TajuDEENaMao:

You think we don't know who you are?

I know you and your family members

Be warned

Stoplying:
Nobody migrated from Ife, you guys should stop with all these fairytales which are not backed with any evidence.

The Oni of Ife is not an emperor, he is just the monarch of a small village called Ife. These fairytales were made for political reasons. It is time to stop taking the people for fools.

Stoplying:

I literally have a book written in the colonial era which states clearly that Yebou is a vassal of Benin.
I don't do tribalism, that is your thing.
You keep making claims but you have no evidence to back your claims.
I provided you with a Precolonial map, and you are calling me a tribal bigot ?
https://uniquemaps.eu/products/rare-old-map-of-africa-1747-by-emanuel-bowen-pre-colonial-handcoloured-slave-trade-negroland-ethiopia-barbary-nubia

Providing evidence makes me a historian (though not my job), not a tribal biggot. You however with no evidence, you keep repeating tribal propaganda.

Christistruth03:
The Ijebu Royal families are from Ile Ife though they met some aborigines in the area who had gotten there before the 10th Century
It was they who built the Eredo Sugbo Earthworks which was dated to the ,9th Century

There is a Claim that the Aboriginal Ijebu, the Kanuri of Borno and some Sudanese Tribes had very Similar Tribal Marks and considered themselves relatives

Many Ijebu still migrated from Ile Ife though like the Ijebu Ife People


The Ijebu,Akoko ,Ilaje,Owu,Ijesha ,Ekiti were all considered to be of the ,Igbo Heritage they were the People Oduduwa's group met at Ile Ife

Oduduwa's settler group appeared to be more related to the Nupes ,Kanuri, Gobir People whose ancestors had also migrated from the Sudan Area but after the Ugbo People who had settled in the SW long before Oduduwa Settlers arrived , though Oduduwa was said by Prof Akinbanji to have been born near ife he was from a Settler group that was more related to the Nupes than the Aboriginal Ugbo

Wahabfuture:





Pure lies from the pit of hell, I married to an Ijebu-ode woman, Ijebus came from Sudan, I don't know why you people like to twist everything, I am 100% sure you have never been to Ijebu. spit

Padipadi:

Are you now saying your evidence is better?
Don't derail this thread.

In this map you displayed, other notable kingdoms weren't displayed. Is this a customised one for Benin or what?
Moreso, you seem to be from Benin.

Stoplying:

My origin is irrelevant as I present evidence which doesn't care about my origin.
The map was published in 1747 and it was made by people who witnessed that era of time, unless you have magical powers to know better than them what you did not witness and which they did witness, you have to change the way you think in order to adapt to reality rather than changing reality in order to adapt to the way you think.

This guy dared ask me if the precolonial map was costume made for Benin 🤣

Cooletempa:


This old foolish benin man is still hating on yorubas.

Padipadi:

How can a map of Africa of 1747 not have Oyo empire?

Stoplying:

Because there was never an oyo empire to start with !
It is just very strange that you rather dismiss hard evidence than dismiss your unsubstantiated beliefs.
Oyo was a small kingdom.
You are supposed to look for precolonial maps to see when its existence started, not to already have a belief and dismiss Precolonial maps for not validating your beliefs.

TajuDEENaMao:
Whenever you read the account of the Ijebu people about their origin they usually insist they are not from Ile-Ife, as history presents it.

They always trace their history to Sudan.

Let’s tell you more about their account as contained in brochures emanating from Awujale’s palace in Ijebu-Ode. See their account below.

Lying mainly in the deciduos forest region of Nigeria, Ijebu is bounded on the east by the Ondo territory, on the West by the Egba territory, on the South by the Lagos and the North by Ibadan. Apart from its capital town of Ijebu-Ode, the principal towns are Abigi, Ago-Iwoye, Arijan, Ejinrin, Epe, Idowa, Ikorodu, Ijebu-Igbo, Ijebu-Ife, Ijebu-Irnushin, Ikenne, Iperu, Ilishan, Imobi, Isara, Iwopin, Isiwo, Ode, Omu, Owu-Ijebu, and Sagamu.

The Ijebu who called themselves the ‘whitemen of the interior’ occupied a central position among the states of the Yoruba speaking people of Western Nigeria. But the name Yoruba was previously applicable only to the Oyo whose kingdom, as years went by, became so powerful as to include several of the other kingdoms. Indeed, until the latter part of the nineteenth century the non-Oyo never accepted the designation of Yoruba.

The bulk of Yoruba people regard Ijebus as peripheral Yorubas, while the Ijebu themselves do not hide the fact that the cohesion between them and others who call themselves central Yoruba has been the result of cultural and political interaction over the centuries. Time itself has taken care of these legends as the various groups of people in western Nigeria have come to accept common nationality as Yoruba; be they Ekiti, Ijesha, Egba, Ondo, Ijebu etc. even among the Ijebus, there are conflicting claim to the source of origin depending on the political intention of those concerned,

Stoplying:

Because there was never an oyo empire to start with !
It is just very strange that you rather dismiss hard evidence than dismiss your unsubstantiated beliefs.
Oyo was a small kingdom.
You are supposed to look for precolonial maps to see when its existence started, not to already have a belief and dismiss Precolonial maps for not validating your beliefs.

https://uniquemaps.eu/products/rare-old-map-of-africa-1747-by-emanuel-bowen-pre-colonial-handcoloured-slave-trade-negroland-ethiopia-barbary-nubia

Gajagojo:

Who drew this map?

Padipadi:

Ok. Cos there was never a Benin too. It was a kingdom that Ife people trained their artisans bronze that got into limelight cos of 1897 British invasion.
If you can distort history, yours too ll be distorted. Your map is a fake map.


To add to this, every tribe, tom dick and harry now believe they can say trash about Yorubas. Are you all mad?
E fe sofo ni?
Are Yorubas the cause of your misfortunes?
Everyone is enduring Nigeria so don't put mouth in others business/history/politics.

Stoplying:

Emanuel Bowen.

Gajagojo:

On what basis?
Did he ever visit Oyo?
You need to free your mind from colonial mentality

Gajagojo:

What is Negroland?

Stoplying:

You are just a fanatic. I brought you evidence, a map drawn by Emanuel Bowen and published in 1747

https://uniquemaps.eu/products/rare-old-map-of-africa-1747-by-emanuel-bowen-pre-colonial-handcoloured-slave-trade-negroland-ethiopia-barbary-nubia

You guys are not better than boko haram, you are just as fanatical.

Stoplying:

1. On the basis of visiting Africa and making maps.
2. I think you should rather ask yourself what form oyo had back then, if you look at the example of Abeokuta, you will see that Abeokuta didn't exist yet, it was created around 1830.
3. What does the map have to do with colonialism?

Cooletempa:


This old foolish benin man is still hating on yorubas.

Stoplying:

You have eyes just like me, I too wasn't born in 1747.
Things were very different back then.
https://uniquemaps.eu/products/rare-old-map-of-africa-1747-by-emanuel-bowen-pre-colonial-handcoloured-slave-trade-negroland-ethiopia-barbary-nubia

Gajagojo:

The land was the same in 1747 It has not increased since 1747

Gajagojo:

The problem folk like you have is you have no concept of a who you are that is not defined in colonial or European terms

Gajagojo:

Imagine arguing based on a map of your homeland in 1747 drawn by a person who never went there.

Gajagojo:

Free your mind of the shackles. Of

Oyinbo talk am so it must be so