gameova:
You've got jokes

I absolutely do not joke when it comes to Jesus Christ.

Kobojunkie:
Huh? What has Nicodemus's status as Teacher of Law in Israel to do with this?

John 3 v 16

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life

What does Nicodemus have to do with this passage?

gameova:
Okay thanks

hope you got it?.

gameova:
Good afternoon Nairalanders. Challenges in my life right now is making me Lose faith in God ( that's if he even exist) I've served since 2017. Ever since I've been jobless. Can't even afford basic feeding or necessities. 32 years , no wife, job , business, nothing. Still depending on my aged mum's pension. I remember when i was afire for "God" . Spoke in tongues, did evangelism, a prayer warrior. But what did I get in reward, shame and disappointment. Honestly I'm tired and can't continue living like this. I think I'm better off dead. Let me go and protest to God himself.

Change your Church. Come to The LORD'S Chosen Headquarters. and attend in our branches. God will settle you.
He has made many people who came to Chosen with abject poverty to be rich. I was so overwhelmed of the number of people that testifed last month how God took them from abject poverty to riches.

EMILO2STAY:
hope you got it?.

I just saw it now. Thanks alot. God bless you. I'm Soo greatful.

gameova:
I just saw it now. Thanks alot. God bless you. I'm Soo greatful.

your welcome!!

gameova:
John 3 v 10
■For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life
■What does Nicodemus have to do with this passage?

1. John 3 vs 10 is about Nicodemus.

2. What has God giving Eternal Life to all those who will choose Jesus Christ to do with this now?

Kobojunkie:
1. John 3 vs 10 is about Nicodemus.

2. What has God giving Eternal Life to all those who will choose Jesus Christ to do with this now?

he meant John 3:16

Kobojunkie:
1. John 3 vs 10 is about Nicodemus.

2. What has God giving Eternal Life to all those who will choose Jesus Christ to do with this now?

Sorry mistake. I meant John 3:16. my bad. Corrected

Hardy123:
he meant John 3:16

Yes

gameova:
Sorry mistake. I meant John 3:16. my bad. Corrected

Ok, so what has Eternal life which God has made available to all in the Kingdom of God whether going to Heaven or Hellfire at the end, to do with this discussion?

Thanks for sharing

Have you considered that maybe you've listened to some false "gospel" that teaches that "true" believers are supposed to be exempt from challenges?

Challenges are a part of life here on Earth. Everyone alive is facing one challenge or another

Thank GOD you're alive

Thank GOD you have access to data

Thank GOD you have a device connected to the Internet.

So many things to thank GOD for.

I believe GOD can help you to start making better use of what He has already given you

Praying for you

Thanks again and GOD bless you

gameova:
Good afternoon Nairalanders. Challenges in my life right now is making me Lose faith in God ( that's if he even exist) I've served since 2017. Ever since I've been jobless. Can't even afford basic feeding or necessities. 32 years , no wife, job , business, nothing. Still depending on my aged mum's pension. I remember when i was afire for "God" . Spoke in tongues, did evangelism, a prayer warrior. But what did I get in reward, shame and disappointment. Honestly I'm tired and can't continue living like this. I think I'm better off dead. Let me go and protest to God himself.

werisetogether:
■ Thanks for sharing. Have you considered that maybe you've listened to some false "gospel" that teaches that "true" believers are supposed to be exempt from challenges? Challenges are a part of life here on Earth. Everyone alive is facing one challenge or another
■ Thank GOD you're alive. Thank GOD you have access to data. Thank GOD you have a device connected to the Internet. So many things to thank GOD for.I believe GOD can help you to start making better use of what He has already given you. Praying for you. Thanks again and GOD bless you.

While I agree he has been fed a false gospel all the while, I believe it is equally a false gospel that proclaims that since believers also face challenges, they should expect to experience much the same challenges as the pagans and unbelievers do.

Yes, Jesus Christ promised His followers challenges but He assured them that those challenges would not overwhelm them and that they would have His peace which surpasses all things to comfort them through it all. OP sounds like one who has already already overwhelmed and he doesn't seem like one who has peace in his situation either meaning what he is passing through is not a part of what was promised by Jesus Christ.

2. Everything you listed the unbelievers and pagans equally boast of and they don't even acknowledge God let alone wake to thank Him for even the sun. So if your situation is exactly same as that of the unbelievers, pray tell, how can you say you are in fact one or God's?

Thanks for your input

Not sure I understand your point though

But thanks anyway

Kobojunkie:
While I agree he has been fed a false gospel all the while, I believe it is equally false gospel that proclaims that since believers also face challenges in much the same way that the pagans and unbelievers do.

Yes, Jesus Christ promised His followers challenges but He assured them that those challenges would not overwhelm them and that they would have His peace which surpasses all things to comfort them through it all. OP sounds like one who has already already overwhelmed and he doesn't seem like one who has peace in his situation either meaning what he is passing through is not a part of what was promised by Jesus Christ.

2. Everything you listed the unbelievers and pagans equally boast of and they don't even acknowledge God let alone wake to thank Him for even the sun. So if your situation is exactly same as that of the unbelievers, pray tell, how can you say you are in fact one or God's?

werisetogether:
Thanks for your input. Not sure I understand your point though. But thanks anyway.

I apologize. I updated my previous post.

□ Jesus Christ said those who belong to Him will not lack. Op is complaining of lack. How can anyone who lacks be said to be of Jesus Christ?

□ The challenges that Jesus Christ said His followers will have to endure are nothing like that the unbelievers and pagans experience regularly. Telling OP that challenges are promised is not of God since only a certain type of challenges apply.

□ Op is currently experiencing the same sort of challenges that unbelievers and pagans experience regularly. Why then should He thank God for or in it when it is not God's plan for His own?

gameova:
Good afternoon Nairalanders. Challenges in my life right now is making me Lose faith in God ( that's if he even exist) I've served since 2017. Ever since I've been jobless. Can't even afford basic feeding or necessities. 32 years , no wife, job , business, nothing. Still depending on my aged mum's pension. I remember when i was afire for "God" . Spoke in tongues, did evangelism, a prayer warrior. But what did I get in reward, shame and disappointment. Honestly I'm tired and can't continue living like this. I think I'm better off dead. Let me go and protest to God himself.

Why do y'all bother a lot about something that cannot be definitive like a god?.. Why don't you focus more on things that can be productive to your life.


See, whether or not God exist, you will succeed if you plan well and be a persistent person. If you are in Lagos, I can teach you a skill that will fetch you money.

gameova:
Thanks for the response. It's appreciated. But for how long will i wait?

Don't bother. All these will not work. They never have for you have already made the one big mistake 99% of church goers make which is in never listening to God.

You listened to parents, family, pastors, friends, even enemies but you never listen to God.

And the bible is written for only those who truly want to hear God.

Sorry, i have to use you for an example for this very thing has been happening since 1970 and should we reach 3033, another you will still say this same thing.

EMILOSTAY you are only killing him faster in saying this. It does not work.

Workch:
Why do y'all bother a lot about something that cannot be definitive like a god?.. Why don't you focus more on things that can be productive to your life.


See, whether or not God exist, you will succeed if you plan well and be a persistent person. If you are in Lagos, I can teach you a skill that will fetch you money.

Thanks for your contribution. I'm a christian and a believer in God that's the reason. God gives me a reason to go on when things seem unbearable with suicidal thoughts creeping. But right now i don't know anymore.

I'm not in Lagos but can't it be taught virtually? Please I really need it

gameova:
Thanks for your contribution. I'm a christian and a believer in God that's the reason. God gives me a reason to go on when things seem unbearable with suicidal thoughts creeping. But right now i don't know anymore.

I'm not in Lagos but can't it be taught virtually? Please I really need it

it really cannot be taught virtually.
Sincerely

gameova:
Good afternoon Nairalanders. Challenges in my life right now is making me Lose faith in God ( that's if he even exist) I've served since 2017. Ever since I've been jobless. Can't even afford basic feeding or necessities. 32 years , no wife, job , business, nothing. Still depending on my aged mum's pension. I remember when i was afire for "God" . Spoke in tongues, did evangelism, a prayer warrior. But what did I get in reward, shame and disappointment. Honestly I'm tired and can't continue living like this. I think I'm better off dead. Let me go and protest to God himself.

I'll attend to this on a fresh thread.

gameova:
Good afternoon Nairalanders. Challenges in my life right now is making me Lose faith in God ( that's if he even exist) I've served since 2017. Ever since I've been jobless. Can't even afford basic feeding or necessities. 32 years , no wife, job , business, nothing. Still depending on my aged mum's pension. I remember when i was afire for "God" . Spoke in tongues, did evangelism, a prayer warrior. But what did I get in reward, shame and disappointment. Honestly I'm tired and can't continue living like this. I think I'm better off dead. Let me go and protest to God himself.

O.P lemme give you something to reason with. However! Advice is a visitor, you can either receive it or send it away.

I've come across stories like yours several times on this forum, but there was one guy that really moved me.

He also prayed, fasted, emptied his account on seeds sowing and had a terminal disease, yet, the same god refused to heal him or make him prosper. I guess the guy is dead now.
I'll find the thread and I'll share the link so you can see.

There were two other guys who also gave tithes, singlehandedly built churches individually but are now so poor that they can't afford complete square meal daily.

No one can truly understand what you are going thru. Some "I too Know", "Holiest of Holies", "God's P.A" will try to guilt trip you by saying "Are you serving God for material things?".

They would forget to use their sense that this is a material word, so you need material things to survive.

People die because they couldn't afford just ₦10,000 for treatment, people die of sickness because they couldn't afford clean water, people die of famine.

If truly that God who sent you into this material word refused to bless you with material things, to me it seems like a king who sent an army of soldiers to war without any weapon. How would they survive? Isn't that tantamount to madness?

If people who didn't serve God are prospering more than those who serve him under the guise that God rains on both those who serve him and those who serve him not, then what's the advantage of serving God then?

Many people would come here to make you feel like you don't have faith enough or you are rebellious but ,don't mind them. Some will even tell you they've been thru worse yet they didn't waver.

They refused to understand that pains are in levels, a malaria patient is going thru pains, but he can never understands the pain of someone at last stage cancer.

Don't people die from pain? Don't people commit suicide?

Some will also come here with excerpts from the Bible and they'll start spewing rubbish.

My question to them is, "is it working?".
Have you ever seen manna fall from heaven?

Those things don't work in real life. Forget all those stories in the Bible, this is reality.

Has any of those things in the Bible ever worked for you

You've been doing the same thing for the past 32years and still no results.
Anything that lacks result or proof is fake, where is the proof of your faith in a living god?

It's either that God doesn't exist or he doesn't care about you. Mind you what's the point is rating a god who doesn't rate you.

There is no god out there that will save you. You are on your own.
If you refused to realise this early, 20 years you will be more broken. "You are all you have to save yourself". No god has ever been evident.

Hundreds of thousands of kids are dying yearly in Somalia and you think there is a god?

Christians die the same way Muslims and Atheists die and other religions.

Dr. Myles Munroe (the supposed great man of God) died in a crash but several Atheists died in their homes, a very painless and honourable death.

Nigerians pray more and they are pained the more.

So regardless whether you pray, fast, hit your head on the rock or cut yourself like the prophets of Baal . There is no god out there to grant your wishes.

You have to start taking charge of your life. No imaginary sky daddy will do that for you.

You can watch out for my upcoming thread, I promise you. It will open many people's eyes.
You can also check my threads on religious topics. I promise you'll gain one or two.

Welcome to freedom.

Kobojunkie:
I apologize. I updated my previous post.

□ Jesus Christ said those who belong to Him will not lack. Op is complaining of lack. How can anyone who lacks be said to be of Jesus Christ?

□ The challenges that Jesus Christ said His followers will have to endure are nothing like that the unbelievers and pagans experience regularly. Telling OP that challenges are promised is not of God since only a certain type of challenges apply.

□ Op is currently experiencing the same sort of challenges that unbelievers and pagans experience regularly. Why then should He thank God for or in it when it is not God's plan for His own?

This really makes a whole lots of sense

FRANCISTOWN:


O.P lemme give you something to reason with. However! Advice is a visitor, you can either receive it or send it away.

I've come across stories like yours several times on this forum, but there was one guy that really moved me.

He also prayed, fasted, emptied his account on seeds sowing and had a terminal disease, yet, the same god refused to heal him or make him prosper. I guess the guy is dead now.
I'll find the thread and I'll share the link so you can see.

There were two other guys who also gave tithes, singlehandedly built churches individually but are now so poor that they can't afford complete square meal daily.

No one can truly understand what you are going thru. Some "I too Know", "Holiest of Holies", "God's P.A" will try to guilt trip you by saying "Are you serving God for material things?".

They would forget to use their sense that this is a material word, so you need material things to survive.

People die because they couldn't afford just ₦10,000 for treatment, people die of sickness because they couldn't afford clean water, people die of famine.

If truly that God who sent you into this material word refused to bless you with material things, to me it seems like a king who sent an army of soldiers to war without any weapon. How would they survive? Isn't that tantamount to madness?

If people who didn't serve God are prospering more than those who serve him under the guise that God rains on both those who serve him and those who serve him not, then what's the advantage of serving God then?

Many people would come here to make you feel like you don't have faith enough or you are rebellious but ,don't mind them. Some will even tell you they've been thru worse yet they didn't waver.

They refused to understand that pains are in levels, a malaria patient is going thru pains, but he can never understands the pain of someone at last stage cancer.

Don't people die from pain? Don't people commit suicide?

Some will also come here with excerpts from the Bible and they'll start spewing rubbish.

My question to them is, "is it working?".
Have you ever seen manna fall from heaven?

Those things don't work in real life. Forget all those stories in the Bible, this is reality.

Has any of those things in the Bible ever worked for you

You've been doing the same thing for the past 32years and still no results.
Anything that lacks result or proof is fake, where is the proof of your faith in a living god?

It's either that God doesn't exist or he doesn't care about you. Mind you what's the point is rating a god who doesn't rate you.

There is no god out there that will save you. You are on your own.
If you refused to realise this early, 20 years you will be more broken. "You are all you have to save yourself". No god has ever been evident.

Hundreds of thousands of kids are dying yearly in Somalia and you think there is a god?

Christians die the same way Muslims and Atheists die and other religions.

Dr. Myles Munroe (the supposed great man of God) died in a crash but several Atheists died in their homes, a very painless and honourable death.

Nigerians pray more and they are pained the more.

So regardless whether you pray, fast, hit your head on the rock or cut yourself like the prophets of Baal . There is no god out there to grant your wishes.

You have to start taking charge of your life. No imaginary sky daddy will do that for you.

You can watch out for my upcoming thread, I promise you. It will open many people's eyes.
You can also check my threads on religious topics. I promise you'll gain one or two.

Welcome to freedom.

Thank you very much sir. I'm becoming very much enlightened now. All you said can't be debated cos it's truth. Awaiting the thread.

gameova:
Thank you very much sir. I'm becoming very much enlightened now. All you said can't be debated cos it's truth. Awaiting the thread.

And you wonder why you are depressed and wish to die. Anyway, its your affliction.

Dtruthspeaker:


And you wonder why you are depressed and wish to die. Anyway, its your affliction.

Bro but what he said is not far from the truth. One has to take charge of life without waiting for a supreme being to help. It's making Nigerians lazy without inventions. Most of the things we complain about is completely non existent in developed countries. Despite all our prayers we are still were we are. I still believe in God but i don't think he interfers directly in our affairs.

Nlfpmod

Workch:
it really cannot be taught virtually.
Sincerely

How long could the teaching last?

gameova:
Bro but what he said is not far from the truth. One has to take charge of life without waiting for a supreme being to help.
It's making Nigerians lazy without inventions. Most of the things we complain about is completely non existent in developed countries. Despite all our prayers we are still were we are. I still believe in God but i don't think he interfers directly in our affairs.

Were you not in charge of your life since? Are you not still in charge of your life now? If it was working you would not be complaining and lamenting here.

And how many Nigerians can you point out that truly believe in God?

Nigerians belief in God is just stinkingly empty and in the mouth only for "He does not believe that does not live according to his belief." Thomas Fuller.

So, if you are not living according to God, then you do not believe in God.

Your belief is somewhere else. Its as simple as that.

gameova:
Good afternoon Nairalanders. Challenges in my life right now is making me Lose faith in God ( that's if he even exist) I've served since 2017. Ever since I've been jobless. Can't even afford basic feeding or necessities. 32 years , no wife, job , business, nothing. Still depending on my aged mum's pension. I remember when i was afire for "God" . Spoke in tongues, did evangelism, a prayer warrior. But what did I get in reward, shame and disappointment. Honestly I'm tired and can't continue living like this. I think I'm better off dead. Let me go and protest to God himself.

You have to face reality. Spiritual gymnastics isn't enough, even the Bible says work n pray. What values have you added to yourself skillwise since you graduated? Go out there and WORK, find problems you can provide solution to and people are willing to pay you for, prayers and fasting won't put food on your table.

Kobojunkie:
Ok, so what has Eternal life which God has made available to all in the Kingdom of God whether going to Heaven or Hellfire at the end, to do with this discussion?

It's not about works but faith in the finished work of Christ on the cross.

Dtruthspeaker:


Were you not in charge of your life since? Are you not still in charge of your life now? If it was working you would not be complaining and lamenting here.

And how many Nigerians can you point out that truly believe in God?

Nigerians belief in God is just stinkingly empty and in the mouth only for "He does not believe that does not live according to his belief." Thomas Fuller.

So, if you are not living according to God, then you do not believe in God.

Your belief is somewhere else. Its as simple as that.

So how can l "live according to God?" Please explain clearly cos I don't understand you.

gameova:
So how can l "live according to God?" Please explain clearly cos I don't understand you.

The journey for you is now very very far, very very long and very very hard which is what happens to people your age.

But i believe that if you are truly tired of your present life and you want it to change that you would do everything, no matter how painful for its going to get more painful and more worse because Satan is going to make sure that it does and this is good news for if this does not happen then it means that God is totally finished with you and there is nothing anyone can do (Remember the door no one can open when God shuts it? Hope, its not your case)

And if you still have to chance then since you went to church then you should know where to start.