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Is This Part Of The Bible A Mistake? by Carcholce: 12:52pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
1st Cor 7 “It is good for a man not to marry” Was the person that wrote that verse high on something? ![]() ![]() What is good about not getting married? To think no bible scholar/teachers have touched on that verse is fishy! Is that verse a mistake? Kobojunkie, have you seen this bible chapter before? |
Re: Is This Part Of The Bible A Mistake? by oranget(m): 1:04pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
It is not a mistake, and the writer is not high on anything. You simply refused to read and understand the whole chapter after you got the verse you were looking for. 3 Likes |
Re: Is This Part Of The Bible A Mistake? by Carcholce: 1:12pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
oranget: “8 Now to the unmarried[a] and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do. 9 But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion” Pardon my ignorance, is the verse telling us to remain unmarried regardless or to marry only when we can’t control the urge immoralities? |
Re: Is This Part Of The Bible A Mistake? by immortalcrown(m): 1:23pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
That verse doesn't say, "It is best for a man not to marry". The verse does not even say, "It is better for a man not to marry". So, use your brain. 1 Like |
Re: Is This Part Of The Bible A Mistake? by Carcholce: 1:24pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
immortalcrown: “It is good” it says. |
Re: Is This Part Of The Bible A Mistake? by immortalcrown(m): 1:25pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
Carcholce:Saying it is good for you to eat meat does not mean it is bad for you to choose Yam. The verse does not say that the only thing good for a man is for him not to marry. |
Re: Is This Part Of The Bible A Mistake? by Kobojunkie: 2:56pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
Carcholce:What mistake? The same Jesus Christ who confirmed to you that your marriages are of this world and not of the Kingdom of God in Luke 20 vs 34 -36 assured you that instead those who would choose to live as Eunuchs for the Kingdom of God have God's special blessing/Permission to do so. ![]() 8 Jesus answered, “Moses allowed you to divorce your wives because you refused to accept God’s teaching. But divorce was not allowed in the beginning.The question here should be why do you want it to be a mistake? ![]() |
Re: Is This Part Of The Bible A Mistake? by Kobojunkie: 3:01pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
immortalcrown:I am afraid this comparison is flawed! Since God Himself gave blessings to those who would choose to stay unmarried for the sake of His Kingdom, it is of righteousness to choose to live as an Eunuch for the sake of the Kingdom of God. However, if one chooses to get married though, there is no righteousness or goodness associated with that. ![]() There is nothing Righteous about marriage given of course that marriage is not of the Kingdom of God - Luke 20 vs 34-36. There is also nothing righteous about remaining single just for the sake of it. However, because of God's special blessing, there is Righteousness in the choice to remain for the sake of the Kingdom of God - Matthew 19 vs 12. |
Re: Is This Part Of The Bible A Mistake? by Dtruthspeaker: 3:06pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
Carcholce: So even as you see people are running away from marriage, you do not see the good of not being married? |
Re: Is This Part Of The Bible A Mistake? by immortalcrown(m): 3:12pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:"It is good for you to take care of your mother." Does this statement go against you taking care of your father and other people? |
Re: Is This Part Of The Bible A Mistake? by Kobojunkie: 3:18pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
immortalcrown:God's standard of righteousness/goodness is not to be compared in any way to man's idea of goodness. Your first and most terrible mistake! ![]() |
Re: Is This Part Of The Bible A Mistake? by immortalcrown(m): 3:21pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:You have a serious problem with English. When you say something is good, your statement does not mean that nothing else is good. |
Re: Is This Part Of The Bible A Mistake? by Kobojunkie: 3:32pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
immortalcrown:Stop deluding yourself with this gibberish of yours! ![]() The standard of Goodness in Scripture is God's Law. So for you to continuously attempt to bring it down to man's idea of goodness means you have no clue what you are on about even as you continue to beat at your chest there in ignorant confidence. ![]() |
Re: Is This Part Of The Bible A Mistake? by immortalcrown(m): 3:41pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:Aren't you using man's idea of understanding to question the verse? |
Re: Is This Part Of The Bible A Mistake? by Kobojunkie: 3:43pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
immortalcrown:Is Luke 20 vs 34 - 36 of man's idea? Is Matthew 19 vs 12 of man's standard of reasoning? ![]() |
Re: Is This Part Of The Bible A Mistake? by immortalcrown(m): 3:44pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:Aren't you using man's idea of understanding to question these verses? |
Re: Is This Part Of The Bible A Mistake? by Kobojunkie: 3:50pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
immortalcrown:I am not the one questioning the verses though. ![]() |
Re: Is This Part Of The Bible A Mistake? by immortalcrown(m): 3:52pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:Then, what is your problem with my comment is you are not the one questioning the verses? |
Re: Is This Part Of The Bible A Mistake? by Kobojunkie: 3:53pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
immortalcrown:I more than made myself clear on that! ![]() |
Re: Is This Part Of The Bible A Mistake? by Carcholce: 9:53pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: I’m lost. If the chapter is against marriage because it is of this world, does it support the idea of birthing children without the union of marriage? I apologize if my question sounds silly! |
Re: Is This Part Of The Bible A Mistake? by Carcholce: 9:57pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: Actually I thought the union of marriage was a biblical tradition. Is the chapter trying to say a man is expected to remain celibate to enter the kingdom of heaven? |
Re: Is This Part Of The Bible A Mistake? by Kobojunkie: 10:08pm On Nov 19, 2023 |
Carcholce:Why do you people interpret these things in such a manner? The chapter is not against marriage. It is simply letting you know that there is no glory to be obtained from marriage in God. Marriage is no different from pooping or eating or drinking or sleeping... all these things you do are of this world and not of the kingdom of God. ![]() 2. Even your bearing of children exercises are of this world and not of the Kingdom of God - Genesis 3 vs 16. All of this is so people are not deceived by those who would like that getting married is God's plan or that having kids is God's destiny for anyone when it ain't none of that. ![]() |
Re: Is This Part Of The Bible A Mistake? by Dvea(f): 1:04am On Nov 20, 2023 |
Carcholce: First of all, Paul said that, and he did as part of a long teaching on being good Christians. It was not as though this is law from God; this was simply his advice to Christians as a father and apostle. If you check and I'm using Good News as a yardstick, the translation for that verse is two. Good News places a reference for that verse. At the bottom, the optional translation is 'You say that a man does well not to marry' The optional translation is more of him restating a point someone has said to him. Anyway, Any sensible person who reads the entire chapter 7 knows what Paul was trying to do. That being said, Abeg, when you are reading the Bible, remember that it is a translation of a translation of the original copy, so there are translation flaws, also remember that there was a culture, understanding, and pattern then, also remember that to read between the lines, a lot of texts have a deeper meaning than what it looks, and by God, stop picking a verse and concluding. What led to the verse, what led away from the verse, what was the entire topic about, what was the culture at the time, who is speaking, who is being spoken to, what are the related verse. All of these are important. Stop picking one line and concluding that the Bible said this. If that is so, then the Bible also said kill. so... 1 Like |
Re: Is This Part Of The Bible A Mistake? by Carcholce: 5:45am On Nov 20, 2023 |
Dvea: Please pardon my ignorance! You will agree with me that even an acclaimed man of God standing on the alter do also desecrate the holy bible talk more of a bloody pagan like myself. I needed help to understand what the chapter is saying. “To marry or not to marry” Thank you for your input! |
Re: Is This Part Of The Bible A Mistake? by Dvea(f): 12:56pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
Carcholce: Marry, by all means, Marry. If you can't stay single, then marry. It is better to marry than fornicate. But when you marry as Paul instructed, do so out of love and a determination to surrender yourself to the other party and vice versa. Do not marry just for sex or cause she looks fine; marry because you re ready to work and live as one. Thinking of each other and not yourself. Marriage is a selfless act and that's a fact most people do not wish to accept. |
Re: Is This Part Of The Bible A Mistake? by Kobojunkie: 3:19pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
Dvea:Selfless indeed! ![]() |
Re: Is This Part Of The Bible A Mistake? by Dtruthspeaker: 5:21pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
Carcholce: Yes! A virgin should remain a virgin and not guilty of fornication/adultety to make the kingdom of God. And that if a virgin has desires for women, then he should marry rather than sin. That is the scope of his message. |
Re: Is This Part Of The Bible A Mistake? by Carcholce: 5:27pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: Thank you for your response. Another question, does a fornicator that decide to go celibate and do away with the old life qualify for the kingdom of God? |
Re: Is This Part Of The Bible A Mistake? by Kobojunkie: 5:29pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
Carcholce:Union of marriage is not a biblical tradition. There is no such thing as a biblical tradition. There is instead God's Law and then those who subscribe to and obey God's Law. Simple! Of course, there are equally those who claim they subscribe to God's Law but instead reject it by their refusal to obey. ![]() 2. To enter into the Kingdom of Heaven, one is expected to live his life in continuous submission and obedience to God's Law. And God's Law does not include any provisions for those who are married. For example, you may end up having to abandon your marriage altogether in other to fulfill the requirements for Heaven - Newsflash! ![]() |
Re: Is This Part Of The Bible A Mistake? by Dtruthspeaker: 5:56pm On Nov 20, 2023 |
Carcholce: This is where the mercy of God comes in. I believe that by the combination of his pure repentance, consistency in rightdoing and backed by unbroken refusal to fornicate or commit adultery over the remainder of your life, I believe The Lord will accept such a one for that is who He came to save. He came for sinners to turn away from their sins, so he who has proven to have turned away from his sins shows that His mission to earth was not in vain. |
Re: Is This Part Of The Bible A Mistake? by Dvea(f): 12:52am On Nov 21, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: I'm sorry I am not sure I got you right. Are you saying married people can't make heaven? |
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