Zahra29:


The reality is that every desirable country has somewhat difficult immigration policies, otherwise they would be overwhelmed by hundreds of thousands (or even millions) trying to come in from poorer countries. America, Canada, Australia - even with their huge land masses - how easy is it to obtain a Canadian student visa now? Or a green card via any route other than marriage and family resettlement? Australia is having discussions to tighten their student visa route, their minister claiming that many are using it as a pseudo work visa. How long does it take to even get a German student visa interview appointment from Nigeria?
It's a global issue because resources are finite - if they have uncontrolled immigration then houses, schools, doctors etc come under significant pressure.
We've already seen posts here about people complaining about long NHS waits, lack of rental homes/prohibitive rents, not being able to get into the preferred school for their children etc etc - so it's not a black and white issue

Its not difficult to get Uk visa as long as you are ready to pay for it, its difficult to get America. Germany or Australia because they actually scrutinized and interview applicants so as to weed-out non-genuine ones. The UK gives out visa to whoever can afford to pay then complain later after they got in.

NHS is just an excuse, people coming in are paying duoble for NHS, if you go private you will get treated almost instantly

Elders in the house, please has anyone done Team meeting for ID documents verification Access NI check? I have a meeting this friday, I want to know what to expect. Thanks

justwise:


So in 5yrs route one will pay £13,500 in Immigration Health surbcharge and those on 10yrs will pay £27,000? This is just for s single person.

Why would anyone pay this much to get into the UK legally when you can pay people smugglers far less than that and get in and you will not be deported to Rwanda.

This is madness!!!

hustla:



Each one of these countries have policies set in stone and most times, they even relax these rules for the better, but UK own is to b*tch about every single thing. Canada has recently introduced new routes and a lot more people get student visas now (I know cos i write SOPs for a couple of students heading to Canada). Australia has changed laws for their post study and actually increased. AU and Canada recently changed rules to allow students to work more hours probably due to the inflation and or effects of covid

Apart from post study and dependent stuff which didn't even last up to 3 yrs, UK has not introduced any reasonable rules to help students. Even sponsorship and war and battle (hence the reason why skilled people take up care worker jobs)

All they do is tighten and tighten the noose and then collect some more money , then moan and complain and complain

I no blame them sha, na make person do another japa inside japa because this japa isn't 'japaing'

If/when you move to one of the countries you listed, I'm pretty sure you will have similar immigration related complaints.

Especially if Trump gets back in, we all know how he and many in his party feel about immigration from s*** hole countries/ coloured folk.

justwise:


Its not difficult to get Uk visa as long as you are ready to pay for it, its difficult to get America. Germany or Australia because they actually scrutinized and interview applicants so as to weed-out non-genuine ones. The UK gives out visa to whoever can afford to pay then complain later after they got in.

NHS is just an excuse, people coming in are paying duoble for NHS, if you go private you will get treated almost instantly

If it's such a soft touch then why do some complain if the UK decides to toughen up its rules and start weeding out non genuine applicants? Surely that should be a good thing?

A fair number have IHS exemptions.

dentalux:


Ok. I sent them a mail yesterday buy they are behaving like they did not see it. But I know they saw it because if it was before they would have called me for one shift to cover in a place or another. I gave them till Thursday next week.

Cool. In the meantime, call ACAS

Zahra29:


If it's such a soft touch then why do some complain if the UK decides to toughen up its rules and start weeding out non genuine applicants? Surely that should be a good thing?

A fair number have IHS exemptions.

I did not say that the UK is a soft touch, i said they gave visa to whoever that can afford to pay. That is not being soft touch. Soft touch is uncontrollable illegal immigration, they can't stop people coming in through the English channel or lorries. They can't even deport those who came in illegally.

The whole immigration policies are targeting those coming in legally including the so called bright and intelligent ones.

A single person paying £27.000 in 5yrs even if that individual did not use the NHS is nothing short of scam.

Madam, go to Florida, California and Vegas to go see how many British people are there that already love it there and no want come back.

Zahra29:


If/when you move to one of the countries you listed, I'm pretty sure you will have similar immigration related complaints.

Especially if Trump gets back in, we all know how he and many in his party feel about immigration from s*** hole countries/ coloured folk.

The £100 jumped out at me so well ooo.🥹

I don even price am to £35 but Baba say no say standard rate na £45 and him don reduce am already.

Make una no start dey bill is for NL ooo. Other things don collect our money finish for this UK 😂

Lexusgs430:



£100.00 extra for professionalism service, is not too much nah. ........ 🤣😂😍


We should start charging for advice we render on NL........ People are getting used to free bonanza............ 😜🤣

Na wah ooo.

I've queried my instructor on why I need 10hours when I'm already driving. Make we start first make he for assess my proficiency.

He didn't discuss additional fee for using car for the test though. Will check with him.

All the best!

hayesconcept:
I’m in the same situation. Na 6hours i booked tho. £35 per hour using instructor car. And additional £100 on test date for using the instructor car and special insurance. Altogether £300 don go into vanishing.

Please someone should help with a good site where I can buy used car and also a good car model from experience. Thank you

sugarkemi:
Please someone should help with a good site where I can buy used car and also a good car model from experience. Thank you

Autotrader.

As for car model, depends on what you want, really.

Solumtoya:


Autotrader.

As for car model, depends on what you want, really.

Thank you.I want something economical and reliable like Toyota 🤣

Zahra29:


If/when you move to one of the countries you listed, I'm pretty sure you will have similar immigration related complaints.

Especially if Trump gets back in, we all know how he and many in his party feel about immigration from s*** hole countries/ coloured folk.

I don't mind

At least ill be making good money in tech with good weather while at it even if they're whining

I also know the different policies set in stone and the ways around it or to work towards the legal route. No be stand up today, gerrout tmr that the UK wants to be doing

Daku Daji policies like Buhari

justwise:
I did not say that the UK is a soft touch, i said they gave visa to whoever that can afford to pay. That is not being soft touch. Soft touch is uncontrollable illegal immigration, they can't stop people coming in through the English channel or lorries. They can't even deport those who came in illegally.

The whole immigration policies are targeting those coming in legally including the so called bright and intelligent ones.

A[b]single person paying £27.000 in 5yrs even if that individual did not use the NHS is nothing short of scam.

Immigration policies and the public's ire have largely been focused on the boat crossers for a while now. Sunak even made it one of his 5 pledges!
It was the recent huge ONS net migration figures that revealed that legal migration accounts for 99% of entrants to the UK and shifted the focus a bit, so it's not accurate to say that legal migrants are targeted more than asylum seekers.

Re the bolded, not really - you could say that it's the same for people who pay taxes and NI for donkey years and their taxes go to services they don't need or have never used such as hospitals, children's services including 15/30 hrs, primary and secondary schools and others? (For people without children).

hustla:


I don't mind

At least ill be making good money in tech with good weather while at it even if they're whining

I also know the different policies set in stone and the ways around it or to work towards the legal route. No be stand up today, gerrout tmr that the UK wants to be doing

Daku Daji policies like Buhari

The UK is whining same way the US and all other countries whine when they notice a surge in their immigrant population. What do you expect?

The only policies set in stone in the US are those enshrined in their constitution, everything else is subject to change. If the US could repeal the mighty Roe v Wade despite the massive backlash and protests, then is it some comparatively minor immigration law that they can't/won't change if there is sufficient political will?

Zahra29:


Not necessarily. There are many accounts of people who paid in excess of £15000 for passage to the UK. Even migrants from places like Vietnam who attempt to be smuggled in vans and lorries pay tens of thousands of pounds - for what? To go underground and not be able to work legally, rent, use hospital services etc

There was no surcharge a few years ago. And in less than 5 years it has multiplied to around £600 a year. Reality is that it will go up further as pressure on the NHS continues to increase.

Interestingly, for Australia you'd be looking AUD3,000-4000 per person per year for health insurance that's between £1.500-£2000. It covers everything though with some co-pay for specialist treatment.

NZ is bit cheaper at £300 ish per year but each Dr's visit costs £30 a pop which is paid out of pocket. It also doesn't cover dental or mental health and that is out of pocket as well.

Crucially, each applicant has to pass a detailed and pretty invasive medical exams in both countries that can truncate your visa dreams. Anaemia almost stopped mine in it's tracks. I had to be re-tested twice before my own work visa was issued.

Last year, a new immigrant Dr from SA killed her kids within weeks of arriving. She came off her meds to pass the medicals and they were issued a work visa. Due to being in quarantine, she didn't go back on her meds in good time and her mental deteriorated so badly that she suffocated and killed her daughters the first week she was alone with them.

I know of a psychiatrist who's high functioning autistic 10 year old was denied a visa and the rest of the family (2 other children) granted a work visa even though the parents (IT professional and Psychiatrist) offered to bear any costs for the child.

So that leaves Canada with a low entry bar health insurance wise if the UK does this. They all share 'best practice' though so who knows!

Las, las immigration will still continue o!

London people please I’m in search of job in London. Any available one for now to take hold body cos bills don dey choke

Newbie123:


Cool. In the meantime, call ACAS

ok thanks

Zahra29:


The UK is whining same way the US and all other countries whine when they notice a surge in their immigrant population. What do you expect?

The only policies set in stone in the US are those enshrined in their constitution, everything else is subject to change. If the US could repeal the mighty Roe v Wade despite the massive backlash and protests, then is it some comparatively minor immigration law that they can't/won't change if there is sufficient political will?

It is well o

Hello House, I got a cheaper insurance rate at the compare site when I used my provisional license, as against my genuine verifiable international driver's licence.

My question is this - can I use my provisional license to apply while I drive with my international? Won't there be any penalty.
Cos the double rate difference is something.

Thank you

justwise:


This clueless Home secertary wants to stop illegal immigrant but at the same time making it diffult for people to come in legally..

This is like trying to stop people from claming beneift but at the same time making it difficult for them to get a job

No this is illogical. The analogies don't relate at all.

With work you need money from somewhere to survive. So making it difficult for people to find work while also making it difficult for them to get support in unemployment is essentially condemning them to death.

With immigration it's travel that is at stake not survival. If you are not allowed to come in illegally or legally you will not die, you will simply have to remain in your country.

There's nothing clueless about it, though you or I may not like it - all countries, including the great Nigeria, have put in policies to reduce migration legally and illegally at various points.

justwise:
I did not say that the UK is a soft touch, i said they gave visa to whoever that can afford to pay. That is not being soft touch. Soft touch is uncontrollable illegal immigration, they can't stop people coming in through the English channel or lorries. They can't even deport those who came in illegally.

The whole immigration policies are targeting those coming in legally including the so called bright and intelligent ones.

A single person paying £27.000 in 5yrs even if that individual did not use the NHS is nothing short of scam.

The government is trying to fix that illegal channel route through the Rwanda plan but the usual 'activists' are criticising it as inhumane. There's an underlying bigoted sentiment there because I'm sure for many the only thing that makes them sure it's unsuitable for refugees is because it's in Africa, but that's a discussion for another day.

The fact is that the government is trying to curb legal and illegal immigration (as it has a mandate to do based on the sentiments from the majority of Brits) but is being combated on all fronts by people who have a multitude of reasons why the proposed policies are bad but not one alternative that they think would work and that would satisfy their faux-moral compasses.

Again, I may not agree with the plans or the overarching sentiments (after all I'm a migrant myself), but it's something they have a right to do just as my own country is doing, and all other countries are doing, too.

I mean in our own Nigeria you have less rights in many ways if you're in a state that's not your ancestral one (formally (being nominated for government appointments) and informally (standing or even voting in elections)) and pay more for services (e.g. state universities where non-'indigenes' pay a lot more), but somehow, here people want to make it seem like putting restrictions on international migrants is an evil thing that is unheard of.

Abegi.

koonbey:
I mean in our own Nigeria you have less rights in many ways if you're in a state that's not your ancestral one (formally (being nominated for government appointments) and informally (standing or even voting in elections)) and pay more for services (e.g. state universities where non-'indigenes' pay a lot more), but somehow, here people want to make it seem like putting restrictions on international migrants is an evil thing that is unheard of.

Abegi.

As if there is no such thing as "out of state students" even in the US who pay more than "indigenes"

Nigerians Sabi defend rubbish Sha

hustla:



As if there is no such thing as "out of state students" even in the US who pay more than "indigenes"

Nigerians Sabi defend rubbish Sha

The discussion is about UK, not US. Unclear what the relevance of the point you think you've made is, but I won't engage further as you're already defaulting to insults (as has always been typical for these discussions) which I can't join in with.

koonbey:


The discussion is about UK, not US. Unclear what the relevance of the point you think you've made but won't engage further as you're already defaulting to insults (as has always been typical for these discussions) which I can't join in with.

K

koonbey:


No this is illogical. The analogies don't relate at all.

With work you need money from somewhere to survive. So making it difficult for people to find work while also making it difficult for them to get support in unemployment is essentially condemning them to death.

With immigration it's travel that is at stake not survival. If you are not allowed to come in illegally or legally you will not die, you will simply have to remain in your country.

There's nothing clueless about it, though you or I may not like it - all countries, including the great Nigeria, have put in policies to reduce migration legally and illegally at various points.

its illogical to you because you simply did not understand it, if you make it difficult for people to come into the country legally they will come in through the backdoor which cost the govt £5.6 million a day.

If people on benefit are unable to get a job because of lack of help from the govt then they will keep claming cost the govt even more money.

So how is this illogical to you? Home Office is expecting that crossings could reach 85,000 this year and this figure will go up as the govt has lost the court case regarding deporting illegal immigrants to Rwanda

You can’t drive alone with your provisional license. You must be accompanied by a licensed driver. If Popo catches you driving alone that invalidates your insurance and your vehicle will be seized and you may also land in court.

misterkelly:
Hello House, I got a cheaper insurance rate at the compare site when I used my provisional license, as against my genuine verifiable international driver's licence.

My question is this - can I use my provisional license to apply while I drive with my international? Won't there be any penalty.
Cos the double rate difference is something.

Thank you

koonbey:


The discussion is about UK, not US. Unclear what the relevance of the point you think you've made but won't engage further as you're already defaulting to insults (as has always been typical for these discussions) which I can't join in with.

Best response so far. 🤣 If everyone can adopt this strategy instead of going down the route of arguing and counter argument, this thread won't derail.

misterkelly:
Hello House, I got a cheaper insurance rate at the compare site when I used my provisional license, as against my genuine verifiable international driver's licence.

My question is this - can I use my provisional license to apply while I drive with my international? Won't there be any penalty.
Cos the double rate difference is something.

Thank you

The license you tender, when engaging a contract with your insurance company.....

Is the license you MUST drive with......... If you make a claim, your license might be called upon.......

What licence would you submit........

Or if you get pulled by the police, what license would you produce......

I hope you're aware, police can phone your insurance company from the roadside....... 😜🙄

Zahra29:


Immigration policies and the public's ire have largely been focused on the boat crossers for a while now. Sunak even made it one of his 5 pledges!
It was the recent huge ONS net migration figures that revealed that legal migration accounts for 99% of entrants to the UK and shifted the focus a bit, so it's not accurate to say that legal migrants are targeted more than asylum seekers.

Re the bolded, not really - you could say that it's the same for people who pay taxes and NI for donkey years and their taxes go to services they don't need or have never used such as hospitals, children's services including 15/30 hrs, primary and secondary schools and others? (For people without children).

Give it 2-3 years they will go back to their vomit as they always do.

Just 2yrs ago they were begging foreign workers to come to the UK to work through health care visa, they reintroduced PSW so as to attract foreign students, a year later they start moaning about the same people they begged to come here.

The UK is a service economy that depends heavily on immigration to function, so this extreme immigration policy is just for next generation elections (which they are going to lose anyway) , next government comes in and go on their begging knees for foreign workers and students.

I’m not encouraging uncontrollable immigration policies, I’m basically saying that it should be sensible.

justwise:


Give it 2-3 years they will go back to their vomit as they always do.

Just 2yrs ago they were begging foreign workers to come to the UK to work through health care visa, they reintroduced PSW so as to attract foreign students, a year later they start moaning about the same people they begged to come here.

The UK is a service economy that depends heavily on immigration to function, so this extreme immigration policy is just for next generation elections (which they are going to lose anyway) , next government comes in and go on their begging knees for foreign workers and students.

I’m not encouraging uncontrollable immigration policies, I’m basically saying that it should be sensible.

When is the next election?

acosfd:
Good morning my good people

To all the switching gurus

Please how long do I need leave my £1250 in the natwest account. Can I pay the money into the natwest account today and transfer to another account the following day, or does it have to be the account for a specific period?

Natwest £200 pounds Don land. Una do well o

Abeg which bank dey give bonus again, let the switching continue