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Re: Don't Be A Fine Girl Without Jesus, Pray, Work,slay by Kobojunkie: 4:31pm On Dec 21, 2023
bentenny:
I will not be dragged or swayed by your apparently benighted and obviously tactless prevarication until you are able to 'sufficiently' show me from scriptures where God outrightly condemned or using your own words,'cursed' marriage and childbearing! I am fully aware of your 'matter' on NL streets and I'm willing to play the fool by engaging you with the intent to expose your obvious lack of understanding on issues you have zero grasp on! Like I said before,if you cannot show anyone about your preposterous and quite hilarious assertions please keep quiet and stop misquoting the bible!
This one is still playing word games with scripture. grin

In the same passage that is Genesis 3 vs 16 - 24, you lot believe God cursed man to die, even without the word curse appearing in the context but somehow the word curse has to be attached before you can accept that God also cursed marriage and childbearing there too? Who you dey deceive? grin
Re: Don't Be A Fine Girl Without Jesus, Pray, Work,slay by Kobojunkie: 4:36pm On Dec 21, 2023
Kingson28:
Be content with your natural hair.
STOP wearing fake hair, fake nails, fake eyelashes, etc.
Only sex workers and prostitutes do so
Why were you not content walking around naked since you were born without clothes from your mother's womb? undecided
Re: Don't Be A Fine Girl Without Jesus, Pray, Work,slay by Kobojunkie: 4:38pm On Dec 21, 2023
safarifarms:
Why do you people who don't like to hear anything about God assume you know the scriptures which you definitely won't care to read?
But clearly, you are the one here who knows nothing about the one you pretend is your God seeing that you don't even accept what is written in Scripture that attests to Him. grin
Re: Don't Be A Fine Girl Without Jesus, Pray, Work,slay by Kobojunkie: 4:40pm On Dec 21, 2023
deyplay:
There are similar people like other Nigerians abroad. Oyinbo are not special if you live among them, you will find out that not all are innovative or creative, just colour differences, that is it. Leave the guy alone.
I live here in Oyinbo land and I can tell you that even the lamest of Oyinbos still carry for head pass your average Nigerian boy. lipsrsealed
Re: Don't Be A Fine Girl Without Jesus, Pray, Work,slay by Kobojunkie: 4:46pm On Dec 21, 2023
Sangoamadioha1:
You and your weird comments. You just try to sound intelligent but you are quite dull. Below is the interpretation of the verse you quoted
Genesis 3:16 is a verse from the Bible that records God's curse on the woman after she and her husband disobeyed God's command and ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. The verse reads as follows in different translations:...
The verse implies that God's curse on the woman was not only physical, but also relational. She would experience more pain and difficulty in childbirth, and she would have a natural inclination to seek her husband's authority and approval. However, this does not mean that God intended for women to be inferior or subordinate to men. Rather, it shows that sin has corrupted human nature and created a hierarchy of roles that is contrary to God's original design for creation. God created humans as male and female, equal in dignity and value, and complementary in function. He also created marriage as a covenant relationship between one man and one woman, where both partners are called to love, respect, serve, and submit to each other (Ephesians 5:22-33). The curse on the woman was a consequence of her rebellion against God's authority, but it was not a permanent or final state. God promised to redeem humanity from sin through Jesus Christ, who died on the cross for our sins and rose again from the dead (Romans 5:cool. Through faith in Christ, we can receive forgiveness of sins, new life in the Spirit, and eternal hope of glory (John 3:16). We can also overcome the effects of sin by living according to God's will and purpose for our lives (Romans 12:1-2). Therefore, we can look forward to a day when there will be no more curse or pain or sorrow or death (Revelation 21:4), but only joy and peace and love (Revelation 22:1-5). ....
This is what I call "meaningless" gibberish! Saying so much yet saying absolutely nothing at the same time. undecided
16 Then God said to the woman, “I will cause you to have much trouble when you are pregnant. And when you give birth to children, you will have much pain. You will want your husband very much, but he will rule over you.”
17 Then God said to the man,“I commanded you not to eat from that tree. But you listened to your wife and ate from it. So I will curse the ground because of you. You will have to work hard all your life for the food the ground produces.
18 The ground will grow thorns and weeds for you. And you will have to eat the plants that grow wild in the fields.
19 You will work hard for your food, until your face is covered with sweat. You will work hard until the day you die, and then you will become dust again. I used dust to make you, and when you die, you will become dust again.
20 Adam named his wife Eve. He gave her this name because Eve would be the mother of everyone who ever lived.
21 The Lord God used animal skins and made some clothes for the man and his wife. Then he put the clothes on them.
22 The Lord God said, “Look, the man has become like us—he knows about good and evil. And now the man might take the fruit from the tree of life. If the man eats that fruit, he will live forever.”
23 So the Lord God forced the man out of the Garden of Eden to work the ground he was made from.
24 God forced the man to leave the garden. Then he put Cherub angels and a sword of fire at the entrance to the garden to protect it. The sword flashed around and around, guarding the way to the tree of life. - Genesis 3 vs 16 - 24
God cursed man and woman above. He placed a curse on childbearing, on marriage, on the handwork of man, and man himself in the context above. You lot accept the curse God placed on the handwork of man's hands and the man himself but not on woman and childbearing simply because your gods of men have not taught you to accept those other curses as facts of God's judgment, nothing more.. lipsrsealed

If you reason what God did above, you will come to realize that the curse on the woman in marriage and in childbearing is designed by God to ensure that all Sons of man are cursed from their very moment of conception — whether born in a test tube or from an artificial womb—right until the day they leave this world. But you are unable to do that because your gods of men — your pastors and mogs — are themselves ignorant of this. lipsrsealed
Re: Don't Be A Fine Girl Without Jesus, Pray, Work,slay by Kingson28: 4:49pm On Dec 21, 2023
[quote author=Kobojunkie post=127559277] Why were you not content walking around naked since you were born without clothes from your mother's womb?

God gave Adam and Eve clothing even though He made them naked.
Re: Don't Be A Fine Girl Without Jesus, Pray, Work,slay by Kobojunkie: 4:50pm On Dec 21, 2023
Kingson28:
God gave Adam and Eve clothing even though He made them naked.
Did God give you the same clothing when you were born? undecided
Re: Don't Be A Fine Girl Without Jesus, Pray, Work,slay by Kobojunkie: 4:52pm On Dec 21, 2023
deekseen:
Genesis 3:16 (KJV) Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. Above is Gen 3vs16. Please, explain to us how [b]marriage is cursed here.[/b] And please, prove the highlighted using this same scripture you mentioned.
You mean you need me to explain what is written in cleartext in the verse you quoted? undecided
Re: Don't Be A Fine Girl Without Jesus, Pray, Work,slay by Maynman: 4:52pm On Dec 21, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Did God give you the same clothing when you were born? undecided
Were Adam and Eve born?
Re: Don't Be A Fine Girl Without Jesus, Pray, Work,slay by Kobojunkie: 4:54pm On Dec 21, 2023
ColonelMichael:
■ I guess we should follow prophet mohammed who not only copied the bible after smoking opium, he raped his daughter in law, was a paedophile, was poisoned by a woman he wanted to rape and pigs exhumed his already build body. If that slowpoke you want us to follow, I'll honourably kill myself.
I am afraid I can't tell you who you should follow since God Himself allows for those who are not of the blood of Jacob to worship whatever god/idol they choose to
15 “On the day the Lord spoke to you from the fire at Mount Horeb, you did not see him—there was no shape for God.
16 So be careful! Don’t sin and destroy yourselves by making false gods or statues in the shape of any living thing. Don’t make an idol that looks like a man or a woman,
17 or like an animal on the earth, or like a bird that flies in the sky.
18 And don’t make an idol that looks like anything that crawls on the ground or like a fish in the sea.
19 And be careful when you look up to the sky and see the sun, the moon, and the stars—all the many things in the sky. Be careful that you are not tempted to worship and serve them. The Lord your God lets the other people in the world do this.
20 But the Lord brought you out of Egypt to make you his own special people. He saved you from Egypt. It was as if he pulled you from a hot furnace. And now you are his people . - Deuteronomy 4 vs 15 - 20
Re: Don't Be A Fine Girl Without Jesus, Pray, Work,slay by Kingson28: 5:05pm On Dec 21, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Did God give you the same clothing when you were born? undecided

Clothing is to cover and conceal our unclothedness.
Your gender is sickly addicted to nudity, though.
You relish deception and seduction, an assignment from the Devil your gender pursue so well.
It speaks to your low self-esteem to paint your face and your nails and lips before you appear in public.
Re: Don't Be A Fine Girl Without Jesus, Pray, Work,slay by Kobojunkie: 5:09pm On Dec 21, 2023
Kingson28:
Clothing is to cover and conceal our unclothedness.
■ Your gender is sickly addicted to nudity, though. You relish deception and seduction, an assignment from the Devil your gebder pursue so well. It speaks to your low self-esteem to paint your face and your nails and lips before you appear in public.
That is a strange claim to make given that Adam and Eve where naked all the while. It was only after they sinned and realized their unclothedness that God made them clothing to help their shame. So, from the story, it was not their unclothedness but their shame that the clothing given them was meant for. undecided

2. Sickly addicted to nudity? WOW shocked

And here I thought low self-esteem was more connected to shame than unclothedness. lipsrsealed
Re: Don't Be A Fine Girl Without Jesus, Pray, Work,slay by Kingson28: 5:17pm On Dec 21, 2023
[quote author=Kobojunkie post=127559831] That is a strange claim to make given that Adam and Eve where naked all the while. It was only after they sinned and realized their unclothedness that God made them clothing to help their shame. So, from the story, it was not their unclothedness but their shame that the clothing given them was meant for. undecided

2. Sickly addicted to nudity? WOW shocked

And here I thought low self-esteem was more connected to shame than unclothedness.


Read well and more - low self-esteem compels one suffering from it to do even stupid things to meet others’ expectations.

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Re: Don't Be A Fine Girl Without Jesus, Pray, Work,slay by Kobojunkie: 5:48pm On Dec 21, 2023
Kingson28:
Read well and more - low self-esteem compels one suffering from it to do even stupid things to meet others’ expectations.
So let me get this straight! You equate your unclothedness to stupidity meaning God was stupid to have made you naked from your mother's womb? And your ancestors were equally stewpid for running around naked? undecided

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Re: Don't Be A Fine Girl Without Jesus, Pray, Work,slay by deyplay: 6:34pm On Dec 21, 2023
Kobojunkie:
I live here in Oyinbo land and I can tell you that even the lamest of Oyinbos still carry for head pass your average Nigerian boy. lipsrsealed
hmm. Where in Oyinbo land please and be sincere otherwise u will see the opposite of your desires in life.?
Re: Don't Be A Fine Girl Without Jesus, Pray, Work,slay by Kobojunkie: 6:35pm On Dec 21, 2023
deyplay:
hmm. Where in Oyinbo land please and be sincere otherwise u will see the opposite of your desires in life.?
Please elucidate on the claim made in bold. undecided
Re: Don't Be A Fine Girl Without Jesus, Pray, Work,slay by Sangoamadioha1: 6:38pm On Dec 21, 2023
Kobojunkie:
This is what I call "meaningless" gibberish! Saying so much yet saying absolutely nothing at the same time. undecided
God cursed man and woman above. He placed a curse on childbearing, on marriage, on the handwork of man, and man himself in the context above. You lot accept the curse God placed on the handwork of man's hands and the man himself but not on woman and childbearing simply because your gods of men have not taught you to accept those other curses as facts of God's judgment, nothing more.. lipsrsealed

If you reason what God did above, you will come to realize that the curse on the woman in marriage and in childbearing is designed by God to ensure that all Sons of man are cursed from their very moment of conception — whether born in a test tube or from an artificial womb—right until the day they leave this world. But you are unable to do that because your gods of men — your pastors and mogs — are themselves ignorant of this. lipsrsealed


Oya, enjoy your curse nah😒
Re: Don't Be A Fine Girl Without Jesus, Pray, Work,slay by deyplay: 6:40pm On Dec 21, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Please elucidate on the claim made in bold. undecided
You claim you are abroad. I made a post based on my current experience, you countered me as someone presently living overseas too. So, I am telling u to back up your claims with veracity.
Re: Don't Be A Fine Girl Without Jesus, Pray, Work,slay by Kobojunkie: 6:45pm On Dec 21, 2023
Sangoamadioha1:
■ Oya, enjoy your curse nah😒
God, who you claim to believe in, placed this curse on man and woman. So it isn't my curse but a curse that we are all saddled with from the moment of conception until the moment we exit this world — we all have that curse on everything we do of our own will. So, let's stop living in denial of what is written abeg! undecided
Re: Don't Be A Fine Girl Without Jesus, Pray, Work,slay by Kobojunkie: 6:47pm On Dec 21, 2023
deyplay:
■ You claim you are abroad. I made a post based on my current experience, you countered me as someone presently living overseas too. So, I am telling u to back up your claims with veracity.
Well, even if I don't live abroad, it doesn't change the truth of what I said given reality speaks volumes of the many differences in how the members of the various societies approach issues of community and country. undecided
Re: Don't Be A Fine Girl Without Jesus, Pray, Work,slay by Sangoamadioha1: 6:49pm On Dec 21, 2023
Kobojunkie:
God, who you claim to believe in, placed this curse on man and woman. So it isn't my curse but a curse that we are all saddled with from the moment of conception until the moment we exit this world — we all have that curse on everything we do of our own will. So, let's stop living in denial of what is written abeg! undecided


Like I said, enjoy your curse 😒
Re: Don't Be A Fine Girl Without Jesus, Pray, Work,slay by bentenny(m): 7:01pm On Dec 21, 2023
Kobojunkie:
This one is still playing word games with scripture. grin

In the same passage that is Genesis 3 vs 16 - 24, you lot believe God cursed man to die, even without the word curse appearing in the context but somehow the word curse has to be attached before you can accept that God also cursed marriage and childbearing there too? Who you dey deceive? grin

I know you have a deep rooted issue or struggle with comprehension but I also believe in second chances....now read my earlier comments and this time slowly for proper assimilation esp the highlighted.....

However,if you are still bent on using Gen 3:16 as a reference to your assertions,then I will leave you to your apparent folly and allow others witness your naked ina.nity!

I will not be dragged or swayed by your apparently benighted and obviously tactless prevarication until you are able to 'sufficiently' show me from scriptures where God outrightly condemned or using your own words,'cursed' marriage and childbearing! I am fully aware of your 'matter' on NL streets and I'm willing to play the fool by engaging you with the intent to expose your obvious lack of understanding on issues you have zero grasp on! Like I said before,if you cannot show anyone about your preposterous and quite hilarious assertions please keep quiet and stop misquoting the bible!
Re: Don't Be A Fine Girl Without Jesus, Pray, Work,slay by Kobojunkie: 7:02pm On Dec 21, 2023
bentenny:
I know you have a deep rooted issue or struggle with comprehension but I also believe in second chances....now read my earlier comments and this time slowly for proper assimilation esp the highlighted.....
This one is still playing word games with scripture. grin

In the same passage that is Genesis 3 vs 16 - 24, you lot believe God cursed man to die, even without the word curse appearing in the context but somehow the word curse has to be attached before you can accept that God also cursed marriage and childbearing there too? Who you dey deceive? grin
Re: Don't Be A Fine Girl Without Jesus, Pray, Work,slay by bentenny(m): 7:07pm On Dec 21, 2023
Kobojunkie:
This one is still playing word games with scripture. grin

In the same passage that is Genesis 3 vs 16 - 24, you lot believe God cursed man to die, even without the word curse appearing in the context but somehow the word curse has to be attached before you can accept that God also cursed marriage and childbearing there too? Who you dey deceive? grin
You are the one obviously deceiving yourself and still laughing at your folly!
Not surprised!
You cannot even provide a single scripture to corroborate your claims!
Even the scriptures you keep using has got zero connection!
I really need to know who taught you English language because they obviously did a terrible job!
Re: Don't Be A Fine Girl Without Jesus, Pray, Work,slay by Kobojunkie: 7:09pm On Dec 21, 2023
bentenny:
You are the one obviously deceiving yourself and still laughing at your folly!
Not surprised! cannot even provide a single scripture to corroborate your claims! Even the scriptures you keep using has got zero connection!
I really need to know who taught you English language because they obviously did a terrible job!
This one is still playing word games with scripture. grin

In the same passage that is Genesis 3 vs 16 - 24, you lot believe God cursed man to die, even without the word curse appearing in the context but somehow the word curse has to be attached before you can accept that God also cursed marriage and childbearing there too? Who you dey deceive? grin
Re: Don't Be A Fine Girl Without Jesus, Pray, Work,slay by bentenny(m): 7:20pm On Dec 21, 2023
Kobojunkie:
This one is still playing word games with scripture. grin

In the same passage that is Genesis 3 vs 16 - 24, you lot believe God cursed man to die, even without the word curse appearing in the context but somehow the word curse has to be attached before you can accept that God also cursed marriage and childbearing there too? Who you dey deceive? grin


I will not be dragged or swayed by your apparently benighted and obviously tactless prevarication until you are able to 'sufficiently' show me from scriptures where God outrightly condemned or using your own words,'cursed' marriage and childbearing! I am fully aware of your 'matter' on NL streets and I'm willing to play the fool by engaging you with the intent to expose your obvious lack of understanding on issues you have zero grasp on! Like I said before,if you cannot show anyone about your preposterous and quite hilarious assertions please keep quiet and stop misquoting the bible!
Re: Don't Be A Fine Girl Without Jesus, Pray, Work,slay by Kingson28: 12:07am On Dec 22, 2023
Kobojunkie:
So let me get this straight! You equate your unclothedness to stupidity meaning God was stupid to have made you naked from your mother's womb? And your ancestors were equally stewpid for running around naked? undecided


You don't appear to me as someone who comprehends English language.

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Re: Don't Be A Fine Girl Without Jesus, Pray, Work,slay by Kobojunkie: 12:12am On Dec 22, 2023
Kingson28:
■ You don't appear to me as someone who comprehends English language.
That would be your problem actually. You seem to think it makes sense to assume that being naked means one is insecure... when unclothedness has little to nothing to do with any such given the example of Adam and Eve which you had pointed you in one of your comments. undecided
Re: Don't Be A Fine Girl Without Jesus, Pray, Work,slay by deekseen(m): 12:22am On Dec 22, 2023
Kobojunkie:
You mean you need me to explain what is written in cleartext in the verse you quoted? undecided

This is the same evasive response you've been giving others.

Explain to us as someone who claims to live in oyinbo land. No way.

Explain to us as someone who understands scriptures. You dey run round bush.

Blasphemy will not do you any good. Stop trying to do the devil's homework for him.

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Re: Don't Be A Fine Girl Without Jesus, Pray, Work,slay by Kobojunkie: 12:31am On Dec 22, 2023
deekseen:
■ This is the same evasive response you've been giving others.
■ Explain to us as someone who claims to live in oyinbo land. No way.
■ Explain to us as someone who understands scriptures. You dey run round bush. Blasphemy will not do you any good. Stop trying to do the devil's homework for him.
Evasive? The text is in English... it states right there that it is conditioned on marriage while the other is conditioned on childbearing. Basically, one curse only applies when there is a marriage and the other when childbearing is involved. What more do you need it to say before you realize it for what is written? undecided

If you do not believe I am in oyinbo land, why do I need to put in any effort to prove anything to you? Seems more like your issues here have nothing to do with me. undecided

As for blasphemy.... are you a Muslim that you would believe it applies as far as the common man? lipsrsealed
Re: Don't Be A Fine Girl Without Jesus, Pray, Work,slay by deekseen(m): 1:35am On Dec 22, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Evasive? The text is in English... it states right there that it is conditioned on marriage while the other is conditioned on childbearing. Basically, one curse only applies when there is a marriage and the other when childbearing is involved. What more do you need it to say before you realize it for what is written? undecided

If you do not believe I am in oyinbo land, why do I need to put in any effort to prove anything to you? Seems more like your issues here have nothing to do with me. undecided

As for blasphemy.... are you a Muslim that you would believe it applies as far as the common man? lipsrsealed

Well, I know your issue is with this portion, "...and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee."

Your interpretation is just feminist, it does not have anything to do with marriage. As a feminist, all you see is power imbalance and male dominance.

God is the one that created marriage, and after what happened He says," woman, you're now under your husband's authority," and you are now saying that means marriage has been abolished?

In this regard, your feminist perception and interpretation of this scripture only makes you a rebel. It does not change the fact that marriage is legal, neither does it prove that marriage is a curse.

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Re: Don't Be A Fine Girl Without Jesus, Pray, Work,slay by Jewessgratitud3: 1:42am On Dec 22, 2023
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