Let's Answer This Question Sincerely. Is There Still Hope For Nigeria? by Dogalmighty17: 10:28pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
I ask this question with all heaviness of heart. The ever eternal optimist that I am, I grew up with faith and belief in this country. Yes, things generally weren't optimal then. The military was in power for 16 years of my life. Excuses could be made then that the military couldn't really provide the elusive 'dividends of democracy'. Advocacy was made for civilian rule. We got it in 1999. 24 years later under Democratic rule, is Nigeria better off?
Here are some shocking indices. 1. Poverty rate. As at 2004, the earliest record available under the Democratic government, Nigerias poverty rate was 54.4%. In 2023, it is 63%.
2. Out of school children. In 2004, Nigeria had a percentage of 30.04 % of out of school children. As at today, Nigeria has the highest number of out of school children in the world.
3. Extrajudicial killings. Extrajudicial killings in Nigeria as at 2004 was 997. They numbered 4,545 in 2022.
4. The exchange rate. The naira to dollar was exchanging for 135 naira in 2004. By 2022 ending, it was 768.
5. Nigeria's debt profile. Nigeria's debt profile in 2004 was 46.25 billion dollars. In 2022, it ended at 103.1 billion dollars. 6. Happiness Index As at 2015, Nigeria was the 78th happiest country in the world(there was a not too distant time before 2015 when we ranked happiest). At at 2023, Nigeria has the worst happiness index in the world.
I can go on and on. Should I even mention how far we've fallen in the global corruption index? We all know the answer to that. My overall point is, there is NO SINGLE METRIC that Nigeria has improved on since the emergence of democracy. We have consistently gone backward in everything.
If you notice, I've based my start date on 2004. Not for any reason but that consistent records on the above indexes weren't consistent pre-2004.
Now, I am not in anyway saying life in Nigeria was better pre-democratic rule. In fact, I am of the view that military rule put Nigeria in the mess it is now. The military never allowed strong institutional development. A country is only as sound as the institutions governing it. In this, both military and civilian governments have failed.
So, why is Nigeria in the mess it is currently? We have allowed ethnic and tribal sentiments to becloud our sense of judgement and reasoning. We have consistently elected failures into office and we will keep doing so. I used to be of the view that the uneducated voters in Nigeria were the problem. However, that appears not to be the case. It is the sound intellectuals in Nigeria, who package deadbeats and present them as viable candidates to be voted for.
What sound marketable antecident did Obasanjo, Jonathan, Buhari and Tinubu have that they were voted into power? In what world was Obasanjo better than Olu Falae? We missed it in 1999.
Are technocrats the solution? Not in Nigeria. Every person at the top echelon of the CBN, PHCN, FAAN, NPA, NMA and every top government agency, are academically sound people who can do exploits in any other country in the world. Why are they all failures in Nigeria? Why?
Why does Nigeria have the worst performing currency in Africa? Why can't the technocrats in charge of electricity increase MW beyond the measly 4000 megawatts Nigeria has struggled with for over 15 years now? Why is it that during conflict, neighbors resort to arms, destruction and killing instead of calling up law enforcement agents? Why can't Nigeria get anything right? This is shameful.
So, I ask again. Is there hope for this country?
I'll answer. So long as we keep embracing a culture of lies, a culture of subjugating the truth, a culture that places loyalty over competence, there is no hope for this country. Our politicians aren't really the issue. They come from among us.
Our togetherness is not the issue. Our unity isn't the problem. If Nigeria divides today, the east will slide into bloodshed, the north will slide into dictatorship. Only the yoruba will maintain some form of democracy (I'm not yoruba).
The above paragraph, gives a glimpse of why Nigeria got to where it is. The North was very okay with dictatorship so long as a northerner was there. The East, never really cared for governance. They thrive in chaos. Till today, only the east has no cohesive power and voting bloc in Nigeria and that will never change. The West, the yoruba, do have democracy engraved in them. But they are stuck with seeking some form of validation from the north.
Nigeria can't work until these ethnic cleavages are handled. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Let's Answer This Question Sincerely. Is There Still Hope For Nigeria? by lordm(m): 10:29pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
There is hope bro. 1 Like |
Re: Let's Answer This Question Sincerely. Is There Still Hope For Nigeria? by DaddyCoool: 10:31pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
Short answer: NO Because the problem lies in the very foundation, the structure, the very people. It is like building a house on shitty foundation and asking if changing the curtains and decorating the rooms will save it! 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Let's Answer This Question Sincerely. Is There Still Hope For Nigeria? by MrsTwrite(f): 10:34pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
NOPE! 1 Like |
Re: Let's Answer This Question Sincerely. Is There Still Hope For Nigeria? by mbaise1000: 10:35pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
Anyone who WANTS to say yes may want to give hltheir reasons for thinking there is sti hope for nigeria, same with anyone who knows it is long finished, those in denial will also tell us why they think there is any hope , as for me, I will be here to read comments and judge. Meanwhile, to the the tribal bigots, when you ban anyone from here, don't you realize that you are the ones that lost? There are many places that anyone can go and continue doing what they are doing, This war going on here will not change anyone's mind, those you are banning are winning the war,. The first sign is when you ban those that say the TRUTH because the truth hurts you. The truth will never stop hurting, banning those that don't agree with you, won't help your cause, it simply embolden those on the side of truth |
Re: Let's Answer This Question Sincerely. Is There Still Hope For Nigeria? by BafanaBafana: 10:36pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
No hope 1 Like |
Re: Let's Answer This Question Sincerely. Is There Still Hope For Nigeria? by DaddyCoool: 10:43pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
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Re: Let's Answer This Question Sincerely. Is There Still Hope For Nigeria? by LOVEALAIGBO: 10:44pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
See this one looking for who to rope into his stupid blame game and lamentations! Just leave the Igbo/south-east out of your rant and focus on those who have been colluding and conniving between and amongst themselves to produce president by hook or crook! 'The east thrive in chaos and have no cohesive power or voting bloc' indeed! Just imagine the rubbish! ![](/faces/huh.png) The support and bloc votes Ndigbo gave GEJ and Peter Obi is what? |
Re: Let's Answer This Question Sincerely. Is There Still Hope For Nigeria? by Igboid: 10:47pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
Dogalmighty17: I ask this question with all heaviness of heart. The ever eternal optimist that I am, I grew up with faith and belief in this country. Yes, things generally weren't optimal then. The military was in power for 16 years of my life. Excuses could be made then that the military couldn't really provide the elusive 'dividends of democracy'. Advocacy was made for civilian rule. We got it in 1999. 24 years later under Democratic rule, is Nigeria better off?
Here are some shocking indices. 1. Poverty rate. As at 2004, the earliest record available under the Democratic government, Nigerias poverty rate was 54.4%. In 2023, it is 63%.
2. Out of school children. In 2004, Nigeria had a percentage of 30.04 % of out of school children. As at today, Nigeria has the highest number of out of school children in the world.
3. Extrajudicial killings. Extrajudicial killings in Nigeria as at 2004 was 997. They numbered 4,545 in 2022.
4. The exchange rate. The naira to dollar was exchanging for 135 naira in 2004. By 2022 ending, it was 768.
5. Nigeria's debt profile. Nigeria's debt profile in 2004 was 46.25 billion dollars. In 2022, it ended at 103.1 billion dollars. 6. Happiness Index As at 2015, Nigeria was the 78th happiest country in the world(there was a not too distant time before 2015 when we ranked happiest). At at 2023, Nigeria has the worst happiness index in the world.
I can go on and on. Should I even mention how far we've fallen in the global corruption index? We all know the answer to that. My overall point is, there is NO SINGLE METRIC that Nigeria has improved on since the emergence of democracy. We have consistently gone backward in everything.
If you notice, I've based my start date on 2004. Not for any reason but that consistent records on the above indexes weren't consistent pre-2004.
Now, I am not in anyway saying life in Nigeria was better pre-democratic rule. In fact, I am of the view that military rule put Nigeria in the mess it is now. The military never allowed strong institutional development. A country is only as sound as the institutions governing it. In this, both military and civilian governments have failed.
So, why is Nigeria in the mess it is currently? We have allowed ethnic and tribal sentiments to becloud our sense of judgement and reasoning. We have consistently elected failures into office and we will keep doing so. I used to be of the view that the uneducated voters in Nigeria were the problem. However, that appears not to be the case. It is the sound intellectuals in Nigeria, who package deadbeats and present them as viable candidates to be voted for.
What sound marketable antecident did Obasanjo, Jonathan, Buhari and Tinubu have that they were voted into power? In what world was Obasanjo better than Olu Falae? We missed it in 1999.
Are technocrats the solution? Not in Nigeria. Every person at the top echelon of the CBN, PHCN, FAAN, NPA, NMA and every top government agency, are academically sound people who can do exploits in any other country in the world. Why are they all failures in Nigeria? Why?
Why does Nigeria have the worst performing currency in Africa? Why can't the technocrats in charge of electricity increase MW beyond the measly 4000 megawatts Nigeria has struggled with for over 15 years now? Why is it that during conflict, neighbors resort to arms, destruction and killing instead of calling up law enforcement agents? Why can't Nigeria get anything right? This is shameful.
So, I ask again. Is there hope for this country?
I'll answer. So long as we keep embracing a culture of lies, a culture of subjugating the truth, a culture that places loyalty over competence, there is no hope for this country. Our politicians aren't really the issue. They come from among us.
Our togetherness is not the issue. Our unity isn't the problem. If Nigeria divides today, the east will slide into bloodshed, the north will slide into dictatorship. Only the yoruba will maintain some form of democracy (I'm not yoruba).
The above paragraph, gives a glimpse of why Nigeria got to where it is. The North was very okay with dictatorship so long as a northerner was there. The East, never really cared for governance. They thrive in chaos. Till today, only the east has no cohesive power and voting bloc in Nigeria and that will never change. The West, the yoruba, do have democracy engraved in them. But they are stuck with seeking some form of validation from the north.
Nigeria can't work until these ethnic cleavages are handled.
You are talking nonsense as usual. In the old regional system of government, it was the West that slipped into Operation Wetie and wild wild west chaos. In the precolonial period, it was same West that fought Each other for years in the name of Kiriji. The North had the Tiv uprising. The most peaceful region in Nigeria before 1970 was the East, because the Igbo never believed in conquest or expansionism. Thank you. 5 Likes |
Re: Let's Answer This Question Sincerely. Is There Still Hope For Nigeria? by NastiLord: 10:51pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
Hope is far from Nigeria |
Re: Let's Answer This Question Sincerely. Is There Still Hope For Nigeria? by Chinjo2: 10:59pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
Truth be told, with the way INEC handled the last election, and the conducts of Politicians and Contractors, Nigeria is indeed a hopeless country. 1 Like |
Re: Let's Answer This Question Sincerely. Is There Still Hope For Nigeria? by Floky215: 11:00pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
Dogalmighty17: I ask this question with all heaviness of heart. The ever eternal optimist that I am, I grew up with faith and belief in this country. Yes, things generally weren't optimal then. The military was in power for 16 years of my life. Excuses could be made then that the military couldn't really provide the elusive 'dividends of democracy'. Advocacy was made for civilian rule. We got it in 1999. 24 years later under Democratic rule, is Nigeria better off?
Here are some shocking indices. 1. Poverty rate. As at 2004, the earliest record available under the Democratic government, Nigerias poverty rate was 54.4%. In 2023, it is 63%.
2. Out of school children. In 2004, Nigeria had a percentage of 30.04 % of out of school children. As at today, Nigeria has the highest number of out of school children in the world.
3. Extrajudicial killings. Extrajudicial killings in Nigeria as at 2004 was 997. They numbered 4,545 in 2022.
4. The exchange rate. The naira to dollar was exchanging for 135 naira in 2004. By 2022 ending, it was 768.
5. Nigeria's debt profile. Nigeria's debt profile in 2004 was 46.25 billion dollars. In 2022, it ended at 103.1 billion dollars. 6. Happiness Index As at 2015, Nigeria was the 78th happiest country in the world(there was a not too distant time before 2015 when we ranked happiest). At at 2023, Nigeria has the worst happiness index in the world.
I can go on and on. Should I even mention how far we've fallen in the global corruption index? We all know the answer to that. My overall point is, there is NO SINGLE METRIC that Nigeria has improved on since the emergence of democracy. We have consistently gone backward in everything.
If you notice, I've based my start date on 2004. Not for any reason but that consistent records on the above indexes weren't consistent pre-2004.
Now, I am not in anyway saying life in Nigeria was better pre-democratic rule. In fact, I am of the view that military rule put Nigeria in the mess it is now. The military never allowed strong institutional development. A country is only as sound as the institutions governing it. In this, both military and civilian governments have failed.
So, why is Nigeria in the mess it is currently? We have allowed ethnic and tribal sentiments to becloud our sense of judgement and reasoning. We have consistently elected failures into office and we will keep doing so. I used to be of the view that the uneducated voters in Nigeria were the problem. However, that appears not to be the case. It is the sound intellectuals in Nigeria, who package deadbeats and present them as viable candidates to be voted for.
What sound marketable antecident did Obasanjo, Jonathan, Buhari and Tinubu have that they were voted into power? In what world was Obasanjo better than Olu Falae? We missed it in 1999.
Are technocrats the solution? Not in Nigeria. Every person at the top echelon of the CBN, PHCN, FAAN, NPA, NMA and every top government agency, are academically sound people who can do exploits in any other country in the world. Why are they all failures in Nigeria? Why?
Why does Nigeria have the worst performing currency in Africa? Why can't the technocrats in charge of electricity increase MW beyond the measly 4000 megawatts Nigeria has struggled with for over 15 years now? Why is it that during conflict, neighbors resort to arms, destruction and killing instead of calling up law enforcement agents? Why can't Nigeria get anything right? This is shameful.
So, I ask again. Is there hope for this country?
I'll answer. So long as we keep embracing a culture of lies, a culture of subjugating the truth, a culture that places loyalty over competence, there is no hope for this country. Our politicians aren't really the issue. They come from among us.
Our togetherness is not the issue. Our unity isn't the problem. If Nigeria divides today, the east will slide into bloodshed, the north will slide into dictatorship. Only the yoruba will maintain some form of democracy (I'm not yoruba).
The above paragraph, gives a glimpse of why Nigeria got to where it is. The North was very okay with dictatorship so long as a northerner was there. The East, never really cared for governance. They thrive in chaos. Till today, only the east has no cohesive power and voting bloc in Nigeria and that will never change. The West, the yoruba, do have democracy engraved in them. But they are stuck with seeking some form of validation from the north.
Nigeria can't work until these ethnic cleavages are handled.
Is it not clear to you yet...!!! Grab,snatch and run away with as much money and things you can.. !!! If you are waiting for Nigeria to be good then you would die an expecting man...!! 1 Like |
Re: Let's Answer This Question Sincerely. Is There Still Hope For Nigeria? by Raskimonojendor: 11:02pm On Sep 15, 2023 |
Yes. I once thought there was no hope for Lagos state till Asiwaju came on board. Prior to Asiwaju, Lagos was a mess. |
Re: Let's Answer This Question Sincerely. Is There Still Hope For Nigeria? by Dogalmighty17: 12:09am On Sep 16, 2023 |
LOVEALAIGBO: See this one looking for who to rope into his stupid blame game and lamentations! Just leave the Igbo/south-east out of your rant and focus on those who have been colluding and conniving between and amongst themselves to produce president by hook or crook!
'The east thrive in chaos and have no cohesive power or voting bloc' indeed! Just imagine the rubbish! The support and bloc votes Ndigbo gave GEJ and Peter Obi is what? My post is not argumentative. I don't see any reason why you have to be needlessly defensive instead of addressing listed facts. Is reasoning far from you? Does voting happen in a vacuum? I still maintain that until the igbo learn how to play inclusive politics, they will never achieve their full potential in the Nigerian space. The igbo had the senate president slot at some point. How many times did igbo men lead the charge for impeaching an igbo senate president? Over 4 times I believe. Nigeria needs its major constituent tribes to get their act together. The rest of us are tired of suffering because of the indolent stupidity of the hausa, igbo and yoruba. The 3 of you are the reason why Nigeria is in the mess it is. It is not by screaming biafra all the time. The Igbo need to step up. The hausa need to step up. The Yoruba need to step up! |
Re: Let's Answer This Question Sincerely. Is There Still Hope For Nigeria? by Dogalmighty17: 12:18am On Sep 16, 2023 |
Igboid:
You are talking nonsense as usual. In the old regional system of government, it was the West that slipped into Operation Wetie and wild wild west chaos. In the precolonial period, it was same West that fought Each other for years in the name of Kiriji. The North had the Tiv uprising. The most peaceful region in Nigeria before 1970 was the East, because the Igbo never believed in conquest or expansionism.
Thank you. I really don't get it. Why is it that you the igbo have to become defensive and point fingers at other tribes? Why? I drew my focal point from 2004. You went far back to the 60s and 70s? In what way did what you posted further give elucidation to the body, spirit and overall content of my post? If what you say is true, why haven't the igbo shown that in the recent Nigerian Democratic experiment? I am siding no tribe. I am from a minority tribe in the Nigerian political space. However, on behalf of every minority tribe in the country, this is us giving you the igbo, hausa and yoruba notice. We are sick and tired of your sh.t. You guys need to get your act together. |
Re: Let's Answer This Question Sincerely. Is There Still Hope For Nigeria? by JagabanB: 12:45am On Sep 16, 2023 |
mbaise1000: Anyone who WANTS to say yes may want to give hltheir reasons for thinking there is sti hope for nigeria, same with anyone who knows it is long finished, those in denial will also tell us why they think there is any hope , as for me, I will be here to read comments and judge. Meanwhile, to the the tribal bigots, when you ban anyone from here, don't you realize that you are the ones that lost? There are many places that anyone can go and continue doing what they are doing, This war going on here will not change anyone's mind, those you are banning are winning the war,. The first sign is when you ban those that say the TRUTH because the truth hurts you. The truth will never stop hurting, banning those that don't agree with you, won't help your cause, it simply embolden those on the side of truth Before I reply you, out of school children are children who refused or their parents/guardians refused to put them in school. Is there still hope for Nigèria? Nigèria is the people, the only hope for the society is what every single person in the country does. Looking at the people that make up Nigèria, is there hope for Nigèria? The answer is no, should we divide and go into our individual regions? The same people will make up those region and still there's no hope for those regions. The measure of hope for the country should start from individual basis. U can't desire what u can't afford or create, the avèràge Nîgèrîan desire a great, sophisticated and successful society, how much is that Nîgeriàn contributing to achieve this. U feel u have the capacity to transform the society, get into politics, make the necessary changes, changes don't come from mere wishing and talking, people have been talking since 1960, did it grow the society? The answer is no. I read a story on Zulu people in SA and their leaders, most of the development in KZN in SA was done some leaders there whose houses were not so great to write about, look at the transformation the impact of those guys did in KZN in SA, they built standard institutions which they can all afford, hospitals etc in Nigeria, the average Nigerian will build anything that's just comfortable and slate it with price and justify it that he only deals with people who has money. Bottom line is, the average Nigerian is wórsé than the Nîgeriàn polîtician, that's why u see d society getting worse because those in 1980's were better than those today, and the politicians today will be better than the ones in another 10 years, that's a fact, the problem is with the average Nigerian not the political class, more incompetence and wickedness is being injected into the political class from the masses, new polîticians new level of wickedness. 2 Likes |
Re: Let's Answer This Question Sincerely. Is There Still Hope For Nigeria? by Igboid: 1:21am On Sep 16, 2023 |
Dogalmighty17:
I really don't get it. Why is it that you the igbo have to become defensive and point fingers at other tribes? Why? I drew my focal point from 2004. You went far back to the 60s and 70s?
In what way did what you posted further give elucidation to the body, spirit and overall content of my post? If what you say is true, why haven't the igbo shown that in the recent Nigerian Democratic experiment?
I am siding no tribe. I am from a minority tribe in the Nigerian political space. However, on behalf of every minority tribe in the country, this is us giving you the igbo, hausa and yoruba notice. We are sick and tired of your sh.t. You guys need to get your act together. Leave Ndiigbo out your sick ignorant analysis. Since 1999 to today, SE have always voted in Bloc. We voted OBJ in 1999 and 2003, we voted for Yaradua in 2007 and GEJ in 2011 and 2015 in bloc. We voted Atiku in Bloc in 2019 and Obi in 2023. No other region delivers a bloc vote like SE does. If you have issues with your Hausa and Yoruba overlords, go settle with them, leave Ndiigbo alone. 5 Likes |
Re: Let's Answer This Question Sincerely. Is There Still Hope For Nigeria? by ValarDoharis: 4:27am On Sep 16, 2023 |
History shows that the East was more democratic than any other region because the Eze has council of chiefs where deliberations are made and decisions taken. Before the coming of the white, the East was peaceful unlike the West that were fighting themselves to death. Just to put it straight. Having said that, there is no hope for Nigeria because most policies are taken to suppress Igbos and that has kept Nigeria down! The rest of the country are united against Igbos and that has been Nigeria's albatross! Dogalmighty17: I ask this question with all heaviness of heart. The ever eternal optimist that I am, I grew up with faith and belief in this country. Yes, things generally weren't optimal then. The military was in power for 16 years of my life. Excuses could be made then that the military couldn't really provide the elusive 'dividends of democracy'. Advocacy was made for civilian rule. We got it in 1999. 24 years later under Democratic rule, is Nigeria better off?
Here are some shocking indices. 1. Poverty rate. As at 2004, the earliest record available under the Democratic government, Nigerias poverty rate was 54.4%. In 2023, it is 63%.
2. Out of school children. In 2004, Nigeria had a percentage of 30.04 % of out of school children. As at today, Nigeria has the highest number of out of school children in the world.
3. Extrajudicial killings. Extrajudicial killings in Nigeria as at 2004 was 997. They numbered 4,545 in 2022.
4. The exchange rate. The naira to dollar was exchanging for 135 naira in 2004. By 2022 ending, it was 768.
5. Nigeria's debt profile. Nigeria's debt profile in 2004 was 46.25 billion dollars. In 2022, it ended at 103.1 billion dollars. 6. Happiness Index As at 2015, Nigeria was the 78th happiest country in the world(there was a not too distant time before 2015 when we ranked happiest). At at 2023, Nigeria has the worst happiness index in the world.
I can go on and on. Should I even mention how far we've fallen in the global corruption index? We all know the answer to that. My overall point is, there is NO SINGLE METRIC that Nigeria has improved on since the emergence of democracy. We have consistently gone backward in everything.
If you notice, I've based my start date on 2004. Not for any reason but that consistent records on the above indexes weren't consistent pre-2004.
Now, I am not in anyway saying life in Nigeria was better pre-democratic rule. In fact, I am of the view that military rule put Nigeria in the mess it is now. The military never allowed strong institutional development. A country is only as sound as the institutions governing it. In this, both military and civilian governments have failed.
So, why is Nigeria in the mess it is currently? We have allowed ethnic and tribal sentiments to becloud our sense of judgement and reasoning. We have consistently elected failures into office and we will keep doing so. I used to be of the view that the uneducated voters in Nigeria were the problem. However, that appears not to be the case. It is the sound intellectuals in Nigeria, who package deadbeats and present them as viable candidates to be voted for.
What sound marketable antecident did Obasanjo, Jonathan, Buhari and Tinubu have that they were voted into power? In what world was Obasanjo better than Olu Falae? We missed it in 1999.
Are technocrats the solution? Not in Nigeria. Every person at the top echelon of the CBN, PHCN, FAAN, NPA, NMA and every top government agency, are academically sound people who can do exploits in any other country in the world. Why are they all failures in Nigeria? Why?
Why does Nigeria have the worst performing currency in Africa? Why can't the technocrats in charge of electricity increase MW beyond the measly 4000 megawatts Nigeria has struggled with for over 15 years now? Why is it that during conflict, neighbors resort to arms, destruction and killing instead of calling up law enforcement agents? Why can't Nigeria get anything right? This is shameful.
So, I ask again. Is there hope for this country?
I'll answer. So long as we keep embracing a culture of lies, a culture of subjugating the truth, a culture that places loyalty over competence, there is no hope for this country. Our politicians aren't really the issue. They come from among us.
Our togetherness is not the issue. Our unity isn't the problem. If Nigeria divides today, the east will slide into bloodshed, the north will slide into dictatorship. Only the yoruba will maintain some form of democracy (I'm not yoruba).
The above paragraph, gives a glimpse of why Nigeria got to where it is. The North was very okay with dictatorship so long as a northerner was there. The East, never really cared for governance. They thrive in chaos. Till today, only the east has no cohesive power and voting bloc in Nigeria and that will never change. The West, the yoruba, do have democracy engraved in them. But they are stuck with seeking some form of validation from the north.
Nigeria can't work until these ethnic cleavages are handled.
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Re: Let's Answer This Question Sincerely. Is There Still Hope For Nigeria? by ValarDoharis: 4:31am On Sep 16, 2023 |
You made outrageously false claims against Igbos and you want us to accept it? The only nationality that gives bloc votes is ths Igbo! Dogalmighty17:
I really don't get it. Why is it that you the igbo have to become defensive and point fingers at other tribes? Why? I drew my focal point from 2004. You went far back to the 60s and 70s?
In what way did what you posted further give elucidation to the body, spirit and overall content of my post? If what you say is true, why haven't the igbo shown that in the recent Nigerian Democratic experiment?
I am siding no tribe. I am from a minority tribe in the Nigerian political space. However, on behalf of every minority tribe in the country, this is us giving you the igbo, hausa and yoruba notice. We are sick and tired of your sh.t. You guys need to get your act together. 1 Like |
Re: Let's Answer This Question Sincerely. Is There Still Hope For Nigeria? by optionalY09: 4:32am On Sep 16, 2023 |
Your hope is in heaven this place is for robot the world rulers want as many people to die |
Re: Let's Answer This Question Sincerely. Is There Still Hope For Nigeria? by creativehubb: 4:53am On Sep 16, 2023 |
Think of hope for your family, that should concern you more, after that think of hope for your community, state and region... in Nigeria some are rich, some are poor, no carry the matter for head like gala. |
Re: Let's Answer This Question Sincerely. Is There Still Hope For Nigeria? by Ngozi123(f): 1:38pm On Sep 16, 2023 |
Dogalmighty17: I ask this question with all heaviness of heart. The ever eternal optimist that I am, I grew up with faith and belief in this country. Yes, things generally weren't optimal then. The military was in power for 16 years of my life. Excuses could be made then that the military couldn't really provide the elusive 'dividends of democracy'. Advocacy was made for civilian rule. We got it in 1999. 24 years later under Democratic rule, is Nigeria better off?
Here are some shocking indices. 1. Poverty rate. As at 2004, the earliest record available under the Democratic government, Nigerias poverty rate was 54.4%. In 2023, it is 63%.
2. Out of school children. In 2004, Nigeria had a percentage of 30.04 % of out of school children. As at today, Nigeria has the highest number of out of school children in the world.
3. Extrajudicial killings. Extrajudicial killings in Nigeria as at 2004 was 997. They numbered 4,545 in 2022.
4. The exchange rate. The naira to dollar was exchanging for 135 naira in 2004. By 2022 ending, it was 768.
5. Nigeria's debt profile. Nigeria's debt profile in 2004 was 46.25 billion dollars. In 2022, it ended at 103.1 billion dollars. 6. Happiness Index As at 2015, Nigeria was the 78th happiest country in the world(there was a not too distant time before 2015 when we ranked happiest). At at 2023, Nigeria has the worst happiness index in the world.
I can go on and on. Should I even mention how far we've fallen in the global corruption index? We all know the answer to that. My overall point is, there is NO SINGLE METRIC that Nigeria has improved on since the emergence of democracy. We have consistently gone backward in everything.
If you notice, I've based my start date on 2004. Not for any reason but that consistent records on the above indexes weren't consistent pre-2004.
Now, I am not in anyway saying life in Nigeria was better pre-democratic rule. In fact, I am of the view that military rule put Nigeria in the mess it is now. The military never allowed strong institutional development. A country is only as sound as the institutions governing it. In this, both military and civilian governments have failed.
So, why is Nigeria in the mess it is currently? We have allowed ethnic and tribal sentiments to becloud our sense of judgement and reasoning. We have consistently elected failures into office and we will keep doing so. I used to be of the view that the uneducated voters in Nigeria were the problem. However, that appears not to be the case. It is the sound intellectuals in Nigeria, who package deadbeats and present them as viable candidates to be voted for.
What sound marketable antecident did Obasanjo, Jonathan, Buhari and Tinubu have that they were voted into power? In what world was Obasanjo better than Olu Falae? We missed it in 1999.
Are technocrats the solution? Not in Nigeria. Every person at the top echelon of the CBN, PHCN, FAAN, NPA, NMA and every top government agency, are academically sound people who can do exploits in any other country in the world. Why are they all failures in Nigeria? Why?
Why does Nigeria have the worst performing currency in Africa? Why can't the technocrats in charge of electricity increase MW beyond the measly 4000 megawatts Nigeria has struggled with for over 15 years now? Why is it that during conflict, neighbors resort to arms, destruction and killing instead of calling up law enforcement agents? Why can't Nigeria get anything right? This is shameful.
So, I ask again. Is there hope for this country?
I'll answer. So long as we keep embracing a culture of lies, a culture of subjugating the truth, a culture that places loyalty over competence, there is no hope for this country. Our politicians aren't really the issue. They come from among us.
Our togetherness is not the issue. Our unity isn't the problem. If Nigeria divides today, the east will slide into bloodshed, the north will slide into dictatorship. Only the yoruba will maintain some form of democracy (I'm not yoruba).
The above paragraph, gives a glimpse of why Nigeria got to where it is. The North was very okay with dictatorship so long as a northerner was there. The East, never really cared for governance. They thrive in chaos. Till today, only the east has no cohesive power and voting bloc in Nigeria and that will never change. The West, the yoruba, do have democracy engraved in them. But they are stuck with seeking some form of validation from the north.
Nigeria can't work until these ethnic cleavages are handled.
Out of the three major ethnic groups in Nigeria, it is the Igbos who are the most democratic. "The Igbo have no king" is a common mantra that has existed in Igbo civilisations for thousands of years. Please do some more research on Igbo culture before typing this. 1 Like |
Re: Let's Answer This Question Sincerely. Is There Still Hope For Nigeria? by gidgiddy: 3:11pm On Sep 16, 2023 |
There is no hope for Nigeria. Things will only get worse until the country collapses and disintegrates |
Re: Let's Answer This Question Sincerely. Is There Still Hope For Nigeria? by mbaise1000: 7:34pm On Sep 17, 2023 |
JagabanB:
Before I reply you, out of school children are children who refused or their parents/guardians refused to put them in school. Is there still hope for Nigèria? Nigèria is the people, the only hope for the society is what every single person in the country does. Looking at the people that make up Nigèria, is there hope for Nigèria? The answer is no, should we divide and go into our individual regions? The same people will make up those region and still there's no hope for those regions. The measure of hope for the country should start from individual basis. U can't desire what u can't afford or create, the avèràge Nîgèrîan desire a great, sophisticated and successful society, how much is that Nîgeriàn contributing to achieve this. U feel u have the capacity to transform the society, get into politics, make the necessary changes, changes don't come from mere wishing and talking, people have been talking since 1960, did it grow the society? The answer is no. I read a story on Zulu people in SA and their leaders, most of the development in KZN in SA was done some leaders there whose houses were not so great to write about, look at the transformation the impact of those guys did in KZN in SA, they built standard institutions which they can all afford, hospitals etc in Nigeria, the average Nigerian will build anything that's just comfortable and slate it with price and justify it that he only deals with people who has money. Bottom line is, the average Nigerian is wórsé than the Nîgeriàn polîtician, that's why u see d society getting worse because those in 1980's were better than those today, and the politicians today will be better than the ones in another 10 years, that's a fact, the problem is with the average Nigerian not the political class, more incompetence and wickedness is being injected into the political class from the masses, new polîticians new level of wickedness. Thank you very much for the lesson. Note taken. If I understand you well, you said there is no hope for nigeria because the majority poor are worse than the minority wealthy, that the minority wealthy are emboldend by the majority poor, so iniquity shall keep increasing. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Let's Answer This Question Sincerely. Is There Still Hope For Nigeria? by Twist4u: 9:05pm On Sep 17, 2023 |
History don't repeat itself, it is humans that repeat history. When they refuse to learn from the past.
Injustice, nepotism was the salient reason for last war in Nigeria.
The same pattern has been loudly enshrined by the Buhari government and it seems Tinubu is replicating buhari's steps faster than I anticipated.
It is human nature to resist oppression. In fullness of time it will boomerang. |
Re: Let's Answer This Question Sincerely. Is There Still Hope For Nigeria? by yemmit90: 9:18pm On Sep 17, 2023 |
Out cultures and traditions will never promote any single development in the next 5 centuries. Disintegration won't help us because the humans intellectual capacity to rescue the country is not in existence.
Humans intellectual capacity I meant is not the same as being educated, it is the innate wisdom to see one society as a basis or antecedents to individual development. It is ability to see life as vanity or what you should enjoy collectively. It is ability to see humans as nature and not instruments of nature. It is quite unfortunate that black race did not processed this innate gifts from their maker. When the likes of Plato, Aristotle, Thomas Hobbe, John lock, down to Lenin were seriously fighting the disparity and humans excess in their respective states, our African greates were busy promoting culture of greed, dominace and slavery. 1 Like |