gregyboy:



Do you know who you're talking to you're vividly aware when we trash this horse and the artefact entirely when tao presented it


So why are you still bring it up

By the way this is a 16century artwork and can't be your imaginary oromiyan in Benin
Benin create their artwork immediately an event took place and not many years after, when the people who experienced it may have died, this is an igala warrior as we know in history benin and igala went to war in the 16century with Benin coming out victorious and horses were taken as spoils of war, so benin trading relationship with igala brought horses to Benin even before the idah war

That hair dress could also be a benin soldier on the horse

First pics below

Second pics below shows this horse men you tagg oromiyan are nupe warriors that Benins depicted after their wars with them which match the date of the artworks

The pictures are not the same. the igala people are closer to Yoruba in culture reason u lied is an Igala?
It seems you're paid on this forum to lie about the truth.
But you cannot erased Yoruba history in Benin.
You think we don't know how you people discriminate Edos bearing Yoruba names?

gregyboy:


The thing is I have to be patience with them even if it entails being in my sick bed
My joy is getting the parasitic narrative of our oba being a yoruba man of our history it is parasitic and untrue

I decided to dedicate my time at the moment to address it even when I wanted to look away but the yorubas get attacking the oba of Benin in their numbers which was uncomfortable to look away from many Benins didn't even bother attacking back I felt disappointed

The igbos and yorubas are constantly on our neck to denounce our history to favour them
If u can't fight them with guns maybe words will do our ancestors were never cowards so I can't be one either

Like people will say give up nor join

Shut it there bro the Binis are Yorubas. The Oba in Benin na Yoruba.
Are u an Idu man?
Anytime you mention d Bini, Ile-ibinu, Oba you're mentioning Yoruba.

Mraphel:

Shut it there bro the Binis are Yorubas. The Oba in Benin na Yoruba.
Are u an Idu man?
Anytime you mention d Bini, Ile-ibinu, Oba you're mentioning Yoruba.

this one na force o by fire by force even without evidence

gregyboy:




this one na force o by fire by force even without evidence

No be force na truth and correct history. If an Akoko Edo man with Yoruba name is contesting for a position or someone from Usen. I am sure your likes will not vote him but na Yoruba Oba u dey use brag up and down not even your defeated Ogisos.

Mraphel:

The pictures are not the same. the igala people are closer to Yoruba in culture reason u lied is an Igala?
It seems you're paid on this forum to lie about the truth.
But you cannot erased Yoruba history in Benin.
You think we don't know how you people discriminate Edos bearing Yoruba names?

So the white people who did the research used their money to travel to Nigeria do the research and also have acess to all Benin artworks for proper examining are lying

Did you go through the screenshot

I can only belive you if you post a yoruba man recent or ancient with that regalia the man wore on the horse or you're nothing but a bigot

Did you read my writeup.. At all


Read this extras

The historian who first came out with such a fallcious statement that the oba of Benin heads were being buried in Ife, was a benin historian with the name Dr jacob Egharevba.
Egharevba earliest work is a mix of oral traditions and speculation which he corrected in his later works, however as a matter of fact it's a traditional practice in Benin that kings of the various vassals state, under Benin control would come back to bury the previous king heads in Benin in order to notify the oba that the previous monarchy was dead this journey to Benin can only be carried out by the incoming successor who will stay in Benin for months or years to learn the ways of the Benins before going back to take his father's position as king. however this practice was never a tradition in ile-Ife as no other of the supposed oduduwa sons had a burial site making it suspecious and fallacious from Egharevba who was equipped with the Benin oral history and had mix oral tradition of the Benins with his imagination to forge the orun oba ado tradition which he termed in his book `Ile Ife the final resting place of the oba of Benin' Egharevba had writing with no consultation or whatsoever and was not even close to the palace to begin with, his works lacked referencing other than just pure selfish intrest he could derive from the then watern region the edos where under at that time, Frank Willet a french historian did an excavation on the very orun oba ado site in 1969 hoping to find some truth in what yoruba belive to be an historical site, all nine site the excavation took place was empty and nothing was found in them it is of most importance to note that at the time the supposed myth of oromiyan visit to benin, her name was still called igodomigodo and not yet ado that originated from oba ewaure a long distance predecessor of oba eweka 1

Mraphel:

No be force na truth and correct history. If an Akoko Edo man with Yoruba name is contesting for a position or someone from Usen. I am sure your likes will not vote him but na Yoruba Oba u dey use brag up and down not even your defeated Ogisos.

Read my screenshot please

provide me Any Evidence Of Benin-ife Connection Prior To 1475 To 1914, written or artefact wise

The history of oromiyan in Benin was formed and forged in the old western region to intergret the Benins and the oba as yorubas even to the extent of giving him the second position and displacing the alafin who was originally the second after the ooni of Ife although tho the oba of Benin accepted this offer at first but things didn't go as planned the other yoruba monarchs and together with the alafin of oyo was not happy with this new arrangement that the oba of Benin who is second after the ooni of Ife can't even speak yoruba language and so many other complains ensued from there, again the oba of Benin had a fall out with awolowo and other benin political aspirants and as a result pulling out of western region became thinkable and as soon as Midwestern region was created the oba of benin refuted the false history and the yorubas kings fired back and soon after the oba of Benin forged a counter history of ekaladeran and since then the history that started on falsehood became held seriously by many people who are unaware


If truly yoruba or oromiyan came and found Benin, why is there any yoruba corrupted names, title that ls found in the oba palace why is the oba and the chiefs not dressing like yoruba? why is the oba palace not speaking yoruba and why is there no yoruba idols in the palace I begin to wonder if the yorubas are using this cheap lies to win an argument over the Benin people, lastly have there been anyone who will deny is father for any reason if truly the oba of Benin is from Ife why is the oba of Benin saying otherwise

Mraphel:

No be force na truth and correct history. If an Akoko Edo man with Yoruba name is contesting for a position or someone from Usen. I am sure your likes will not vote him but na Yoruba Oba u dey use brag up and down not even your defeated Ogisos.

Guess what same history I have been pasting for you for years is gaining likes by your own yoruba people on Facebook, even if you refuse to accept the truth your children will that is for sure

Am schooling your own yoruba people their real history on fb and on X

gregyboy:



Guess what same history I have been pasting for you for years is gaining likes by your own yoruba people on Facebook, even if you refuse to accept the truth your children will that is for sure

Am schooling your own yoruba people their real history on fb and on X

Also the history of all the 40 past Obas were forged also? Eweka too was forged?
Even the the disposed Ogisos that nearly won Oba of Benin in Court four years ago never disputed history.
They all have evidences of Oranmiyan in their history.
Hatred of Oranmiyan because of Yoruba is an hatred if all the Oba of Benin.

Mraphel:

Also the history of all the 40 past Obas were forged also? Eweka too was forged?
Even the the disposed Ogisos that nearly won Oba of Benin in Court four years ago never disputed history.
They all have evidences of Oranmiyan in their history.
Hatred of Oranmiyan because of Yoruba is an hatred if all the Oba of Benin.

Did you read this very history on this thread or you skipped it, I never said ogiso was a lie, they were not just one ogiso

Ogiame history it's a Benin based history that didn't involve yoruba

The name Benin was from itsekiri warnings

While we are at that read this
If truly yoruba or oromiyan came and found Benin, why is there any yoruba corrupted names, title that ls found in the oba palace why is the oba and the chiefs not dressing like yoruba? why is the oba palace not speaking yoruba and why is there no yoruba idols in the palace I begin to wonder if the yorubas are using this cheap lies to win an argument over the Benin people, lastly have there been anyone who will deny is father for any reason if truly the oba of Benin is from Ife why is the oba of Benin saying otherwise

Mraphel:

Also the history of all the 40 past Obas were forged also? Eweka too was forged?
Even the the disposed Ogisos that nearly won Oba of Benin in Court four years ago never disputed history.
They all have evidences of Oranmiyan in their history.
Hatred of Oranmiyan because of Yoruba is an hatred if all the Oba of Benin.

If Ooni of Ife turns up in benin and Claims the Throne and Kingdom of benin he too is also right


Ok, Let us look at the praise names of oba of benin

One of it is
Abieyuwa N'Ovbi Odua N'uhe
The son of the wealthy Odua of Uhe(Ife).
(Odua of Ife is the same as oduduwa of Ife)

Another of oba of benin's praise names is

Ovbi' Adimila
The son of Adimila
oduduwa was also known as Olofin Adimula
Which was his Title

Notice there is no mention at all of any Ekhalerderhan of Igodomigodo or izoduwa a whole Crown Prince of Benin that got lost and the renowned Accomplished Benin Palace Praise singers are not at all interested in his case
It can only be a lie

They did not mention and neither are they looking for the lost Ekhalerderhan .

izoduwa too is not happening anywhere in oba of benin's praise names but they called Oduduwa , the great Odua of Ife his Father

So with their own mouths they themselves have already given the evidence that fully demolished and destroyed their case which had no legs to stand on in the first place and have confirmed with your own Mouth that the oba of benin was indeed oduduwa's Son
There is nothing left to drag because it is settled

Mraphel:

Also the history of all the 40 past Obas were forged also? Eweka too was forged?
Even the the disposed Ogisos that nearly won Oba of Benin in Court four years ago never disputed history.
They all have evidences of Oranmiyan in their history.
Hatred of Oranmiyan because of Yoruba is an hatred if all the Oba of Benin.

Apart from the fact that the Oba Of Lagos is of Ijesha lineage since

Ologun Kutere who was Ijesha like his father Alagba who was Princess Erelu Kuti's Husband

It was even ife that founded benin

cool.Yes!!

ife founded benin!! Including the Ogiso dynasty!!!


obagodo the first Ogiso that founded Igodomigodo Kingdom that is now benin was an ife man
Igodomigodo is now benin


Ogiso obagodo founded Igodomigodo Kingdom with his followers from ife
obagodo was Yoruba for Oba Igodo

Christistruth00:





If Ooni of Ife turns up in benin and Claims the Throne and Kingdom of benin he too is also right


Ok, Let us look at the praise names of oba of benin

One of it is
Abieyuwa N'Ovbi Odua N'uhe
The son of the wealthy Odua of Uhe(Ife).
(Odua of Ife is the same as oduduwa of Ife)

Another of oba of benin's praise names is

Ovbi' Adimila
The son of Adimila
oduduwa was also known as Olofin Adimula
Which was his Title

Notice there is no mention at all of any Ekhalerderhan of Igodomigodo or izoduwa a whole Crown Prince of Benin that got lost and the renowned Accomplished Benin Palace Praise singers are not at all interested in his case
It can only be a lie

They did not mention and neither are they looking for the lost Ekhalerderhan .

izoduwa too is not happening anywhere in oba of benin's praise names but they called Oduduwa , the great Odua of Ife his Father

So with their own mouths they themselves have already given the evidence that fully demolished and destroyed their case which had no legs to stand on in the first place and have confirmed with your own Mouth that the oba of benin was indeed oduduwa's Son
There is nothing left to drag because it is settled

Read this

The history of oromiyan in Benin was formed and forged in the old western region to intergret the Benins and the oba as yorubas even to the extent of giving him the second position and displacing the alafin who was originally the second after the ooni of Ife although tho the oba of Benin accepted this offer at first but things didn't go as planned the other yoruba monarchs and together with the alafin of oyo was not happy with this new arrangement that the oba of Benin who is second after the ooni of Ife can't even speak yoruba language and so many other complains ensued from there, again the oba of Benin had a fall out with awolowo and other benin political aspirants and as a result pulling out of western region became thinkable and as soon as Midwestern region was created the oba of benin refuted the false history and the yorubas kings fired back and soon after the oba of Benin forged a counter history of ekaladeran and since then the history that started on falsehood became held seriously by many people who are unaware

gregyboy:
As we may have it Benin wasn't organised or a powerful kingdom in the early times, in the beginning they were several villages who had Thier various leaders called ogiso they were several ogiso( sky kings) in the various settlement of Benin. at this time Benin was not one, the various settlement with their own ogiso existed independently. there were no one ruler, until a man called evian, killed a spiritual beast that had been disturbing the various villages surrounding Benin. which the various Ogiso heads couldn't handle and he found favour in the Benin community and the villagers came together to make him the oba of igodo. he ascended the throne as eweka the first
He was blessed with mystical powers and the people likened him as the son of a God, the Ogiso who refused to surrender their sovereignty where forced and the kingdom was formed, this several ogiso heads became chiefs in the new kingdom called ogidomigofo
Which later renamed as edo during oba ewaure reign and turned Benin during the Portuguese arrival who had corrupted Ile binu from the itsekiri warnings that had earlier told them not to venture into Benin City during their arrival and inquisition about the edo people
Years after eweka had died his son expanded the kingdom further Benin on several occasion
Lost some villages under the kingdom that had to be brought back through force, the king of the sea (ogiamen) was a powerful ruler who had ruled the river banks of Benin is territory was independent of Benin even when the Benin kingdom was long establish, oba ewakpe who was a conquerer had waged war on his kingdom that lasted for years but his kingdom was too strong to be defeated lots of lives was lost until an agreement was reached by the ogiamen that Benin would one day take over his territory which was a sure thing, because Benin was flourishing and expanding unlike his territory and that if they have to join Benin that the oba of Benin would respect is terms,and that every oba that ascends the throne would always come and buy his sovereignty from his family at every coronation in terms of paying homage and that if the contract is broken they can choose to live the kingdom, this practice continued for centuries until after Benin empire was brought down by the British and that tradition was stopped by the oba, the only way the ogiame family could use to attack the oba was by false acclimation Of his illegitimacy

Just the way the yoruba were brought into one canopy by awolowo during the formation of Nigeria so as evian who became the first oba of Benin united the kingdom

The Benin kingdom consist of the 36 Benin families

The Benin empire consist of lagos, ondo, ekiti, delta and Co....

The yorubas and other tribes that have issues with the oba of Benin would always use the screenshot to support their claims that the oba of Benin is a yoruba man, not until you ask them, if there is any trace of yoruba titles or names or even idols in the oba palace that can trace that the oba of Benin is a yoruba man, then they will be left dumbfounded

You are a dirty thief


Tell me in one sentence how the Ogisos/Benins come about the Yoruba title of Oba? Why did they decide to name their Kings Oba?

No matter how much you try to distort our history, you wil fail as you have failed now.

Christistruth00:





If Ooni of Ife turns up in benin and Claims the Throne and Kingdom of benin he too is also right


Ok, Let us look at the praise names of oba of benin

One of it is
Abieyuwa N'Ovbi Odua N'uhe
The son of the wealthy Odua of Uhe(Ife).
(Odua of Ife is the same as oduduwa of Ife)

Another of oba of benin's praise names is

Ovbi' Adimila
The son of Adimila
oduduwa was also known as Olofin Adimula
Which was his Title

Notice there is no mention at all of any Ekhalerderhan of Igodomigodo or izoduwa a whole Crown Prince of Benin that got lost and the renowned Accomplished Benin Palace Praise singers are not at all interested in his case
It can only be a lie

They did not mention and neither are they looking for the lost Ekhalerderhan .

izoduwa too is not happening anywhere in oba of benin's praise names but they called Oduduwa , the great Odua of Ife his Father

So with their own mouths they themselves have already given the evidence that fully demolished and destroyed their case which had no legs to stand on in the first place and have confirmed with your own Mouth that the oba of benin was indeed oduduwa's Son
There is nothing left to drag because it is settled

Saved.