This thread has quite a few posts and I haven't had time to go through every post, but I will shortly. What is the real reason for relocating the NLNG headquarter to Port-Harcourt.

Given that business operations can be managed from any part of the world, these days, I'm interested in the real reason for this move. What are the activities of the employees of NLNG at the current Lagos location? No guesses please, if you know the answer, please inform me.

ndu_chucks: This thread has quite a few posts and I haven't had time to go through every post, but I will shortly. What is the real reason for relocating the NLNG headquarter to Port-Harcourt.

Given that business operations can be managed from any part of the world, these days, I'm interested in the real reason for this move. What are the activities of the employees of NLNG at the current Lagos location? No guesses please, if you know the answer, please inform me.

People have already told of how they needed to board Bristow helo's and aerocontractor planes like taxi shuttles between Lagos and the ND.
That sort of thing only makes sense when there are underhand deals to fund such stress.

Cut out the deals and business sense takes over.

Beaf:

Everything above is a lie. Rather, as soon as the war was declared, Biafra immediately invaded the Midwest and declared us the independent Republic of Benin without even asking us!
Then they made their way through to Ore. Please don't revise history and further lose credibility, you are fooling only yourself with all this name dropping and crap, as if the war started from Escravos.

There is a marked difference between your comment and mine. I gave dates of the events, places of events and the participants. Unfortunately quite unlike you, the statement of “as soon as the war declared, Biafra immediately invaded the Midwest and declared us the independent Republic of Benin” left much to desired.

Take time to ponder about this question, who and what declared the war against whom?

Dede1:

There is a marked difference between your comment and mine. I gave dates of the events, places of events and the participants. Unfortunately quite unlike you, the statement of “as soon as the war declared, Biafra immediately invaded the Midwest and declared us the independent Republic of Benin” left much to desired.

Take time to ponder about this question, who and what declared the war against whom?

You gave dates and places, except you failed to give the dates and places that were invaded.
If not dishonesty, I don't know how you can invade someones land and turn around to accuse them of "betraying" you. It is people of your age that go around spreading these falsehoods to the younger ones like kettykin.

Please, let us forget this topic. There is nothing worse than being at the butt of someone else's false accusations.

Beaf:

People have already told of how they needed to board Bristow helo's and aerocontractor planes like taxi shuttles between Lagos and the ND.
That sort of thing only makes sense when there are underhand deals to fund such stress.

Cut out the deals and business sense takes over.

How many of the employees have to travel and what's the frequency of the travels? I still await an answer to my question:

"Given that business operations can be managed from any part of the world, these days, I'm interested in the real reason for this move. What are the activities of the employees of NLNG at the current Lagos location? No guesses please, if you know the answer, please inform me."

Are these travelers manual laborers and if not, why can't they communicate with ND employees electronically and telephone? I bet these travelers make up less than 0.1% of the Lagos employees - do you know the numbers or are your guesses based on heresay?

^
Do manual labourers fly by helicopter?

KINGwax: why did u say 'drive' when it really will be 'fly'?

You can't fly equipment trucks.

Beaf: ^
Do manual labourers fly by helicopter?

Good, so what percentage of these flyers travel on a regular basis and why? If only a handful of them need to travel frequently because telephones, emails, other electronic communications devices are insufficient to meet their needs, why can't those employees relocate? Why move the whole head quarters.

Again I ask you, what percentage of the staff at the Lagos head quarters have to travel on a regular basis to necessitate this move. If you don't know, simply state so, we don't have to know everything.

I hope you are not supporting this move due to tribal interests? I await your sensible response.


@odumchi, are heavy trucks used in exploratory activities parked in Lagos?

Jonasatan can carry all the oil companies to his village in Bayelsa,who cares.The most dishonest president nigeria produce. bite the very hands that fed him. Oya make una come fight useless jobless online smalltimers. U know urselves.

How does this movement affect lagos negatively? In all honesty, I do not get the reason behind una argument. So the headquarter moved and so what. SMH, must everything result to an argument.

As for edicolove post on delta, nwoke may thunder fire you for there. Na your mama and papa is holding SS back, don't blame delta for what your parents did.

The only character that have been consistent in my reading on nairaland is jason123, bless his soul but the other fake niger-deltan is on big a.s.s-hole. Permanently on nairaland telling lies to all this small pikins.

sylve11: Musiwa, Beaf and Jason123, sorry for being so rude. The fact that one is claiming Warri belongs to the Itsekiri is what is really chopping me up about this Musiwa of a guy. now NLNG Head-Quarters Moved To Port-Harcourt (From Victoria Island), Musiwa is saying why not move it to Ondo State. Musiwa, Beaf, Jason123 sorry once again; every man to their own opinion, i should have put that first before starting the insults.


Anyway, Musiwa go ahead and say over and over again, it's ur opion.

You gotta learn not to take musiwa seriously.
He's a funny character, majority of his post is malicious.
You'll get used to it and probably will notice the comedy behind them

Beaf is quite silly to be talking about underhand deals, when underhand deals are precisely behind the rushed move.

Would it have killed NLNG to remain in its current offices till 2013 when its permanent HQ would've been completed at Eastern bypass in PH?

Why rush through a decision to move in 60 days when the initial plan was 2 years - involving massive cost in renting accommodation for staff unprepared for such a move as well as renting accommodation for offices?

What is the 'sudden' benefit from this quick move that was not previously identified when the 3 year move plan was devised?

SPDC moved its HQ to PH, did it rush it through in 60 days? It was planned, well reasoned out and logical. Even Shell did not move all its offices out of Lagos but kept aspects that didn't require to be in PH in Lagos.

States like Lagos states will loose billions of Naira on Tax while Rivers will earn more on Internal Revenue.I commend the Government if they formulated this policy.

Re: NLNG Head-Quarters Moved To Port-Harcourt (From Victoria Island) by Beaf: 3 hours & 14 minutes

You are wrong. The Midwest was first invaded by Biafra, then the FG. Nobody bothered to ask us anything, talkless of us taking sides. Your story is just propaganda which might have been useful at the time, but is now as painful as any other false accusation. I don't see how Isoko's, Urhobo's, Itsekiri's, Ilaje's etc fought against Biafra, or even had the wherewithal to do so.

We were helpless spectators, whose lands were invaded by both sides.




jason123: 2 hours & 34 minutes
kettykin: The foolish Niger Deltans fought Against igbos for nought and were rewarded with exploited and oil populated and ravaged land only good for burying people


jason123:. . .And we will do it again if our lands are invaded without our permission! Foolish man (no disrespect to the Igbos)!


Beaf:

You are wrong. The Midwest was first invaded by Biafra, then the FG. Nobody bothered to ask us anything, talkless of us taking sides. Your story is just propaganda which might have been useful at the time, but is now as painful as any other false accusation. I don't see how Isoko's, Urhobo's, Itsekiri's, Ilaje's etc fought against Biafra, or even had the wherewithal to do so.

We were helpless spectators, whose lands were invaded by both sides.

jason123:Wrong!


In a manner reminiscent of the Vietcong in Vietnam, corpses of freedom fighters were recovered at great peril for burial, frustrating the Biafran units who had just engaged them in firefights. In the Siluko area, 50 Biafran soldiers (about half of a company) were drowned by a group of "Ijaw, Urhobo and Itsekiri swimmers" who lost 16 men in the fight.

Ogbemudia, S. O.: Years of challenge. Heinemann Educational Books, 1991.










Jason please keep correcting that fake niger-deltan before he sells a hard won victory to the okoros. Igbos, niger-delta gave u a ass wooping deal with dat and have ur biafra without south south na fight.

ndu_chucks:

Good, so what percentage of these flyers travel on a regular basis and why? If only a handful of them need to travel frequently because telephones, emails, other electronic communications devices are insufficient to meet their needs, why can't those employees relocate? Why move the whole head quarters.

Again I ask you, what percentage of the staff at the Lagos head quarters have to travel on a regular basis to necessitate this move. If you don't know, simply state so, we don't have to know everything.

I hope you are not supporting this move due to tribal interests? I await your sensible response.


@odumchi, are heavy trucks used in exploratory activities parked in Lagos?

The issue is that there is equipment thats stored in the HQ that can't be flown. Think of it this way:

Would you rather live a few hundred miles from your source of income and constantly worry about it's integrity? Or would you prefer to live a few minutes from it?

The problem i have with this beaf is the constant lie. The last time he was calling ACN are facist party but look at wat Jonasatan is doing, is it not facism? If he said, the Igbos want to be the hausa fulani and was fiercely defeated, thanks to the black scopion and likes. I for respect, but talking about okoros in the midwest invading the midwest na lie. Beaf no dey lie, learn from Jason 123.

^
It must really be sad being you.

debosky: Beaf is quite silly to be talking about underhand deals, when underhand deals are precisely behind the rushed move.

Would it have killed NLNG to remain in its current offices till 2013 when its permanent HQ would've been completed at Eastern bypass in PH?

Why rush through a decision to move in 60 days when the initial plan was 2 years - involving massive cost in renting accommodation for staff unprepared for such a move as well as renting accommodation for offices?

What is the 'sudden' benefit from this quick move that was not previously identified when the 3 year move plan was devised?

SPDC moved its HQ to PH, did it rush it through in 60 days? It was planned, well reasoned out and logical. Even Shell did not move all its offices out of Lagos but kept aspects that didn't require to be in PH in Lagos.

If not for underhand deals, they wouldn't have been in Lagos in the first place. Talking about their building being completed is neither here nor there. Bottomline is they were slated to move one way or the the other, whether 2012 0r 2013. Period.
I few less helicopter rides from Lagos will pay the rent anyway, so whats the big deal?

Business sense has been aknowledged, lets leave it at that and leave aside circular arguments.

Dunce.

kingoflag:

Lmaooo

He (Musiwa)used to be a teacher in Northern Nigeria (his own claims).

Now we know why that region is the way it is educationally.

But he might have been an Arabic teacher, in a village primary school; in which case a higher level of proficiency (than his own)in the use of English wouldn't have been necessary!

@ beaf Ya papa! Ya fada! u don hide finish? ideot.

odumchi:

The issue is that there is equipment thats stored in the HQ that can't be flown. Think of it this way:

Would you rather live a few hundred miles from your source of income and constantly worry about it's integrity? Or would you prefer to live a few minutes from it?

I would assume HQ mainly handles the business white collar aspect of LNG and not the manual labor side of LNG. BTW NLNG has offices in London and abuja too, the Abuja and london offices dont handles NLNG Equipment form 2000 miles away, Just like the former lagos HQ its white collar paperwork. They already have a supply base and LNG plant in river state prior to the move.

Beaf:

You are wrong. The Midwest was first invaded by Biafra, then the FG. Nobody bothered to ask us anything, talkless of us taking sides. Your story is just propaganda which might have been useful at the time, but is now as painful as any other false accusation. I don't see how Isoko's, Urhobo's, Itsekiri's, Ilaje's etc fought against Biafra, or even had the wherewithal to do so.

We were helpless spectators, whose lands were invaded by both sides.

E pele!

ndu_chucks:

Good, so what percentage of these flyers travel on a regular basis and why? If only a handful of them need to travel frequently because telephones, emails, other electronic communications devices are insufficient to meet their needs, why can't those employees relocate? Why move the whole head quarters.

Again I ask you, what percentage of the staff at the Lagos head quarters have to travel on a regular basis to necessitate this move. If you don't know, simply state so, we don't have to know everything.

I hope you are not supporting this move due to tribal interests? I await your sensible response.


@odumchi, are heavy trucks used in exploratory activities parked in Lagos?

ndu_chucks:

Good, so what percentage of these flyers travel on a regular basis and why? If only a handful of them need to travel frequently because telephones, emails, other electronic communications devices are insufficient to meet their needs, why can't those employees relocate? Why move the whole head quarters.

Again I ask you, what percentage of the staff at the Lagos head quarters have to travel on a regular basis to necessitate this move. If you don't know, simply state so, we don't have to know everything.

I hope you are not supporting this move due to tribal interests? I await your sensible response.


@odumchi, are heavy trucks used in exploratory activities parked in Lagos?

Ndu_chucks please close ur eyes, pretend this is the 1960s, cocoa is a major export earner for the country, and all operational, financial, contracting, employment, investment decisions are made in cocoa house located in kano!
Meanwhile the natural resourses are coming from the southwest...
Is it too much to ask for simple rational thinking here?

Beaf:

You gave dates and places, except you failed to give the dates and places that were invaded.
If not dishonesty, I don't know how you can invade someones land and turn around to accuse them of "betraying" you. It is people of your age that go around spreading these falsehoods to the younger ones like kettykin.

Please, let us forget this topic. There is nothing worse than being at the butt of someone else's false accusations.

This is one of the goofiest stuff I heard on NL. I have never accused anybody of betrayal. It was a war and certain people made decision to fight along side of certain people. All I have to say is for people to own up. The last time I checked though, the war was between Nigeria and Biafra. Those who termed themselves as Nigerians attacked those who termed themselves as Biafrans, hence civil war. It is disingenuously condescending for anybody to talk about “invasion of someone’s land” in the debate.

Nigerian forces attacked certain section of what was considered Biafra and the later also invaded certain section considered Nigeria. It is foolhardy for anyone to claim imaginary invasion.

There's nothing wrong with having a small liason office in lagos or abuja to interface with necessary political or economic connections but when you decide to run operational activities out of Lagos, handshake definitely don pass elbow.
I have often wondered how IOCs can allow tribal reasoning to supersede economic sense of allowing full operations close to the raw materials...then it occurred to me that the IOCs smartly avoid the undue financial exposure by passing this to the fg thru the JV..Clever accounting allows for this wastage...
I honestly believe that the fg needs to collapse it stake in the JVs..as one of the steps in the right direction....

DaLover:

Ndu_chucks please close ur eyes, pretend this is the 1960s, cocoa is a major export earner for the country, and all operational, financial, contracting, employment, investment decisions are made in cocoa house located in kano!
Meanwhile the natural resourses are coming from the southwest...
Is it too much to ask for simple rational thinking here?

Please do not close your eyes and invoke sentiments in order to make any business decision in real life. We are in the 21st century for goodness sake.

If you can come up with a business case for moving the HQ to Port Harcourt, let's hear it.

What are the specific business activities which take place at the Lagos HQ?

Dede1:


This is one of the goofiest stuff I heard on NL. I have never accused anybody of betrayal. It was a war and certain people made decision to fight along side of certain people. All I have to say is for people to own up. The last time I checked though, the war was between Nigeria and Biafra. Those who termed themselves as Nigerians attacked those who termed themselves as Biafrans, hence civil war. It is disingenuously condescending for anybody to talk about “invasion of someone’s land” in the debate.

Nigerian forces attacked certain section of what was considered Biafra and the later also invaded certain section considered Nigeria. It is foolhardy for anyone to claim imaginary invasion.

Will you EVER stop your Biafra war fallacies and half-truths?? We're bored of your lies and revisionism - and we accept Biafrans were the greatest army ever - are you happy now??

Stop derailing every darn thread - no one cares about Biafran war!!

I urge GEJ to move headquarters of all the crude oil related companies to PH. In addition, PH International airport should be expanded and remodeled while granting numerous landing rights to more than two air carriers

Beaf: ^
If not for underhand deals, they wouldn't have been in Lagos in the first place.

This just shows how STOOPID you really are. NLNG started as an idea in the 70s when Lagos was the seat of power - it was all about negotiating the deals required to get the project off the ground, so it is completely logical it would have to be in Lagos to start with. It is quite foolish of you to claim it is in Lagos because of underhand deals - mention just ONE underhand deal that led to its existence in Lagos.

Talking about their building being completed is neither here nor there. Bottomline is they were slated to move one way or the the other, whether 2012 0r 2013. Period.

You are a consummate retard to say this - making a move that should cost say $20m against one that cost $70m is neither here nor there? Has your entire generation ever understood the value of $1m not to talk of %50m for you to glibly state it is neither here nor there?

I few less helicopter rides from Lagos will pay the rent anyway, so whats the big deal?

You are too stoopid for words - kindly state the price of the alleged helicopter flights compared to rent. Resorting to blatant falsehoods to support idiotic decisions - I wouldn't expect anything less from the buffoon called Beaf.

Business sense has been aknowledged, lets leave it at that and leave aside circular arguments.

Business sense involves planning ahead for a move and doing it in a way that carries along your employees. Shell's plan to move was executed over a period exceeding 2 years and was smoothly done - however, because a certain MD was soon to retire and wanted to secure lucrative deals for his cronies and family members before retirement, he forced the move through in 60 days.

Being an adherent of corruption, I don't expect you to see the folly in this idiocy.

shymmex:

Will you EVER stop your Biafra war fallacies and half-truths?? We're bored of your lies and revisionism - and we accept Biafrans were the greatest army ever - are you happy now??

Stop derailing every darn thread - no one cares about Biafran war!!

It appears you are very allergic to truth. Anyway that is the strait of treachery to lookout in human beings. If you are not dumb already, you must be certainly blind because I did not introduce the Biafra plank to this debate, olodo mr detribalized

ndu_chucks:

Please do not close your eyes and invoke sentiments in order to make any business decision in real life. We are in the 21st century for goodness sake.

If you can come up with a business case for moving the HQ to Port Harcourt, let's hear it.

What are the specific business activities which take place at the Lagos HQ?

ndu_chucks:

Please do not close your eyes and invoke sentiments in order to make any business decision in real life. We are in the 21st century for goodness sake.

If you can come up with a business case for moving the HQ to Port Harcourt, let's hear it.

What are the specific business activities which take place at the Lagos HQ?

Ok we r in the 21st century but y should they even be in a place like Lagos when london and Johannesburg exist? Afterall they can operate remotely from anywhere abi? Stop ur colonial mentality..

Apart from the wAstage incurred by operating far from your raw materiAls, there's also the opportunities that are denied the locals.

Y do you think Americans are constantly worried about companies moving their operAtions abroad? Y don't the yanks hands in d air and say, after all they can operate remotely?

I had to go through dede1's profile - and this guy has 4258 posts. Out of the 4258 posts - this lunatic posted 4201 posts about Biafra smh...

Dede1, is Biafra the only thing you think, eat, and sleep? You need to let go, and move on . Support one Nigeria!