sketcherJ:
which work do you currently do now, guarantor?

a professional guarantor. How did you figure?

Is it the full sch fee, house rent and upkeep dat amount to 35-40m?
Or
It is just the upkeep alone dat amount to 35-40m?

fullclub:
my dream was that immediately I came over, i and my dependant will search for jobs.. work and pay bill. but that is not feasible as I am seeing it.

i started this process with 15 million naira then when naira nose dive i had to borrowed extra 15 million to top it with interest of almost 2 million naira. landed in uk, started seeing the reality on ground

i have been in UK since 1 month plus. but getting a job as a migrant or new commer without UK experience is not easy.
in fact i have sent over 200 job application for cleaner, care assistant etc but all came with a sorry we have moved on to the next stage or you don't have uk experience.

school fees has to be paid. everyone here in tight corner... school has sent mail threatening to report to the immigration if school fees is not paid in the next few weeks to most Nigerians here.

no job, house rent is expensive.. going for 450 to 600 pounds per month.

travelling through student route is not really easy because you have to balance between work and school.. 'even at that where is the job as a new migrant.

Please if you are considering coming to UK for now.. please put on hold. the crowd from Indians, Pakistani, Malaysia, china etc is overwhelming.

it's not worth selling your home to be here.

i sleep in indeed and all this job site.. still yet nothing, bills mounting up.

all my colleague i came with are still with no jobs in other cities

after spending 13 million coming here with extra 3k dollars now almost exhausted chai


if u know you don't have full school fees, house rent for 12 months, upkeep.... running to 35m to 40m please stay back... stay back or apply through skill route.

edited with more info.

Calitoscassius:
I see, i didn't know this.


I am not very aware of how those kinda businesses can be set up in Botswana or Namibia or even anywhere, It is just an idea, something i would like to venture into in not too far future when and if it is possible. I wouldn't even mind in the Caribbeans, like The Bahamas, Hawai, Barbados, St Lucia, Antigua or Gyana. However, I would preffer Africa rather, Ghana, Republic of Benin or any coastal region in the west africa, somewhere that would always bring me back to near my origin. Like a retirement business plan, i would take out all my pension early and would still get other incomes from England, that was why i explained earlier that it wouldn't be so much of a financial gain venture, though i would still expect to make profit.

It is actually a good idea, especially as humans grow older, they prefer to stay around those who look and think like them. Barbados, Bermuda, Cayman Islands, Bahamas, and maybe Dominican Republic are the best places to domicile in the Caribbeans. However, they are outrageously expensive such that the dweller must be really boxed up. Moderately sized houses in Barbados and the Bahamas, my favourites, are not less than $500K, and this is me being conservative.

So, for the average black person outside North America, as most blacks there wouldn't be overly interested in emigrating considering the historical nature of black domicile compared to elsewhere, seemingly functional and, most importantly, safe countries in parts of Africa would be the best option. That is where Ghana and Benin Republic come in. The hack is to live on pensions derived from developed countries or businesses founded in those countries that are into exports to curtail against currency valuations. This is considering the lifestyle of the returnee compared to the locals. Basically, earn dollars, not cedis or CFA, while resident there.

Guyana is a poor country that just found oil. Better Benin Republic or even Gambia. The poverty there is excruciating.

Few people i know are currently in the business, they have being perssuading me to join. As it appears it has being quite profitable abundantly for them. That is where i the idea came from.

From your comments i found that you are viewing it from a big business set up point, although a "small hotel business" is not small business. I admire your optimism.

It is profitable because they are not relying on the local currency. Anyone who returns from, say, the UK to Nigeria to rely on naira income accompanied by a British lifestyle is in for a longgggg thing. It is something I have looked into because as the world gets more nationalistic, it is better to reside amongst people who look like you. Also, for some of us who emigrated after more than 25 years in a black-dominated environment, we yearn for attributes from such an environment.

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Gerrard59:


It is actually a good idea, especially as humans grow older, they prefer to stay around those who look and think like them. Barbados, Bermuda, Cayman Islands, Bahamas, and maybe Dominican Republic are the best places to domicile in the Caribbeans. However, they are outrageously expensive such that the dweller must be really boxed up. Moderately sized houses in Barbados and the Bahamas, my favourites, are not less than $500K, and this is me being conservative.

So, for the average black person outside North America, as most blacks there wouldn't be overly interested in emigrating considering the historical nature of black domicile compared to elsewhere, seemingly functional and, most importantly, safe countries in parts of Africa would be the best option. That is where Ghana and Benin Republic come in. The hack is to live on pensions derived from developed countries or businesses founded in those countries that are into exports to curtail against currency valuations. This is considering the lifestyle of the returnee compared to the locals. Basically, earn dollars, not cedis or CFA, while resident there.

Guyana is a poor country that just found oil. Better Benin Republic or even Gambia. The poverty there is excruciating.



It is profitable because they are not relying on the local currency. Anyone who returns from, say, the UK to Nigeria to rely on naira income accompanied by a British lifestyle is in for a longgggg thing. It is something I have looked into because as the world gets more nationalistic, it is better to reside amongst people who look like you. Also, for some of us who emigrated after more than 25 years in a black-dominated environment, we yearn for attributes from such an environment.

You make a lot of sense and i agree totally..

Nigerians and their low mentality , you have 35 million naira and you use it to do visa to another man's country to do petty and dirty jobs.. I mean 20 to 30 million naira. That's so foolishi , you can start a small firm , agriculture , real estate , poultry , fashion school , agro processing plant etc, there are thousands of things i can do with it and be successful . People run away from Nigeria because we are not producing anything , there are no jobs, we only import in the morning , afternoon and night , import import import . Running away with such amount of money is wickedness , use it and start something in Nigeria and employ 2 workers . If the multitude in embassies trying to japa can each , use the funds to establish small scale enterprises and employ one or two workers , the unemployment level in Nigeria will reduce .

Love800:
Is it the full sch fee, house rent and upkeep dat amount to 35-40m?
Or
It is just the upkeep alone dat amount to 35-40m?

Every every

You’re right. But I was thinking more like individual homes that people want to sell because of whatever personal reasons they might have. Those I’d buy.

But definitely not some mass produced quick construction scheme. Even then those won’t go for 5 million. Not even 20 million. Not in this economy at least

descarado:

That is 100% lie even in 2017 like the guy said.

The problem with buy and park in is that in 2 yrs time, you will spend the exact amount used in buying to do repairs. Very substandard. Forget the painting and fittings or designs we see. From the blocks, concrete and rods are always substandard. So house foundation most times are faulty.
I will never encourage that.

cococandy:
You’re right. But I was thinking more like individual homes that people want to sell because of whatever personal reasons they might have. Those I’d buy.

But definitely not some mass produced quick construction scheme. Even then those won’t go for 5 million. Not even 20 million. Not in this economy at least

you finally got it. I couldn't have been more explicit. I no talk about houses built by developers, and I recall explicitly mentioning that in my post (it's right there). Developers are doing business, while homeowners that put houses up for sale NEED money. Whatever would make a man/woman put his/her house for sale, rest assured na for urgent money needs. Whomever has the money on ground and the information wins, and saves money....and yes, it certainly will not be in prime locations....but same principle applies even in prime locations. You would certainly get the house far far cheaper than its full worth or the cost it would take to build today. After building mine and I learnt this, I knew I would certainly not be buying any more lands but rather buying houses so help me God. Na make the funds dey wella on ground remain.

OlawaleBammie:
Ok it's all about what??
Slavery, viewing the best infrastructures or what??

When u know that its not all about money then why do u take up three to four working shift just to be able to stay afloat and pay the tax of ur slave masters..?

let me answer from the beginning cos obviously you do not live abroad, Only people who have limited hours at their jobs do more than 2 jobs, If you have a full-time paying job there will be no time to do another job or your taz will be on the up. Now for the things you get here wich are not money. Good roads, lesser crime, World class healthcare which is free. Rule of law, no man know man. Police are rapid if called. Almost no fear in going out of your home. Im sorry to say, loads of people abroad paint a very vague picture of the west to their family and friends back home in order for them not to be asked for money or handouts. I will tell you this fro free, if your president can come to the UK for health care who then are the citizens to talk. All the elite of the Nigerian Society are sending their kids here to school, Even the ruling houses of the Saudis send their kids here from as young as 5 to school.

fullclub:


i recently placed a land with foundation for 9m but no buyer yet... even if i sell it and change it to pounds how much nko

NA Wa o....
So you get plenty of Property like this and still Japa!
and now you want to sell them all....

Calitoscassius:
See you! Erick, you are signing papers unbehalf of Naija peeps. They will just drag you into their scam mess. like they did to me.

what Scam?I know the family reach home and my signing is for rent purpose only nothing else. Nigerians learn to help you fellow brother when it is appropriate.But know the person reach house.

chuksbobby12:
Nigerians and their low mentality , you have 35 million naira and you use it to do visa to another man's country to do petty and dirty jobs.. I mean 20 to 30 million naira. That's so foolishi , you can start a small firm , agriculture , real estate , poultry , fashion school , agro processing plant etc, there are thousands of things i can do with it and be successful . People run away from Nigeria because we are not producing anything , there are no jobs, we only import in the morning , afternoon and night , import import import . Running away with such amount of money is wickedness , use it and start something in Nigeria and employ 2 workers . If the multitude in embassies trying to japa can each , use the funds to establish small scale enterprises and employ one or two workers , the unemployment level in Nigeria will reduce .

If you don build house you for nor mention real estate. Cement is N5600, 16mm is 9500 and 30tone gravel is now 700k,, to build tank stand for a story building is almost N1,5m.Talk is cheap, Una dey think say N35m is huge sum, in reality thats not even average!

Calitoscassius:
Even from his comments you d see that, that individual is not the type that would blend in with or in western civilisation, Not everyone can, we are talking about AI, driverless vehicles, bullet trains and Jacuzzis on board perssenger airplanes. and he is talking about cashew nuts, Ogbomosho and 35million, I laugh in Latino also.


Ironically he may not have 20m or 35m as he put it. He did say people are making money not him is making money. so his story is just hearsay.

He dont know,as we talk men dey bank 2k to thier 9ja account on regular bases since jan 1st this year look now £ is more than 1k.In three years a hustler can return that N40M no issues!

fullclub:


i recently placed a land with foundation for 9m but no buyer yet... even if i sell it and change it to pounds how much nko

Is it still for sale and where is d location?

tensazangetsu20:


That 13 million should have taken you to Portugal or Germany but to get visa to both places dey hard. The truth is that if you even come back to Nigeria and learn the data analysis no job you will suffer greatly.

What will he be doing in Germany or potugal? No student jobs there either. No pathway to citizenship and d kids language of instruction I'm school will be German or Portuguese

Icesnow:
What will he be doing in Germany or potugal? No student jobs there either. No pathway to citizenship and d kids language of instruction I'm school will be German or Portuguese

Actually Germany and Portugal have pathways to citizenship. Portugal is the only EU country where your kids can be a citizen after they are born provided the parents have lived there for more than a year. Naturalisation time is 5 years. Germany is 8 years and that nonsense about student jobs not being available is a lie.

That’s what I imagined

Treadway:
while homeowners that put houses up for sale NEED money. Whatever would make a man/woman put his/her house for sale, rest assured na for urgent money needs. Whomever has the money on ground and the information wins, and saves money..

Still dont understand.

fullclub:


Every every

Love800:
Still dont understand.

Are you with your calculator?

Living expenses roughly 10k pounds
For a dependant roughly 6k pounds
Let's say your school fees is 15k pounds.
If exchange rate is 1400...then only this is going to 40 million naira.

Visa and health insurance 1450 dollars. I don't know now. Multiply by two if u have a dependant.

Other small small expensises... Tb test, passport fee unless u have already, booking of biometric... Priority? 250 pounds, plus other fees like that

Tankz so much
The money big o.
I have plans relocating to canada to do masters from there i will become a lecturer. But with dis amount am seeing, it will be very hard.

Tankz though

fullclub:


Are you with your calculator?

Living expenses roughly 10k pounds
For a dependant roughly 6k pounds
Let's say your school fees is 15k pounds.
If exchange rate is 1400...then only this is going to 40 million naira.

Visa and health insurance 1450 dollars. I don't know now. Multiply by two if u have a dependant.

Other small small expensises... Tb test, passport fee unless u have already, booking of biometric... Priority? 250 pounds, plus other fees like that

acorntree:


Fight it out there o. Don't ever think of coming back to Nigeria till you stabilize there. Nigeria is still on autopilot, moving backward and a little forward. In 5 years time you will be happy that you leave this hell called a country. I wish you all the best in your endeavor. Please don't listen to all these naysayers on nairaland blaming you for leaving the hell hole. Most of them are not different from our greedy politician, they live flamboyantly on proceeds of sharp practices, corruption, fraud, etc and that's why they can't leave the country. Some of them who claimed they have businesses or investment here are mostly liars , their business practices are embodiment of corruption. As at today real business owners are lamenting. People are facing tough time now. We just pray it gets better. Just believe with time things will be better for you there. Don't ever look back to your vomit. Pursue your goals with unwavering commitment in the face of challenges.Face your new path and you will conquer your fear.

All this fear mongering. My wife and I built business in Nigeria with nothing. There are many like us. You can't run from your shadow. No place like home.

But do you think Portugal is worth moving to again?Because it has one of the lowest salaries in the EU, see the minimum wage, and this is before tax. I read on Reddit and even YouTube videos that the cost of living is now high due to the influx of digital nomads and remote workers from the US who can afford to pay the high rent costs, unlike the locals who earn low wages.
But I agree it's cheap to move there though, I even saw a school for just 2000 Euros a session.
The citizenship is another perk too cos the passport is quite strong. What's your opinion pls?

tensazangetsu20:


Actually Germany and Portugal have pathways to citizenship. Portugal is the only EU country where your kids can be a citizen after they are born provided the parents have lived there for more than a year. Naturalisation time is 5 years. Germany is 8 years and that nonsense about student jobs not being available is a lie.

Emeraldfynest:
But do you think Portugal is worth moving to again?Because it has one of the lowest salaries in the EU, see the minimum wage, and this is before tax. I read on Reddit and even YouTube videos that the cost of living is now high due to the influx of digital nomads and remote workers from the US who can afford to pay the high rent costs, unlike the locals who earn low wages.
But I agree it's cheap to move there though, I even saw a school for just 2000 Euros a session.
The citizenship is another perk too cos the passport is quite strong. What's your opinion pls?

If you can even get the visa sef. Portugal visa is very hard to get as a Nigerian even to go and study.

Hmm, getting out of Nigeria seems to be getting harder. Is it not possible to apply from another country?

tensazangetsu20:


If you can even get the visa sef. Portugal visa is very hard to get as a Nigerian even to go and study.

Gh

If you have 20M, you can actually study in Latvia for example, bring in your family, rent a huge flat, have a Schengen residence permit that gives you entry to about 30 European Schengen countries, and have peace of mind. And oh, you can work there, start a company, and play until permanent residency.

Nigerians, why only the UK? There are other countries out there that will not stress your life. You just have to start somewhere. Lots of Nigerians I have met in these places, will only visit the UK, and go back to maybe Poland.

If you are flexible with learning a new language, then life will be easy for you. I have visited the UK a lot, and surprisingly, I see more wretched Africans there than other small EU countries that most Nigerians would skip.

Guys in Poland, Slovakia, Finland, and Latvia for example are living in huge houses, paying less and having less stress. The world is bigger than the UK.

Thewritingnerd:
It’s always “people” , never “I”.

Ozuor.

Ok
It is me...come make I show you how...ekwensu

Love800:
Tankz so much
The money big o.
I have plans relocating to canada to do masters from there i will become a lecturer. But with dis amount am seeing, it will be very hard.

Tankz though

That's why I was crying that after spending much... I still came n be suffering looking for jobs.

pansophist:
If you have 20M, you can actually study in Latvia for example, bring in your family, rent a huge flat, have a Schengen residence permit that gives you entry to about 30 European Schengen countries, and have peace of mind. And oh, you can work there, start a company, and play until permanent residency.

Nigerians, why only the UK? There are other countries out there that will not stress your life. You just have to start somewhere. Lots of Nigerians I have met in these places, will only visit the UK, and go back to maybe Poland.

If you are flexible with learning a new language, then life will be easy for you. I have visited the UK a lot, and surprisingly, I see more wretched Africans there than other small EU countries that most Nigerians would skip.

Guys in Poland, Slovakia, Finland, and Latvia for example are living in huge houses, paying less and having less stress. The world is bigger than the UK.

Are you talking from personal experience r from what your frienda told you or what you read online?
theory is always good on paper.. Please let's say what we have experienced not assumptions

fullclub:


Are you talking from personal experience r from what your frienda told you or what you read online?
theory is always good on paper.. Please let's say what we have experienced not assumptions

Theory? lol I don't speak in theories, I know, and I have been around. In fact, I change my passport almost every three years because I travel a lot, and stamps have occupied all the spaces.