bank card for proof of identification/collection.

Happy Sunday, below is my situation, I got a job offer(application /interview process was faster than anticipated) and I initially told them I will be resuming next week but my issue is, have already applied for my skilled worker dependant visa but not out yet and I supposed to submit it with my documentation.

I can't resume the work with my student visa hence why I applied already to switch.

My question is: can I write the company to change my resumption date?
Or what's your advice?

cbn4main:
Elders in the house,
I don tire to do these civil service interviews. So far more than 6 done ( I got on 2 reserve lists for EO and HEO roles).

What exactly do they really want? How can I secure an offer? What should I do differently?

I speak quite well and confidently during interviews. I structure my answers to the behavioural and strength questions quite well.

I will appreciate any word of advice 🙏

done only 6? you never reach 20 naa

The ultimate goal is to get that one Yes..Do not be weary. you are in a better position as against someone who has been applying and not getting interviews.

You had be surprised if people here opened up on how many interviews they did before they got an offer. I stopped counting at 40 plus.

Keep pushing , you are almost there.

lightofjoy:
Happy Sunday, below is my situation, I got a job offer(application /interview process was faster than anticipated) and I initially told them I will be resuming next week but my issue is, have already applied for my skilled worker dependant visa but not out yet and I supposed to submit it with my documentation.

I can't resume the work with my student visa hence why I applied already to switch.

My question is: can I write the company to change my resumption date?
Or what's your advice?

Be upfront and honest...... Clearly explain your predicament + add small wash .......😂😜

Thanks bros

Lexusgs430:


Be upfront and honest...... Clearly explain your predicament + add small wash .......😂😜

Hello my people,
please I need an urgent help, I filled application for skilled worker dependant visa with my children but they send me a mail for one of the children that they can't decide her application because they are yet to take a decision on mine and that they have sent me a mail requesting for additional documents.

Now my issue is that I didn't receive any message requesting additional documents.
Please what can I do?