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Not A Fan Of Tinubu, But On This, I Support Him by TokunboCarsOnly: 2:48pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
I am not a fan of President Tinubu, and I am not sure I will ever be, but on the recent development especially his sacking of some persons and appointment of others especially people from his region I support him on this. Buhari set a very dangerous path as president. He will go down in Nigeria presidential history as the man who introduced, enthroned and established political nepotism. Buhari disregarded federal character, he didn't give a damn about the outcry that followed his lopsided appointments. Everywhere was Fulani that most Nigerians thought he wanted to fulanize Nigeria. From security agencies, to state house staff, custom and immigration, airports and seaports, anti graft agencies and NNPC. Even CBN leadership was not speared in his evil appointments. It was clear Buhari wanted to set Nigeria on fire if not for public restraints. A few reasonable Northerners called his attention to such injustice but the emperor Buhari never listened. He forget that life is turn by turn. He forgot that what goes around they say, will come around. He succeed in enthroning nepotism and after eight years he bowed out, today he is in Daura and he feels no remorse about his actions. If wishes were horses, Buhari would have still held sway over his appointees from his Daura home. Unfortunately, wishes are not horses. A new sheriff is in town and interestingly, the new sheriff was properly taught by Buhari how to run a tribal presidency, he is now reciprocating the same footsteps and it appears some Northerners are already feeling uncomfortable. Infact, recently, someone said to me that the way Tinubu is removing Northerners, that he may have issue with Northern cabals and I said cabals my foot. Where were the cabals when their son intitiated this demonic pattern of governance? No reasonable Northerners should even say a word in condemnation of Tinubu Yorubanization of power. Personally, I will not fault him. What was Buhari thinking when he did the same? Oh, that when a Southerner becomes president he should worship the North and dash them all the positions again like Buhari did? Hell No! The evil of tribal appointment has come to stay and the last we had it fair enough would be under Jonathan. So bravo Tinubu, on this nepotistic tendency, I stand with you gidigba. Let every region forever fill their own people. Kudos to Buhari for teaching Tinubu well. 1 Like |
Re: Not A Fan Of Tinubu, But On This, I Support Him by Zonefree(m): 2:52pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
What does the common man benefits in all these appointments? 3 Likes |
Re: Not A Fan Of Tinubu, But On This, I Support Him by Odin13: 3:00pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
Hope next another from south follow same pattern tomorrow.. tribal people and loud mouths won’t crucified the being .. Guess they will also see it as an established pattern that must be followed .. Any attempt to use media .. to cry and wail.. must be called what is it … satanic and evil Let’s all congratulate tinubu following buhari intently. |
Re: Not A Fan Of Tinubu, But On This, I Support Him by Nobody: 3:22pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
@OP. I can relate with your thinking. Buhari was a President who shocked Nigerians because of his overt and condemnable favouritism towards Fulanis he never never hid. Tinubu is very different. A Liberal man who wants the best for every Nigerian and understands, like Awolowo, that teaching a man to fish is the best approach to leadership rather than giving a man free fish alone he has no tools or capacity to catch himself. I personally think Tinubu ,unlike Buhari, is not pursuing any ethnocentric agenda but merely going with the best Nigeria has to offer. If his appointees are from a particular ethnic group and some Nigerians want to argue with their deployment, then let them fault the record of those individuals. For example, Buhari chose a charge and bail lawyer as AGF, in Malami. Tinubu, always aware of the need to use the best to get the best results, will not do such. Even if he deploys a Yoruba then expect that Yoruba to be a qualified individual, above reproach as a distinguished and top level lawyer, fitting to be be AGF. Not a dubious and undistinguished nobody like Malami whose appointment is an insult to the reality of how Nigeria parades the likes of Femi Falana, Fashola, Akeredolu, Agbakoba etal as very distinguished law practitioners. 1 Like |
Re: Not A Fan Of Tinubu, But On This, I Support Him by TokunboCarsOnly: 4:07pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
Grayoso: As much as I understand your position on this, I do not subscribe to the opinion that Tinubu is only after qualified people. That sounds like other regions don't have qualified people. Let's not bury the fact here, everyone is going tribal and I don't blame Tinubu for that. Like I said Buhari started it and Tinubu learnt well. Again, in leadership especially in very diverse country like Nigeria, it is important for every region to be represented. But let's not talk about that for now, Tinubu should just carry on with his appointments. 1 Like |
Re: Not A Fan Of Tinubu, But On This, I Support Him by TokunboCarsOnly: 4:11pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
Grayoso: As much as I understand your position on this, I do not subscribe to the opinion that Tinubu is only after qualified people. That sounds like other regions don't have qualified people. Let's not bury the truth please, everyone is going tribal and I don't blame Tinubu for that. Like I said Buhari started it and Buhari learnt well from him. Again, in leadership especially in very diverse country like Nigeria, given the increasingly sensitive nature of our political atmosphere, it is important for every region to be represented in the corridors of power. But let's not talk about that for now, Tinubu should just carry on with his appointments. |
Re: Not A Fan Of Tinubu, But On This, I Support Him by DoTheNeedful: 4:19pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
TokunboCarsOnly: Nepotistic tendency is subjective. It depends on who you ask. Just looking at the bolded, I could tell that you are either from SE or SS. The reason being that a lot of people believe that Jonathan's appointments favor the SE and SS very significantly. The last time appointments were fair was under Obasanjo. Even the late Yar'adua that a lot of people almost canonize today because he died in power gave most of his appointments to the Northerners to the extent of giving CBN position to Sanusi, a fellow Fulani man. Southerners have mostly been the CBN governors since 1960. |
Re: Not A Fan Of Tinubu, But On This, I Support Him by Nobody: 4:19pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
TokunboCarsOnly: The ends justifies the means so we will see if that saying will be true for Tinubu's modus operandi. I do agree with you about Buhari setting divisive and very painful precedences that have changed Nigeria forever. Buhari succeeded to show Nigerians 'one Nigeria' is a scam and curse those who are wise, ambitious and visionary will try to escape asap . |
Re: Not A Fan Of Tinubu, But On This, I Support Him by SpatialKing(m): 4:23pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
Grayoso: The painful part is South West were cheering and praising although the 8yrs beware bcause their son was the VP... Now same people want us to chock on every single policy Tinubu throws at us because he is there son... Sycophants |
Re: Not A Fan Of Tinubu, But On This, I Support Him by TokunboCarsOnly: 5:27pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
Zonefree: I have come across this question severally and for each time I shake my head. Everything will not benefit the common man in some sense, but some may in other sense. For example, do you know that those in power run the country? Do you know they can make policies that may favour a section and not others and that policy will come to stay unchallenged because they don't have enough human representation in government? That is why I laugh at people who think religion is not a big issue in Nigeria. Today we have Muslim- Muslim ticket. Take it or leave it there is religious intolerance in Nigeria. So what if tomorrow the Muslims in power decide to come up with a policy that will not allow christians hold services on Sunday vis a vis? At this point appointment has affected the common man. The point is, in a nation like Nigeria where there is high level of religious and tribal hate, we must encourage political appointments that accommodates all so when very sensitive policies that are targeted at some people are being taken they can have voices that can say yes of no for them. |
Re: Not A Fan Of Tinubu, But On This, I Support Him by ZonefreeAsshole: 5:28pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
Zonefree: Eyaa a common man like you with the miserable and wretched life Valid question |
Re: Not A Fan Of Tinubu, But On This, I Support Him by Nobody: 5:48pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
SpatialKing: Yorubas are normal and no worse than any other anywhere in the world and in fact better than most in several respect. They play politics like it is done worldwide. I.e a game of permanent interests. Especially for stakeholders who understand that if you fail to plan then you plan to fail. That then does not mean Yoruba are okay with Buhari's nepotistic misrule that led to even many preventable Yoruba fatalities because we supported him to be President hoping he would reciprocate the monumental effort from a political perspective. What Yoruba leaders, who could not read Buhari's mind, expected was for him to lead well on behalf of all Nigerians to then equitably and honorably support a Yoruba in future in the spirit of. "one good turn deserves another". You forget that Yorubas, when things started to go seriosuly wrong , fought Buhari, Malami etal exemplarily and unrelentingly to birth Amotekun, fight for VAT fairness for the south, insisted on State police and uncompromising demand for Regional governance etal that would prevent a Buhari happening again. Move on and stop sounding like a broken record. Tbe problem.with you guys is that you are always bitter, hateful, vindictive and reactionary. Men sometimes have to accept sh1t has happened and then move to fix wrongs rather than be lamenting about the past every damn day as if muscle still does not exist in the arms to improve the future. You guys are always fixated with hatefully and unprogressively living in the past. That is your main problem. Don't support Tinubu. That is your problem. If he succeeds it only damages the stock of Igbos further as a people who can never support what is best for Nigeria and never wishes the "Zoo" well. 2 Likes |
Re: Not A Fan Of Tinubu, But On This, I Support Him by TokunboCarsOnly: 6:12pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
Grayoso: I do not agree with a few points you made. First, do you know why I don't like to engage Yoruba people in political discussion? They are very good at changing the whole narrative. They paint pictures of issues that if you are not conversant with that topic you will think they are correct about it. For that singular reason I refrain from any form of debate with them. But for you, let me make a point. If you say Yorubas fought Buhari then you lie. Fought Buhari with what? Amotekun was not a national interest idea rather regional. So it was for SW interest. Secondly, you will agree with me that Jonathan regime was far better than Buhari. Yet, the SW who we assume controls the media used every means of the media and beyond to fight Jonathan with all forms of propaganda until Jonathan was removed. If you say the Yorubas fought Buhari, how many protest did they organize? How many SW controlled media even amplified any of Buhari policies to elicit public outcry like they did during Jonathan? For once, did you hear this same Tinubu condemn any of Buhari wrong moves? Let me not go into other points that you made that I don't consider accurate. The above points are enough to correct the impression that Yorubas fought Buhari. |
Re: Not A Fan Of Tinubu, But On This, I Support Him by Fulaninigger: 6:57pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
I would have written enough rebuttal, but I know I'll just be wasting my time since you perfectly know what your doing and the narrative you want to push! This is just another anti-north, hateful and antagonistic opinion the south love to have There is no difference between the appointments Buhari made and the one of GEJ, both followed the same pattern While Obasanjo's appointments were more widespread, 95% of his appointments from the north that make Muslim majority were Christians TokunboCarsOnly: |
Re: Not A Fan Of Tinubu, But On This, I Support Him by Fulaninigger: 7:02pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
There was nothing fair about Obasanjo's appointments, that's the lie you love to tell yourselves because his a fellow southerner 95% of northern appointments were giving to Christians, even in states that they were far minority Emefiele was GEJ CBN gov, Soludo was Obasanjo CBN gov.. So what's wrong with Yar'adua using Sanusi as CBN gov? DoTheNeedful: |
Re: Not A Fan Of Tinubu, But On This, I Support Him by Fulaninigger: 7:09pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
Lol so it's justifiable for Tinubu to appoint his kinsmen in all possible position because they are "competent". But it's wrong for Buhari to do it because you decide who is competent or not Bro, let Tinubu appoint his kinsmen as he dims fit, after all Buhari did it too.. But don't insult our intelligence or justify it with this competent bullshit! Grayoso: |
Re: Not A Fan Of Tinubu, But On This, I Support Him by SpatialKing(m): 8:32pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
Grayoso: Take it easy You sound pained I only stated the fact |
Re: Not A Fan Of Tinubu, But On This, I Support Him by Escapist(f): 8:45pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
Haters will be believers |
Re: Not A Fan Of Tinubu, But On This, I Support Him by DanAugust2021: 8:54pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
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Re: Not A Fan Of Tinubu, But On This, I Support Him by Ttalk: 9:11pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
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Re: Not A Fan Of Tinubu, But On This, I Support Him by Ttalk: 9:23pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
Grayoso: I disagree with you that Buhari set the precedence for nepotism, rather nepotism was enthroned into our body polity by Azikwe when was the president, and further stamped by Aguiyi Ironsi's military rule. Check the records of appointments given to Igbo as against other Nigerians during those periods. |
Re: Not A Fan Of Tinubu, But On This, I Support Him by Fulaninigger: 10:01pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
Lol leave the fool! Nigeria is full of hypocrites. We don't hate corruption and nepotism as long as it benefit our religion and tribe Almost all head of state/president practice nepotism as some point, but people cherry pick who to insult Ttalk: 1 Like |
Re: Not A Fan Of Tinubu, But On This, I Support Him by Ttalk: 10:26pm On Jun 21, 2023 |
Fulaninigger: There's always history to make reference to. The father of Nepotism in Nigeria is Azikiwe.
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Re: Not A Fan Of Tinubu, But On This, I Support Him by Nobody: 10:02am On Jun 22, 2023 |
SpatialKing: Not pained bro. Just progressive. Try to become more philosophical, humane and a lover of what is good about life. After that you will note you and others like you are aberrant. You can have strong and even bigoted views but the minute that crosses over into malevolence that means you no longer care for your own progress, and only want to see everything ruined so those you hate suffer or are discredited, is the minute you become no better than a brainwashed suicide bomber happy to take the life of those they have never met yet have cultivated murderous hatred for. That is what is overtaking your SE region today. Folks like you should focus more on deradicalising the hate that has been supplanted in the average Igbo for more than 6 decades now instead of coming online to show you are embodiments of that. 1 Like |
Re: Not A Fan Of Tinubu, But On This, I Support Him by Nobody: 10:12am On Jun 22, 2023 |
Fulaninigger: I don't care what you think. Tinubu knows what he is doing. That will soon be obvious to most Nigerians who don't appreciate that not everything can be stated publicly. |
Re: Not A Fan Of Tinubu, But On This, I Support Him by SpatialKing(m): 10:13am On Jun 22, 2023 |
Grayoso: You are actually the bigot here.. Based on indices and Statistics SE is doing well The region might not have the population but the region has been able to sustain herself although the years will little federal government support.. You lack any iota of progressivism stop quoting what you don't have |
Re: Not A Fan Of Tinubu, But On This, I Support Him by Nobody: 10:31am On Jun 22, 2023 |
Ttalk: We are saying the same thing but in regards to different eras. I am talking about our post 1999 era. Any Nigerian, with average intellect, and up to speed with history , will know Igbos have caused Nigeria the most grief factually even as they love to play victim when that, in itself, speaks volumes about their very irresponsible, clannish, tribalistic and bigoted character as a people. Read the interesting article from Reno Omokri below about how Igbo propaganda damages and confuses young Igbos to translate into what we are seeing today where every thread attacking anything Tinubu does on Nairaland, even if that is applauded by the entire world, is from an Igbo. What drives Igbos is essentially a megalomaniac need to control and subjugate others. When that is not possible, perhaps because others have abilities delusionally megalomaniac Igbos give them no credit for, they become disruptive, hateful, vindictive and worthless to their nations as citizens. The nepotism of Igbos is easy to explain. They hate others, cannot defer to anyone but a fellow Igbo and have no regards for non-Igbos. Nothing exemplifies this more than how Igbos who cursed Obi for "ruining" Anambra supported him blindly and vehemently just so an Igbo could preside over Nigeria and, in their opinion, make them the new owners and Sheriffs in charge of our nation. https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2023/06/20/the-biafran-anger-against-obafemi-awolowo My talk of Buhari's harmful nepotism is about the post 1999 era. We had a new democracy many, including Tinubu, valiantly fought to birth. Nigeria wanted to use our post 1999 democracy to show the world we had moved beyond, dictatorship, disregard for the rule of law, nepotism, gross inefficiency, illiteracy, savagery, brutality, ethnic cleansing, corruption etal. Buhari, more than all Presidents we have had since 1999 to include OBJ I personally do not care for, highlighted the fact we remain in a crude and feudal age with his open nepotism and partisan ethnocentric outlook thay brutally revealed the Nigerian Presidency is indeed overpowerful and can still be hijacked, in what is supposed to be a modern era, for crude, bigoted, ethno-supremacist and backward agendas. Yes Igbos have their issues but what Buhari facilitated was scary for a nation of many wonderfully educated and sophisticated people. We literally went back decades to prehistoric times when savages can rampage through civilised communities, kill , rape and maim everyone to then take over what the host community own. Law enforcement agencies would then look the other way because of "orders from above". Why do you think Yorubas were vehemently agitating for regional governance after that "dark' period? Typical of the ethnocentric chauvinism in operation during Buhari's presdiency was when the SW moved bravely, through their State houses of Assembly, to ban open grazing that was causing grave security issues and ethno-religious tension for Nigeria that could degenrate into a Rwanda-style crisis if unchecked. Malami, our AGF who is meant to be non-partisan and mean well for Nigeria and all Nigerians, crudely and arrogantly replied that a ban on open grazing is similar to telling Igbos not to trade spare parts across Nigeria. Is that the talk of an AGF, I assume his boss Buhari sanctioned, in a situation where Malami should automatically back what is best for Nigeria which, undoubtedly, is a ban on open grazing? Too many realities show that Buhari set the most damaging, ethno-supremacist and nepotistic precedence post our 1999 democracy. 1 Like |
Re: Not A Fan Of Tinubu, But On This, I Support Him by Nobody: 10:44am On Jun 22, 2023 |
SpatialKing: Okay. Let us see how things go under Tinubu. I personally will bet that you lot, once again as you have done several times in Nigeria's history, will disgrace yourselves as misguided and malevolent haters of Nigeria |
Re: Not A Fan Of Tinubu, But On This, I Support Him by Fulaninigger: 11:09am On Jun 22, 2023 |
I voted for Tinubu and I'm glad I did! But you can't insult our intelligence by trying to justify appointmenting his kinsmen, while admonishing Buhari for doing same. It's outright hypocrisy! Grayoso: |
Re: Not A Fan Of Tinubu, But On This, I Support Him by Nobody: 12:22pm On Jun 22, 2023 |
Fulaninigger: What Buhari owed Nigeria was a duty to appoint competent , patriotic and pro-Nigerian hands everywhere even if they are all Fulanis. Buhari should not deliver 'charge and bail' Malami as AGF and Minister of Justice in a nation boasting far more accomplished and internationally acclaimed legal.practitioners like Agbakoba, Ezekhome, Falana, Fashola, Akeredolu etal if he means well for Nigeria. Such appointment speak volumes of Buhari's nefarious agenda. I passionately supported and campaigned for Buhari because I believed Nigeria can never be well unless the North is well. I totally and passionately believed Buhari would be an Awolowo of the North who would prioritise the education of all children in the region especially the girl-child. I hoped he would abolish the redundant almajiri system. I believed, because of his reputation as a pro-talakawa leader, he would reduce the massive enrichment of the elite class that conversely created some of the poorest people in the world. l thought Buhari would prioritise the implementation of sympathetic family planning cultural and religious leaders, like Imams and Emirs, can be employed to sell to average Northerners as a developmental consideration that is not disrespectful of Islam etc, etc. Yet what did Buhari do other than the opposite of all that is listed above? He instead decided he must give the North fish rather than teach the North to fish so his name will be written in gold as is the name of Awolowo, Kwame Nkrumah and many African leaders who risked everything to birth fundamental changes they know will transform the fortunes of their people forever. Buhari failed because some exploited his view, held by a lot of Northern leaders, that the North is poor and backwards because of the machinations of the South. This is the bane of Nigeria's existence. I.e a people who can never take responsibility for their actions and must always blame others for their woes. Buhari began listening to and empowering corrupt, radical and fundamentalist elements who sold him the concept of how the North can only move forward with massive and corrupt enrichment of the region even if that will be to the detriment of other regions of Nigeria. The collapse of the value of the Naira against major currencies of the world, a cynical profiteering ruse that the evil Emefiele supervised, is an example of how Buhari was prepared to damage Nigeria to empower the North. In the end, all Buhari achieved is leaving Nigeria in a mess and setting the North back 30 years. If you can prove Tinubu is making unmeritorious Malami-type appointments , to further a "Yorubanisation" agenda, then bring your evidence here. Let us see where Tinubu, as an example, ignored the far superior Falana to give Nigeria the underwhelming unknown and abjectly mediocre Malami. |
Re: Not A Fan Of Tinubu, But On This, I Support Him by SpatialKing(m): 1:14pm On Jun 22, 2023 |
Grayoso: Actually, your definition of disgrace or hate for Nigeria is people not Tinubu and APC party since 2015.. So because you support Tinubu and APC makes you a lover of Nigeria.. That's bullsh*t bro Guess what If you like conduct the elections 50 times SE will never vote APC in block. Not supporting APC does not translate to hating Nigeria Being an opposition does not translate to hating Nigeria Stop being a bigot Everybody most not support Tinubu and his anti-masses policies... |
Re: Not A Fan Of Tinubu, But On This, I Support Him by SpatialKing(m): 1:16pm On Jun 22, 2023 |
Grayoso: Grayoso: Actually, your definition of disgrace or hate for Nigeria is people not Tinubu and APC party since 2015.. So because you support Tinubu and APC makes you a lover of Nigeria.. That's bullsh*t bro Guess what If you like conduct the elections 50 times SE will never vote APC in block. Not supporting APC does not translate to hating Nigeria Being an opposition does not translate to hating Nigeria Stop being a bigot Everybody most not support Tinubu and his anti-masses policies... |
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