@ Enigma

I saw a website in uk,I mailed them to ask about the price,they replied that it is 12 pound but they dont sell to some one outside europe. This is the address: Blackbird media ltd,30 luxton Garden,paddock wood kent TN126BB. Email: sales@blackbirdmedia.co.uk. Tell No. 08450530420.

@ olofofo- my email is exposed beside my username.use yahoo. @ all- i still mentain that nilesat has been receiving in southern naija using 2.4m dish before now.i was thinking that u guys in lagos was using 2.4m.obnelly is in west with 2.4m and butoneday was using 2.4m strong dish for nilesat in warri,and lagos is higher than warri.All, it still remain ph,and eastern naija.who have 2.4m pan dish in ph?call me for nilesat.bigjoe and onyengbu since u re in motherland,i ll be coming home (onitsha)this november so we can also give it a try nwanne!

@olofofo where you dey? what about the SRT4652 patch please upload the stuff for me

@pitodenz
pls confirm that nile can be received in warri with 2.4 dish

badaru1:

@ Enigma

I saw a website in uk,I mailed them to ask about the price,they replied that it is 12 pound but they don't sell to some one outside europe. This is the address: Blackbird media ltd,30 luxton Garden,paddock wood kent TN126BB. Email: sales@blackbirdmedia.co.uk. Tell No. 08450530420.

Yeah, I know the owner of that site; Ian of Southern Satellite and I have bought something from him before. State the model of Humax and the model no of the remote control. I shouldn't have problems getting it from him if he has one; the bigger trouble is getting it to you. If you can wait, I will be in Lagos at the beginning of December.

@Enigma

The model No is Humax 5400

dark_side:

@olofofo where you dey? what about the SRT4652 patch please upload the stuff for me

sorry bros please go www.crosat.org for update and patch and anything else you might need. say a big Thank you to Oga Badaru for the link.

Nash-FTA:

@Olofofo,
You replied on September 30, 2008; 08:13AM,
"nice JOB. yes i receive citizen and KTN as well but none is as interesting to watch as NTV. I have been unsuccessful in getting their programme schedule from both their youtube site or nationmedia site. it will be nice to have it. my email lsb2k@yahoo.com. thx again".

@Olofofo and all NTV viewers on Intelsat 902 at 62 East; Freq.=3814, Polarisation=V, Symbolrate = 3852.
I have attached here the latest NTV WEEKLY PROGRAMME SCHEDULE for you.
Kind regards.

thanks

@badaru1

Sorry my link expired this money. i will have the stuff in your box before the end of the day.

@enitan2002.

I will do just that ASAP.

azeezbaba:
@ all

Can anybody please tell me where can get HUMAX receiver.

Here is their website. Go to the "CONTACT US" section to find the dealer near you.

http://www.humaxdigital.com/global/products/product_stb_satellite_foxsathd.asp

Enigma:

This theory is simply not correct. No matter the number of dishes pointing at a satellite, that number alone cannot increase or improve signal strength. As far as people receiving better signal from Nilesat is concerned, one explanation I can give is this: the likelihood is that people received more channels when Nilesat 102 was deployed in addition to Nilesat 101. Remember that there are three satellites located at the orbital position of 7w i.e. Nilesat 101, Nilesat 102 and Atlantic Bird 4 --- thereby increasing the number of frequencies and channels that can be received.

Compare saying that a radio FM frequency signal increases depending on the number of radio sets trying to receive the frequency; it is just not true; it is contrary to the physics/science.

@ Enigma.
Thanks for shading more light on the myth that Satellite foot print increases in proportion to large clusters of Dish installations in a Particular geographical location. I did try to explain here, but to no avail.

here are pictures of my 2.4m dish poiting to nilesat big ups thx to badaru.







considering the condition of my dish. i still get to enjoy some cool channels. am watching DUBAI ONE right now and it's pretty cool. so na wetin u northerners dey enjoy since be this hen?

@badaru

i had to reposition the dish myself, so i did the tracking all over again.

@all

I've been a member of #land for quite some time but I'm most active in the phone section, today my elder sister called me and she said to me that she doesn't like the way I leave my house at akk time just to watch football matches played live on pay TV's and she would love to buy us a HITV, she said I should go and get the cost of the package, then I should call her after I've made the research, I came on to nairaland and read the HITV thread but to my surprise I saaw the comments of their subscribers lamenting about the poor service rendered to them which I was never aware of till the moment I finished reading the review/ thread, I thought of finding another alternative an I read this thread and I couldn't believe that it's possible to still watch cable TV without subscription after the demise of California cable,

Reading this thread, I thought that I could convince her that this is what I need but I don't know the estimated cost for the full equipments and services required, Pls I need you kind assistance, most especially the gurus in the house that knows everything about setting up this FTA from the beginning to the end,

I reside in Lagos, bariga area precisely(anyone closer?),

Pls help me with the need of the full equipment needed and the total cost of full installation to show all the available channels,

lastly, I'm a Red devil fan and I love them till eternity, meaning all the channels is what I want to get, PLEASE HELP ME,



Thanks

initialize:

@all

I've been a member of #land for quite some time but I'm most active in the phone section, today my elder sister called me and she said to me that she doesn't like the way I leave my house at akk time just to watch football matches played live on pay TV's and she would love to buy us a HITV, she said I should go and get the cost of the package, then I should call her after I've made the research, I came on to nairaland and read the HITV thread but to my surprise I saaw the comments of their subscribers lamenting about the poor service rendered to them which I was never aware of till the moment I finished reading the review/ thread, I thought of finding another alternative an I read this thread and I couldn't believe that it's possible to still watch cable TV without subscription after the demise of California cable,

Reading this thread, I thought that I could convince her that this is what I need but I don't know the estimated cost for the full equipments and services required, please I need you kind assistance, most especially the gurus in the house that knows everything about setting up this FTA from the beginning to the end,

I reside in Lagos, bariga area precisely(anyone closer?),

please help me with the need of the full equipment needed and the total cost of full installation to show all the available channels,

lastly, I'm a Red devil fan and I love them till eternity, meaning all the channels is what I want to get, PLEASE HELP ME,



Thanks

Hitv is not as bad as people make them out to be. if your fancy is to enjoy premier league regularly, you might want to go for HITV, over here, most of us in here are enthusiasts, it goes beyond just watching TV or football, also, i am assuming you might not be the only one in your house, so try and consider others as well.

having said that, if you want to enjoy FTA, you might want to consider getting a 1.8m dish that is movable(motorized). this will cost you between 25-20k for everything, compared to like 15k for HITV. if pepper dey,, you can as well go for the two, you will not regret it. but you need to have space for the BIG dish that you will be buying.

the main advantage of FTA is that you do not have to pay and there are a lot more choices available to you, french, arabic, swahili and so on. try and do your research and then ask specific questions, there are guys in here that are more than capable of answering them.

@ initialize

Olofofo is correct; seeing that you seem to want guaranteed football, HITV is probably your best bet and I think that for football their service is not that bad. It seems most of those complaining are people who want other content beyond football.

As for the FTA that we are discussing here; again, olofofo is correct that it is primarily an enthusiast/hobbyist thing with the bonuses that we get thrown in in the form of entertainment (and even some football) from various parts of the world.

My own suggestion is as follows:

1. Read this thread and the FTA FAQs sticky and get a general understanding of FTA and satellite TV.

2. Buy your HiTV package i.e. dish and LNB, receiver/decoder, card, cables etc

3. If you think you might be interested in this hobby and if you have understood the basics, then try installing the HITV set up by yourself. If you are successful and you like it, then you can take FTA forward by experimenting in future.

4. If you know that you are definitely interested in the hobby, then seriously consider the FTA option that olofofo gave and decide if it is for you --- I'm sure when it comes to installing it, the community here will find a way to help you get it going.

5. On the other hand, if you are not interested in the hobby or are not confident about installing it yourself, get an installer to set up your system but try and watch and learn for the future; enjoy your HiTV in peace.

F_Marshal:

@ Enigma.
Thanks for shading more light on the myth that Satellite foot print increases in proportion to large clusters of Dish installations in a Particular geographical location. I did try to explain here, but to no avail.

F_marshal

Yep, I saw that post; just that its message needed to be repeated.

any one with good links to showtime keys?

@enigma n Olofofo

Thanks for the swift response and also your advise on making my choice, I wouldn't want to be selfish and consider myself alone, I'm the only boy in the midst of 5 ladies and I think I wouldn't justify my concience if I see this better offer of FTA and go ahead to satisfy myself alone, my family have waatched cable TV before with the help of california and they really enjoyed MBC 2 and 4 programs(Dr. Phil, Opera, and the movies), I think it will be a good option to have this programs back and also I don't get to pay any money monthly as stated from what I read.  I would prefer this FTA if it's really something you can help me get the best out of. From what I read, it's not that I don't get to watch football at all cos I saw you mention a channel that shows 3 live EPL matches and if I'm not watching football other sports like, MotoGP, Lawn tennis will be better alternatives.

If the full cost for the best FTA services and Installations is about 25,000. I guess it's really a benefit cos when you get you hiTV and you subscribe for about 3-6months the total cost will be above the FTA cost, it's not also guaranteed that their will be light anytime matches are played therefore, I'll choose the option which I think is right for me and I really need your assistance with this option which is the FTA option,


NB: I have the space for it

@ olofofo

(I was writing this when I saw your question just posted)

First, congrats on your Nilesat. Can you receive MBC Action and also MBCs 2 & 4? In fact, there are quite a number of channels on Nilesat with English programming including also some of the Kuwaiti channels. Alkass is a sports channnel; I mention this because it may not be obvious from the name.

As for Showtime keys, they are currently down and not working in most receivers, so you have to wait a little while. On the other hand, I think ART is still opening; I haven't checked as I can't receive ART on Nilesat. Incidentally I have an official ART card that I use on 13e).

By the way what brand receiver are you using?

Enigma:

@ olofofo

(I was writing this when I saw your question just posted)

First, congrats on your Nilesat. Can you receive MBC Action and also MBCs 2 & 4? In fact, there are quite a number of channels on Nilesat with English programming including also some of the Kuwaiti channels. Alkass is a sports channnel; I mention this because it may not be obvious from the name.

As for Showtime keys, they are currently down and not working in most receivers, so you have to wait a little while. On the other hand, I think ART is still opening; I haven't checked as I can't receive ART on Nilesat. Incidentally I have an official ART card that I use on 13e).

between what brand receiver are you using?

yes i get MBC but late at night till early morning. my dish was in really terrible shape, In fact i was going to ask if there's a way to increase the reception of the dish. signal booter?, panel beater?, stronger decoder? etc

i already have alksas on my 1.8m motorized on aranbat 2B. currently i am using strong 4652 but i was told I could get better receptions with the x series decoders. also i am currently investing in one of those card sharing decoders since i have brodband internet. any advice will be appreciated.

initialize:

@enigma n Olofofo

Thanks for the swift response and also your advise on making my choice, I wouldn't want to be selfish and consider myself alone, I'm the only boy in the midst of 5 ladies and I think I wouldn't justify my concience if I see this better offer of FTA and go ahead to satisfy myself alone, my family have waatched cable TV before with the help of california and they really enjoyed MBC 2 and 4 programs(Dr. Phil, Opera, and the movies), I think it will be a good option to have this programs back and also I don't get to pay any money monthly as stated from what I read.  I would prefer this FTA if it's really something you can help me get the best out of. From what I read, it's not that I don't get to watch football at all because I saw you mention a channel that shows 3 live EPL matches and if I'm not watching football other sports like, MotoGP, Lawn tennis will be better alternatives.

If the full cost for the best FTA services and Installations is about 25,000. I guess it's really a benefit because when you get you hiTV and you subscribe for about 3-6months the total cost will be above the FTA cost, it's not also guaranteed that their will be light anytime matches are played therefore, I'll choose the option which I think is right for me and I really need your assistance with this option which is the FTA option,


NB: I have the space for it

if you really want to enjoy FTA, then consider investing in a 2.4m fixed dish for NILESAT, which is one of the best FTA package out there. you will enjoy sports and your sister will probably enjoy more than you, since there enough movies, sitcoms and talk shows to lat one a lifetime. the size of the dish is the picture i posted earlier today and if you have space for something like that, then you are on your way to enjoying FTA.

cos implication.

dish is about 20-22k
decoder 7-8k
cable 900-1100
LNB 3000-2500
cost of installation varies, but first you have to get someone that can do it for you, i can recommended some members here for you.

the only thing that might perhaps suffer is your sleep, because with over 300 channels, you might not have time to sleep.

Olofofo

Those card shari*g receivers are not worth it; for instance, the servers for most of them are currently down. What you will find with most of those receivers is that they will work for a few weeks (maybe months), then server goes down and that might be the end of the receiver. Edited that is currently the case with the European and Middle East servers of such receivers; maybe F_Marshall can advise better regarding North American servers.

On improving signal --------- hmmmm, seems like time to buy a new and better 2.4 dish!!!!!!!

Seriously, I don't think a signal booster or panel beater will do that much good.

To tell you the truth, I am really impressed by your set up. I will like to know more about your motorised 1.8; can you please post a picture of it? I remember you are using 2 LNBs with it; one Ku and one C, is that correct?

Enigma:

Olofofo

Those card shari*g receivers are not worth it; for instance, the servers for most of them are currently down. What you will find with most of those receivers is that they will work for a few weeks (maybe months), then server goes down and that might be the end of the receiver.

On improving signal --------- hmmmm, seems like time to buy a new and better 2.4 dish!!!!!!!

Seriously, I don't think a signal booster or panel beater will do that much good.

To tell you the truth, I am really impressed by your set up. I will like to know more about your motorised 1.8; can you please post a picture of it? I remember you are using 2 LNBs with it; one Ku and one C, is that correct?

shey another 2.4m dish. the trick will be to get rid of this one.

the picture of my 1.8m, so posts back

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-7715.2304.html

i also posted the positions that i have on my jack sometime ago.

so much channels so little time to watch them. am enjoying it sha.

History tells me that Enigma leads a conservative leftist school of thot.While you may be right with the three birds hovering over head,ur comparing an audio signal to that of a digital video signal is laughable. Since our aim and contribution is complementary, I must not argue with you. I still stay by my assumptions.
olofofo, can you guys begin to experiment with taut polyethene material for 2-4 to 3.2 m dish construction. it will save you guys alot of money and should revolutionise FTA in nija?

olofofo

Thanks for the pictures but I'm still trying to understand that second picture. That seems to be just the C band LNB or is it that I am failing to see the Ku band LNB as I can see that there are indeed two cables. I guess what i really want to see is how you've placed the Ku band LNB next to the C band. And when you align it, do you align on the Ku band or on the C band?

Enigma:

olofofo

Thanks for the pictures but I'm still trying to understand that second picture. That seems to be just the C band LNB or is it that I am failing to see the Ku band LNB as I can see that there are indeed two cables. I guess what i really want to see is how you've placed the Ku band LNB next to the C band. And when you align it, do you align on the Ku band or on the C band?

C band lnb is pointer, ku aligned behind the C band(na suggest i dey)

jujukemist:

C band lnb is pointer, ku aligned behind the C band(na suggest i dey)

sorry, sleep came fast yesterday. i will get close up pictures of the set up for you today.

jujukemist:

History tells me that Enigma leads a conservative leftist school of thot.While you may be right with the three birds hovering over head,ur comparing an audio signal to that of a digital video signal is laughable. Since our aim and contribution is complementary, I must not argue with you. I still stay by my assumptions.
olofofo, can you guys begin to experiment with taut polyethene material for 2-4 to 3.2 m dish construction. it will save you guys alot of money and should revolutionise FTA in nija?

Please shed some more light .

Initialize,

Nothing stops you from getting the best of both worlds, since u haven't spent any money yet, it just might be possible for you to get a motorized dish with both c band and ku band lnb's at the focal point, and a decoder that has a multi-encryption cam (like strong for instance) get a HITV card, (if it is possible to get just the card) and u can receive both fta and paytv, you can check up on that sha. the ultimate would have been a 2.4m motorized dish, but those things are fairly unstable, so if u can get 1.8m dish with HITV card, u are good to go.

Jujukemist,

Do u still stay in KD, i wouldn't mind the opportunity to meet one of my mentors if it is okay with you. Another thing, please be careful with ur use of words, ur comments about Enigma's comparison can be taken wrongly. Enitan posted Badaru's hypothesis, some (especially the people with a lot more installation credentials) agree with him, while some (let me say the more theoritically inclined ones) disagree, i think the major problem so far is that u guys on Badaru's side of the coin haven't given out the supporting argument yet just the statement of the hypothesis, so it is difficult for others to see where u are coming from. please shed some more light if u can. though this is an aside from our fta stuff, it is a nonetheless interesting onel

my bro just sent me 2 humax 5400,i dont knw hw to use it,pls kindly tell me wat soft i can load in the system,baduru,olofofo ,engima is all left 4 u to teach me,u need to tell me ,i promise to send u one ifff?u can teach me,k

@Adewoyin

Where are u staying now?

@All

The argurment that numbers or concentration of dish in a particular area facing asatellite may increase or boost signal level is based on experiance I had with nilesat and hispasat then in the north. Then in kebbi if you want a good signal for nile i.e arround 1999-2000,you need 2.4m dish,even that may not give u 1966H 27500. But as more people start installing the bird,now you can get nile with 1.5m dish, I installed one and I got all the tps. The same story goes for hispasat,when we heard of the instalation in kano then,we were told to go for 3m dish and above to get the bird,but with time we got it with 1.8m dish.

Three things migth be responsible: Either concentration , learning curve of the installers or technology. But I will always stick with my first assertion-more dish more signal.

@Enitan

I will be working on my motorised 1.8m dish today

@Gangsta

Thanks for the advise, I don't really know much about the two(pay TV and FTA) but with you explaination and from what I have read in this thread I think is  good to have the best you can get and afford. does combining the two services as any effect on each others service or reception? I don't know  if there will be enough money to acquire the two networks cos I think it's really going to be expensive.

I know you are an expect in this field and you can help me with all i need to know and how much it will cost me to see any channel(FTA or PAY) on my tv that is different from the local channels my TV is known for. Pls help me with the breakdown of everything, I know you definetely have one in your house and it's going to be the best of the best reception that you will be getting, including that channel that shows 3 live EPL games, aljazeera, MBC, BBC, Eurosport, and the rest. I'll be very grateful

Breakdown list should include cost for the followings:;

1.8 or 2.5m Dish (depending on the one with more channels and good reception or the own you're using, lol)
Decoder (also the best one which is what you're using)
Hitv Card
LNB and the othe required connectors
cables
Installation.


NB: I read a manual showing different angles for different stations using the FTA, does that mean that each time you want to watch a channel that is off the current angle you'll have to go outside and rotate or incline your dish?

Excellent questions Initialize, but a few corrections before we proceed. First, the only thing i am an expert in is asking questions and probably manually inputting keys into a decoder, but in the general scheme of things in this thread, all those don't begin to qualify me as an expert. Secondly, my setup is pretty ordinary, just a normal 1.8m dish and a not so common clone decoder. i dont have practical knowledge of motorized dishes, but there are alot of people here who can help you out if you ask them including Pitodenz and Olofofo.

but having cleared that out of the way, i can make a few suggestions. From what i understand about them, motorized dishes can be made to rotate within an arc in which the 36 degree east position of HITV can be easily included and because you are using a 1.8m dish to receive a signal for which a 60cm dish is the intended dish size, u should have very little problems with signal levels on HITV if u do decide to get it. the beauty with this setup is that when u decide u no longer want to subscribe to HITV, u still have ur FTA network. (please note that the satellites you are receiving will not include the Nilesat group of satellites).
About cost, there seems to be a significant differences in prices between what u can get down south and what we can get up north, so i suggest u inquire from Lagos based people such as Enitan, Olofofo and Toxnaija, but the prices quoted for you above are fairly representative of what u require. The strong decoder is the typical decoder we use, it has a lot of support i.e. firmware upgrades, patches, softcams, etc, and most installers are familiar with it, the new ones have PVR function which will allow you to record your programs, also, the Conditional Access Module (CAM) which is the card holder allows u to use most common cards (irdeto= showtime, ART, DSTV; CONAX = HITV, TRENDTV) with it. and inputing keys is fairly easy, it cannot open jsc sports channels though, but then again nilesat is not your target at the moment. most of us here are targeting the HUMAX 5400 but it is not common around here so getting it will be difficult, but it does support keys for JSC sports.
As for the HITV card, i don't know if they will sell just the card to u, and frankly i don't know how much that will cost you, hopefully not too much (i am thinking N10,000 tops, but don't quote me sha).

Get in touch with Enitan, Olofofo, and Badaru (if he still is in Lagos), they are all nice people (from what i hear) and they can be of help to u. As for me, i can't help you more than just giving out suggestions which may be difficult for you to follow anyway, but i do wish you all the best.

Badaru,

Thanks for making ur point clearer. Please did u see my post, i didnt get that decoder along Kano Road, do u have anyone in mind u can direct me to so i can get it from there?

Pls hlp me wit sky901explorer,

badaru1:

@All

The argurment that numbers or concentration of dish in a particular area facing asatellite may increase or boost signal level is based on experiance I had with nilesat and hispasat then in the north. Then in kebbi if you want a good signal for nile i.e arround 1999-2000,you need 2.4m dish,even that may not give u 1966H 27500. But as more people start installing the bird,now you can get nile with 1.5m dish, I installed one and I got all the tps. The same story goes for hispasat,when we heard of the instalation in kano then,we were told to go for 3m dish and above to get the bird,but with time we got it with 1.8m dish.

Three things migth be responsible: Either concentration , learning curve of the installers or technology. But I will always stick with my first assertion-more dish more signal.

@ badaru

Firstly, I assure you once again that the mere fact of an increased number of dishes pointing at a satellite cannot increase the satellite signal. Believe me, this is not just theory, this is the practical reality.

Second, your post itself gives some clue or part of the reasons why it is apparently easier to get Nilesat. Originally, there was only one satellite at the location, i.e. Nilesat 101. Later Nilesat 102 was added and even later still in 2006 Atlantic Bird 4 was added. You look at it, whereas you previously had only 12 transponders to aim at, you now have 36. Evidently, it is more likely to be the case that you have greater chances of reception when there is a greater number of transponders.


On a different matter, I will check on the availability of the Humax remote Control and get back to you.

pls badaru, i live somewhere in lagos,ikorodu . call 08055223547,08029461534,pls let talk.pls