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Robbers Steal Cocoa Beans As Cocoa Prices Balloon - Bloomberg by Gerrard59(m): 8:01am On Dec 12, 2023 |
From thieves stealing pods to traders rigging scales — high drama is unfolding in Nigeria and Cameroon’s cocoa markets — as everyone jostles for the massive profits on offer as prices of the chocolate ingredient have soared to their highest in over forty years. |
Re: Robbers Steal Cocoa Beans As Cocoa Prices Balloon - Bloomberg by insidelife22(m): 8:05am On Dec 12, 2023 |
I must return to Ile Ife forests for sure odds... 1 Like |
Re: Robbers Steal Cocoa Beans As Cocoa Prices Balloon - Bloomberg by Gerrard59(m): 8:07am On Dec 12, 2023 |
“My landowner is asking for 450,000 naira per year on the 2-hectare farm for which I currently pay 200,000,” said Attangba Bonjo, who grows cocoa on leased land in Ikom in Nigeria’s southeast. “Cocoa farmgate prices have risen to about 4 million naira from 2.7 million naira per ton in the last two months, which I believe the land owners want to have a taste of.” https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-12-06/cocoa-rally-fuels-bean-theft-soaring-rents-in-cameroon-nigeria
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Re: Robbers Steal Cocoa Beans As Cocoa Prices Balloon - Bloomberg by Gerrard59(m): 8:14am On Dec 12, 2023 |
cc: nlfmod Cocoa farmers must be making a killing to the extent the beans are pilfered. Good a thing, unlike Ghana and Ivory Coast, there are no restrictions on the prices Nigerian farmers wish to sell. That is the beauty of capitalism: the free market. Ghana, as I write, signed a deal with the IMF to trade her future earnings from cocoa for an immediate loan. Terrible decision. I was stunned! The Ghanaian economy must be so terrible for such to have occurred when the president and his finance minister studied at Oxford and Columbia universities, respectively (I wonder what they learnt while there assuming they actually attended classes and paid attention). https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-11-21/ghana-to-sign-costliest-loan-ever-for-cocoa-as-debt-crisis-bites 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Robbers Steal Cocoa Beans As Cocoa Prices Balloon - Bloomberg by RepoMan007: 8:31am On Dec 12, 2023 |
Thanks to aging trees in Nigeria, cocoa yield has dropped and that means higher prices whenever demand becomes strong. I am sure if the north had the ability grow cocoa as well as the south, they would have priotized the replenishing of the younger more productive trees and processing of cocoa into chocolates. That's a $150b global industry we are comfortably ignoring yet wishing oil will sell higher forever. Nigeria is largely an agrarian country that should be having six ministries of agric. One for each region. This should help reduce the politics of interregional exploitation that's crippling many things in Nigeria. The least I expect from Tinubu is this if he is serious about improving the system. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Robbers Steal Cocoa Beans As Cocoa Prices Balloon - Bloomberg by RepoMan007: 8:37am On Dec 12, 2023 |
Gerrard59:We are cursed with leadership problems. How can you sign away something as valuable as cocoa? Something that can be processed to generate thousands of well-paying jobs and profit for your economy? Code D'voire tried to into processing but there is room for improvement. I wonder what Ghana was thinking. 2 Likes |
Re: Robbers Steal Cocoa Beans As Cocoa Prices Balloon - Bloomberg by Gerrard59(m): 9:41pm On Dec 12, 2023 |
RepoMan007: I explained it here: Gerrard59: 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Robbers Steal Cocoa Beans As Cocoa Prices Balloon - Bloomberg by Corrections: 8:05am On Dec 13, 2023 |
Cool.. |
Re: Robbers Steal Cocoa Beans As Cocoa Prices Balloon - Bloomberg by RepoMan007: 3:51pm On Dec 15, 2023 |
Corrections:It is not cool in any way. |
Re: Robbers Steal Cocoa Beans As Cocoa Prices Balloon - Bloomberg by RepoMan007: 4:11pm On Dec 15, 2023 |
Gerrard59: I have agree with you on the aspect of being almost impossible to process to the taste of the west locally. They have big firms and what they call artisan cocoa users / hobbyists. The big firms there have high standards and reputation. |
Re: Robbers Steal Cocoa Beans As Cocoa Prices Balloon - Bloomberg by XAUBulls: 4:24pm On Dec 15, 2023 |
That's a very serious situation unfolding right before everyone. =>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-12-06/cocoa-rally-fuels-bean-theft-soaring-rents-in-cameroon-nigeria =>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-11-21/ghana-to-sign-costliest-loan-ever-for-cocoa-as-debt-crisis-bites |
Re: Robbers Steal Cocoa Beans As Cocoa Prices Balloon - Bloomberg by Gerrard59(m): 5:52pm On Mar 23 |
A ton of cocoa is close to $10K per ton. If you see anyone dealing in cocoa, bill am! Due to weather disruptions, the Ghanaians and Ivorians are not producing enough, so Nigerians and Cameroonians are filling in the gap. The farmers will make money No wonder Tinubu did not institute a commodity pricing board. Good decision. 2 Likes |
Re: Robbers Steal Cocoa Beans As Cocoa Prices Balloon - Bloomberg by Ajd19: 4:24pm On Apr 17 |
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Re: Robbers Steal Cocoa Beans As Cocoa Prices Balloon - Bloomberg by Parizz: 2:44pm On May 11 |
Gerrard59:hi, am planning to learn a skill between mechanic and aluminium fabrication and i need your insight. Which should i go for? |
Re: Robbers Steal Cocoa Beans As Cocoa Prices Balloon - Bloomberg by Gerrard59(m): 6:11pm On May 11 |
Parizz: My Oga - tensazangetsu20 - knows much of this as he was once a mechanic and even repaired a Rolls Royce. One thing I would advise about mechanic is to learn how to repair German cars since their owners are wealthier aka, dem get money, pass those wey dey drive Japanese and Korean cars. Oga tensazangetsu20, what do you have to say about this, biko? |
Re: Robbers Steal Cocoa Beans As Cocoa Prices Balloon - Bloomberg by tensazangetsu20(m): 6:22pm On May 11 |
Gerrard59: Mechanic is better to be honest. It could even be used to migrate if we had proper trade schools in Nigeria but if you know the skill you could write trade school exams from other countries and find a job that will sponsor. I will go with Mechanic. 3 Likes |
Re: Robbers Steal Cocoa Beans As Cocoa Prices Balloon - Bloomberg by haybhi1(m): 12:41am On Aug 06 |
Gerrard59:Guy, you're mad! Why did you keep your puddings this hideous that I have to take this long to start following you? Omo, you get sense o! |
Re: Robbers Steal Cocoa Beans As Cocoa Prices Balloon - Bloomberg by Gerrard59(m): 6:33am On Aug 06 |
haybhi1:This one you follow me, I hope you know we don't see eye-to-eye on certain issues? |
Re: Robbers Steal Cocoa Beans As Cocoa Prices Balloon - Bloomberg by haybhi1(m): 3:38pm On Aug 06 |
Gerrard59:lol... no one is always right na |
Re: Robbers Steal Cocoa Beans As Cocoa Prices Balloon - Bloomberg by Gerrard59(m): 4:40am On Aug 20 |
https://africa.businessinsider.com/local/markets/ghana-seeks-to-borrow-dollar500-million-from-cocoa-traders/lk3s1ml So Ghana wants to borrow $500 million from cocoa traders by selling their future harvests. This is the same thing Buhari did with crude - sold oil ahead of time for immediate loans. The same Ghana restricts traders from transacting with the farmers but through a commodity board. As a result, they lost out on the rise in prices (up to $10K per tonne for cocoa). Ivory Coast enacts the same policy. Socialism is a failure everywhere. Nigeria and Cameroon benefitted bigly from the soaring prices. Hopefully, Tinubu does not go forward with his commodity pricing board. Regulating prices has never worked anywhere. 1 Like |
Re: Robbers Steal Cocoa Beans As Cocoa Prices Balloon - Bloomberg by stagger: 8:24am On Aug 20 |
Cocoa prices will collapse next year. Come back here to quote me. 1 Like |
Re: Robbers Steal Cocoa Beans As Cocoa Prices Balloon - Bloomberg by RepoMan007: 8:26pm On Aug 20 |
stagger:lies. Cocoa is still cheap compared to other food stuff in the light of global inflation trend. |
Re: Robbers Steal Cocoa Beans As Cocoa Prices Balloon - Bloomberg by Corrections: 11:14pm On Aug 20 |
Re: Robbers Steal Cocoa Beans As Cocoa Prices Balloon - Bloomberg by betabread: 12:58am On Aug 21 |
stagger:Not in light of global realities, belarusian potash is off world trade routes for supporting Russia, US has literally stopped chinese phosphate fertilizer imports. The price of even grains has never been this high before |
Re: Robbers Steal Cocoa Beans As Cocoa Prices Balloon - Bloomberg by Gerrard59(m): 12:37pm On Sep 03 |
stagger:I think one year is too short for prices to drop as most Ghanaian cocoa is out of the market due to fiscal mismanagement, bad weather socialist policies and poor harvests. Prices will drop off when Brazilian and Peruvian cocoa come on board. This should take about two - three/four years. For now, supply is still not available as before while demand has grown gradually. |
Re: Robbers Steal Cocoa Beans As Cocoa Prices Balloon - Bloomberg by Corrections: 6:20pm On Sep 03 |
Gerrard59: I learnt that even Brazilian and Peruvian cocoa accounts for about 10% or there about of total of what Ghana 🇬🇭 and Ivory Coast 🇨🇮 produce in a year. So from studies their supply may not any where near meeting up with international demand market. Adverse effect of hot weather is also lowering the production and I believe much as not changed this year even in west Africa. At the same time, we also have the rising cost of pesticides and fertilizers, making it difficult for farmers to afford in these countries to maintain a healthy crop. And that also leads to pests. Another point is that there may be Lower production from Ghana and Ivory Coast this 2024 because a lot of the cocoa beans had been pre-sold to consumers or cocoa and chocolate manufacturers around the world just like the way Buhari pre-sold 🇳🇬 petrol to its customers such that they pay 5year ahead. This could mean that those other cocoa consumers manufacturers who are unable to to seal a deal of pre selling cocoa with 🇬🇭Ghana and Ivory Coast 🇨🇮 will have to rely heavily on other cocoa suppliers that are two small to meet up with demands. |
Re: Robbers Steal Cocoa Beans As Cocoa Prices Balloon - Bloomberg by Gerrard59(m): 8:30pm On Sep 03 |
Corrections:I believe this as the gap between those neighbours and the rest of the cocoa producers is so wide. It's why both nations have pricing boards because they dominate production. However, I have faith in Brazil leapfrogging Ecuador, Nigeria Cameroon in about ten years maximum. Brazil did the same thing with soybean to the extent it surpassed the US as the biggest exporter to China and soon to be the biggest producer globally. The trade war between both superpowers also contributed sha. Nevertheless, Brazil is a huge country with a strong, vibrant and knowledgeable agribusiness community. I admire and envy the country. I meant Ecuador not Peru* https://www.visualcapitalist.com/worlds-top-cocoa-producing-countries/ Adverse effect of hot weather is also lowering the production and I believe much as not changed this year even in west Africa. At the same time, we also have the rising cost of pesticides and fertilizers, making it difficult for farmers to afford in these countries to maintain a healthy crop. And that also leads to pests.That's even the reason Brazil will surpass Ecuador and Nigeria so easily. They weren't into cocoa until the price soared. It is a major agricultural power in the world with strong connections to obtain fertiliser and pesticides. Also, they produce them as well. We've to cultivate cocoa in large quantities to maintain the lead and it's even worrisome that Cameroon surpasses us in production whereas we ought to hit half a million tonnes. We've the landmass and labour. I don't see why Indonesia should produce more than we do sef. I say this because should Brazil surpass us in cocoa production, that's the end. Ivoriens and Ghanaians should be afraid of what's to come. Another point is that there may be Lower production from Ghana and Ivory Coast this 2024 because a lot of the cocoa beans had been pre-sold to consumers or cocoa and chocolate manufacturers around the world just like the way Buhari pre-sold 🇳🇬 petrol to its customers such that they pay 5year ahead. This could mean that those other cocoa consumers manufacturers who are unable to to seal a deal of pre selling cocoa with 🇬🇭Ghana and Ivory Coast 🇨🇮 will have to rely heavily on other cocoa suppliers that are two small to meet up with demands.The results of fiscal mismanagement and socialist policies I mentioned earlier. Oil is Nigeria as cocoa is to them, the reason they mismanaged theirs and enacted socialist policies. And yes, many trading companies and chocolate companies had to change to Nigeria and Cameroon because of that decision. One major chocolate company invested massively in Ecuador as a result. We've not had similar investment in Nigeria from a multinational. Now, even Olam wants to sell off a part of its investment to Saudis. As it's, it behoves on us to invest massively in cocoa cultivation for the long term, else e go become like palm oil which we import from Malaysia and Indonesia (this thing annoys me deeply). 1 Like |
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