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Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by jumper524(m): 7:35pm On Sep 23, 2023
seanfer:


There is no way APC won't have votes allocated to them on the results sheets.... Except NNPP allocated all the votes to themselves
very possible in kano state.
Those men abuse their rigging ability no caps.
Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by garfield1: 12:28am On Sep 24, 2023
fergie001:

APC presented 33 PU agents as witnesses who on oath said there was over-voting in their PUs, these facts were not countered.

BVAS machines confirmed that the figures INEC called out were higher than those accredited by BVAS. Some complained of unsigned ballot papers, and violence.

INEC in their replies corroborated that there was violence and certain POs at gunpoint were mandated to count already thumbprinted ballot papers and upload to IReV which they did.

Now NNPP should have also provided their own unsigned ballot papers of APC doing the same thing because that's what APC did, NNPP didn't.

They provided only 1 witness just to affirm that Abba is a member of NNPP, not even one PU agent.

INEC whose responsibility it was to say why their staff didn't sign or stamp the ballot papers said Nothing. INEC did not even provide POs as witnesses to explain what really happened.

NNPP have one saving grace now, it's left for their lawyers to figure that out.... I am still reading the judgement though.

True,same school boy mistake degi lawyers made in bayelsa.do not take chances in court.Apc had the burden of proof and discharged it by providing illegal ballot papers thumbprinted for nnpp.it now shifted to inec and nnpp who either had to bring presiding officers or agents to prove that those votes were legal and ballots were from inec ballot booklet which they failed.it simply means this ground was unchallenged and deemed true.inec admitting to violence,overvoting,illegal thumbprinting is damaging
Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by garfield1: 12:30am On Sep 24, 2023
ValarDoharis:
It would seem that as usual, INEC was compromised so there was no intention to defend their ineptitude. How can 33 polling units witness be sufficient for dedcution of more than at more 6000 votes? Out of 1000 polling units, they called only 33 witnesses!

Why is the election not declared inconclusive when margin of victory is 36k and canceled votes is 70k?

With apc leading by 34,000, what difference will it make? In that rerun,less than 35000 will turnout
Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by garfield1: 12:35am On Sep 24, 2023
fergie001:

Gawuna didn't need to be a Party.

The SC in Buhari & Ors v Obasanjo & 265 Ors ruled categorically that non-joinder of the Political Party does not invalidate the petition.

Buhari had challenged OBJ's victory petitioning over 200 people without the PDP.

133(1) of the EA:
An election petition may be presented by one or more of the following persons;

A candidate in an election; or
A political party that participated in the election.

However, the tribunal's verdict was that Gawuna was winner but that was fundamentally wrong, it should have been to the Petitioner.

A cross appeal should remedy this
Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by garfield1: 12:39am On Sep 24, 2023
IfnobeGod20:

That would be corrected at the appeal because APC only lied to the tribunal. The votes on the ballot papers suppose to have been collated bearing all parties but APC makes it look as if it was only NNPP that got all the votes. That one on it own is fraud and the appeal court judge will not have it funny on APC and their lawyers for misleading the judges at the tribunal.

What nonsense is this? I thought you were smart and intelligent.Apc challenged 165,000 nnpp votes of nnpp.apc counted the 1 mil votes garnered by nnpp and spotted 165,000 invalid votes which they brought to court.why didn't nnpp challenge apc votes?
Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by Safyqueen: 2:06am On Sep 24, 2023
Malroux:
No sane person takes Karishika or Kperogi serious. He is a double faced human who supports what interest him like the Muslim/Muslim ticket but will criticize what he doesn't like all in the name of being a blogger.

Oil dey your head I swear. I never knew kperogi is as biased as this. Every learned lawyer that followed this Kano tribunal case knew that NNPP defeated itself for APC due to negligence, unseriousness and juvenile representation with amateur lawyers.
What is Kperogi saying?
APC provides 73 witnesses from 44 local government but NNPP provide only one. The governor and the INEC sued along has no witness.

All the ballot papers brought to the court from the inspection of voting materials done by APC with the help of a forensic expert in the presence of NNPP representative that was neither signed nor stamped are all having NNPP voted in it. If NNPP couldn't hire a good lawyer to nullify that evidence, and to worsen the case the NNPP sole witness, Mr Bappa Bichi said he can bear witness that the forensic person is an expert, for GOD'S sake how do you want the judges to deny the admissibility of that evidence. Now how do you think those number of votes will not affect only NNPP?
And so on. Let me stop here.
Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by ValarDoharis: 3:22am On Sep 24, 2023
The law is the law!
garfield1:


With apc leading by 34,000, what difference will it make? In that rerun,less than 35000 will turnout
Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by garfield1: 5:36am On Sep 24, 2023
ValarDoharis:
The law is the law!

Nnpp will still lose however
Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by Aiel123: 7:38am On Sep 24, 2023
garfield1:


Nnpp will still lose however
Does an appeal allows for new petition different from what was pleaded at the tribunal?
Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by ValarDoharis: 8:40am On Sep 24, 2023
If people lose when the law is justly applied, it reduces bitterness
garfield1:


Nnpp will still lose however
Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by garfield1: 9:28am On Sep 24, 2023
Aiel123:

Does an appeal allows for new petition different from what was pleaded at the tribunal?

No.when is delta judgment
Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by BALLOSKI: 11:45am On Sep 24, 2023
Ikaeniyan0:
APC will still win at the appeal and supreme court, they were able to prove their case
They have all their own ballot papers stamped and signed? Lol


And the margin of victory is less than canceled votes already. Why not called for a rerun in the affected places? This judgment won't stand the test of appeal.
Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by Ikaeniyan0: 11:47am On Sep 24, 2023
BALLOSKI:
They have all their own ballot papers stamped and signed? Lol


And the margin of victory is less than canceled votes already. Why not called for a rerun in the affected places? This judgment won't stand the test of appeal.
Whether APC own is stamp and sign at this point does not matter again.

The appeal and supreme court will uphold the tribunal judgement.
Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by Aiel123: 12:22pm On Sep 24, 2023
garfield1:


No.when is delta judgment
I don't know the date.
Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by IfnobeGod20: 7:10pm On Sep 27, 2023
garfield1:


What nonsense is this? I thought you were smart and intelligent.Apc challenged 165,000 nnpp votes of nnpp.apc counted the 1 mil votes garnered by nnpp and spotted 165,000 invalid votes which they brought to court.why didn't nnpp challenge apc votes?
I thought you're smart enough but you lacked common sense. If you didn't lacked it, you would have known that it was ballot papers that NNPP declared that they were not stamped and not signed that were challenged and not over a million votes recorded for NNPP as you advanced here. Hence, for every ballot paper not stamped and signed, each ballot paper will contain votes of political parties and not only NNPP but the gbajue party declared only NNPP votes to the tribunal but left other political parties votes undeclared, to look as if all votes cast were only for NNPP. You see that you should have applied your common sense and not bury it. APC was wise by half as a gbajue party.
Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by garfield1: 9:26pm On Sep 27, 2023
IfnobeGod20:

I thought you're smart enough but you lacked common sense. If you didn't lacked it, you would have known that it was ballot papers that NNPP declared that they were not stamped and not signed that were challenged and not over a million votes recorded for NNPP as you advanced here. Hence, for every ballot paper not stamped and signed, each ballot paper will contain votes of political parties and not only NNPP but the gbajue party declared only NNPP votes to the tribunal but left other political parties votes undeclared, to look as if all votes cast were only for NNPP. You see that you should have applied your common sense and not bury it. APC was wise by half as a gbajue party.

If you had commonsense,you would know that gbajue party is labour party as referred to soyinka.
Apc simply counted the one million votes of nnpp and spotted about 165000 invalid votes and brought it to court which it deducted.what is wrong with that? Why not tell nnpp to also challenge votes of Apc
Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by IfnobeGod20: 12:24am On Sep 28, 2023
garfield1:


If you had commonsense,you would know that gbajue party is labour party as referred to soyinka.
Apc simply counted the one million votes of nnpp and spotted about 165000 invalid votes and brought it to court which it deducted.what is wrong with that? Why not tell nnpp to also challenge votes of Apc
As at now the only gbajue party we have is APC and her members, who went counting votes scored alone by NNPP in all unstamped and unsigned ballot papers but left votes scored by her party and other parties. That was a high scale gbajue we talked about. The scolding your party will chop at Appeal Court will be worst than how Supreme Court scolded Afe Babalola and Olanipekun as APC's legal council.
Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by garfield1: 2:09am On Sep 28, 2023
IfnobeGod20:

As at now the only gbajue party we have is APC and her members, who went counting votes scored alone by NNPP in all unstamped and unsigned ballot papers but left votes scored by her party and other parties. That was a high scale gbajue we talked about. The scolding your party will chop at Appeal Court will be worst than how Supreme Court scolded Afe Babalola and Olanipekun as APC's legal council.

What political foolishness. What is the business of Apc with the votes of other parties in Kano? Did apc take other parties to court besides nnpp? Did other parties outscore apc apart from nnpp? Is the case not apc vs nnpp? i told you in the beginning that you know nothing about law just like all obidients and you over justified this.let me simplify it for you.in a civil case or election petition,a petitioner only takes the winner,his party and inec to court.he attacks the particulars of the three of them not all parties sir.it is apc vs nnpp in this case and not apc vs nnpp,pdp,lp.you compare or tabulate your votes against the winning party not all parties except you want it so.just as obi took tinubu to court and challenged his cert,citizenship, qualifications without suing atiku or kwankwaso,he can also challenge tinubu's votes and ballot papers alone and not all the ballots.the target is the assets of the winning party or candidate.
Apc in Kano not just challenged the ballots,they challenged the membership and qualifications of the governor without challenging that of other parties.apc challenged nnpp votes and by challenging votes,you cross-check and investigates nnpp ballot papers.can you get it now? Is commonsense so uncommon? If you are pained,please tell nnpp to also challenge apc ballot papers.this is what obi should have done rather than the national foolery he displayed
Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by Truths9ja: 4:47am On Sep 28, 2023
Kano tribunal judgement is a replica of Osun tribunal judgement.

It will not stand in the appellate courts.

Tribunal said ADELEKE didn't win the election never OYETOLA but APPEAL returned his victory, SUPREME has confirmed him. God here is ABBA 🙏

"We are not perturbed... We are prepared to retrieve the mandate that was given to us by the people of Kano State," the New Nigeria Peoples Party (NNPP) legal adviser, Robert Hon reacts to the Kano Governorship Tribunal judgement.

Had Tribunal removed 165,663 votes, Gawuna would have increased, or were they returned invalid votes? If it was invalid votes, then what about the "margin of lead" of election law?
If you remove 165k votes for Abba, it will be Abba has 1,019, 602 - 165,663 = 853,939
And Gawuna has 890,705 votes.
Difference is 890,705-853,939=36,766 votes
Since the votes that were removed from Abba Gida Gida are invalid votes, how can Gawuna win election with a difference that is not more than invalid voters? Don't forget there are invalid votes during the election.
What does this injustice look like? By the grace of God this us temporary, it will never be, God will take our rights in the next court.
That's why they use Zoom, it's internet, tyrants haters of progress.
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Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by IfnobeGod20: 6:39am On Sep 28, 2023
garfield1:


What political foolishness. What is the business of Apc with the votes of other parties in Kano? Did apc take other parties to court besides nnpp? Did other parties outscore apc apart from nnpp? Is the case not apc vs nnpp? i told you in the beginning that you know nothing about law just like all obidients and you over justified this.let me simplify it for you.in a civil case or election petition,a petitioner only takes the winner,his party and inec to court.he attacks the particulars of the three of them not all parties sir.it is apc vs nnpp in this case and not apc vs nnpp,pdp,lp.you compare or tabulate your votes against the winning party not all parties except you want it so.just as obi took tinubu to court and challenged his cert,citizenship, qualifications without suing atiku or kwankwaso,he can also challenge tinubu's votes and ballot papers alone and not all the ballots.the target is the assets of the winning party or candidate.
Apc in Kano not just challenged the ballots,they challenged the membership and qualifications of the governor without challenging that of other parties.apc challenged nnpp votes and by challenging votes,you cross-check and investigates nnpp ballot papers.can you get it now? Is commonsense so uncommon? If you are pained,please tell nnpp to also challenge apc ballot papers.this is what obi should have done rather than the national foolery he displayed
Please why always suspending your IQ in discourse? Do you think you're having discourse with a novice or toddler, that don't know anything at all? Well, it's never a new thing to me because you always believed you know it all and tends to justify truth with wrong. Many people on this forum know you for who you are. Always arguing blindly.
All this your explanation is kindergarten and even primary school pupils can decipher all, let alone a widely read man like me.
Get this and let it sink into your cerebellum. Votes that were deducted, were votes of the unstamped and unsigned ballot papers as adduced to in the judgement delivered, see the extract below:
"The court deducted the invalid votes stating that the ballot papers (165,663) were not stamped or signed and were therefore invalid".
The big question is, does the ballot papers that were not stamped and signed only contained NNPP votes and no other parties votes there?. Common sense.
That alone is a game of misleading the tribunal because there is no way such ballot papers would not contain votes of other parties like APC. Why was APC clever by half and not declared their own votes in those unstamped and unsigned ballot papers, so that it would be deducted along, the way NNPP votes was deducted? Gbajue style. Common sense is not always common.
Re: Why The Kano Tribunal Verdict Can’t Stand - Farooq Kperogi by garfield1: 9:17am On Sep 28, 2023
IfnobeGod20:

Please why always suspending your IQ in discourse? Do you think you're having discourse with a novice or toddler, that don't know anything at all? Well, it's never a new thing to me because you always believed you know it all and tends to justify truth with wrong. Many people on this forum know you for who you are. Always arguing blindly.
All this your explanation is kindergarten and even primary school pupils can decipher all, let alone a widely read man like me.
Get this and let it sink into your cerebellum. Votes that were deducted, were votes of the unstamped and unsigned ballot papers as adduced to in the judgement delivered, see the extract below:
"The court deducted the invalid votes stating that the ballot papers (165,663) were not stamped or signed and were therefore invalid".
The big question is, does the ballot papers that were not stamped and signed only contained NNPP votes and no other parties votes there?. Common sense.
That alone is a game of misleading the tribunal because there is no way such ballot papers would not contain votes of other parties like APC. Why was APC clever by half and not declared their own votes in those unstamped and unsigned ballot papers, so that it would be deducted along, the way NNPP votes was deducted? Gbajue style. Common sense is not always common.

More foolishness on didplay.yes commonsense is not common.according to the ground 3 of apc,votes belonging to nnpp were invalid and they counted nnpp votes.why should apc count its own votes? Is apc challenging itself or nnpp? How do you reason? Are you ok? As obi was challenging tinubu qualification,why didn't obi also question his own qualification.? Stop disgracing yourself. Apc decided to simply concentrate and Target nnpp votes,let nnpp do so.i know you are crying,cry more boy.swerve

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