I did not make this video, neither am i taking credit for it, i came across it while searching for something else one youtube.
It shows how the Roman Catholic Created Islam to conquer Jerusalem and some other truth about the Roman Catholic which i find to be true, i remember the same Romans killing the disciples/followers of Jesus Christ, anyway, just watch and learn.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZYnwKP6LsQ&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL6622ADE5AB22C153

The Only thing you need to do is read your BIBLE (THE HOLY BIBLE, KJV Preferable), God bless y'all

yeah. right. to relegate Jesus and his mother, Mary to ordinary citizens of the world.

I hear all the protestants lying on the catholic, thinking that will dampen the brilliance of islam.

the christians in general should try harder.

Did the Vatican Create Islam?

The Vatican wanted to create a messiah for the Arabs. Someone they could raise up as a great leader, a man with charisma whom they could train, and eventually unite all the non-Catholic Arabs behind him, creating a mighty army that would ultimately capture Jerusalem for the pope.

In the Vatican briefing, Cardinal Bea told this story:

"A wealthy Arabian lady who was a faithful follower of the pope played a tremendous part in this drama. She was a widow named Khadijah. She gave her wealth to the church and retired to a convent, but was given an assignment. She was to find a brilliant young man who could be used by the Vatican to create a new religion and become the messiah for the children of Ishmael. Khadijah had a cousin named Waraquah, who was also a very faithful Roman Catholic and the Vatican placed him in a critical role as Muhammad's advisor. He had tremendous influence on Muhammad.

Teachers were sent to young Muhammad and he had intensive training. Muhammad studied the works of St. Augustine which prepared him for his "great calling." The Vatican had Catholic Arabs across North Africa spread the story of a great one who was about to rise up among the people and be the chosen one of their God.

While Muhammad was being prepared, he was told that his enemies were the Jews and that the only true Christians were Roman Catholic. He was taught that others calling themselves Christians were actually wicked impostors and should be destroyed. Many Muslims believe this.

Muhammad began receiving "divine revelations" and his wife's Catholic cousin Waraquah helped interprete them. From this came the Qur'an. In the fifth year of Muhammad's mission, persecution came against his followers because they refused to worship the idols in the Kaaba.

Muhammad instructed some of them to flee into Abysinnia where Negus, the Roman Catholic king accepted them because Muhammad's views on the Virgin Mary were so close to Roman Catholic doctrine. These Muslims received protection from Catholic kings because of Muhammad's revelations.

Muhammad later conquered Mecca and the Kaaba was cleared of idols. History proves that before Islam came into existence, the Sabeans in Arabia worshipped the moon-god who was married to the sun-god. They gave birth to three goddesses who were worshipped throughout the Arab world as "Daughters of Allah." An idol excavated at Hazor in Palestine in 1950's shows Allah sitting on a throne with the crescent moon on his chest."

"Muhammad claimed he had a vision from Allah and was told "You are the messenger of Allah." This began his career as a prophet and he received many messages. By the time Muhammad died, the religion of Islam was exploding. The nomadic Arab tribes were forming forces in the name of Allah and his prophet, Muhammad. Some of Muhammad's writings were placed in the Qur'an, others were never published. They are now in the hands of high ranking holy men (Ayatollahs) in the Islamic faith.

When Cardinal Bea shared with Rivera in the Vatican, he said, these writings are guarded because they contain information that links the Vatican to the creation of Islam. Both sides have so much information on each other, that if exposed, it could create such a scandal that it would be a disaster for both religions.

In their "holy book", the Qur'an, Christ is regarded as only a prophet. If the pope was his representative on earth, then he also must be a prophet of God. This caused the followers of Muhammad to fear and respect the pope as another "holy man".

"The pope moved quickly and issued bulls granting the Arab generals permission to invade and conquer the nations of North Africa. The Vatican helped to finance the building of these massive Islamic armies in exchange for three favours:

1. Eliminate the Jews and Christians (true believers which they called infidels).

2. Protect the Augustinian Monks and Roman Catholics.

3. Conquer Jerusalem for "His Holiness" in the Vatican.

As time went by, the power of Islam became tremendous -- Jews and true Christians were slaughtered, and Jerusalem fell into their hands. Roman Catholics were never attacked, nor were their shrines, during this time. But when the pope asked for Jerusalem, he was surprised at their denial! The Arab generals had such military success that they could not be intimidated by the pope -- nothing could stand in the way of their own plan.

Under Waraquah's direction, Muhammad wrote that Abraham offered Ishmael as a sacrifice. The Bible says that Isaac was the sacrifice, but Muhammad removed Isaac's name and inserted Ishmael's name. As a result of this and Muhammad's vision, the faithful Muslims built a mosque, the Dome of the Rock, in Ishmael's honour on the site of the Jewish temple that was destroyed in 70 AD. This made Jerusalem the second most holy place in the Islam faith." To be continued.

"The pope realised what they had created was out of control when he heard they were calling "His Holiness" an infidel. The Muslim generals were determined to conquer the world for Allah and now they turned towards Europe. Islamic ambassadors approached the pope and asked for papal bulls to give them permission to invade European countries.

The Vatican was outraged, war was inevitable. Temporal power and control of the world was considered the basic right of the pope. He wouldn't think of sharing it with those whom he considered heathens.

The pope raised up his armies and called them Crusades to hold back the children of Ishmael from grabbing Catholic Europe. The Crusades lasted centuries and Jerusalem slipped out of the pope's hands.

Turkey fell and Spain and Portugal were invaded by Islamic forces. In Portugal, they called a Mountain village "Fatima" in honour of Muhammad's daughter, never dreaming it would become world famous.

Years later when the Muslim armies were posted on the islands of Sardinia and Corsica, to invade Italy, these was a serious problem. The Islamic generals realised they were too far extended. It was time for peace talks. One of the negotiators was Francis of Assisi.

As a result the Muslims were allowed to occupy Turkey in a "Christian" world, and Catholics were allowed to occupy Lebanon in the Arab world. It was also agreed that the Muslims could build mosques in Catholic countries without interference as long as Roman Catholicism could flourish in Arab countries.

Cardinal Bea told Alberto Rivera in Vatican briefings that both the Muslims and Roman Catholic agreed to block and destroy the efforts of their common enemy, Bible believing Christian missionaries. Through these concordats, satan blocked the children of Ishmael from knowledge of Scripture and the truth." To be continued.
"A light control was kept on Muslims from the Ayatollah down through the Islamic priests, nuns and monks. The Vatican also engineers a campaign of hatred between the Muslim Arabs and the Jews. Before this, they had co-existed peacefully. The Islamic community looks on the Bible-believing missionary as a devil who brings poison to the children of Allah. This explains years of ministry in those countries with little results. The next plan was to control Islam.

In 1910, Portugal was going socialistic. Red flags were appearing and the Catholic Church was facing a major problem. Increasing numbers were against the church. The Jesuits wanted Russia involved, and the location of this vision at Fatima could play a key part in pulling down Islam to the Mother Church. In 1917, the Virgin appeared in Fatima. "The Mother of God" was a smashing success, playing to overflow crowds, as a result, the Socialists of Portugal suffered a major defeat.

Roman Catholics world-wide began praying for the conversion of Russia and the Jesuits invented the Novenas to Fatima which they could perform throughout North Africa, spreading good public relations to the Muslim world. The Arabs thought they were honouring the daughter of Muhammad, which is what the Jesuits wanted them to believe. As a result of the vision of Fatima, Pope Pius XII ordered his Nazi army to crush Russia and the Orthodox religion and make Russia Roman Catholic.

A few years after he lost WWII, Pope Pius XII startled the world with his phoney dancing sun vision to keep Fatima in the news. It was great religious show biz. and the world swallowed it. Not surprisingly, Pope Pius was the only one to see this vision. As a result, a group of followers has grown into a Blue Army world-wide, totalling millions of faithful Roman Catholics ready to die for the blessed virgin.

The Jesuits have their Virgin Mary scheduled to appear four or five times in China, Russia and major appearance in U.S. Our Lady's appearances at Fatima marked the turning point in the history of the world's 350 million Muslims.

After the death of his daughter, Muhammad wrote that she "is the most holy of all women in Paradise, next to Mary." He believed that the Virgin Mary chose to be known as our Lady of Fatima as a sign and a pledge that the Muslims who believe in Christ's Virgin birth, will come to believe in His divinity.

Bishop Sheen pointed out that the Pilgrim virgin status of Our Lady of Fatima were enthusiastically received by Muslims in Africa, India and elsewhere, and that many Muslims are now coming into the Roman Catholic Church."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItUFdlDMA4I

This was the reason they had to silence Alberto Riveria, because he had known too much of their secrets.

am waiting on NL Muslims to watch the video and comment

@Olaadegbu; I thank Allah that Youtube actually have the videos playing. I just watched all of them. I know that Alberto Rivera has a cartoon about the Jews used to making Hajj to Makka and stopped when the idols were introduced.

As a cartoon freak, could you post the cartoon[s], please, mehn?

To the protestants and catholic and jews; if I have ever known a cocktail of lies, it is this very video series and the stories in them.

What I am happy about though is that the christian protestants at least say that salvation is of the jews. I am hereby wondering what are the jews doing in Kaaba, calling it Tabernacle of the Lord, stopping their pilgrimage only when idols entered its precinct? what was their reason for accepting it the Tabernacle of the Lord in the first place? Who built it and how did they understand it as a sanctuary of the Lord, His Tabernacle?


Do the christians hold the same view that Kaaba is the Tabernacle of the Lord? Please explain, somebody?


Am I the only one who saw the videos as a lack of sequence documentary, introducing Muhammad [as] not only in the period of his lifetime, but even making a belief in the hearts of those who are ignorant that Muhammad lived to see the crusade period to Jerusalem! Muhammad [as] died at age of 63 in say 633! Islam had not even entered the whole of arabia, then.

Allah answered the accusation of the accusers that Muhammad [as] was taught by a living soul of what is in the Quran, by Allah saying "even that the revelation of Quran is authentic arabia?" and many other verses including the tongue of who they say was the teacher was foreign, since some say the jews and or the christians were his teachers. While in many verses what the OT and NT did not contain, Quran does. And each is correct. A case in point is where Quran in Surah Hud says the Ark of Noah rested.

One wonders what role did Waraqah played, when he died in the first year of a 23 year revelation, even at the end of it Muhammad was called Unlettered, still? a lack of reading or writing ability which he demonstrated at the truce of Udabiyyah which he entered to with pagan Makka, then the letters written earlier and later periods of islam where he only dictated them and endorsed them by stamping them with his ring signet.

The whole of Christianity and others, as long as you are not muslims are Kafirun, without any exception. Though the Christians and Jews are known as people of the book, it is only an identity, making them known in the body of the kafirun still. There is never anytime they are known as believers, unless those of them who reverted to Islam thereby being called Muslims, like any muslim.

It is ironic that Muhammad [as] and his followers [ra] destroyed the idols of arabia, while moon god stature was found in Palestine, a placed controlled by Jews and Christians, until the opening of jerusalem and the influx of Islam in this place in the time of the second Caliphate reign of the man known as Umar bin Khattab [ra]. Note that all idols have been destroyed in Makka in the lifetime of the Prophet [as]. And never a time the muslims introduce idol of any kind into their Islamic life. Muslims mock idolatry, always. So who is the owner of the moon god, between the christians who idolize the cross and the jews who in their book even King Solomon the wise worshiped idols of foreign nations, instead of worshiping Yahweh?


We have been saying the christians are dirty in their tactics of maligning Islam. the catholic is claimed to be undermining the children of Isaac. the catholic is later claiming to be undermining the break away protestant. They are using the muslims to do their bidding, but no one paid attention that the christian catholic sect killed muslims and sacked them out of spain over 500 years ago. yet, protestants are undermining the catholic and must introduce the muslims into the whole struggle. We in islam do not need to align with either of you, except to remind you that you have shed too much blood. both of you are greed driven and irresponsibly so much so that the christian created a man losing his life, acting similarly in the manner of the jewish "scapegoat atonement scheme". Yet not all christian will enter paradise because some of you, Jesus will disown.


the honesty of islam is very comforting that i have no doubt that the child Abraham attempted to sacrifice was Ishmael, his only son, being the first son, alive, until after the death of Abraham. Additional proofs are that Muslims are honest to give due honor to Mary, calling her the best woman in the world; how more important can making Ishmael the sacrificed son, if he was not? Finally, the jews used to make hajj to the Kaaba. part of the rite of hajj is the sacrifice. were the children of Israel thinking isaac, when every arabs before paganism was thinking Ishmael? we know Muhammad [as] did not change the name of isaac where ever it is legitimately belonging, since he is a muslim prophet named Isiaq?

In the Quran the story of sacrifice was concluded with 'and we gave Ibrahim [as] additional son as announced' and in another verse 'we added Isiaq and the grandson Yaqub after it'. a one guaranteed that must be a father can not be killed before he became a father. it will be opposite of what is expected.

In all, I am grateful to Allah for the life of Muhammad [as] and all who believed in Islamic Monotheism, starting from Adam [as] through history. Christianity lost big time. We already know that Judaism lost when they refused to follow Jesus son of Mary, their nations' massiah [as].


Allah has covered us with His Mercy and Forgiveness by raising up Muhammad [as] for the final message to all creation. You don't want it; tough. Its here. Get used to it.

@Olaadegbu; please get me the Cartoon; the part where it is stated the jews used to make pilgrimage to Kaaba.
I know you are a cartoon freak.

I want it for my collection.

Sweetnecta:

@Olaadegbu; I thank Allah that Youtube actually have the videos playing. I just watched all of them. I know that Alberto Rivera has a cartoon about the Jews used to making Hajj to Makka and stopped when the idols were introduced.

As a cartoon freak, could you post the cartoon[s], please, mehn?

To the protestants and catholic and jews; if I have ever known a cocktail of lies, it is this very video series and the stories in them.

What I am happy about though is that the christian protestants at least say that salvation is of the jews. I am hereby wondering what are the jews doing in Kaaba, calling it Tabernacle of the Lord, stopping their pilgrimage only when idols entered its precinct? what was their reason for accepting it the Tabernacle of the Lord in the first place? Who built it and how did they understand it as a sanctuary of the Lord, His Tabernacle?


Do the christians hold the same view that Kaaba is the Tabernacle of the Lord? Please explain, somebody?


Am I the only one who saw the videos as a lack of sequence documentary, introducing Muhammad [as] not only in the period of his lifetime, but even making a belief in the hearts of those who are ignorant that Muhammad lived to see the crusade period to Jerusalem! Muhammad [as] died at age of 63 in say 633! Islam had not even entered the whole of arabia, then.

Allah answered the accusation of the accusers that Muhammad [as] was taught by a living soul of what is in the Quran, by Allah saying "even that the revelation of Quran is authentic arabia?" and many other verses including the tongue of who they say was the teacher was foreign, since some say the jews and or the christians were his teachers. While in many verses what the OT and NT did not contain, Quran does. And each is correct. A case in point is where Quran in Surah Hud says the Ark of Noah rested.

One wonders what role did Waraqah played, when he died in the first year of a 23 year revelation, even at the end of it Muhammad was called Unlettered, still? a lack of reading or writing ability which he demonstrated at the truce of Udabiyyah which he entered to with pagan Makka, then the letters written earlier and later periods of islam where he only dictated them and endorsed them by stamping them with his ring signet.

The whole of Christianity and others, as long as you are not muslims are Kafirun, without any exception. Though the Christians and Jews are known as people of the book, it is only an identity, making them known in the body of the kafirun still. There is never anytime they are known as believers, unless those of them who reverted to Islam thereby being called Muslims, like any muslim.

It is ironic that Muhammad [as] and his followers [ra] destroyed the idols of arabia, while moon god stature was found in Palestine, a placed controlled by Jews and Christians, until the opening of jerusalem and the influx of Islam in this place in the time of the second Caliphate reign of the man known as Umar bin Khattab [ra]. Note that all idols have been destroyed in Makka in the lifetime of the Prophet [as]. And never a time the muslims introduce idol of any kind into their Islamic life. Muslims mock idolatry, always. So who is the owner of the moon god, between the christians who idolize the cross and the jews who in their book even King Solomon the wise worshiped idols of foreign nations, instead of worshiping Yahweh?


We have been saying the christians are dirty in their tactics of maligning Islam. the catholic is claimed to be undermining the children of Isaac. the catholic is later claiming to be undermining the break away protestant. They are using the muslims to do their bidding, but no one paid attention that the christian catholic sect killed muslims and sacked them out of spain over 500 years ago. yet, protestants are undermining the catholic and must introduce the muslims into the whole struggle. We in islam do not need to align with either of you, except to remind you that you have shed too much blood. both of you are greed driven and irresponsibly so much so that the christian created a man losing his life, acting similarly in the manner of the jewish "scapegoat atonement scheme". Yet not all christian will enter paradise because some of you, Jesus will disown.


the honesty of islam is very comforting that i have no doubt that the child Abraham attempted to sacrifice was Ishmael, his only son, being the first son, alive, until after the death of Abraham. Additional proofs are that Muslims are honest to give due honor to Mary, calling her the best woman in the world; how more important can making Ishmael the sacrificed son, if he was not? Finally, the jews used to make hajj to the Kaaba. part of the rite of hajj is the sacrifice. were the children of Israel thinking isaac, when every arabs before paganism was thinking Ishmael? we know Muhammad [as] did not change the name of isaac where ever it is legitimately belonging, since he is a muslim prophet named Isiaq?

In the Quran the story of sacrifice was concluded with 'and we gave Ibrahim [as] additional son as announced' and in another verse 'we added Isiaq and the grandson Yaqub after it'. a one guaranteed that must be a father can not be killed before he became a father. it will be opposite of what is expected.

In all, I am grateful to Allah for the life of Muhammad [as] and all who believed in Islamic Monotheism, starting from Adam [as] through history. Christianity lost big time. We already know that Judaism lost when they refused to follow Jesus son of Mary, their nations' massiah [as].


Allah has covered us with His Mercy and Forgiveness by raising up Muhammad [as] for the final message to all creation. You don't want it; tough. Its here. Get used to it.

I think your blinded

^^^^ "I think you're blinded" you said?

since i am not conforming to christianity, i must be blind.

i beg say something else.

you can't even refute the Children of israel your bosses making hajj before.

I am not sure that ISLAM was deliberately created by the Catholics , but one thing is for sure, they both look alike and both have Pagan beginnings.


In my opinion these are the great false religions of our day :

1. Islam
2. Judaism
3. Catholicism

In your opinion.

The annexed video's 57th minute tell us how Christian in Spain reeked destruction on the Moor, the Muslim Spain. I didn't see anything about what Alberto Rivera's lionization of protestant christianity is proven.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PM8HnvuKbAo&NR=1

and in the opinion of dreamer Islam is a sister of pagans, Judaism, Catholic, where as the reality is that protestants can't shake off its daughter mother relation with mother catholic.


can anyone locate for me the cartoon where the information about Jews making Hajj to Kaaba is illustrated?

I guess the children of Jacob can't get away from paganism or is it truly the Tabernacle of the Lord in Makka?

Some people will weep so much in this winter that the tears will cause frost bites on their faces. Islam is the reason the are going to cry because their efforts will be zero against it.

Catholism=Islam,nothing new.

^^ sisi lepa.

lepasharon. na wa for you o. we in islam are free of all of y'all christians; catholic or protestants and others. you are all the same.

Wow so catholics created Islam. That's a great thing.

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If Catholicism is devilish, why not just be a part of one of the other 35000 christian shops. At the end of time we'll find out which church Jesus founded and which ones men founded.

italo:

If Catholicism is devilish, why not just be a part of one of the other 35000 christian shops. At the end of time we'll find out which church Jesus founded and which ones men founded.

These are pictures of Pope John Paul II kissing the Koran (The Catholic Invention) and receiving blessing from a pagan goddess

The cross here is the normal crucifiction cross of Jesus Christ, notice the one the Pope is holding, its a bent cross and also notice the one on his seat, its upside down
Question, why is the cross upside down and why is he (The Pope) holding a bent cross?
And if they call the upside down/inverted cross the cross of Peter, are they worshiping Peter? and why will they bend the cross of Jesus Chris which the pope always hold?

Sweetnecta:

^^ sisi lepa.

lepasharon. na wa for you o. we in islam are free of all of y'all christians; catholic or protestants and others. you are all the same.

I wonder what you mean by free because last time i checked, Islam was created by the Catholic, your Prophet did not perform any Miracle, he died and did not rise, he killed, committed so many other atrocities and that is whom you follow, i still wonder what you mean by FREE.

Sweetnecta:

^^ sisi lepa.

lepasharon. na wa for you o. we in islam are free of all of y'all christians; catholic or protestants and others. you are all the same.

Am not saying your blind or something, no, many people has been misled, am not judging anyone, i understand, Jesus Christ told his disciples this parable in Mark 4:12

"That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them."

and the bible also said this "My people perish from a lack of knowledge" in Hosea 4: 6 (KJV)

I am not a CHRISTIAN, am simply a FOLLOWER OF CHRIST, i go to church whenever i want to, but a day has not gone by without me reading THE HOLY BIBLE, i have finished reading the whole of NEW TESTAMENT and i have come to believed in my LORD and Personal Savior, JESUS CHRIST.

I will urge every Christian to be a FOLLOWER OF CHRIST, READ THE BIBLE daily and you also will understand.

Every Christian in this world owns a bible, some own two others four but 90% of them don't know what is writing in the bible, they look up to their pastor, pope, bishop, reverend father to explain to them, READ THE BIBLE, READ THE BIBLE, READ THE BIBLE, he who has ears, let him hear. Matthew 11:15

But Jesus didn't tell anybody to write anything and he didn't mention anything about the Bible. The Bible was created by the Catholic Church so why are you reading it?

frosbel:

I am not sure that ISLAM was deliberately created by the Catholics , but one thing is for sure, they both look alike and both have Pagan beginnings.


In my opinion these are the great false religions of our day :

1. Islam
2. Judaism
3. Catholicism

shut up fool. you are stating oxymorons. how can islam and catholicism have Pagan roots

both were created as[b] Pagan-killing machines[/b]. One destroyed the vast Pagan populations of Europe, The Americas and Africa. The other killed the Pagan peoples of Arabia, Africa, South Asia, etc.

how can the murderer be the same as the murdered.

as for your second statement, it is true:

The[b] three evils religions [/b] / or the evil trinity are:

Christianity (protestant/catholicism,etc)
Judaism
islam

Sweetnecta:

@Olaadegbu; please get me the Cartoon; the part where it is stated the jews used to make pilgrimage to Kaaba.
I know you are a cartoon freak.

I want it for my collection.

Read how Islam is connected to RCC in the tract below.

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0040/0040_01.asp

i see why olaadegbu is a kufar; he fails to follow instruction.

i asked you to get me the tract that shows children of israel performing hajj to maaka.

instead i received rcc/mary and muslim. come on.

frosbel:

I am not sure that ISLAM was deliberately created by the Catholics , but one thing is for sure, they both look alike and both have Pagan beginnings.

Islam came to birth out of the rejection Arabian had with the version of the fiction that was spread by the Roman catholic church.

There was a philosopher born out of the heart of the middle east who openly expressed reservations about the story of the bible to his fellow scholars and how the text demonised everyone except a particular group of people; but instead of him to outrightly condemn the works as a falsity that it is, he instead sought to re-invent a brand new form of the same fiction but this version instead favoured his own people. This is said to be the reason why you can hardly distinguish the quran from the bible.

And yes his name was also Muhammed


btw you only need to check the history of Europe and much of the Arabian history to see that idol-worshiping is what these peoples did(do) best.

These are the voices of a billion sparkling stars as they reject the nonsense; ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. Ones school-of-thought is determined by ones geographical inheritance, there is NO short cut. Its either we face the truth NOW or forever keep our peace.

For days, months and years we have invested all our spirituality into false HOPES and ASPIRATIONS. When common sense dictates that the only TRUE aspiration is one that which can actually be achieved in its entirety.

There is so much to learn about ourselves and surroundings yet we are being taught NOT to think; what kind of psychology beats continuity.

We dont need to be saved by anyone or anything because God has already given that to us countless times and i dont see that stopping anytime soon.

We dont need to repent because We are NOT a guilty people.

We are NOT waiting for a white or tanned man to come an eliviate US from suffering because thats just NONSENSICAL if a white or tanned man was going to descend from the skies to eliviate anyone, the first people on the list would be those that look like HIM. Its not discrimination, its common sense.

We dont need to face anywhere during petition but our immediate solvable problems.

We dont need salvation because we were saved the day we were allowed into the world

All the ethics and moral philosophy we need to navigate the planet Earth is already present in our OWN psychology.

Our ancestors, heroes and saviours deserve nothing more than the best reception.

What is the point in living for somebody elses GOAL.

There is so much work to be done, and yet little effort awarded to a course.

Let us invoke the spirit of OUR ancestors, in everything that we partake, We need to operate as if our world has been stolen and we AIM to re-take it.

We have to snap out of this daze that we are in, it is us; we are the LIGHT of OUR world nobody else.

the quran keep making references to the bible with some changes in the name of great men in the bible but the bible never made any reference to quran.the quran was edited from the bible to suit the islamic faith.the bible was written by 40 different men in a period of over 1500 years.the quran was written by how many men?and in a period of , Years?the only basis of comparism that would ve existed between the bible and the quran was if both holy books were written at the same time to enable the future generation to compare and contrast the events took place during the time of recording.the bible remains the oldest religious book in the history of mankind and the quran can attest to that.my message is believe in whatever you believe but no religion should be judgemental towards the others.peaceout

al-Ilah claims in
numerous verses that all Jewish
prophets are believers in Islam
and demands that those Jewish
prophets were ‘Muslims’. But the
problem here is that, al-Ilah did
not specify who those Jewish
prophets were, leaving his
believers in darkness forever.
There is no complete list of these
Jewish prophets in the Quran, let
alone the proof of their ever
being ‘Muslim’—that too, before
the Quran was revealed or
invented? Are those Jewish
prophets, not mentioned in the
Quran (but mentioned in the
Jewish/Christian scriptures),
were ever a part of al-Ilah’s
Scripture or were they just
figment of Muhammads’
imaginations or just hoax? How
did those Jewish prophets ever
know about al-Ilah or
Muhammad or Islam as a
religion, which would later on
come to the world. (Indeed, the
Quran did not exist until 786 CE,
154 years after Muhammad's
death in 632, when the Quran
was complied as a religious
book. see “The Invention of
Islam”). Moses and Jesus was
recorded by their followers/
Apostles, who lived with them
(and the Quran/al-Ilah have the
cheeks to claim the Bible is all
corrupted!!!); and there is not a
single acceptable historical
record of any Jewish Prophet(s)
of ever having been a Muslim.
Just a claim that they were
'Muslim' does not necessarily
make them ‘Muslim’, does it? It's
a silly, laughable claims at best;
the world must be wondering
why Islam makes such hideous
and preposterous claim on
Jewish Prophets like Abraham,
Noah, Moses, etc. These stupid
assumptions even astound the
Christians as well. Jews are so
passionate of their Jewishness
that the majority of them don’t
even accept Jesus as a Jew. This
is just because, Jesus tried to
reform Judaism by shedding
some of the barbaric Jewish
beliefs of the previous era, such
as stoning for adultery, which
Islam has blindly copied and
Muslims are following till today.
By copying those Mosaic codes,
al-Ilah and Muhammad had
thought that the Jews would
embrace Islam easily. But did it
happen or would it ever? It’s not
even remotely possible. All these
facts make it crystal-clear that al-
Ilah, Muhammad and the Quran
are plain and simple lies: Islam is
a completely fake. Period!

^^^^ the way this daylae writes is boring and frustrating.
If The Tabernacle of the Lord is in Makka and no one can dispute it, I wonder
what kinda evidence you want that Islam has not produced?

@Polokor60: It is kinda of changing the requirements when you talk about the OT and NT, from when you talk about Bible and the Quran.
Why are you not using the same logic about their periods of writing and how many people that wrote them?
Take OT and NT as one issue. apply the above premises to know which is true.

Then take the Bible [OT and NT [remember that these 2 are fight above?]] and the Quran as the other issue. apply the above premises to know which is true.

polokor60:

the quran keep making references to the bible with some changes in the name of great men in the bible but the bible never made any reference to quran.the quran was edited from the bible to suit the islamic faith.the bible was written by 40 different men in a period of over 1500 years.the quran was written by how many men?and in a period of ,  Years?the only basis of comparism that would ve existed between the bible and the quran was if both holy books were written at the same time to enable the future generation to compare and contrast the events took place  during the time of recording.the bible remains the oldest religious book in the history of mankind and the quran can attest to that.my message is believe in whatever you believe but no religion should be judgemental towards the others.peaceout 

Yes, i see you've done your homework and are quite converse in ancient religion; however, in front of the bare TRUTH , a piece of expensively decorated cardboard will always be found wanting, especially when it involves in the acquisition of false knowledge.

I'm afraid i beg to differ; my reservation is not diected towards which of the two cults have been around the longest but your admission that the bible is the oldest religious book doesnt credit to its sources. It is NOT however the oldest religious text. 

The bulk of the stories that feature in these two books were borrowred from African philosophies, the majority being Kemet.

@ poster.

if i may ask:

what is your objective for the post?
do you have genuine and acceptable reason(s) for the post?
do you intend learning about the origins of the religions or you just want to start another endless and useless strings of comments?

This is to all of you responding: be careful how you run your mouths against what you do not have establishable facts about.
For example:

yeah. right. to relegate Jesus and his mother, Mary to ordinary citizens of the world

by Sweetnecta

you can't even refute the Children of israel your bosses making hajj before

by Sweetnecta

Catholism=Islam,nothing new

by lepasharon

I wonder what you mean by free because last time i checked, Islam was created by the Catholic, your Prophet did not perform any Miracle, he died and did not rise, he killed, committed so many other atrocities and that is whom you follow, i still wonder what you mean by FREE.

by mail4gift2

and so many incriminating senseless babblings made by people just simply because of their hatred for the other religion.

My question to you guys is "what is your religion teaching you?". Is it to hate others as long as they do not agree with your beliefs? How can you convince me that what you believe is worth accepting if you run your mouth wild as you guys are doing

Learn to be accommodating and tolerant cos you might just be killing the guy that would have saved you in the future with your mouth

oloriooko:

@ poster.

if i may ask:

what is your objective for the post?
do you have genuine and acceptable reason(s) for the post?
do you intend learning about the origins of the religions or you just want to start another endless and useless strings of comments?

This is to all of you responding: be careful how you run your mouths against what you do not have establishable facts about.
For example:
by Sweetnecta
by Sweetnecta
by lepasharon
by mail4gift2

and so many incriminating senseless babblings made by people just simply because of their hatred for the other religion.

My question to you guys is "what is your religion teaching you?". Is it to hate others as long as they do not agree with your beliefs? How can you convince me that what you believe is worth accepting if you run your mouth wild as you guys are doing

Learn to be accommodating and tolerant cos you might just be killing the guy that would have saved you in the future with your mouth

The only reason i started this thread is because am sick of people (mostly my Muslim Friends) comparing Christianity and Islam, i was force to do this research and post this here just to seek other peoples opinion about this.

I have read both the quoran and the Bible and i know what is what and which is which, i don't compare my religion to any other religion and same time i can not stand and watch people talk about what they do not know, the argument between Christianity and Islam is like saying Chealsea is better than Manchester United without clarifying which aspect.

This, is my reason