eGuerrilla:

While pouring opprobrium on this particular effort, spare a thought for the children whose future are blighted by the LRA

You're wasting your time. He and his fellow band of dolts do not care a whit about African children.

texazzpete:

See, this is why i despise you nutbag consipracy theorists masquerading as Pan-Africanists.
We NEVER see you dogs talk about the Desecrates in Congo, the genocide in Darfur or the killings and mutilations carried out by the LRA. All you dolts care about is pontificating about the 'CIA', 'american hegemony' and 'warmongering'.

You people do not care about Africans or Africa. Black suffering to you louts is just another tool to lay blame that the door of the 'imperialists'. You sicken me!

You that care about African children, how come you dont know that NATO is using depleted Uranium in the bombing of Libya and think of he future effect when the guns stop blazing. Do you know the number of children that have been killed in the ongoing Siege of Sirte and 8 months non stop bombing by the democracy peddlers led by Obama the change advocate?

Yes imperialists are coming back to Africa, now they have Ivory Coast where Ouatara got to power by stepping on the corpses of thousands of Ivoriens led by French bombers with Nigeria constantly being used to pass every veto against Africa as a member of the UNSC. America supported the dictator Museveni in circunventing the constitution on term limits and did not attack him for cracking down on protesters. Remember that GEJ convoy killed one of he protesters when he went to Kampala for the inauguration of Museveni.

When brothers are at war you dont use more wars to solve the problem and sell your weapons.

Obama has been all war war war! I wonder what he has done to deserve a NOBEL Peace Prize?

NATO aka the Ku Klux Klan in planes are busy dropping white phosphorous and depleted uranium on black libyans from the air as we speak, and their infantry the NTC are busy rounding up black people on the ground  taking them to slaughter houses and beheading them like animals - all of this being done under Obama's authorisation and yet some people think this latest development in Uganda is somehow being done for the benefit of africa?  what kind of brain do we have as africans

has anyone heard of AFRICOM? or is it just me?  this is the preliminary stage of AFRICOM citing troops all over the african continent - you really think the US gives a shi.t about some ugandand rebel leader  called Kony? if they didnt give a shi.t about 800,000 people being slaughtered in rwanda why would they give a sh.it about the so called massacres that they claim this guy has carried out on ugandans?

if they couldnt give a sh.it about african migrant workers being rounded up and beheaded and disembowelled by the NTC why woudl they give a f.ck about ugandans?

an entire town inhabited by 30,000 black libyans was ETHNICALLY CLEANSED by the NTC - why hasnt NATO said anything about that? why hasnt amnesty international said anything about that, why hasnt human rights watch said anything about that?


OBAMA'S HANDIWORK IN LIBYA:

[flash=300,300]http://www.youtube.com/player/v/zCj5EMC8RG4[/flash]

SARKOZY AND OBAMA'S HANDIWORK IN IVORY COAST:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6g03HItPQc&feature/related[/flash]

@eGuerrilla

I had major problems with the US's wholesome intervention in Libya, but this is quite different.
What proof do you have that Obama, who happens to be half-African, harbours an inherent dislike the continent, eh?

Do you know how much havoc the LRA has wrought in Central Africa these past 20 years, and the human cost involved?
And while you are at it, please explain how your vehement opposition in this instance is premised or anything more than a feeling of being slighted, simply because there have been state-visits to other continents Angry

State visits do have great significance. You can read more about it. Secondly, Black Libyans and other Black Africans "including your Nigerian brothers are being killed with impunity by those so called "rebels" everyday. Has he come out to strongly condemn it?

— The Libyan capital saw its first major gunbattle since Moammar Gadhafi fled Tripoli more than two months ago, as his supporters traded fire with revolutionary forces after a crowd raised the ousted regime's green flag.

Fearing more attacks, anti-Gadhafi fighters set up checkpoints manned by young, armed men across the metropolis of some 2 million people, snarling traffic. They also rounded up several suspected African mercenaries, pulling them from cars and houses.

Friday's violence in Tripoli and fierce resistance on two other fronts set back the new rulers' stated goals of declaring total victory and establishing democracy as Gadhafi, the ruler for nearly 42 years, remains on the run.

The capital has been relatively calm since then-rebels swept into the city in late August. But Gadhafi's loyalists have control of parts of his hometown of Sirte and the desert enclave of Bani Walid and have fought off NATO-backed revolutionary forces besieging them for weeks. Gadhafi has tried to rally his supporters with several audio recordings issued from hiding.

The firefight in Tripoli began after Friday prayers. Witnesses said dozens of loyalists carrying the green flag appeared on a square in the Abu Salim neighborhood, which has long been a pro-Gadhafi stronghold and houses a notorious prison of the same name.

"I looked out of my window and I saw men and women in a group of 50 to 80 people, carrying the green flag," said Abadi Omar, a resident in one of the buildings in the area. "They put one of these flags at the end of our street. This is when the revolutionary forces came out and these people disappeared."

Revolutionary forces started searching every building in the area and found weapons on some of the rooftops, many hidden under water tanks, Omar said. Then pro-Gadhafi snipers opened fire, and the gunbattle began as anti-Gadhafi fighters chased loyalists around the closely packed buildings.

In amateur video shown to The Associated Press, gunfire can be seen coming from the upper floors of apartment buildings surrounding the square, prompting revolutionary forces to scramble and begin shooting from the street below.

Shouting "God is Great," hundreds of revolutionary fighters converged on the area in pickups mounted with weapons. They set up checkpoints as heavy gunfire echoed through the streets.

Ameena Sami, a 39-year-old resident, said her brother was shot in his waist.

"My brother was standing at the front door of our house, and we heard shooting in the streets. We don't know where it came from, and the revolutionaries came speeding onto our street and surrounded one of the buildings across the street," she said. "The shooting just got more intense, and we looked outside and found my brother shot."

Tripoli military officials said 12 suspected Gadhafi supporters were detained but played down the shooting, saying no clashes occurred and that the gunfire was primarily from revolutionary forces themselves. The local military council issued a statement saying 30 people were injured in friendly fire.

U.S. State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland also downplayed the seriousness of the fighting, calling it an "isolated, relatively small incident, by the sound of it."

Ahmad al-Warfly, a fighter from the revolutionary forces' Zintan brigade, said several Gadhafi supporters apparently planned a protest but drew fire because they were armed. They then fled and were pursued by revolutionary forces, prompting fierce street battles.

Al-Warfly said one man carrying a gun was captured and identified as a suspect wanted for the killings of protesters in the nearby city of Zawiya.

"It seems like it was organized," he said. "They were planning to have a big demonstration, then the fight started."

Witnesses also reported fighting elsewhere in the capital, but the shooting was most intense in Abu Salim.

Interim leader Mustafa Abdul-Jalil, the head of the governing National Transitional Council, has said that he hoped to declare liberation this week after the imminent fall of the holdout city of Sirte, 250 miles (400 kilometers) southeast of Tripoli on the Mediterranean coast. That could allow the council to name a new interim government and set a timeline for holding elections within eight months.

The revolutionary forces control much of Sirte after launching a major push a week ago.

On Friday, they pounded loyalists holed up in two neighborhoods with rocket and machine-gun fire but also suffered heavy casualties themselves. Wounded men streamed into front-line medical units, then were evacuated to field hospitals on the city's outskirts.

Tanks and weapons-mounted vehicles from the revolutionary forces have kept up a steady barrage of fire into the small enclave known as District 2, where commanders believe several hundred remaining loyalists, possibly including high-ranking figures from the former regime, are hiding.

AP Television footage on Friday showed smoke rising from a building in one part of the city, and a burning car presumably in another. Pickup trucks with mounted machine guns are seen driving through a flooded street, and elsewhere an wounded revolutionary soldier is carried on a stretcher into an ambulance.

Thousands of civilians have fled the city to escape the violence.

One resident returned Friday to collect personal items from his home, which had been used as a firing position for pro-Gadhafi forces. Their uniforms and mattresses littered the front courtyard.

The owner, who would not give his name because of fear of reprisals, left carrying just a blanket, saying, "the pictures speak for themselves." He then left the city with several of his relatives.

NATO has called the continued resistance by Gadhafi forces in Sirte "surprising," as they appear to be losing the battle since revolutionary forces have the area surrounded.

In Geneva, meanwhile, a senior U.N. human rights official, Mona Rishmawi, expressed concern about a risk of serious abuses against suspected loyalists after Gadhafi's last strongholds fall to revolutionary forces.

Rishmawi, who recently visited Libya as part of a U.N. delegation, said the transitional government is trying to ensure that the rights of captured Gadhafi fighters are protected but "the system that is currently in place is not adequate."

She said "there is a lot of room for abuse" of the estimated 7,000 people detained in sometimes makeshift prisons throughout Libya.

There are many innocent black Africans that have been killed. The western media exaggerated this Mercenary stuff to further justify their involvement in their scramble for resources.

The West including USA does not go to where they won't profit. Even the so called aid they give to African countries are collected back in some way. The second chapter for the scramble of Africa has begun. I don't intend to write a book on here to clarify on certain things. But man you just have to do more research.

cap28:

SARKOZY AND OBAMA'S HANDIWORK IN IVORY COAST:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6g03HItPQc&feature/related[/flash]

How come we never saw you armchair generals pushing the AU to act in Ivory Coast?

I'm not sure what Obama has to do with Ivory Coast. Will you also blame Obama when your pot of soup goes sour?

This is very funny. Where is Kizya Besigye and what are his views on this?
If only people understood the politics at play here.

Fact is this. Oil reserves have been discovered in Uganda. The west put pressure on museveni to sell them crude oil but museveni remained adamant.
He said his country will build refineries and only refined oil will leave uganda. Reason? his people must be the first beneficiaries of the oil deposits.
One Kizya Besigye who is museveni's strong opponent and former doctor has tried to oust museveni in vain.
The last elections saw Besigye launch the walk to work campaign that crippled Uganda for several days. The last one landed him in Nbo Hospital and it as all dramatic.
The news was that the west was funding the walk to work campaign.The aim was to put pressure on museveni to resign so that once Besigye takes over power he will allow the west to take out crude oil out of uganda. The man kesigye never gave up his walk to work campaigns even after several beatings.
To Museveni's supporters Besigye was the west's puppet to distabilise museveni's goverment.He has all of a sudden gone quiet!
I now wonder why Museveni has all of a sudden allowed US troops into the country to help fight Kony.Yeah Kony is a crazy man and needs to face justice but I cant rule out the oil politics into all these.Where have they been before? For heavens sake Kony has been in hiding for a very long time.
He has given press interviews the way osama used to do but Americans never bothered. Yes am interested to know why now after discovery of oil reserves.

I can only 'imagine' that besigye has fallen out of favour with the west and museveni has softened to them. Why? I wonder.
So what is at stake here for him and his country? Will he allow the west to dictate what they want in this oil biz in exchange for Kony?
That is all I see here.

cap28:

NATO aka the Ku Klux Klan in planes are busy dropping white phosphorous and depleted uranium on black libyans from the air as we speak, and their infantry the NTC are busy rounding up black people on the ground  taking them to slaughter houses and beheading them like animals - all of this being done under Obama's authorisation and yet some people think this latest development in Uganda is somehow being done for the benefit of africa?  what kind of brain do we have as africans

has anyone heard of AFRICOM? or is it just me?  this is the preliminary stage of AFRICOM citing troops all over the african continent - you really think the US gives a shi.t about some ugandand rebel leader  called Kony? if they didnt give a shi.t about 800,000 people being slaughtered in rwanda why would they give a sh.it about the so called massacres that they claim this guy has carried out on ugandans?

if they couldnt give a sh.it about african migrant workers being rounded up and beheaded and disembowelled by the NTC why woudl they give a f.ck about ugandans?

an entire town inhabited by 30,000 black libyans was ETHNICALLY CLEANSED by the NTC - why hasnt NATO said anything about that? why hasnt amnesty international said anything about that, why hasnt human rights watch said anything about that?


OBAMA'S HANDIWORK IN LIBYA:

[flash=300,300]http://www.youtube.com/player/v/zCj5EMC8RG4[/flash]

The problem with your kind of analysis is that it only sees the dichotomy of 2 conflicting opposites ALL of the time.
Coupled with this is simpleton-logic which has no regard for the complexity of conflict borne of antagonism, nor its attendant consequences.
Without a doubt, the tragedy that unfolded in the Libyan Town you’ve brought into sharp focus, Tawurgha, needs to be condemned in the strongest of terms, but here is also where the difficulty lies.
Truth is always the first casualty of war, and in this instance it lies somewhere between the claims and counter-claims made by both sides which indicate the town served as a launch pad for attacks against Misrata and also that it did not.

Now, as a committed Pan Africanist to the core, I am particularly challenged by this problem.
I no go lie.
Where we differ, however, is in the reductionist approach which forms the basis of your analysis.
Why is the AU not taking a more forceful stance on the situation in Libya?
Was Nigeria not one of the first countries to roll over and recognise the NTC, even as South Africa canvassed for greater circumspection?

Given the above, at what point do you and I accept some responsibility for our collective ineptitude, bro?
On the one hand you want no intervention regardless of the subsisting cost, measured in the loss of hundreds of thousands of human lives, arrested development, and a blighted future.
Yet on the other you shout protestation of all sorts, when wars like those ravaging the Congo are left to fester endlessly.

Of course it is true the US has a lot to answer for, having helped institute and sustain dictators in power all over Africa in the past 5 decades.
But only the ill-informed sees no distinction between the policies of Carter and Regan before juxtaposing same with Bush-MKII’s and Obama’s
It surely does not take much to see the omnipotence of yester-years which had the US straddling our uni-polar world, with the arrogance of a peacock is passé, does it?

My point is, as even a broken clock is correct twice a day, and only the foolish would adopt a permanent policy of rejecting external help in all cases where there is an intersection of common interests.
It is time we evolved self-serving foreign policies like some of the Arab Nation you mentioned earlier, where help is accepted when required but with clear parameters governing dis-engagement.

‘Museveni plotting change of Sudan government’

Power threat. Sudan Vice President says Mr Museveni while attending an event last year in New York made his intentions clear when he said marginalised regions in Sudan should shift the centre of power. He also says the Ugandan President supported the secession of South Sudan.

Kampala

Sudan’s Vice President Ali Osman Mohamed Taha has accused President Museveni of plotting regime change in Sudan as part of a broader agenda to stifle Arab influence in Africa. The accusations come as the Khartoum administration struggles to calm protesters who have thronged the nation’s capital all week over high food prices and rising cost of living.

Mr Taha also accused former Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi and former Yemeni Vice President Ali Salim al-Beidh of contributing militarily to the secession of South Sudan. While attending a symposium in Egypt’s Capital Cairo on Monday, Mr Taha said Mr Museveni made his intentions clear sometime last year when he attended an event in New York. According to Mr Taha, Mr Museveni spoke of a movement by marginalised regions of Sudan to shift the centre of power in Sudan.

Uganda responds
“This is ridiculous,” Ministry of Foreign Affairs Permanent Secretary Ambassador James Mugume said yesterday. “I was in New York and the President never said such a thing.” Ambassador Mugume said President Museveni actually expressed support for the Sudanese government and called for the implementation of the Comprehensive Peace Agreement signed in 2005 including the January 2011 referendum and the peaceful resolution of other post-referendum issues. According to the Sudan Tribune, Mr Taha could have been referring to a United Nations meeting Mr Museveni attended on September 27, 2010.

It is alleged Mr Museveni reportedly said the problem in Sudan was a group of Arabs who were trying to run Sudan as an Arab country [/b]regardless of the fact that it was an Afro-Arab nation.

The accusations are likely to further strain the Khartoum -Kampala relationship which is already fragile due to Uganda’s support of South’s independence and accusations that [b]Khartoum largely supported the Lord’s Resistance Army that ravaged northern Uganda for over 20 years.




I wish somebody with insight could read and understand what is happening. There's more than meets the eye.

I am from the East and what happens across the border affects us to some extent.We always play refuge to war tone nations. You may be shocked to discover that Kony is only a blinding effect.The issues are deep and interest may spread far than we are reading about.

I need to talk to my pals in Kampala and get their views as well.
http://www.monitor.co.ug/News/National/-/688334/1255158/-/bi19m2z/-/index.html

eGuerrilla:



The problem with your kind of analysis is that it only sees the dichotomy of 2 conflicting opposites ALL of the time.
Coupled with this is simpleton-logic which has no regard for the complexity of conflict borne of antagonism, nor its attendant consequences.
Without a doubt, the tragedy that unfolded in the Libyan Town you’ve brought into sharp focus, Tawurgha, needs to be condemned in the strongest of terms, but here is also where the difficulty lies.
Truth is always the first casualty of war, and in this instance it lies somewhere between the claims and counter-claims made by both sides which indicate the town served as a launch pad for attacks against Misrata and also that it did not.

Now, as a committed Pan Africanist to the core, I am particularly challenged by this problem.
I no go lie.
Where we differ, however, is in the reductionist approach which forms the basis of your analysis.
Why is the AU not taking a more forceful stance on the situation in Libya?
Was Nigeria not one of the first countries to roll over and recognise the NTC, even as South Africa canvassed for greater circumspection?

Given the above, at what point do you and I accept some responsibility for our collective ineptitude, bro?
On the one hand you want no intervention regardless of the subsisting cost, measured in the loss of hundreds of thousands of human lives, arrested development, and a blighted future.
Yet on the other you shout protestation of all sorts, when wars like those ravaging the Congo are left to fester endlessly.

Of course it is true the US has a lot to answer for, having helped institute and sustain dictators in power all over Africa in the past 5 decades.
But only the ill-informed sees no distinction between the policies of Carter and Regan before juxtaposing same with Bush-MKII’s and Obama’s
It surely does not take much to see the omnipotence of yester-years which had the US straddling our uni-polar world, with the arrogance of a peacock is passé, does it?

My point is, as even a broken clock is correct twice a day, and only the foolish would adopt a permanent policy of rejecting external help in all cases where there is an intersection of common interests.
It is time we evolved self-serving foreign policies like some of the Arab Nation you mentioned earlier, where help is accepted when required but with clear parameters governing dis-engagement.

Despite your needless use of overblown grammar you still come across as a pretentious wanna be  - your convoluted grammar does not denote intelligence it merely demonstrate a desperate need to SOUND intelligence.

Now lets try to get to the root of your rambling statements - first of all what you describe as simpleton logic is actually the truth - and sometimes the truth doesnt have to be complicated - we have a situation in libya in which a true man of the people, used his nation's oil resources to improve the well being of his people, in doing so he placed himself on a collision course with some of the most powerful nations and oil and banking interests in the world - as a result a nation which rose from being one of the poorest in the world to being one with the highest standard of living in africa has come under attack from the combined military forcees of 40 european nations as well as the united states, canada and austraila - now kindly highlight for me why this is so difficult for you to get to grips with? where is the complexity in that? unlike you i am very familiar with the history of libya and the long running conflict that gadaffi has had with the west all because of his unwillingnes to bow to the imperiliasm of europe and america, so pray tell where are these so called complex underlying antagonisms that you talk about?

Tawergha is a town inhabited by black libyans who fought valiantly to rid misurata of racist rebel elements who were gang ra.ping women and children, surely any committed patriot woudl fight on the side of their own nation to rid their country of satanic ra.pists and murderers unless of course you are telling me that you would have preferred that they stand by and watch their own people being slaughtered by these marauding gangs - this now gives me an insight into the kind of person you are - you would have probably slunk away to hide your sorry arse away while your own wife and children were being gang r.ap.ed, beaten and tortured by these animals.

Instead of paying your respects to these valiant tawergans you come on here to open your mouth to take the side of your white masters - have you no shame?

there is plenty of documented evidence all over youtube showing the carnage created by these NTC monsters, there are pictures of beheaded black tawerghans with their hands tied behind their backs and yet this is not enough evidence for your pea brain - you are a joke!!!

Dont you ever open your mouth to call yourself a panafricanist because you are a big embarrassment to black people and would never qualify under any criteria as a panafricanist with all the senseless and brain dead ramblings you've posted on here.

Now turning to your criticism of the AU - where were you when a delegation led by Jacob Zuma of South africa went to Libya to negotiate a ceasefire agreement?  where were you when gadaffi agreed to honour this ceasefire? where were you when NATO REFUSED TO COME TO THE TABLE TO ACCEPT THIS SAME CEASEFIRE?  are you so st.upid that you dont realise that it takes two to make an agreement work?  if the AU made an offer which was subsequently rejected by NATO and even the arab league - what did you expect the AU to do?  

another indication of your ignorance of world issues is your statement about nigeria's endorsement of the NTC -  Are you unaware of the fact that nigeria endorsed the NTC in flagrant disregard for the AU's stance - as a matter of fact nigeria fell out with other AU members and went ahead with its endorsement for fear of going against europe and america - did you know that? - did you not know that your nation nigeria is run by cowards and traitors?

at what point are YOU going to open your eyes and understand that the only reason the europeans and americans are in africa is because they wish to recolonise the entire continent - they have no interest in you or i but in what lies underneath the ground - period- when is that going to get through to you?

You know nothign about the war in congo or its genesis -  i woudl therefore advise  you to keep your mouth firmly closed about issues to do with congo until you have researched the terrible and tragic history of that country - who killed lumumba? who replaced him with the murderer and looter mobutu? who triggered the war in rwanda? who financed paul kagame and who supplied military training and arms to kagame and museveni in order to enable them invade the DRC and take over its mines?

This kind of African problem suppose to be handled by Nigeria.

But unfortunately Nigeria is just a big country by population but no money.

We better be divided and have small countries that are responsible.

Break Nigeria Break.

cap28:



Now lets try to get to the root of your rambling statements - first of all what you describe as simpleton logic is actually the truth - and sometimes the truth doesnt have to be complicated - we have a situation in libya in which a true man of the people, used his nation's oil resources to improve the well being of his people, in doing so he placed himself on a collision course with some of the most powerful nations and oil and banking interests in the world - as a result a nation which rose from being one of [b]Despite your needless use of overblown grammar you still come across as a pretentious wanna be - your convoluted grammar does not denote intelligence it merely demonstrate a desperate need to SOUND intelligence.[/b]the poorest in the world to being one with the highest standard of living in africa has come under attack from the combined military forcees of 40 european nations as well as the united states, canada and austraila - now kindly highlight for me why this is so difficult for you to get to grips with? where is the complexity in that? unlike you i am very familiar with the history of libya and the long running conflict that gadaffi has had with the west all because of his unwillingnes to bow to the imperiliasm of europe and america, so pray tell where are these so called complex underlying antagonisms that you talk about?

Tawergha is a town inhabited by black libyans who fought valiantly to rid misurata of racist rebel elements who were gang Desecrating women and children, surely any committed patriot woudl fight on the side of their own nation to rid their country of satanic rapists and murderers unless of course you are telling me that you would have preferred that they stand by and watch their own people being slaughtered by these marauding gangs - this now gives me an insight into the kind of person you are - you would have probably slunk away to hide your sorry arse away while your own wife and children were being gang violated, beaten and tortured by these animals.

Instead of paying your respects to these valiant tawergans you come on here to open your mouth to take the side of your white masters - have you no shame?

there is plenty of documented evidence all over youtube showing the carnage created by these NTC monsters, there are pictures of beheaded black tawerghans with their hands tied behind their backs and yet this is not enough evidence for your pea brain - you are a joke!!!

Dont you ever open your mouth to call yourself a panafricanist because you are a big embarrassment to black people and would never qualify under any criteria as a panafricanist with all the senseless and brain dead ramblings you've posted on here.

Now turning to your criticism of the AU - where were you when a delegation led by Jacob Zuma of South africa went to Libya to negotiate a ceasefire agreement?  where were you when gadaffi agreed to honour this ceasefire? where were you when NATO REFUSED TO COME TO THE TABLE TO ACCEPT THIS SAME CEASEFIRE?  are you so st, upid that you dont realise that it takes two to make an agreement work?  if the AU made an offer which was subsequently rejected by NATO and even the arab league - what did you expect the AU to do?  

another indication of your ignorance of world issues is your statement about nigeria's endorsement of the NTC -  Are you unaware of the fact that nigeria endorsed the NTC in flagrant disregard for the AU's stance - as a matter of fact nigeria fell out with other AU members and went ahead with its endorsement for fear of going against europe and america - did you know that - did you not know that your nation nigeria is run by cowards and traitors?

at what point are YOU going to open your eyes and understand that the only reason the europeans and americans are in africa is because they wish to recolonise the entire continent - they have no interest in you or i but in what lies underneath the ground - period- when is that going to get through to you?

You know nothign about the war in congo or its genesis -  i woudl therefore advise  you to keep your mouth firmly closed about issues to do with congo until you have researched the terrible and tragic history of that country - who killed lumumba? who replaced him with the murderer and looter mobutu? who triggered the war in rwanda? who financed paul kagame and who supplied military training and arms to kagame and museveni in order to enable them invade the DRC and take over its mines?

@Mr Grammar (see the highlighted portion of your text),

Your brand of Pan Africanism is what positions ruination as a recurring decimal on the African continent.
I am referring to the vision that confuses blind-solidarity to despotism and all it entails as progressive ideology.
When I have a bit more time on my hands, I will respond to you in kind.

Mr--Why:


The West including USA does not go to where they won't profit. Even the so called aid they give to African countries are collected back in some way.

Is that how you work and expend your efforts without being rewarded
Is that how you live your life and take care of your family or was that how your parents took care of you - working for free and not being paid adequate wages
It is reasoning like yours that makes Africa and Africans so re.tarded and begging for alms (aids) from Europe, America and now China.
Can you imagine the millions of dollars, TACS deployment and military assistance Nigeria gives other African countries without backing it up with commercial interests despite our significant manufacturing capacity, technological know-how and skilled manpower
Bunch of slowpokes 

Let's face it, Barack Obama is George W. Bush with a tan. Anyone who bought into his hope and change crap are now realizing they were tricked. And no, I'm not a teabagger, I'm a person who believes in justice and righteousness and is fed up with the bulls**t we the people have to put up with, which is why I fully support the Occupy movements all across the USA and all around the world. Republican or Democrat, male or female, black or white, American politicians - well, politicians the world over - don't give a damn about we the people. They only care about getting money from corporations or war profiteering or stealing other peoples natural resources. Republicans and Democrats are really two sides of the same coin. It seems like if a person gets into office and actually tries to change the way things are, they'll get killed. Does John F. Kennedy ring a bell?

I understand there are white people who don't like Obama because he's a black man sitting in the oval office. F**k them. But I'm tired of some black folks saying he shouldn't be criticized because he's the first black U.S. president. That's killing our political voice. He's not God. I have criticized Obama on a number of issues and if continues this bulls**t, I'll keep criticizing him. This man has continued and tripled down on U.S. foreign policy. He exacerbated the war in Afghanistan, he exacerbated the drone bombings, he participated in the bank and Wall Street bailouts. I know he inherited these problems from George Bush, Jr., a slow redneck, who is the worst president in U.S. history. However, Obama is actually making it worse, both inside and outside the United States. I'm starting to feel the only way these people will get the messgae is if everybody on this planet rises up. This has gone way too far.

And why the hell does the U.S. have a two-party system? Republicans and Democrats are equally corrupt. The Democrats are just the lesser of the two evils. If the USA is a truly democratic nation, we should a slew of parties. Unfortunately, the American people are too ignorant to know that and too ignorant to pay attention to individuals who know what needs to be done and are not slaves to corporations and defense contractors all because of superficial biases such as race and class. Yes, such people do exist and actually do care about their fellow man.

All things come to an end. I don't how the current system will end, but it will end and I hope the end of the current system of things comes quickly. That is all.

While in Uganda drilling for oil, I knew that it won't take long for the Americans to invade. They are just using the fight against Kony as a proxy. They will definitely help in getting the guy with their technology and advanced war machines, but so will Uganda be indebted to them forever. This is the oil war series part 1. Kony is not the biggest problem in Uganda. He is just fighting a tribal war though his methods are not conventional. He has been hiding in the jungle of south sudan and DRC since God knows when. Like all African countries, their biggest problem is corruption and the corrupt are aided by the West. If the Americans want to help the rest of the world, they need to look at themselves in the mirror.

[b]Just saw this truthful essay on the net.
Sorry about the cut and paste job but it strongly addresses the topic matter.






Obama Sends US Troops to Uganda
October 14, 2011
By Tony Cartalucci - BLN Contributing Writer


http://www.blacklistednews.com/Obama_Sends_US_Troops_to_Uganda/16138/0/38/38/Y/M.html

Nobel Peace Prize-President quietly opens 8th US battlefront.

While America occupies Iraq and Afghanistan, wages covert war on Pakistan, conducts drone attacks on Yemen and Somalia, bombards Libya, and positions for a wider confrontation with Iran and Syria, Nobel Peace Prize Laurette President Obama has now quietly, without much fanfare, sent 100 US troops to help Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni crush rebels threatening his 25 year dictatorship.

In what is essentially a "reverse-Libyan-style" intervention, the US is sending troops to crush, not assist rebels rising up against their despotic ruler. Ironically, just as with Libya's rebels, Uganda's rebels are also listed as a foreign terrorist organization by the US State Department. Instead of the corporate-financier contrived International Criminal Court issuing fictitious warrants for Uganda's head of state, as was done with Qaddafi in Libya, it is the Ugandan rebel leader, Joseph Kony, who is being targeted.

Both the Ugandan government (with US assistance) and the rebels, known as the Lord's Resistance Army (LRA), are accused of perpetrating heinous atrocities against their enemies and civilian populations in their decades long conflict. In particular, Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni has just recently presided over the mass murdering and displacement of 20,000 of his own people on behalf of British corporations who sought to construct tree plantations on their land. US and British military assistance and business deals with the Ugandan government have been a ubiquitous feature throughout Museveni's perpetual, unending term as president.

While mutilated victims of the LRA are just now being paraded in front of the public to frame the recent US troop deployment as another "humanitarian intervention," it is more than likely that geopolitical aspirations, not humanitarian concerns, are driving this agenda. This is especially so considering just how equally abhorrent the Ugandan government's human rights record is.

The LRA has often been harbored by the Sudanese government (now the South Sudanese government). Sudan has served as a proxy battlefield between the West and China for control over of its vast oil holdings and ultimately as part of a greater battle to control Africa's resources. Sudan appears to have used the LRA as a sort of armed buffer between them and their neighbors, in particular, Uganda, ruled by an eager servant of the Anglo-American agenda.

Surely, as Africa, a forsaken continent, is already written off in the minds of many Americans, little concern and few eyebrow will be lifted as their Nobel Peace Prize-wearing president sends yet more troops off to war there, in a global military expansion quickly and alarmingly approaching the scale and scope of Adolf Hitler's expansion across Europe and Northern Africa during World War II. This is difficult to deny when the final tally is done - the United States is conducting either covert or overt military operations in at least 8 nations - Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Somalia, Iran, Libya, Pakistan, and now Uganda - and has 820 military installations in at least 135 countries. As Wall Street and London seek global hegemony, the price Americans pay as this tally grows will only increase. However far flung Uganda may seem, every inch of expansion by the globalists is one inch less for free humanity.

Identify the corporate-financier interests engineering and driving this agenda, boycott and replace them.








British Corporation Mass Murdering Ugandans in UN Sanctioned Land Grab


http://landdestroyer..com/2011/09/british-corporation-mass-murdering.html[/b]






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D-pharisee:

I read some analysts who said the US are sending troops to Kony because of the discovery of oil and gas reserves in Uganda and that was why they supported Museveni in changing the constitution and removing term limits and rigging himself back to power just like the dictator Paul Biya of Cameroon. They gave the Nobel Peace Prize to Sirleaf Johnson of Liberia who was a sponsor of Charles Taylors NPDF during the war in other to sway votes her way.
The fact is that just like the Berlin Conference of 1886, there is another scramble for Africa.
Obama is a wamonger, he promised Americans to take them out of Afghanistan and Iraq, but has only being able to start another war in Libya, Yemen, Pakistan, Syria (if not for Russia and China veto) and now he is invading Uganda while looking for every excuse to attack Iran and Venezuela and putting Robert Mugabe in his sights.
What happens to American using its weight to encourage negotiations, Zimbabwe who has a 'tyrant' as a leader almost got bombed by NATO like Ivory Coast if not for Russia veto at the UN over an election dispute, but today despite all the western sanctions their economy has picked up and Morgan Tsvangirai has been exposed by Wikileaks as a CIA asset.
It is the ordinary Ugandans who will suffer from the American bombs and have their environment destroyed when these guys start full oil drilling to help their ailing economies.
Obama doesnt listen to Americans he thinks he can continue to use the main stream media to manipulate events and get the world on his wrong side.

This is just silly ranting of the highest order. I tried to bold the parts that doesnt mean much to me and i discovered i may've to bold it all so it's useless in doing so.
So when did the Nobel prize become an american award abeg?
Can you pls give me a link to confirm this ur theory that Sirleaf Johnson was a Taylor sponsor?
So America started a war in Syria and Yemen? And Pakistan? This is news from another news to me.
Infact i give up here cos i dont even know ur stand on Mugabe.
My thought on the whole issue is that America is in a no win situation here. If they act people will blame them for acting (e.g. Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq etc and in this case), if they dont people will blame them (e.g. Syria, Egypt, Rwanda etc). It really is an unenviable position to be.
I shudder anytime i wonder what would've happen to those Libyan if NATO hadn't intervened when they did. Meanwhile AU folded it's hands doing nothing just like it did in CIV, Rwanda, Somalia, Liberia etc
Well i know America never lifts it's fingers to help anyone if there's nothing to be gained from it. And i dont blame them for it. China and Russia does the same too. Time will tell what they will gain from this. With election coming so soon,i hope Obama is not kissing his chances bye if American soldiers start dying in Africa

Many of you have made good points.Some are pro America and some are anti America.I am Anti American Government.I depise the American Government and for good reason but i support this action as long as it is swift and does not include any hidden agenda.If they wipe out the LRA swiftly like sri lanka wiped out the tamil tigers,it will be a great day for Arica.The kony guy is barbaric and should be tortured befored being executed.

That being said ,remember vietnam? They said they were sending military advisors too and see what it led to ,a full scale wars where millions of people lost their lives.The US Pentagon must have a direct stragtegy and capture kony within 30days or they will start an avalanche of bloodshed that will spread all over central Africa.I will suggest covert operations instead of using visible troops.

@D-pharisee  do you have a link to the analysis you read regarding Oil being found in Uganda.Don't worry about those calling you a conspiracy theorist ,such accusations will arise when you dare to question the official story or the motives of their dear innocent US Government.They are feigning amnesia about the fact that the President of Rwanda Paul Kagame along with many of the top ranking military officers in the Ugandan Army were trained by the CIA.Even ordinary Ugandans know that Kagame is a deadly assassin and an American puppet.

Basics007:

This is just silly ranting of the highest order. I tried to bold the parts that doesnt mean much to me and i discovered i may've to bold it all so it's useless in doing so.
So when did the Nobel prize become an american award abeg?
Can you pls give me a link to confirm this your theory that Sirleaf Johnson was a Taylor sponsor?
So America started a war in Syria and Yemen? And Pakistan? This is news from another news to me.
Infact i give up here cos i dont even know your stand on Mugabe.
My thought on the whole issue is that America is in a no win situation here. If they act people will blame them for acting (e.g. Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq etc and in this case), if they dont people will blame them (e.g. Syria, Egypt, Rwanda etc). It really is an unenviable position to be.
I shudder anytime i wonder what would've happen to those Libyan if NATO hadn't intervened when they did. Meanwhile AU folded it's hands doing nothing just like it did in CIV, Rwanda, Somalia, Liberia etc
Well i know America never lifts it's fingers to help anyone if there's nothing to be gained from it. And i dont blame them for it. China and Russia does the same too. Time will tell what they will gain from this. With election coming so soon,i hope Obama is not kissing his chances bye if American soldiers start dying in Africa

My friend do some research before you start asking questions that you can easily find answers to.Yes she sponsored him and that has been confirmed by many people including the lady herself.Do your own research.

http://dailymaverick.co.za/article/2010-01-27-27-january-liberian-president-says-shell-stand-again

cap28:

SARKOZY AND OBAMA'S HANDIWORK IN IVORY COAST:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6g03HItPQc&feature/related[/flash]

seeing is believing. This is criminal

obama is very talented. Since his regim i love evry step he take.How can we allow this rubbish rebels and allah-shab. To be threatning africa. it is only when america strike,they murmur but the country sponsoring boko haram,allah-qaeda,mutalab are always innocent.Obama knew his target and his target knew him. They enjoy him wen he strike. America is d last world power den CHRIST DE KING wil come in dat's bible declaration

Afro_Blue:

[b]Just saw this truthful essay on the net.
Sorry about the cut and paste job but it strongly addresses the topic matter.






Obama Sends US Troops to Uganda
October 14, 2011
By Tony Cartalucci - BLN Contributing Writer


http://www.blacklistednews.com/Obama_Sends_US_Troops_to_Uganda/16138/0/38/38/Y/M.html

Nobel Peace Prize-President quietly opens 8th US battlefront.

While America occupies Iraq and Afghanistan, wages covert war on Pakistan, conducts drone attacks on Yemen and Somalia, bombards Libya, and positions for a wider confrontation with Iran and Syria, Nobel Peace Prize Laurette President Obama has now quietly, without much fanfare, sent 100 US troops to help Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni crush rebels threatening his 25 year dictatorship.

In what is essentially a "reverse-Libyan-style" intervention, the US is sending troops to crush, not assist rebels rising up against their despotic ruler. Ironically, just as with Libya's rebels, Uganda's rebels are also listed as a foreign terrorist organization by the US State Department. Instead of the corporate-financier contrived International Criminal Court issuing fictitious warrants for Uganda's head of state, as was done with Qaddafi in Libya, it is the Ugandan rebel leader, Joseph Kony, who is being targeted.

Both the Ugandan government (with US assistance) and the rebels, known as the Lord's Resistance Army (LRA), are accused of perpetrating heinous atrocities against their enemies and civilian populations in their decades long conflict. In particular, Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni has just recently presided over the mass murdering and displacement of 20,000 of his own people on behalf of British corporations who sought to construct tree plantations on their land. US and British military assistance and business deals with the Ugandan government have been a ubiquitous feature throughout Museveni's perpetual, unending term as president.

While mutilated victims of the LRA are just now being paraded in front of the public to frame the recent US troop deployment as another "humanitarian intervention," it is more than likely that geopolitical aspirations, not humanitarian concerns, are driving this agenda. This is especially so considering just how equally abhorrent the Ugandan government's human rights record is.

The LRA has often been harbored by the Sudanese government (now the South Sudanese government). Sudan has served as a proxy battlefield between the West and China for control over of its vast oil holdings and ultimately as part of a greater battle to control Africa's resources. Sudan appears to have used the LRA as a sort of armed buffer between them and their neighbors, in particular, Uganda, ruled by an eager servant of the Anglo-American agenda.

Surely, as Africa, a forsaken continent, is already written off in the minds of many Americans, little concern and few eyebrow will be lifted as their Nobel Peace Prize-wearing president sends yet more troops off to war there, in a global military expansion quickly and alarmingly approaching the scale and scope of Adolf Hitler's expansion across Europe and Northern Africa during World War II. This is difficult to deny when the final tally is done - the United States is conducting either covert or overt military operations in at least 8 nations - Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Somalia, Iran, Libya, Pakistan, and now Uganda - and has 820 military installations in at least 135 countries. As Wall Street and London seek global hegemony, the price Americans pay as this tally grows will only increase. However far flung Uganda may seem, every inch of expansion by the globalists is one inch less for free humanity.

Identify the corporate-financier interests engineering and driving this agenda, boycott and replace them.








British Corporation Mass Murdering Ugandans in UN Sanctioned Land Grab


http://landdestroyer..com/2011/09/british-corporation-mass-murdering.html[/b]






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People like you are the worst kind of traitors out there!
So the murderous LRA (whose crimes against humanity have been documented for decades!)are now your heroes abi?

Obama is just  trying to score points ahead of the upcoming elections , other than that he does not care whether Africa is in ruin or not. He will use  these 100 military advisers issue to make hypocritical  and demagogical speeches on world policies to make his people believe  that he is a world leader, although  he is not.One knows  He spent  4 years kissing Sarkozy's butts  to destroy Africa and install  criminals such as Allassane wattara in Cote d'Ivoire and the NTC  in Libya.
He rather hire Nato to bomb his father's village in Kenya instead of bothering people.

@anonimi

Is that how you work and expend your efforts without being rewarded Huh
Is that how you live your life and take care of your family or was that how your parents took care of you - working for free and not being paid adequate wages Shocked
It is reasoning like yours that makes Africa and Africans so re.tarded and begging for alms (aids) from Europe, America and now China.
Can you imagine the millions of dollars, TACS deployment and military assistance Nigeria gives other African countries without backing it up with commercial interests despite our significant manufacturing capacity, technological know-how and skilled manpower Huh
Bunch of slowpokes Angry

Your views shows how fuzzy your logic is. You sound like a brainwashed prick. You need to develop an independent mind and start thinking for yourself. Do some research Dokita and read some books. Your statements about Africans and Africa as a whole shows that you are simply lost. Go and tell that to those corporations whose stocks are listed on prominent Stock exchanges and then to rise whenever such move is taken by western hypocrites for the sake of "helping civilians" or giving "aids".

texazzpete:

People like you are the worst kind of traitors out there!
So the murderous LRA (whose crimes against humanity have been documented for decades!)are now your heroes abi?

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Thank you very much for the compliment. Yes, I am a traitor to the wealthy 1% that own everything and suck the life and resources out of every corner of the globe.

LRA crimes are a Uganda problem to solve after they get rid of their dictator that has been in power for 24 years and is making side deals with colonial powers to fatten his Swiss bank accounts.

The real reason why Obama has sent US troops to Uganda:


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGyyvIJueDE&feature/channel_video_title[/flash]

afro blue thanks for posting that article written by tony cartalucci - he is one of the best independent journalists out there .

haha. I can see our nairaland Roswell correspondent is here again. cap28 is always on the side of the tyrants and brigands who he sees as the vanguard of the african race.

He has not accepted the fact that Kony is a deranged lunatic who has been raping women for decades, and killing people for a plainly crazy cause.

Irrespective of Obama's personal agenda, its a fact that africa needs to solve this problem. however that will not happen because we harbor such elements as yourself within our ranks. Such elements who would rather support a Gbagbo, Ghadaffi or Mugabe rather than the downtrodden masses under them.

I am sure this same twisted logic must have been the reigning ideology when Nigerians still languished under the military while dollops and other idiots in other countries argued the ideological merits & demerits of military tyranny in africa's largest country.

Kony needs to be brought to justice.

Al-shabaab need to be tamed and eliminated as a military force and movement ( any movement that would starve its people to maintain power has no sympathy from me).

Museveni needs to go too. So also Biya, Mugabe and the rest of the tyrants.

OBAMA'S HANDIWORK IN LIBYA:

[flash=300,300]http://www.youtube.com/player/v/zCj5EMC8RG4[/flash]
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My heart bleeds after seeing this.

Lord I hope he made it.

cap28:

The real reason why Obama has sent US troops to Uganda:


[flash=300,300]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGyyvIJueDE&feature/channel_video_title[/flash]

interesting peace of info

kodewrita:

haha. I can see our nairaland Roswell correspondent is here again. cap28 is always on the side of the tyrants and brigands who he sees as the vanguard of the african race.

He has not accepted the fact that Kony is a deranged lunatic who has been Desecrating women for decades, and killing people for a plainly crazy cause.

Irrespective of Obama's personal agenda, its a fact that africa needs to solve this problem. however that will not happen because we harbor such elements as yourself within our ranks. Such elements who would rather support a Gbagbo, Ghadaffi or Mugabe rather than the downtrodden masses under them.

I am sure this same twisted logic must have been the reigning ideology when Nigerians still languished under the military while dollops and other idiots in other countries argued the ideological merits & demerits of military tyranny in africa's largest country.

Kony needs to be brought to justice.

Al-shabaab need to be tamed and eliminated as a military force and movement ( any movement that would starve its people to maintain power has no sympathy from me).

Museveni needs to go too. So also Biya, Mugabe and the rest of the tyrants.

You are a real comedian - but instead of laughing with you i laugh at just how far gone you are in the brainwashing department -

in your book tyrants are leaders who provide free education, healthcare and housing for their people (Gadaffi)  while great leaders are those who spend their nation's oil revenue on buying luxury apartments in london, new york  and monaco (IBB) or stealing $35 million dollars within just one month of being in office (Goodluck Jonathan and wife) or building a 50 room apartment while the majority of nigerians live in terrible squalor (IBB again) or stealing an oil block worth $500 million (TY Danjuma) these are  your heroes - no wonder nigeria is in such a sh.it state -

If Kony is such a deranged lunatic as  you describe him - why is it just now that the americans have decided to take an interest in him?  
As a matter of fact america and europe are currently supporting a gang of deranged lunatics as we speak in libya - these deranged lunatics cut off women's breasts and cut out the hearts of anyone suspected of supporting gadaffi, but the worst treatment is reserved for black libyans and black immigrants who they round up and behead in slaughter houses as if they are killing animals - but do you see america jumping up and down about these savages?  no instead they continue to arm and fund these deranged lunatics knowing full well that these demons are perpetrating genocide on black african people - why dont you ask yourself why this is the case?

if you think that the americans and europeans give a damn about the downtrodden masses of africa you need to have your head examined by a very good psychiatrist.  

Al shabab like Al qaeda are creations of US intelligence - try and do some research for a change.

Museveni is a CIA asset armed and financed by the US (read up on what him and Paul Kagame are doing in DRC on behalf of europe and america) - dont you find it odd that the US govt are not talking about removing him from power despite the fact that he has been in power for 25 years - instead they are focusing on some obscure war lord who has been hiding in the bush for the past 20 years - learn to read between the lines my friend - Uganda is a US ally and oil has just been discovered there.  Also africom is now being implemented in order for the US and europe to "safeguard"  vital resources and prevent them from falling into the hands of the rising superpower (China)