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Re: If You are Doing Well In Nigeria, You Have No Business Relocating Abroad by wildikeman(m): 7:57am On Jun 07, 2023
Abi1985:
If you have business thriving in Nigeria, please don't japa. If you are rich, please don't japa. The only exception is to further your education or you have businesses oversea that you are managing or you planning to born your children overseas for citizenship purpose. Please Just come and visit. Enjoy your holiday and come back to Nigeria. I was reading a post on Instagram on someone in Nigeria with thriving business making some serious money and she was thinking of relocating to Canada. Please do yourself a favor and stay home.
Escaping from political enemies or enemies or insecurity doesn't count.


How japa take concern your papa @OP...mind your damn business. its not everyone that runs out of Nigeria that is an economic migrant. Olofo
Re: If You are Doing Well In Nigeria, You Have No Business Relocating Abroad by ndan: 8:42am On Jun 07, 2023
ShenTeh:
People wey dey relocate, you think say na people wey dey earn #50k per month?

I tire o! No be even person wey dey earn 200k

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Re: If You are Doing Well In Nigeria, You Have No Business Relocating Abroad by Gerard28: 9:17am On Jun 07, 2023
babakb:


Hmmm he's just been insensitive, he should ask the victims of the Kaduna Train station attack the spent 6 months in Kidnappers then embarassed embarassed embarassed

Exactly
Re: If You are Doing Well In Nigeria, You Have No Business Relocating Abroad by MeineMutter: 9:23am On Jun 07, 2023
VTJN:
how is US a trash please? Gun violence? What?

Nope. Read through my comments, did I mention gun violence? See all proofs I put there. You too go and verify. I am sure Nigerians are lazy to read wider.

We believe in only what friends of friends and families tell us about the US. We believe in videos too and what we see on CNN.

Check all global perspective indices on living standards. Having good GDP and great economy doesn’t make you lead a quality life.

These are indices being developed and being updated by the same white socialists and economists.

I say it again: take out the money people make in the US, the country is trash, compared to those European countries I have mentioned when it comes to better living standards or quality of life.

You can try and find out more.
Re: If You are Doing Well In Nigeria, You Have No Business Relocating Abroad by Hassanmaye(m): 9:38am On Jun 07, 2023
Bouncingbabyboy:



Game on!!
Child trafficking is high in the west than Nigeria
Mental health is worse there
Imagine a mad man shooting you with easy access to a gun??
Imagine not being able to buy ordinary antibiotics from the pharmacy without prescription that will take weeks
Bouncing indeed you bounced on him
Re: If You are Doing Well In Nigeria, You Have No Business Relocating Abroad by doneback04: 9:45am On Jun 07, 2023
VTJN:
Nigeria top the list of countries with poorest and unemployed citizens. When will your God deliver her from that?


You are from Nigeria and can also pray to GoD to deliver us
Re: If You are Doing Well In Nigeria, You Have No Business Relocating Abroad by IbeOkehie: 10:54am On Jun 07, 2023
MeineMutter:


I am sure.

The link you out was reporting in 2018 data and wasn’t a generalized one. May be they were going to learn language or because of another thing. I am certain they left not because of quality of life.

Our Africans who migrated or are migrating were/are migrating only because of cash. You make more money in the US than in Europe, ideally.

When it comes to quality of life, US and Canada ain’t match any of these top European countries: Iceland, Denmark, The Netherlands, Germany, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Austria, Switzerland, Luxembourg, Liechtenstein.

All global living indices point to this fact.
I have so many Africans here who went to try live in the UK and North America. The longest amongst them stayed 10 months - Ghanaian family.

All our Nigerian counterparts who have stayed more than 5 years in any of the countries I have mentioned prefer to remain there because quality of life is top-notch.

On several occasions here, the highest it takes an ambulance (and fire services) to arrive at a scene is 10 minutes. Their controlling na di.e. Superb system.

Kids of ages 5 to 12 go out in middle of night here to play soccer and other games unaccompanied and nothing happens to them.

Social insurance is very very cheap and highly effective.

Schools are free parents only pay €80 monthly feeding fee in government schools.

They have the best transportation systems in the world.

No wonder Vienna was cited as World’s Most Livable Citied in the last assessment. The city has won the award more than 3 times.
No US cities has come 10th in any of global living perspective indices. Only Vancouver, BC, has tried a bit.

Denmark is 99% not corrupt. Netherlands is a paradise on its own.
Go to Switzerland and see their system.

Even when it comes to postal services, no US or Canada government’s postal services come closer like that if their European counterparts.

This is just to give a scanty account of how European countries are living large.

I have met a lot of Americans who visited Germany and vowed never to return to the US and love their permanently again.

If Europe could have more English speakers, I bet you, nobody would want to migrate to America or Canada again.

You can check a few things here about quality of life and sone other things:

https://www.numbeo.com/quality-of-life/rankings_by_country.jsp


US is even nowhere to be found.

Use other world indices websites, other than the one I have given above, you will get nearly the same results.


It's important to note from the outset that I regard the UK, USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa as essentially the same country. I call them Anglo-Western nations.

You're correct on the quality of life rankings. Very correct. However those measures aren't too relevant for everyday life. It's like saying Bill Gates is a very stupid man because he ranks lower than Jeff Bezos on the Forbes 400 List of billionaires. It's truly a meaningless difference.

The 2018 data is only 5 years old haba. I'm very sure more Western Eurpeans migrate to the USA today than vice versa even today, though Covid Pandemic might have scrambled the patterns though.

There's more to life than money. I think....no, I know the reason Eurpeans migrate to the USA. They come for FREEDOM. Many European countries don't even have freedom of speech. You would be shocked to know the number of people imprisoned in Western Europe for SAYING the wrong thing. Go ahead and look it up, I know I've come across it and was shocked

Then there's the economic freedom.

The actual main advantage that Europe has over the USA is ethnic homogeneity and smaller populations and land mass. They're very cozy, for want of a better word. Most countries there are over 90% White and in many cases over 80% one tribe. Because of that they feel comfortable paying high taxes and providing social amenities for their people.

Again despite all that far more Europeans migrate to the USA than vice versa. I think that's the ultimate measure of what people want. If you do the research, you will also find that most people from ANY COUNTRY who migrate or intend to migrate PREFER the USA as their final destination. That is definitely the case among Black Africans. The more accurate statement is that migrants want to live in ANGLO-WESTERN countries. In fact most 3rd World immigrants living in Europe have the UK as their ultimate destination.

I know MANY Nigerians, Ghanians, Senegalese and Cameroonians LIVING and resident in Italy, Germany and France who moved to the UK. In fact one of my 2nd Cousins born and raised in Italy moved to the UK when he finished University in Milan. There's a reason for that. The English tribe are a special people and the countries they've built....UK USA Australia Canada New Zealand South Africa... are a reflection of their ingenuity.

The UK exited the EU precisely because mainland Europe is a long term disaster in the making....it's a potential Nigeria as a matter of fact, but the results are gonna be a long time coming, probably in about 100 years before they realize their mistakes.

And in the final analysis, both North America and Western Europe have high living standards. Truly a distinction without a difference. I've traveled and stayed for months in a few European countries and I prefer the USA. To each their own.

Cheers.
Re: If You are Doing Well In Nigeria, You Have No Business Relocating Abroad by AfonjaConehead: 11:01am On Jun 07, 2023
Op abeg shut up.
Even if one is doing well in naija,do you think it's easy and ok living your whole life in a place like Lagos that many call home with agberoes everywhere!?
Imagine living your life for 10,15,20 years with agberoes on the roads and streets!

Imagine living your life on Nigeria with constant power outage,in darkness and heat!

Living your life with sounds of generators and breathing fumes from same gens in your apartment!!!

Rubbish

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Re: If You are Doing Well In Nigeria, You Have No Business Relocating Abroad by MeineMutter: 11:13am On Jun 07, 2023
IbeOkehie:


You're correct on the quality of life rankings. Very correct. However those measures aren't too relevant for everyday life. It's like saying Bill Gates is a very stupid man because he ranks lower than Jeff Bezos on the Forbes 400 List of billionaires. It's truly a meaningless difference.

The 2018 data is only 5 years old haba. I'm very sure more Western Eurpeans migrate to the USA today than vice versa even today, though Covid Pandemic might have scrambled the patterns though.

There's more to life than money. I think....no, I know the reason Eurpeans migrate to the USA. They come for FREEDOM. Many European countries don't even have freedom of speech. You would be shocked to know the number of people imprisoned in Western Europe for SAYING the wrong thing. Go ahead and look it up, I know I've come across it and was shocked

Then there's the economic freedom.

The actual main advantage that Europe has over the USA is ethnic homogeneity and smaller populations and land mass. They're very cozy, for want of a better word. Most countries there are over 90% White and in many cases over 80% one tribe. Because of that they feel comfortable paying high taxes and providing social amenities for their people.

Again despite all that far more Europeans migrate to the USA than vice versa. I think that's the ultimate measure of what people want. If you do the research, you will also find that most people from ANY COUNTRY who migrate or intend to migrate PREFER the USA as their final destination. That is definitely the case among Black Africans. The more accurate statement is that migrants want to live in ANGLO-WESTERN countries. In fact most 3rd World immigrants living in Europe have the UK as their ultimate destination.

I know MANY Nigerians, Ghanians, Senegalese and Cameroonians LIVING and resident in Italy, Germany and France who moved to the UK. In fact one of my 2nd Cousins born and raised in Italy moved to the UK when he finished University in Milan. There's a reason for that. The English tribe are a special people and the countries they've built....UK USA Australia Canada New Zealand South Africa... are a reflection of their ingenuity.

The UK exited the EU precisely because mainland Europe is a long term disaster in the making....it's a potential Nigeria as a matter of fact, but the results are gonna be a long time coming, probably in about 100 years before they realize their mistakes.

And in the final analysis, both North America and Western Europe have high living standards. Truly a distinction without a difference. I've traveled and stayed for months in a few European countries and I prefer the USA. To each their own.

Cheers.



You too are right on the fact that European Ma could be looking for freedom. But come any day, I would choose quality of life over money and extreme freedom.

Yankees freedom of speech doesn’t go beyond poke-nosing into people’s private lives and using derogatory words and posting or showing explicit things to the world.

I beg to differ on that of UK exiting the EU because of foreseeable disasters.

UK exited the EU because of their ego of always wanting to be the first and calling the shots. They don’t like being in ‘common pool’ or be seen being objected by smaller EU countries.

You would discover that referendum was manipulated to favour the exit. Till today, 2 or 3 countries from the 5 countries that constitute the UK are not happy with the exit and they are trying to pull off the UK itself only that Great Britain is suppressing it.

Great Britain 🇬🇧 citizens themselves don’t like the exit. It is the oligarchs that forced the exit down the throats of ordinary British people.

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Re: If You are Doing Well In Nigeria, You Have No Business Relocating Abroad by IbeOkehie: 11:52am On Jun 07, 2023
MeineMutter:


You too are right on the fact that European Man could be looking for freedom. But come any day, I would choose quality of life over money and extreme freedom.

Yankees freedom of speech doesn’t go beyond poke-nosing into people’s private lives and using derogatory words and posting or showing explicit things to the world.

I beg to differ on that of UK exiting the EU because of foreseeable disasters.

UK exited the EU because of their ego of always wanting to be the first and calling the shots. They don’t like being in ‘common pool’ or be seen being objected by smaller EU countries.


You would discover that referendum was manipulated to favour the exit. Till today, 2 or 3 countries from the 5 countries that constitute the UK are not happy with the exit and they are trying to pull of the UK itself only that Great Britain is suppressing it.

Great Britain 🇬🇧 citizens themselves don’t like the exit. It is the oligarchs that forced the exit down the throats of ordinary British people.

It's important to note from the outset that I regard the UK, USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa as essentially the same country. I call them Anglo-Western nations.

I also think you underestimate the differences in levels of freedom of speech. There's at least hundreds...I think thousands.... of people in prison in Western Europe for saying the wrong thing. To me as an American, that's abominable.

It's obvious you've been thinking about this so I'm sure you'd recognize the FACT that good research and surveys have shown that the most important precursor factors that contribute to high national HDI are the following:

1) Democracy,
2) ethnic, racial or cultural Homogeneity,
3) small population,
4) Free market economics.

I'm sure you're familiar with the high HDI of the Scandinavian nations, they're that way because they have most of those factors. Most people don't know this, but the economies of Scandinavian nations are more free market than that of the USA.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq3vVbdgMuQ

Most Black African countries have low HDI because they don't have ANY of those factors. Nigeria is a prime example.

The EU is a construct that purposefully wants to build a Super State with LESS of the factors that generate high HDI.

The EU is trying to build a Nigeria style nation in Europe. It's a direct contradiction of the Westphalian principles that made Europe a prosperous, safe and developed Continent. That is why the UK pulled out of the EU. The English are a wise people, they have a wide experience of what makes nations work because they've colonized many, many peoples, they've built many great nations. I was overjoyed when Brexit succeeded, it was a very slim vote. I was happy because England will LIKELY remain a civilized refuge for freedom and democracy well into the future....note I wrote ENGLAND, not necessarily the UK.

Go read the history of the Euro. When most other countries adopted the Euro, the UK refused. This was back in the 1970's. By 2008 most realized the Euro was not so good. It directly factored into the economic implosion of Greece, Ireland and Italy.....only Ireland has fully recovered today.

Go check some of the economic policies of the EU. I know for example that they sued Ireland for having low taxes. I don't know how the case has turned out.

Migration? They're insisting on taking large numbers of migrant people from nations with diametrically different cultures. I've randomly asked the question of many highly educated Nigerians, even some living in Europe....they don't know that ALL Europeans countries are over 80% White population, even 90%.

The EU is a disaster in the making. USA is heading in the same wrong direction too, by the way, though there's still a little hope, just a glimmer of hope. I guess every good thing comes to an end. I'll be long dead when the evil days arrive.

Cheers.
Re: If You are Doing Well In Nigeria, You Have No Business Relocating Abroad by Chestan(m): 11:54am On Jun 07, 2023
If you have opportunities whether rich or poor, my brother and sister, please JAPA. This country is wack. Instead, pay visit sometimes.

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Re: If You are Doing Well In Nigeria, You Have No Business Relocating Abroad by MeineMutter: 12:49pm On Jun 07, 2023
IbeOkehie:


It's important to note from the outset that I regard the UK, USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa as essentially the same country. I call them Anglo-Western nations.

I also think you underestimate the differences in levels of freedom of speech. There's at least hundreds...I think thousands.... of people in prison in Western Europe for saying the wrong thing. To me as an American, that's abominable.

I think you've been thinking about this so I'm sure you'd recognize the FACT that good research and surveys have shown that the most important precursor factors that contribute to high national HDI are the following:

1) Democracy,
2) ethnic, racial or cultural Homogeneity,
3) small population,
4) Free market economics.

I'm sure you're familiar with the high HDI of the Scandinavian nations, they're that way because they have most of those factors. Most people don't know this, but the economies of Scandinavian nations are more free market than that of the USA.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq3vVbdgMuQ

Most Black African countries have low HDI because they don't have ANY of those factors. Nigeria is a prime example.

The EU is a construct that purposefully wants to build a Super State with LESS of the factors that generate high HDI.

The EU is trying to build a Nigeria style nation in Europe. It's a direct contradiction of the Westphalian principles that made Europe a prosperous, safe and developed Continent. That is why the UK pulled out of the EU. The English are a wise people, they have a wide experience of what makes nations work because they've colonized many, many peoples, they've built many great nations. I was overjoyed when Brexit succeeded, it was a very slim vote. I was happy because England will LIKELY remain a civilized refuge for freedom and democracy well into the future....note I wrote ENGLAND, not necessarily the UK.

Go read the history of the Euro. When most other countries adopted the Euro, the UK refused. This was back in the 1970's. By 2008 most realized the Euro was not so good. It directly factored into the economic implosion of Greece, Ireland and Italy.....only Ireland has fully recovered today.

Go check some of the economic policies of the EU. I know for example that they sued Ireland for having low taxes. I don't know how the case has turned out.

Migration? They're insisting on taking large numbers of migrant people from nations with diametrically different cultures. I've randomly asked the question of many highly educated Nigerians, even some living in Europe....they don't know that ALL Europeans countries are over 80% White population, even 90%.

The EU is a disaster in the making. USA is heading in the same wrong direction too, by the way, thought there's still a little hope, just a glimmer of hope. I guess every good thing comes to an end, but I'll be long dead by the time the evil days arrive.

Cheers.


Thanks for your insightful perspectives. I will read more them.

Cheers, bro.

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Re: If You are Doing Well In Nigeria, You Have No Business Relocating Abroad by IbeOkehie: 2:01pm On Jun 07, 2023
MeineMutter:


Thanks for your insightful perspectives. I will read more them.

Cheers, bro.

Thanks, you gave me a few kernels to chew. I learned something.

Thanks.
Re: If You are Doing Well In Nigeria, You Have No Business Relocating Abroad by BigIyanga: 2:24pm On Jun 07, 2023
doneback04:



Am exempted bro, none of this can happen to me because am serving a living God, it can only happens to those who doesn't know where they belong in Christ,
the problem with people like you your brain at some point feel like nothing good can come out of Nigeria that why you tend to japa,
but you forgot that there are several people in this Nigerian that is succeeding and doing extremely well in their endeavors.
you just have to change your perspective about Nigeria and start see good inside of it,
there is a word that whatever you don't accept in your mind would not accept you
I have always seen Nigeria as a nation where my name and business will flourish and GOD has been doing it for me as we speak.
Keep wallowing in delusion.. God na your uncle and village head…. We’re 10m miles removed from God.

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Re: If You are Doing Well In Nigeria, You Have No Business Relocating Abroad by vicath(f): 2:27pm On Jun 07, 2023
Anyone who eventually decides to japa via the study route can contact me. UK, Canada, Netherlands, Ireland and Mauritius. We’ll handle your applications seemlessly.
Re: If You are Doing Well In Nigeria, You Have No Business Relocating Abroad by vicath(f): 2:28pm On Jun 07, 2023
Abi1985:
If you have business thriving in Nigeria, please don't japa. If you are rich, please don't japa. The only exception is to further your education or you have businesses oversea that you are managing or you planning to born your children overseas for citizenship purpose. Please Just come and visit. Enjoy your holiday and come back to Nigeria. I was reading a post on Instagram on someone in Nigeria with thriving business making some serious money and she was thinking of relocating to Canada. Please do yourself a favor and stay home.
Escaping from political enemies or enemies or insecurity doesn't count.

Anyone who eventually decides to japa via the study route can contact me. UK, Canada, Netherlands, Ireland and Mauritius. We’ll handle your applications seemlessly.

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Re: If You are Doing Well In Nigeria, You Have No Business Relocating Abroad by kasim155: 2:36pm On Jun 07, 2023
Skyfornia:
It is not all about money..some other things to consider are access to good medical care, safety, conducive environment, standard education for kids..etc
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Don't mind the OP jare, some of the so called rich people that are doing well in Naija have the passport of other countries. They will just be flying in and out of Naija or just japa finally

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Re: If You are Doing Well In Nigeria, You Have No Business Relocating Abroad by IbeOkehie: 5:24pm On Jun 07, 2023
doneback04:



Am exempted bro, none of this can happen to me because am serving a living God, it can only happens to those who doesn't know where they belong in Christ,
the problem with people like you your brain at some point feel like nothing good can come out of Nigeria that why you tend to japa,
but you forgot that there are several people in this Nigerian that is succeeding and doing extremely well in their endeavors.
you just have to change your perspective about Nigeria and start see good inside of it,

there is a word that whatever you don't accept in your mind would not accept you
I have always seen Nigeria as a nation where my name and business will flourish and GOD has been doing it for me as we speak.

For the upteenth time, no reasonable person says that it's impossible to live a happy, prosperous and long life in Nigeria.

The real issue is this - what proportion of the Nigerian population right now live a happy, prosperous and long life. As in, what are the PROBABILITIES for each random person.

We have reasonably good stats that 30% of the adult population is unemployed, that's a woeful start right there. Like it or not, statistics are reality, the numbers are derived from real people and their experiences. It's not about YOU being exempt from adversity, it's about EVERYONE, the generality of the populace.

I know most people can understand these simple things. It can't be that hard.

Cheers!

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Re: If You are Doing Well In Nigeria, You Have No Business Relocating Abroad by kushe: 7:03pm On Jun 07, 2023
IbeOkehie:


You have a good point 👍🏾 . The question then is, what are the PROBABILITIES for the evolution of a productive and developed Nigeria? It's important to ask because we've been long term witnesses to the eternal POTENTIALS of Nigeria.

I know EXACTLY why I lost my enthusiasm for Nigeria. It was Occupy Nigeria in Jan 2012. I've preached about this ad nauseum. Thankfully someone like David Hundeyin recognizes the inflection point that was....

https://twitter.com/DavidHundeyin/status/1663494884622233602

The rejection of the governments deregulation policy at that time was the zenith of ignorance and collective self harm. That was when I finally realized that something is wrong with THE NIGERIAN. So I packed up and left the country.

If I was going to ever rethink my decision, the elections of 2015 made it irrevocable. A solid electoral majority of Nigerians voted for the leaders of a political party that told them FUEL SUBSIDY DOESN'T EXIST. Muhammadu Buhari, a former President and Petroleum Minister, actually campaigned on that slogan and won! Prof Tam David West another former Petroleum Minister also said there's nothing like subsidy! Bola Tinubu actually led the Ojota protests and is now President!

And true to the predictions of Goodluck Jonathan, the fuel subsidy bankrupted Nigeria. President Buhari himself was forced to admit exactly that in his last budget speech.

So tell me, do you think the populace that has been so easily deceived has any reservoir of intellect that can develop Nigeria? As a purely probabilistic calculation, it seems unlikely. That's just the measured truth, it has nothing to do with my political opinions.

Look, don't kid yourself. . Nigerians are a severely damaged people. Nigeria is finished. Good Luck to all those who must endure it. As for me, I'm done...done and done. And thankful I have the means to enforce my choice. 🙏

Cheers.

I wonder at you lot that can comfortably settle in another man's country but again maybe it is an upbringing perspective.
I was an only child growing up here in Nigeria because my older brothers were in boarding schools in England, and while the thought of going abroad was once upon a time interesting,the more time I spent abroad,the more I didn't want to be there.
A driver took me everywhere in Nigeria,but at 13 I was given a travel card and could go wherever I pleased in London. I even attended the Nottinghill carnival by myself at 15. But as I got older,home kept calling.
I remember the first time I saw the tube station Embankment on the northern line if I am right,and something happened inside me at the tender age of 13.It was a desire to build,create beautiful designs like how beautiful that tube station was.
Some people built the London underground over a hundred years ago,others keep modernising and expanding it,and voila, Lagos is an empty canvass on which imagination can become a masterpiece.
The more time I spent in London,the more I realised I couldn't possibly exist there. There are no problems to solve and there is always certainly a coldness in the air that doesn't have anything to do with the weather.
In naija however with all the problems APC this,PDP that,it is sunshine forever and there is never a dull moment.
If Jesus my saviour tarries,I will die in this country because I love Nigeria. I might be moving to Jos,but except God wills,I don't see myself spending more than 2 weeks outside naija.

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Re: If You are Doing Well In Nigeria, You Have No Business Relocating Abroad by BigIyanga: 8:21pm On Jun 07, 2023
kushe:


I wonder at you lot that can comfortably settle in another man's country but again maybe it is an upbringing perspective.
I was an only child growing up here in Nigeria because my older brothers were in boarding schools in England, and while the thought of going abroad was once upon a time interesting,the more time I spent abroad,the more I didn't want to be there.
A driver took me everywhere in Nigeria,but at 13 I was given a travel card and could go wherever I pleased in London. I even attended the Nottinghill carnival by myself at 15. But as I got older,home kept calling.
I remember the first time I saw the tube station Embankment on the northern line if I am right,and something happened inside me at the tender age of 13.It was a desire to build,create beautiful designs like how beautiful that tube station was.
Some people built the London underground over a hundred years ago,others keep modernising and expanding it,and voila, Lagos is an empty canvass on which imagination can become a masterpiece.
The more time I spent in London,the more I realised I couldn't possibly exist there. There are no problems to solve and there is always certainly a coldness in the air that doesn't have anything to do with the weather.
In naija however with all the problems APC this,PDP that,it is sunshine forever and there is never a dull moment.
If Jesus my saviour tarries,I will die in this country because I love Nigeria. I might be moving to Jos,but except God wills,I don't see myself spending more than 2 weeks outside naija.
Do you also get all your medical treatments 100% done in Naija?
Re: If You are Doing Well In Nigeria, You Have No Business Relocating Abroad by Treadway: 8:45pm On Jun 07, 2023
BigIyanga:

Do you also get all your medical treatments 100% done in Naija?
lol...this my guy don come again..why pressing him na? He tell you say na sickler him be ni? What happened to live and let live? Not everyone is frail, sickly, unfit, accident-prone. Not everyone likes the thought of being anywhere near a hospital as though it is some sort of hotel. Some want to revel and rejoice in very good health, continually living healthy till ripe old age, like my father, and like me too by God's grace. On only two occasions have I been in a hospital, and it was when my wife birthed my two kids.

By the way, do you get medical treatments weekly or bi-weekly? That is how odd your question to that fellow sounded.

Unbelievable, how you just sprung that out of nowhere like you are talking about a resort or spa. Jeez🤣

Ps: this is on a light note.
Re: If You are Doing Well In Nigeria, You Have No Business Relocating Abroad by Treadway: 8:53pm On Jun 07, 2023
OP just speak for yourself. People travel and na their prerogative, and their money. Just say 'I so so and so have no business relocating cos I am doing well'. I say it all the time..lol. Shikena
Re: If You are Doing Well In Nigeria, You Have No Business Relocating Abroad by kushe: 9:32pm On Jun 07, 2023
BigIyanga:

Do you also get all your medical treatments 100% done in Naija?

I don't even know the process of getting medical attention abroad. I am with a growing HMO in naija,if the drugs they give me are suspect because the maker is in India ,Jordan or Pakistan, I will enter pharmacy and buy Pfizer or Novartis at 3x the price,but I rarely do that.
I believe in our health system despite the brain drain.Save urself unnecessary expenses and find you a good Nigerian doctor.
My only issue with us is specialities like the kidneys,brain and some cancers. Even kidney ailments can be handled in naija,it is just really really costly.
Nothing to fear,God got us.If you are ever worried,I recommend a hot bowl of okra vegetable with diced pomo and giant shrimps,any swallow of your choice and a chilled bottle of coke.
We die here,nothing dey happen.
Re: If You are Doing Well In Nigeria, You Have No Business Relocating Abroad by BigIyanga: 2:27am On Jun 08, 2023
kushe:


I don't even know the process of getting medical attention abroad. I am with a growing HMO in naija,if the drugs they give me are suspect because the maker is in India ,Jordan or Pakistan, I will enter pharmacy and buy Pfizer or Novartis at 3x the price,but I rarely do that.
I believe in our health system despite the brain drain.Save urself unnecessary expenses and find you a good Nigerian doctor.
My only issue with us is specialities like the kidneys,brain and some cancers. Even kidney ailments can be handled in naija,it is just really really costly.
Nothing to fear,God got us.If you are ever worried,I recommend a hot bowl of okra vegetable with diced pomo and giant shrimps,any swallow of your choice and a chilled bottle of coke.
We die here,nothing dey happen.
Thank for your honest answers … we have no health system .. COVID taught us that.. a country of 200m with less than 10 working ventilators.
Abeg God no get cos he’s too busy. Millions of Naija dont have or believe in medical history…. But they know who killed their great grand parents….but cant tell you if they have history of stroke in their family..
over 100m cannot to go and see a doctor if they medical issues.
God forbid is not a medical solution.
Re: If You are Doing Well In Nigeria, You Have No Business Relocating Abroad by BigIyanga: 2:36am On Jun 08, 2023
Treadway:
lol...this my guy don come again..why pressing him na? He tell you say na sickler him be ni? What happened to live and let live? Not everyone is frail, sickly, unfit, accident-prone. Not everyone likes the thought of being anywhere near a hospital as though it is some sort of hotel. Some want to revel and rejoice in very good health, continually living healthy till ripe old age, like my father, and like me too by God's grace. On only two occasions have I been in a hospital, and it was when my wife birthed my two kids.

By the way, do you get medical treatments weekly or bi-weekly? That is how odd your question to that fellow sounded.

Unbelievable, how you just sprung that out of nowhere like you are talking about a resort or spa. Jeez🤣

Ps: this is on a light note.
What an insular response. The reason why you’re bereft of how unhealthy Naija is because you’re deluded to think that it doesn't matter.
A lot of capital cities in Naija dont have hospitals equiped with CT scan and MRI machines…
In Cities like Lagos and Abj where they have them 90% of residents cant afford it. B4 you open your mouth, 5% of Nigerians have 500K in the bank accounts… CT scans can cost up to N100k per scan.

For kidney dialysis, it would cost N150k/per session x 3x in a wk =450k/w… N24M in yr.. Ask Ekweremadus.. How many people in your lineage are rich as Ekweremadu? NONE
Re: If You are Doing Well In Nigeria, You Have No Business Relocating Abroad by Love800(m): 5:47am On Jun 08, 2023
Wat do you mean by working class people?
Abagworo:
Nobody with seemingly thriving business can relocate except he's having undisclosed shortfalls. It's working class people that relocate to go and continue being working class.

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