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Sorry what is an 'agboro'. is that an Ibo word? Is it abusive? If yes , I wont be surprised because there are lots more like you on social media who cannot compose an intelligent response without resorting to an abuse.

Hyperchi:

And how has ur choice impacted in ur life since as an agboro

georgeakins:


Where you wan enter?

The presidency is going back to the North after 8 years and then South South.
Obi go contest tire

U that u can't even afford to eat afternoon meal think ur opinion matters

OGHENAOGIE:
what some of u Igbos failed to understand is politics is strategic and won by negotiation... Votes from Igboland won't make Obi president... This toxic pride is why u pple push obi out d PDP when he should have been deputy to Atiku and PDP would have won... To be president u need good votes from at least four region out of six ok... LP party doesn't that reach only PDP APC has it... but since u Igbos think by force obi ll be president that let's be watching...

Oga Peter Obi won in Nassarawa, Lagos, Lagos, Abuja and 3 other non-Igbo states so what are you talking about?

The problem here has nothing to do with the Igbos pushing to go solo but a system where impunity, injustice and arbitrariness hold sway.

And besides we were talking about a Buhari whose hatred for the Igbos tended towards congenital proportions.

Your should be worried with the dangerous proclivities playing out in Nigeria and what portend for the future viability of this contraption and not resorting to default settings of nitpicking on the Igbos.

There is nothing the Igbos do in Nigeria no matter noble that wouldn't elicit hypocritical reactions from people like you.

You guys should outgrown this morbid fixation on the Igbos because you know abundantly well that the Igbos are not responsible for the malaise that is Nigeria...

Peter Obi made his bid via Labour Party and the last time I checked, the party is not an Igbo one.

You cannot bring up PDP because Atiku and co got what they bargained for...

Nigerians or deluded and brainwashed obidots? This is one of the lawyers deceiving obingo he won in order to milk him dry.

apache4:
I don't like Peter Obi and his Obidient's dogs

. But Why? Well, no need for explanations, just save it to your sorry self.
Hate is what WE have proudly employed all our enemies to do for NO PAY! Lolssssssss.!

OlujobaSamuel:

In election petition, burden of proof is on petitioner, and it is beyond reasonable doubt, not a test of probability.
The petitioner is the one alleging irregularity, what he needs to do is to present the irregularity in specifics, inec nor the declared winner won't help him do that.
Eg, PU 3, ward 5, MIT LGA, Got state, the result as announced at the PU and signed by agents with a copy given to our agent TP 40, GP 35, BP 80, in the announced result, Inec declared TP 75, GP 40, BP 40.
that is a proof of irregularity, Inec will need to explain the difference if that result presented by the petitioner is truly gotten from the PU.
The scenario above is different from saying Inec changed all or most of our results, the declared results isn't correct. The question would be, is it possible for Inec to change result from more than a thousand PU.
If you go through the petitions, you will noticed that no where was any figure stated as deduction or addition to any of the parties by the petitioner, court won't manufacture figures for you, you present it and they consider the argument you have in advocating for the figures.
Another option is PU cancelling, you have to show that a cancelled PU possible votes is more than the margin of victory, that way, a rerun would be ordered in such PU or ward or area as the case may be.
SC has mentioned it times without number, but lawyers are still going to tribunal to present case without due diligence

I get your point but I still think the judges were biased though, like in the rivers case for example it was more than just a polling unit it was the summation of the entire state today which today it was proven obi won, it that case I don't think obi's lawyers needed to break it down to the polling units because it wasn't even the polling unit that were contested it was the state and the evidence were even justified by the certified true copies issued by inec, which is a legal evidence in court, I still repeat obi may not have proven he won but he definitely was able to prove irregularities, which the tribunal never even addressed, another of its bias I noticed was when they refused to accept EU's report because it want presented by an EU official, by their logic if I should precent my school certificate in court it would can be declared ineligible because it wasnt presented personally by the vice chancellor of my institution, how does this even makes sense.

Shattuck:
I get your point but I still think the judges were biased though, like in the rivers case for example it was more than just a polling unit it was the summation of the entire state today which today it was proven obi won, it that case I don't think obi's lawyers needed to break it down to the polling units because it wasn't even the polling unit that were contested it was the state and the evidence were even justified by the certified true copies issued by inec, which is a legal evidence in court, I still repeat obi may not have proven he won but he definitely was able to prove irregularities, which the tribunal never even addressed, another of its bias I noticed was when they refused to accept EU's report because it want presented by an EU official, by their logic if I should precent my school certificate in court it would can be declared ineligible because it wasnt presented personally by the vice chancellor of my institution, how does this even makes sense.

Take a time to watch the response of that female judge, you will get why the Rivers case couldn't have been looked into.
If you present your sch certificate in court, the court won't honor it, your sch must present a CTC to affirm that you are the owner of such certificate, or you request for a subpoena from the court to your sch to come present the cert. Also note that you can't request for a subpoena to a staff of your sch, you have to request it to the sch, it's the school that will send someone to represent it

Beverlyjean:


U that u can't even afford to eat afternoon meal think ur opinion matters

You probably think everyone is poor like you.
When the time comes, you will know if my opinion matters or not

Baatunde:
Sorry what is an 'agboro'. is that an Ibo word? Is it abusive? If yes , I wont be surprised because there are lots more like you on social media who cannot compose an intelligent response without resorting to an abuse.

So overnight Highness told u, ur first post was an intelligent one

even u too knows the truth

You nailed it on the head bro! These things no following sentiments there are procedures for everything in law.

OlujobaSamuel:

Take a time to watch the response of that female judge, you will get why the Rivers case couldn't have been looked into.
If you present your sch certificate in court, the court won't honor it, your sch must present a CTC to affirm that you are the owner of such certificate, or you request for a subpoena from the court to your sch to come present the cert. Also note that you can't request for a subpoena to a staff of your sch, you have to request it to the sch, it's the school that will send someone to represent it

creativehubb:
Obi lost, he has no history of achievement, only bigots and unlearned voted for Obi.

He didn't mention Obi, you are the one who mentioned him, and that justifies his statement that those who got judgement know the truth in their hearts. Judgement is different from truth. Get a new leave, because you're sick mentally.

OlujobaSamuel:

Take a time to watch the response of that female judge, you will get why the Rivers case couldn't have been looked into.
If you present your sch certificate in court, the court won't honor it, your sch must present a CTC to affirm that you are the owner of such certificate, or you request for a subpoena from the court to your sch to come present the cert. Also note that you can't request for a subpoena to a staff of your sch, you have to request it to the sch, it's the school that will send someone to represent it

maybe I'll try and see the clip of the rivers case.

Shattuck:
I doubt your claim of the law Sha, but by my limited knowledge tinubu needed to defend his victory and vote wish he failed to do, inec also needed to defend their process,authenticity and integrity they failed also, secondly you claim obi needed to prove massive rigging, for the fact there was rigging at all I expect inec to have been put under immense trial also but rather the tribunal judges were sounding like an inec and apc defense team, I know what I am talking about.

If you have limited knowledge of the law,keep silent then.in law,the burden to proof rest on the petitioner not the respondents.the respondent can only prove if the petitioner proves his case.the law also recognizes that there would be rigging and that the election won't be perfect but the rigging must be massive to the extent that it affects the final tally

TemplarLandry:
The mushroom lawyer is in his feelings.

Okutepa = oku ta epa (dead man selling peanuts) 😁

https://www.nairaland.com/7831144/all-eyes-judiciary-agenda-backfires

You castigate people because they speak their mind,

God in heaven knows what transpired on the 25th feb 2023,

We are all in the economy together buying PMS through our nose,

At least there is no special market for tinubu supporters,

Meanwhile , there is need to apologise to Yahoo boys, drug peddlers, certificate forgers etc because the nigerian court has set a precedence encouraging fraud in this country

lawyers and their rhymes,

okosodo:
Dem wan just kill dis con3 finish

Has anyone noticed that once a thread is opened about this PEPT result - an army of online miscreants defends on the thread to insult both the thread author who writes in favor of Obi calling the person IPOB or other unsavory names ? trying to bully the living daylights out of that person ?

I am not igbo, yoruba or hausa BUT My thing is - IF the the IGBOS are so hated and despised in Nigeria 🇳🇬 let’s all sign a petition today to call for a referendum so we can make them
leave Nigeria 🇳🇬 Yes let’s push them out so they can “go and perish” in their own dot region

They want to rule Nigeria 🇳🇬 we say NO, they want their own country called Biafra we say NO they want to vote 🗳 in any region they find themselves in Nigeria 🇳🇬 we say they can’t if they have a certain name they should stay at home - - they registered for voting and their PVC’s were thrown into the lagoon, forest and other places so they can’t get it —— their son who was on the ballot complained he was rigged out of the election- we yelled at him to go to court, he agreed to go we stated insulting him, —/ ever since if Obi attends any function we all gather here on nairaland to lambast his appearance at events — when he says anything we call him a liar, we call him every unprintable name under the sun

What is Obi’s crime? he dared to contest a presidential election - what has he done or said that no other politician hasn’t ?

Why this hate with so much bile of bitterness for Obi and Igbos in this forum ?

Is Obi the reason you can’t feed yourself today? Is Obi the reason your wife or girlfriend left you ? Is Obi the reason you can’t attain your personal goals in life ? (that’s if you have any in the first place) —-/ what amount did anyone pay you to invoke such hate on your spirit that you will wake up each day to harass and insult a man or members of his tribe online and offline without shame or restraint ?

The british who raped your mothers - sold your brothers and fathers into slavery and dehumanized your kings and ancestors do not get such hatred from you.., what are you people afraid of ? and why do you hate God”s human creation (Obi and the Ibos) so much ?

If you can’t honestly answer this question, you are worse than an animal - because even animals (cats and dogs) don’t fight each other this much like we fight and attack the Ibo person for no reason, off and online

I rest my case!

Shattuck:
maybe I'll try and see the clip of the rivers case.

It wasn't a response specific for Rivers, it was a response for the petition itself.
A summary of it; she said the petitioner(referring to LP) claimed to have 138k+ agents at different PU and collation level with the agents having copy of the result given at the various level, and they also have the privilege of moving with the PO or collation officers from one level to the other, but they could not present a copy of any of the result given to any of those 138k+ agents neither do they presented any of such agent as a witness, that irrespective of the fact that Inec didn't give some necessary documents as alleged, the agents are in position to tender the copy given to them.
So of all the witness called by LP, no agent was called.

garfield1:


If you have limited knowledge of the law,keep silent then.in law,the burden to proof rest on the petitioner not the respondents.the respondent can only prove if the petitioner proves his case.the law also recognizes that there would be rigging and that the election won't be perfect but the rigging must be massive to the extent that it affects the final tally

does the law also regonizes inec not to be able to do simple arithmetic, because by my account, inec clearly gave tinubu the victory in Rivers state on collation day, but when the true copies of votes presented by inec it clearly showed obi won, when obi's team and the BBC and other independent observers also did the collation it clearly showed obi also won, I guess this was not evidence enough against inec, and tinubu.

OlujobaSamuel:

It wasn't a response specific for Rivers, it was a response for the petition itself.
A summary of it; she said the petitioner(referring to LP) claimed to have 138k+ agents at different PU and collation level with the agents having copy of the result given at the various level, and they also have the privilege of moving with the PO or collation officers from one level to the other, but they could not present a copy of any of the result given to any of those 138k+ agents neither do they presented any of such agent as a witness, that irrespective of the fact that Inec didn't give some necessary documents as alleged, the agents are in position to tender the copy given to them.
So of all the witness called by LP, no agent was called.

this is were the tribunal is wrong and why we say it is bias, it is not the duty of the tribunal to decide which evidence labour party should tender in court, provided whatever evidence they tender is legal and justify their case. It's just like a rape crime scene, imagine me taking a rapist to court that a rape occur and I present a CCTV footage of the event, and the judge dismissing my claims saying I should have presented a DNA as evidence,. Does this makes sense, when a CCTV footage can also serve as evidence, this is why I believe they were bias.

Shattuck:
I am not saying he won,he needs to prove he won,that's a fact, what I am saying is tinubu also wasn't able to defend how he won, or how he got 8m votes neither did inec, defend how tinubu won the election but yet a tribunal that claims to be unbiased declared him the winner, I made a reference to Rivers state also which inec claim tinubu won, but in reality Obi won Rivers state with verifiable evidence, why would an unbiased judiciary overlook this clear case of manipulation. My argument is not for obi to be declared winner, but about how tinubu came to be declared winner while overlooking all these errors by the judiciary.

My guy the only way for tinubu to prove he got 8m+ could have been if Peter obi show judiciary that from the result sheet his agent sign he scored 2m but wat inec announced was 1m u understand. With that the judiciary will now compel inec to explain to Nigerians why LP polling unit agents sheet scores and that of police that shows obi scored 2m is different from their own(inec).

Bravo Chi! You have done it again...proved me right once more. Side-stepping questions with no meaningful reply

Hyperchi:

So overnight Highness told u, ur first post was an intelligent one

okuta007:


Has anyone noticed that once a thread is opened about this PEPT result - an army of online miscreants defends on the thread to insult both the thread author who writes in favor of Obi calling the person IPOB or other unsavory names ? trying to bully the living daylights out of that person ?

I am not igbo, yoruba or hausa BUT My thing is - IF the the IGBOS are so hated and despised in Nigeria 🇳🇬 let’s all sign a petition today to call for a referendum so we can make them
leave Nigeria 🇳🇬 Yes let’s push them out so they can “go and perish” in their own dot region

They want to rule Nigeria 🇳🇬 we say NO, they want their own country called Biafra we say NO they want to vote 🗳 in any region they find themselves in Nigeria 🇳🇬 we say they can’t if they have a certain name they should stay at home - - they registered for voting and their PVC’s were thrown into the lagoon, forest and other places so they can’t get it —— their son who was on the ballot complained he was rigged out of the election- we yelled at him to go to court, he agreed to go we stated insulting him, —/ ever since if Obi attends any function we all gather here on nairaland to lambast his appearance at events — when he says anything we call him a liar, we call him every unprintable name under the sun

What is Obi’s crime? he dared to contest a presidential election - what has he done or said that no other politician hasn’t ?

Why this hate with so much bile of bitterness for Obi and Igbos in this forum ?

Is Obi the reason you can’t feed yourself today? Is Obi the reason your wife or girlfriend left you ? Is Obi the reason you can’t attain your personal goals in life ? (that’s if you have any in the first place) —-/ what amount did anyone pay you to invoke such hate on your spirit that you will wake up each day to harass and insult a man or members of his tribe online and offline without shame or restraint ?

The british who raped your mothers - sold your brothers and fathers into slavery and dehumanized your kings and ancestors do not get such hatred from you.., what are afraid of and why do you hate God”s human creation (Obi and the Ibos) so much ?

If you can’t honestly answer this question, you are worse than an animal - because even animals (cats and dogs) don’t fight each other this much like we fight and attack the Ibo person for no reason, off and online

I rest my case!

Have u also read what the igbos are saying about tinubu and nigeria.
If u say Nigerians don't want igbos to be president, the 6m+ votes Peter obi scored in last election na south Africa citizens be vote.
The party he stand to contest the election is it not in nigeria.
Politics is a game of interest, numbers and also to alien with area of majority vote especially if u are from minority part. Elected positions is not giving free or on emotions.

So sir u didn't rest ur case well.

Shantyken:

My guy the only way for tinubu to prove he got 8m+ could have been if Peter obi show judiciary that from the result sheet his agent sign he scored 2m but wat inec announced was 1m u understand. With that the judiciary will now compel inec to explain to Nigerians why LP polling unit agents sheet scores and that of police that shows obi scored 2m is different from their own(inec).

but he did maybe not up to the 2m plus, I know he should irregularities is some especially that of Rivers which happens to be the most popular.

Shattuck:
does the law also regonizes inec not to be able to do simple arithmetic, because by my account, inec clearly gave tinubu the victory in Rivers state on collation day, but when the true copies of votes presented by inec it clearly showed obi won, when obi's team and the BBC and other independent observers also did the collation it clearly showed obi also won, I guess this was not evidence enough against inec, and tinubu.

Primary results are on inec manual forms not on irev.what is on irev is secondary.obi should have proven his case with manual forms not online forms

Bros look at it this way, some of us too believe in irregularities in the votes declared for Obi in the South East, but we cannot prove it, although there are actual video evidences of voters intimidation and teenage voters in a couple of polling units. Shall we say therefore that the votes for Obi in his enclave was MASSIVELY RIGGED?

Shattuck:
but he did maybe not up to the 2m plus, I know he should irregularities is some especially that of Rivers which happens to be the most popular.

garfield1:


Primary results are on inec manual forms not on irev.what is on irev is secondary.obi should have proven his case with manual forms not online forms

but he did with the certified true copies he requested from inec, Abi my info is wrong?

Shattuck:
this is were the tribunal is wrong and why we say it is bias, it is not the duty of the tribunal to decide which evidence labour party should tender in court, provided whatever evidence they tender is legal and justify their case. It's just like a rape crime scene, imagine me taking a rapist to court that a rape occur and I present a CCTV footage of the event, and the judge dismissing my claims saying I should have presented a DNA as evidence,. Does this makes sense, when a CCTV footage can also serve as evidence, this is why I believe they were bias.

Smiles. I will speak on your analogy.
You present a cctv footage of the event, that is a first hand evidence, what will made the court request for a DNA is the accused claiming he is not the one in the footage.
Your agent is the first hand witness, they are the reason you are filing the petition ab initio (the only reason why you can claim you win or lose any election without considering the declared results is because of the information you got from your people on field), if you can't bring your people armed with evidence, how do you want anyone to trust a 3rd party to be speaking the truth?
See it this way, you had a biz transaction with me, both of us having witnesses, we all have a duplicate copy of the transaction, then I claim that there is a breach from you, in presenting evidence, I refused to bring my witness or tender my own copy of the transaction, I then insisted that you should go bring your own copy and your witness, if you are a judge, what would be your verdict?

OlujobaSamuel:

Smiles. I will speak on your analogy.
You present a cctv footage of the event, that is a first hand evidence, what will made the court request for a DNA is the accused claiming he is not the one in the footage.
Your agent is the first hand witness, they are the reason you are filing the petition ab initio (the only reason why you can claim you win or lose any election without considering the declared results is because of the information you got from your people on field), if you can't bring your people armed with evidence, how do you want anyone to trust a 3rd party to be speaking the truth?
See it this way, you had a biz transaction with me, both of us having witnesses, we all have a duplicate copy of the transaction, then I claim that there is a breach from you, in presenting evidence, I refused to bring my witness or tender my own copy of the transaction, I then insisted that you should go bring your own copy and your witness, if you are a judge, what would be your verdict?

I think my analogy still represents the true events, as per your analogy if I refuse to bring my witness provided I have other legal evidence that justifies my claim I don't see any problem with that, as regards why lp didn't provide agents at the tribunal remember LP was challenging the results for the entire state, when each state has over a thousand polling unit, wouldn't it have been too cumbersome if LP had brought thousands of polling unit agent into the court room? Would the tribunal have given each polling unit agent time to present their case? Remember that during the trial a time slot was allocated to each party, now if they where to plead their case polling unit by unit, you know they would run out of time and they also have other cases too like the certificate issues, double nomination to prove.

Shattuck:
I think my analogy still represents the true events, as per your analogy if I refuse to bring my witness provided I have other legal evidence that justifies my claim I don't see any problem with that, as regards why lp didn't provide agents at the tribunal remember LP was challenging the results for the entire state, when each state has over a thousand polling unit, wouldn't it have been too cumbersome if LP had brought thousands of polling unit agent into the court room? Would the tribunal have given each polling unit agent time to present their case? Remember that during the trial a time slot was allocated to each party, now if they where to plead their case polling unit by unit, you know they would run out of time and they also have other cases too like the certificate issues, double nomination to prove.

That's where they got it wrong, the tribunal is only meant for voting issues, every other issues (cert, drugs, nominations, etc) might be accepted or dismissed, so you can't bank on it.
Either the time is sufficient or not is immaterial, just present relevant witneses. About 10 of the 13 witnesses were disqualified because they have no capacity to speak on what they are saying. Imagine 10witness saying the result given to me at PU is Z while what was declared is Y, That's how the court has always want to see allegations of manipulation.

Shantyken:


Have u also read what the igbos are saying about tinubu and nigeria.
If u say Nigerians don't want igbos to be president, the 6m+ votes Peter obi scored in last election na south Africa citizens be vote.
The party he stand to contest the election is it not in nigeria.
Politics is a game of interest, numbers and also to alien with area of majority vote especially if u are from minority part. Elected positions is not giving free or on emotions.

So sir u didn't rest ur case well.

Go to court!