englishmart:
2 chronicles 9:25 and 1 King 4:26 are obviously talking about the same thing, but they don't add up, or maybe I'm wrong.

2 chronicles 9:25 says "And Solomon had 10,000 stalls for horses and chariots and 12,000 horsemen"

2 Kings 4:26 says "And Solomon had 40,000 stalls of horses for the chariots, and 12,000 men"

First says, "10,000 stalls for horses and chariots" while the second says, 40,000 stalls of horses for the chariots.
The semantics is befuddling. Could someone help me construe this?

Dtruthspeaker:


That is how witnesses report looks like. One sees 10,000 and left while the other see 40,000 before he left.

Sales boys have shown you. One says he saw 10,000 the other saw 32,550 in the same shop.

Iamanoited:
A STALL OF HORSES CONTAINS FOUR HORSES.
10'000 STALLS FOR HORSES WILL CONTAIN 40'000 HORSES. QED.

Dtruthspeaker:


That is how witnesses report looks like. One sees 10,000 and left while the other see 40,000 before he left.

Sales boys have shown you. One says he saw 10,000 the other saw 32,550 in the same shop.

englishmart:
2 chronicles 9:25 and 1 King 4:26 are obviously talking about the same thing, but they don't add up, or maybe I'm wrong.

2 chronicles 9:25 says "And Solomon had 4,000 stalls for horses and chariots and 12,000 horsemen"

2 Kings 4:26 says "And Solomon had 40,000 stalls of horses for the chariots, and 12,000 men"

The semantics is befuddling. Could someone help me construe this?

Iamanoited:
A STALL OF HORSES CONTAINS FOUR HORSES.
10'000 STALLS FOR HORSES WILL CONTAIN 40'000 HORSES. QED.

jaephoenix:

Na dis one dey confuse you? Lol.
Maybe you need to take a look at this thread.
https://www.nairaland.com/7659505/book-bible-gaffes

There are shitload of contradictions and outright lies in the bible

jaephoenix:

Clearly your English comprehension skills are very poor

englishmart:
2 chronicles 9:25 and 1 King 4:26 are obviously talking about the same thing, but they don't add up, or maybe I'm wrong.

2 chronicles 9:25 says "And Solomon had 4,000 stalls for horses and chariots and 12,000 horsemen"

2 Kings 4:26 says "And Solomon had 40,000 stalls of horses for the chariots, and 12,000 men"

The semantics is befuddling. Could someone help me construe this?

englishmart:
Two stories, different message. This is worrisome

Dtruthspeaker:


No. Just 2 witnesses different angles views.

LordIsaac:

Meaning neither of them was ‘inspired’ ? I ask because the HolySpirit cannot lie.

englishmart:
I thought it was inspired.

LordIsaac:

Meaning neither of them was ‘inspired’ ? I ask because the HolySpirit cannot lie.

Dtruthspeaker:


Clearly the inspiration is to tell us what they saw.

englishmart:
I thought it was inspired.

Caveatemptor:


This contradiction is minor now. Why not check out the Jesus resurrection stories in the four gospels which is supposed to be the foundation of Christianity.

xproducer:
It appears to be a simple Transcription related matter.

1 KINGS 4:26—HOW CAN THIS VERSE SAY SOLOMON HAD 40,000 STALLS WHEN 2 CHRONICLES 9:25 SAYS HE HAD ONLY 4,000 STALLS?
PROBLEM: In recording the prosperity of Solomon, this passage states that he had 40,000 stalls of horses for his chariots. However, 1 Chronicles 9:25 affirms that Solomon had only 4,000 stalls for horses. Which one is right?

SOLUTION: This is undoubtedly a copyist error. The ratio of 4,000 horses to 1,400 chariots, as found in the 2 Chronicles passage, is much more reasonable than a ratio of 40,000 to 1,400 found in the 1 Kings text. In the Hebrew language, the visual difference between the two numbers is very slight. The consonants for the number 40 are rbym,? while the consonants for the number 4 are rbh (the vowels were not written in the text). The manuscripts from which the scribe worked may have been smudged or damaged and have given the appearance of being forty thousand rather than four thousand. - https://defendinginerrancy.com/bible-solutions/1_Kings_4.26.php

Dtruthspeaker:


Inspired to testify what they saw.

SIRTee15:


It's the message that's inspired not the book.
In christianity, there's a difference btw the book and the message. This is key.

No one ever said God dictated verbatim to the scribes or prophets.
The prophets filled with the holy spirit received the message. The prophets then write down what they receive within the limitation of human knowledge and capacity.


The holy spirit preserves the message not the book.

He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant—not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
2 Corinthians 3.6

The word of God has no contradictions. If u looking contradictions on the letters, well they were written by imperfect men like yourself.
And that should tell u something about God.

englishmart:
2 chronicles 9:25 and 1 King 4:26 are obviously talking about the same thing, but they don't add up, or maybe I'm wrong.

2 chronicles 9:25 says "And Solomon had 4,000 stalls for horses and chariots and 12,000 horsemen"

2 Kings 4:26 says "And Solomon had 40,000 stalls of horses for the chariots, and 12,000 men"

The semantics is befuddling. Could someone help me construe this?

jaephoenix:

In other words, you want to contradict what the bible said. Remember the bible said its the complete word of god. No one is to add or subtract or second guess it. If you do, ita death. Try and read this your Bible at least

SIRTee15:


Here is my response to your resurrection contradiction claim.


ve gone thru the different resurrection accounts in the 4 gospel and the there's actually no contradiction at all.
In fact the different stories complement each other and when merged together the resurrection events makes logical sense



1. How many women visited the Tomb?

The important thing to note here is that none of the gospel writers said 'only' a particular number visited the tomb. They simply mentioned names of women they knew that visited the tomb.
actual logical contradiction requires exclusionary clauses such as “only x, y, and z were there and no one else” or “only three people witnessed incident a.” None of the Gospel texts do that here; hence, no demonstrable contradiction exists (see Matthew 28:1; Mark 16:1; Luke 24:1-10; John 20:1).

Gospel of John seemingly makes it like only Mary Magdalene visited the tomb until we get to John 20:2. Mary finds the tomb empty, runs to Peter and (presumably) John, and says the following, “They have taken away the Lord out of the tomb, and WE do not know where they have laid Him.”

In reporting the words of Mary, John reveals that there were others with Mary.

2. Number of angels

The area which has generated the most discussion concerns the angels who were at the tomb of Jesus. Matthew and Mark relate that one angel addressed the women, while Luke and John say that two angels were at the tomb. This seems to be a discrepancy, with Matthew and Mark knowing of only one angel while Luke and John speak of two. However, Matthew and Mark do not say that there was only one angel at the tomb, but that one angel spoke to the women.

This does not contradict Luke and John, for Matthew and Mark specify that one angel spoke, but they do not say there was only one angel present or only one angel spoke. Quite possibly, one of the angels served as the spokesman for the two, thus he was emphasized.


3. . Who rolled the stone away

The issue with this question is centrally dealing with whether the stone was rolled away from the tomb when the women arrived. Notice that all but one account are in definite agreement. Mark, Luke, and John all say the stone had been moved when the women arrived. It is only Matthew who reports, or appears to report, that the stone was moved as the women were there. So let’s take a careful reading of the verses in question.


Now after the Sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to look at the grave. And behold, a severe earthquake had occurred, for an angel of the Lord descended from heaven and came and rolled away the stone and sat upon it. (Mt. 28:1-2)

The event in verse 2 had already happened before the women arrived. They did not witness the earthquake or the angel rolling the stone. By the time they arrived the tomb, the stone was already rolled away. Matthew is only telling the readers how the stones was rolled away.


4. What happened after they left the tomb.

This is another area where we have a large degree of agreement between the Gospels. To varying degrees, the Gospels each report that the disciples were told. Or at least it was the intent to tell the disciples, which is all Matthew reveals. I will merge my explanation here with another seemingly contradiction which is who among the women saw Jesus.

If we study the accounts carefully, we can make the FF logical conclusion;

Mary Magdalene & the other women travel from Bethany to Jesus’ tomb.

Nearing the tomb, they notice the stone is rolled away. Mary runs to tell Peter and John while the rest of the women continued to the tomb.

With no corpse, empty tomb and encounter with strange men; the other women were initially shocked and took time for them to recover from these extraordinary encounter, until they got over their shock they told nobody.

Mary Magdalene returns to Jesus’ tomb with Peter and John.

Peter and John return to the house after seeing the empty tomb. Mary stays behind where she sees Jesus.

Afterwards, the other women returned to Bethany, stopping first in the city to report their findings to Clopas and other disciples. Thereafter, Jesus appears to the other women as they’re headed back to Bethany.

Another popular contradiction bible critics love to raise is the time the women visited the tomb which I will explain here.

All accounts indicate that it was early on the first day of the week. Matthew says it was as the day began to dawn. Mark, Luke and John all say “early”. The difficulty comes when we see John say that it was still dark, yet Mark say that the sun had risen.
Sunrise could vary in appearance depending on subjective observation. What is dark to some could be cloudy to another.
So these terms in reference to the same approximate time of day are not mutually exclusive.

Moreover, another explanation could be where the women journeyed from.
Earlier in the week some of the disciples lodged at Bethany, two miles from Jerusalem. It’s possible that the women were staying there for the Sabbath, and when John says it was “still dark”, he’s referring to the time they left Bethany and “went to the tomb”.
That’s more than enough time to go from “still dark” (Jn. 20:1) to “when the sun had risen” (Mk. 16:2).

Caveatemptor:



You have successfully shown that the bible is not an inspired word of an omniscient deity. It is filled up with myths plagiarised/stolen from ancient civilisations. That is why there are so many contradictions and conflicting stories because the different stories were compressed into its present formats by the Romans and the Catholic Church at the various councils of Nicaea,Constantinople,and Ephesis amoung others. These were the meetings where the Romans and their collaborators in the early Church decided which of the various books circulating around were canonical and those that were heresy.
Those that the church selected became the books of the Bible while those not selected were left out.
You need to read a bit more. The books in the Bible were written by men!

Dtruthspeaker:


Inspired to testify what they saw.

SIRTee15:


Focus on the resurrection story pls. This is what my post to u is about.
Not some conspiracy junks about early church history that's completely unfounded and lack any form of verifiable evidence- be it emperical or factual.

I don't have a problem debating early church history with u. In fact we will start with the first century AD where it all began.
I will bury u just like I did to your other wannabe atheist colleagues and some confused black jews. Checked my previous posts to see their grave yards.

But for now, pont out the contradictions in my explanation or the bible ressurection story.

SIRTee15:


I already defined to u what exactly is the word of God.
So I don't understand your point above.

THE WORD OF GOD IS THE MESSAGE not the letter.
U should learn the classification of exegesis in the bible. Words are men in the bible are not expressive and not inspired.

The biblical writer never thought or said they were writing God’s words verbatim . Instead, they were writing what they knew, what they heard, what they experienced about God.

The hard copy bible is a collection of words about God, not a collection of God’s words to us.

The message in the hard copy bible is the word of God and this is what is inspired by the holy spirit. That is what should not be added or removed.

SIRTee15:


Focus on the resurrection story pls. This is what my post to u is about.
Not some conspiracy junks about early church history that's completely unfounded and lack any form of verifiable evidence- be it emperical or factual.

I don't have a problem debating early church history with u. In fact we will start with the first century AD where it all began.
I will bury u just like I did to your other wannabe atheist colleagues and some confused black jews. Checked my previous posts to see their grave yards.

But for now, pont out the contradictions in my explanation or the bible ressurection story.