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Re: If Ghadaffi Had Been A Nigerian by duduspace(m): 4:30pm On Oct 21, 2011
He might have died a lot earlier than yesterday while testing the Odeeshi.
Re: If Ghadaffi Had Been A Nigerian by Nobody: 4:33pm On Oct 21, 2011
mufikings:

FACTS ABOUT COL GADHAFI AND LIBYA:

·                     There was no electricity bill in Libya; electricity was free for all its citizens

·                     There was no interest on loans, banks in Libya are state-owned and loans given to all its citizens at 0% interest by law

·                     Home considered a human right in Libya –Gaddafi vowed that his parents would not get a house until everyone in Libya had a home. Gaddafi’s father has died,  while him, his wife and his mother are still living in a tent

·                     All newly weds in Libya receive $60,000 Dinar (US$50,000) by the government to buy their first apartment so to help start up the family

·                     Education and medical treatments are free in Libya. Before Gaddafi only 25% of Libyans are literate. Today the figure is 83%

·                     Should Libyans want to take up farming career, they would receive farming land, a farming house, equipments, seeds and livestock to kick-start their farms –all for free

·                     If Libyans cannot find the education or medical facilities they need in Libya, the government funds them to go abroad for it – not only free but they get US$2,300/month accommodation and car allowance

·                     In Libya, if a Libyan buys a car, the government subsidized 50% of the price

·                     The price of petrol in Libya is $0.14 (N22) per litre

·                     Libya has no external debt and its reserves amount to $150 billion – now frozen globally

·                     If a Libyan is unable to get employment after graduation the state would pay the average salary of the profession as if he or she is employed until employment is found.

·                     A portion of Libyan oil sale is, credited directly to the bank accounts of all Libyan citizens

·                     A mother who gave birth to a child receive US$5,000

·                     Gaddafi carried out the world’s largest irrigation project, known as the Great Man-Made River project, to make water readily available throughout the desert country

Under this bad man called Gaddafi, Libyans had the highest standard of living in Africa. In 2010, the United Nations Development Programmed rated Libya as having the highest ranking in its Human Development Index for Africa. In terms of the world, the UNDP HDI statistics considered Libya better than countries such as Saudi Arabia, Russia, Brazil and Turkey.

Nigeria was rated one of the worst developed nations in the world in terms of the Human Development Indices for both Africa and the world. Countries such as Ghana, Cameroon, Benin Republic, Togo and even poverty-stricken Bangladesh were ranked as better than Nigeria. Even worse, Sao Tome and Príncipe that Nigeria donates money to, was said to have a better standard of living than we do.

Gaddafi’s Libya had free health care, interest free loans from banks, free education and subsidized housing. Libyan’s schooling abroad had access to not only finance for their studies but recognition for engaging in scholarly activities. While our university system progressively loses value like termite-infested wood and our graduates can’t even write essays much less books, Libya had a literacy rate of around 90% with women receiving an almost equivalent exposure to education as men. Of course, our rating is somewhere far behind them, even Tanzania and Gabon are doing much better than we are.

Petrol in Libya in March this year was the equivalent of 19 Naira per litre, subsidized by Gaddafi’s government without complaint, while in Nigeria successive thieving governments have attempted to yoke the masses into perpetual slavery by increasing the cost of petrol each year, now they are threatening to cut out subsidy and leave us with fuel at 142 Naira per litre next year.

Nigerian refineries catering to 180 million people have a combined installed capacity of less than 460,000 barrels of crude oil per day, yet we’re lucky if we get 75% of this production capacity.

Under Gadaffi, Libya’s production capacity in its refineries was for 378,000 barrels. Their population is 6.4 million people. They only use about 220,000 barrels per day for domestic uses and export the rest.

Libya under Gaddafi had total installed electric generation capacity of 6,248MW for their 6.4 million people. Nigeria  have 4,000MW installed but we only see about 3,000MW of this capacity performing for 180 million people.

The inevitable in life is CHANGE and no man can claim monopoly of knowledge, I think that have warranted some Libyans for a forceful change.

Nevertheless, if Gaddafi have done so much for his people, I think having him in Nigeria will be a blessings to us.

So What's the Problem with Libyans? The long rule? Or what? Col. GADHAFI, needs to rule Nigeria for 500yrs! Pls we need Gaddafi like type



@ bolded,do you know how much ghadaffy was worth??how many libyans are worth 1% of that??and pls do us all a very big favor,move your deluded alqeida brainwashed self to libya and go and enjot the stuff ghadaffy gave to libyans
Re: If Ghadaffi Had Been A Nigerian by gare(f): 4:38pm On Oct 21, 2011
that was the Good part of Gaddafi, but he was also into killings of anyone that stoop up against him
Re: If Ghadaffi Had Been A Nigerian by Nobody: 5:25pm On Oct 21, 2011
with all these Nigerians dying to die for ghadaffy,how come i am watching channels news and see libyans rejoicing,not cnn,not msnbc etc but channels news
Re: If Ghadaffi Had Been A Nigerian by 9icelag: 6:02pm On Oct 21, 2011
Reggie2:


Abraham Lincoln once said that no man is good enough to govern another man without the other's consent. No matter how good Ghedaffi was, he still needed the consent of the governed; 42 years were not 42 days.  
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Okija_juju link=topic=786530.msg9389602#msg9389602 date=1319206187:
true talk

ARE YOU SERIOUS?! HE did all this for Libyans?!

Well!! Why dont you move over there and leave Nigeria alaone!!

The grass always looks greener on the other side until you reach there .Gbam if they were happy with him they wont say he should go

If the Libyans said they didnt want him anymore, the least he could have done was hold an election, present himself as a candidate and let the libyans decide who they want as a ruler. Stop spreading rubbish propaganda here jor!! angry

That man was an Animal.
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Re: If Ghadaffi Had Been A Nigerian by darhood(m): 10:09pm On Oct 21, 2011
Please what prompt them to kill this man then, if he had done all this much
Re: If Ghadaffi Had Been A Nigerian by evatee(m): 11:36pm On Oct 21, 2011
If people like OBJ and IBB still exist here in Nigeria, Gadaffi wldnt av lasted long if he had been a Nigerian. He must have eaten Apple d same way Abacha ate.

@Toch1
in response to yur comment, fink Mugabe shld be the next.
Re: If Ghadaffi Had Been A Nigerian by adconline(m): 11:41pm On Oct 21, 2011
[b]FACTS ABOUT COL GADHAFI AND LIBYA:

· There was no electricity bill in Libya; electricity was free for all its citizens

· There was no interest on loans, banks in Libya are state-owned and loans given to all its citizens at 0% interest by law

· Home considered a human right in Libya –Gaddafi vowed that his parents would not get a house until everyone in Libya had a home. Gaddafi’s father has died, while him, his wife and his mother are still living in a tent

· All newly weds in Libya receive $60,000 Dinar (US$50,000) by the government to buy their first apartment so to help start up the family

· Education and medical treatments are free in Libya. Before Gaddafi only 25% of Libyans are literate. Today the figure is 83%

· Should Libyans want to take up farming career, they would receive farming land, a farming house, equipments, seeds and livestock to kick-start their farms –all for free

· If Libyans cannot find the education or medical facilities they need in Libya, the government funds them to go abroad for it – not only free but they get US$2,300/month accommodation and car allowance

· In Libya, if a Libyan buys a car, the government subsidized 50% of the price

· The price of petrol in Libya is $0.14 (N22) per litre

· Libya has no external debt and its reserves amount to $150 billion – now frozen globally

· If a Libyan is unable to get employment after graduation the state would pay the average salary of the profession as if he or she is employed until employment is found.

· A portion of Libyan oil sale is, credited directly to the bank accounts of all Libyan citizens

· A mother who gave birth to a child receive US$5,000

· Gaddafi carried out the world’s largest irrigation project, known as the Great Man-Made River project, to make water readily available throughout the desert country

Under this bad man called Gaddafi, Libyans had the highest standard of living in Africa. In 2010, the United Nations Development Programmed rated Libya as having the highest ranking in its Human Development Index for Africa. In terms of the world, the UNDP HDI statistics considered Libya better than countries such as Saudi Arabia, Russia, Brazil and Turkey.

Nigeria was rated one of the worst developed nations in the world in terms of the Human Development Indices for both Africa and the world. Countries such as Ghana, Cameroon, Benin Republic, Togo and even poverty-stricken Bangladesh were ranked as better than Nigeria. Even worse, Sao Tome and Príncipe that Nigeria donates money to, was said to have a better standard of living than we do.

Gaddafi’s Libya had free health care, interest free loans from banks, free education and subsidized housing. Libyan’s schooling abroad had access to not only finance for their studies but recognition for engaging in scholarly activities. While our university system progressively loses value like termite-infested wood and our graduates can’t even write essays much less books, Libya had a literacy rate of around 90% with women receiving an almost equivalent exposure to education as men. Of course, our rating is somewhere far behind them, even Tanzania and Gabon are doing much better than we are.

Petrol in Libya in March this year was the equivalent of 19 Naira per litre, subsidized by Gaddafi’s government without complaint, while in Nigeria successive thieving governments have attempted to yoke the masses into perpetual slavery by increasing the cost of petrol each year, now they are threatening to cut out subsidy and leave us with fuel at 142 Naira per litre next year.

Nigerian refineries catering to 180 million people have a combined installed capacity of less than 460,000 barrels of crude oil per day, yet we’re lucky if we get 75% of this production capacity.

Under Gadaffi, Libya’s production capacity in its refineries was for 378,000 barrels. Their population is 6.4 million people. They only use about 220,000 barrels per day for domestic uses and export the rest.

Libya under Gaddafi had total installed electric generation capacity of 6,248MW for their 6.4 million people. Nigeria have 4,000MW installed but we only see about 3,000MW of this capacity performing for 180 million people.

The inevitable in life is CHANGE and no man can claim monopoly of knowledge, I think that have warranted some Libyans for a forceful change.

Nevertheless, if Gaddafi have done so much for his people, I think having him in Nigeria will be a blessings to us.

So What's the Problem with Libyans? The long rule? Or what? Col. GADHAFI, needs to rule Nigeria for 500yrs! Pls we need Gaddafi like type[/b]

How come all his kids and family members had western education and training overseas?
How come no hospital in Libya is  amongst the 10 best in Africa?
How come no hotel  in Libya is in top 10 in Africa?
How come Libyan state oil company is not  well run like Saudi Aramco or PDVSA of Venezuela?
How come no university in Libya is in Africa's top 10?
How come he had oversea doctors and nurses?

The list is endless,
Re: If Ghadaffi Had Been A Nigerian by Kobojunkie: 11:47pm On Oct 21, 2011
^^^(I have one more to add to your list please) How come back in March, Ghaddafi decided to pay his people a measly $2000 each to pacify them? I mean people who have $50,000 and all of the above would think $2000 a joke, don't you think. grin grin grin
Re: If Ghadaffi Had Been A Nigerian by BlackLibya: 12:25am On Oct 22, 2011
Here is a good article over what prompted them to kill ghaddafi, the uprising started in the cyrenica region of libya, which has always been loyal to the libyan monarchy.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/print/270293
Re: If Ghadaffi Had Been A Nigerian by Kobojunkie: 1:22am On Oct 22, 2011
You know when they say "THERE IS NO SMOKE WITHOUT FIRE", what people mean  undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided An Uprising would definitely need to start from somewhere, even if from Ghaddafi's own home town. However, to keep that fire burning, there has to be VALIDS REASONS . . . Now, go out and investigate what these reasons were for 6.5 million people to choose to ENDURE 8 STRAIGHT MONTHS of, HELL, just so they can get rid of this man.
Re: If Ghadaffi Had Been A Nigerian by Kobojunkie: 2:13am On Oct 22, 2011
BlackLibya:

You do realize he offered compromises and agreements but NATO rejected them and said he had to go? I remember hearing somewhere that he did offer elections but the idea was rejected because they said he would cheat, and NATO agreed.

Be honest, in what African country where they have said they would offer elections, has the international community said NO because they would not be fair? Where do all these people in these videos on youtube come from waving green flags if they dont support ghaddafi?
Instead of lazily posted UNRESEARCHED rambles, why not spend more time actually researching these things to understand what was really offered and WHY It was rejected, and also the party that actually rejected it. Ghaddafi made no OFFERS to NATO.


http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2011/06/201161613564341905.html
Re: If Ghadaffi Had Been A Nigerian by Ranoscky(m): 3:58am On Oct 22, 2011
Re: If Ghadaffi Had Been A Nigerian

Ehen . . . Wetin wan hapun b4 ?

Nothin new under the sun, bro!
Re: If Ghadaffi Had Been A Nigerian by Remii(m): 7:46am On Oct 22, 2011
mikron:

He would ve been an hausa man. They are power drunk  not forgetting the sit tight syndrome which they posess. Ironically they (libyans) are also muslims. Abacha tried to be a life president but he failed. (died). Such things cannot happen here in naija. Our multi-Ethnicity status as a nation will not permit that.

Yet the longest Nigerian ruler was Yakubu Gowon, that was removed via a coup after 9 years and OBJ that wanted third term after 4 +8 years of governing Nigeria, both are Christains and none Hausa to my knowledge. Can't Nigerians discuss without religious comment? Why so much hatred for Islam and Hausa? Why?
Re: If Ghadaffi Had Been A Nigerian by novaman: 8:20am On Oct 22, 2011
he has a Nigeria blood in him, his mother was a Nigeria. He was actually on his way to Nigeria when they killed him. He wanted to contest the next election in 2015 using his Nigeria passport.
Re: If Ghadaffi Had Been A Nigerian by toboy: 9:51am On Oct 22, 2011
nigeria would have been better than any african country and the west dare not play with us. life, health care . free education and extensive agriculture would have been ours
Re: If Ghadaffi Had Been A Nigerian by Wahala90: 10:22am On Oct 22, 2011
How come all his kids and family members had western education and training overseas?
How come no hospital in Libya is amongst the 10 best in Africa?
How come no hotel in Libya is in top 10 in Africa?
How come Libyan state oil company is not well run like Saudi Aramco or PDVSA of Venezuela?
How come no university in Libya is in Africa's top 10?
How come he had oversea doctors and nurses?

Who be this? First, must their hotel or hospital or university be in the best 10? Secondly, I challenge your claim of not having the best 10. List the best 10 hotels, hospitals and universities in Africa.
Re: If Ghadaffi Had Been A Nigerian by toboy: 10:30am On Oct 22, 2011
How come all his kids and family members had western education and training overseas?
How come no hospital in Libya is amongst the 10 best in Africa?
How come no hotel in Libya is in top 10 in Africa?
How come Libyan state oil company is not well run like Saudi Aramco or PDVSA of Venezuela?
How come no university in Libya is in Africa's top 10?
How come he had oversea doctors and nurses? quote]
just keep how coming!!! you hear
Re: If Ghadaffi Had Been A Nigerian by Builder: 2:49pm On Oct 22, 2011
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
which kind human being you be, despite something is free doesnt mean it should be amongst the top 10. dem use top 10 do una? anyways back to the topic, if gadaffi were a nigeria, nigeria would have been a peaceful and socialist country where folks can earn a good living and no corruption, yes we may have no election but we can good roads, electricity, social amenities and good infrastructure, even with all the sanctions levelled against the comrade and his people his acheivements are there to be seen. RIP Comrade Gadaffi, u will surely be missed
Re: If Ghadaffi Had Been A Nigerian by Konjour(m): 3:01pm On Oct 22, 2011
All his female guards would have borne about 3 children each for him.
Re: If Ghadaffi Had Been A Nigerian by Nobody: 4:53pm On Oct 22, 2011
Wahala90:

Who be this? First, must their hotel or hospital or university be in the best 10? Secondly, I challenge your claim of not having the best 10. List the best 10 hotels, hospitals and universities in Africa.
were you not the ones saying libyans are living better than everybody else in Africa? so their instituitions should be amongst the best in Africa,just like saying chelsea and city are spending money on their players and their teams is not up to scratch,arsenal no dey spend and dem no fit win anything ala Nigeria while city,utd and chelsea dey speand and dem dey win things ala LIBYA? so their instituitions should be amongst the best in Africa
simple logic
Re: If Ghadaffi Had Been A Nigerian by Abiboy09: 4:57pm On Oct 22, 2011
The Untold Part of Gaddafi Read More,
http://incometranslation..com/p/lates-news.html
Re: If Ghadaffi Had Been A Nigerian by bereal16(m): 5:02pm On Oct 22, 2011
I prefer to have a Ghadaffi rule this country,  at least we are sure of the basic amenities. The so called democracy we have today, what do we have to show for it! Politicians still loot money,  and nothing is done for the masses, all we hear is the same old story,  A country like Venezuela has up to 15 oil refineries but Nigeria will prefer to export crude oil and import fuel, Wat a shame,
Re: If Ghadaffi Had Been A Nigerian by adconline(m): 5:04pm On Oct 22, 2011
Who be this? First, must their hotel or hospital or university be in the best 10? Secondly, I challenge your claim of not having the best 10. List the best 10 hotels, hospitals and universities in Africa.

It's not my job on NL to educate you on the best institutions and countries in Africa, go and do your research.  You missed  your high school debating society's rule no 1. Dont challenge the opposing team with "that's not true" because it does not win debates, facts do.
Re: If Ghadaffi Had Been A Nigerian by menik(m): 9:42pm On Oct 22, 2011
Let the ignorant listen and rethink, how long shall Africa be in the dark?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2WGNtk5oBo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KQAp6HQPAE
Re: If Ghadaffi Had Been A Nigerian by Ranoscky(m): 1:11am On Oct 23, 2011
Taaaaaaalk, I'm listenin.
Re: If Ghadaffi Had Been A Nigerian by merjo: 5:08pm On Oct 23, 2011
;Dwell lets tank God he is not
Re: If Ghadaffi Had Been A Nigerian by koolJ1(f): 2:44pm On Oct 26, 2011
novaman:

he has a Nigeria blood in him, his mother was a Nigeria. He was actually on his way to Nigeria when they killed him. He wanted to contest the next election in 2015 using his Nigeria passport.
kolomental case
Re: If Ghadaffi Had Been A Nigerian by koolJ1(f): 2:45pm On Oct 26, 2011
novaman:

he has a Nigeria blood in him, his mother was a Nigeria. He was actually on his way to Nigeria when they killed him. He wanted to contest the next election in 2015 using his Nigeria passport.
kolomental case
Re: If Ghadaffi Had Been A Nigerian by Ranoscky(m): 4:55pm On Oct 26, 2011
^^ Your profile pic is so [b]f[/b]uckin RIGHT, my dear!

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