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Jesus Was A Black Man Born Of A Black Woman | Dr Mathole Motshekga by MindHacker9009(m): 1:56pm On Jan 13 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YG1AJPJVzM8 Transcript 0:00 Mary Magdalene Mary magdala even the French records say she's a mar magdala 0:09 and a an Ethiopian so Jesus was a black man born of a black 0:16 woman and married to a black woman and H it's not true that he was the mother was 0:24 inp impregnated by the spirit of God they write the Bible 0:31 ER later ignore that story of creation and they put the story of Adam who uh is 0:40 physically created by God according to the story according to their story yeah 0:45 and then from there H that God takes a rip out of this Adam and create a woman 0:53 which is all nonsense there was also a philosophy of reincarnation that uh there are people 1:00 who lived in the past who can be born in small children you find that a child 1:07 actually is an older person but he's a child H they said no that should not be 1:15 taught because uh people will not obey us as the Imperial Power King King David 1:22 Studio podcast I have with me here someone I I hold very highly and whose 1:28 knowledge intrigues me and how he knows so much intrigues me as well I have um a 1:34 former Chief whip of thec many years ago and it's a 1:41 privilege what is your African 1:48 name yes wow you'll find that 1:53 name among the first faroh it's written 1:58 in grief in Greek NEC rofus what yes how did you inherit such a big name surely 2:07 somebody must have given my guardian Spirit jeez is it a name that's found in 2:13 your family yes you know in all my family every household will have a child 2:20 called KIRO okay KIRO like he K is my son okay my elder sister was a kfo m M 2:30 uh and uh my younger sister was also kuu 2:37 yes yeah yeah so the name runs from the 1700s my gosh but but you say it it has 2:44 a link to it's written in Greek and all of that how does how does your uh people 2:52 connect with with with with this other Nation uh we came from u a place called 3:00 napta napta H next to the nuba mountains in 3:07 the Sudan okay which was the hotland of ancient Ethiopia M and that's why the 3:14 people from that area came to be known as Nubians and those are the people who 3:20 created ancient Ethiopian civilization okay and the 3:25 ancient Ethiopians or Nubians created the Egypt Egyptian civilization got you 3:32 but you know from that area other Nubians went to West Africa others to 3:39 East Africa others to the South and that's why you would find Empires like 3:52 Monga Benin h zange on the on on the coast all 3:58 these kingdoms where and the canas of ancient ethopians all these kingdoms are actually came out 4:07 of ancient Ethiopia and these were the custodians of ancient African 4:15 civilizations so the Egyptians are descendants of a h African indigenous 4:23 Africans who originated at the source of the N but you see from the time of uh 4:30 Abraham who was a colonialist h you have the the people 4:37 called the hios who are the fourbears of the Jews and then you have the libyans 4:44 of Shong then you have the Persians you have the Greeks the Romans the Arabs all 4:53 these people colonized Egypt that's why the population of Egypt became so mi 5:00 today you won't even recognize that those people are indigenous Africans and they are called H cop cops or Coptic 5:09 people yeah and people don't even ask theel the root of the work copt because 5:14 he capta okay oh from where they from yeah in Greek capta is Copus I was 5:21 telling you that we originated in napta the word napta capta and even the word 5:28 Egypt derives from haap the land of god wow 5:34 and the name Ethiopia it comes from atap 5:40 but if you say tap or tapa if you RSE PA and T then you have 5:46 p and there's an Ethiopian far sabat 5:53 Sabaka who discovered an old old document called the manfight story stone 6:00 that stone later came to be named after him as Sabaka stone that stone today you 6:07 find it in the British M museum museum yeah that is the oldest 6:14 document which talks about the origins of the world how everything was created 6:21 but U that document was uh published in 6:27 76 uh BC but what happens is H they write the 6:34 Bible uh later ignore that story of creation and they put the story of Adam 6:43 who uh is physically created by God according to the story according to 6:49 their story yeah and then from there uh that God takes a rip out of this Adam 6:56 and create a woman which is all nonsense but uh we have been made to believe that 7:02 story and all of us even those of us who are not white or Europeans we believe 7:09 we're the children of Adam but if you go into history uh or if you just make 7:16 calculations based on the Bible Adam was uh created in the year 7:23 4,044 BC by the year 30,000 BC 7:29 Africans had already built pyramids temples they've already invented writing 7:36 they had produced literature now why on Earth do we take the later story foreign 7:44 story and make it our story and then live our true story that we have which 7:52 is documented because the Romans don't have 7:57 a history m they are history that with Romeo and Juliet some somewhere in the 8:04 700 Years BC now they got hold of the Jewish story 8:11 and found that because they wanted to build an Empire they must use the Jewish 8:17 story to say no all of us come from Adam they want to use that to unify us and 8:25 when they got the Christian story they course everybody was forced to be a 8:31 Christian but the Christianity that the Romans created is a materialistic Christianity 8:39 because it gives you a white woman who has a white boy child and they say the 8:47 white woman is a mother of God the white child is the the Son of God and that 8:54 story uh was also false because uh the mother of Jesus was not a European she 9:03 came from the family of 9:08 Po Mary Amon that's those names you can't find anywhere in the world except 9:14 in Africa yeah but when the Greeks colonized Egypt pamu 9:21 becomes and Mary am becomes maram okay but you can't find the same name maram 9:28 anywhere in the the world except in Africa so Jesus was known as a 9:37 yosua Ben Mary Amon okay and yosu that 9:43 Yeshua in Greek is Jesus Mary Amon is maram so Jesus was called son of Yeshua 9:50 Ben maram and that's why in Ethiopia now you find a church called The Church of 9:57 maram of Zion uh but uh the other thing that people 10:02 don't realize is that actually what is called you know say Austine it says that 10:09 which is called Christianity never has not existed it has existed before the beginning from 10:17 the beginning of time now ask yourself where did it exist that 10:23 Christianity comes from Africa and the name Christ is a 10:29 of the word harak which is also spelled 10:35 XP in Greek XP Act is XP and is pronounced Christos so there 10:44 is no evidence of a word Christ existing anywhere except in in in in Africa and 10:53 actually you see the pyramids of ancient Ethiopia and Egypt 11:00 ER you also have the sphinxes those sphinxes are the oldest 11:07 statue of the Christ who was also called usara the son 11:13 of the son in Greek is Osiris so that's 11:18 why there was a a fight over Christianity because uh Jesus was not 11:27 Christ he was a prophet of the African Christ and he was appointed by the great 11:34 car solar Brotherhood to propagate the popular version of Christianity for the 11:42 masses but H there that's why we distinguish between esoteric 11:47 Christianity which is a kind of a secret Doctrine and EXO exoteric Christianity 11:55 so Jesus was teaching the the popular one because 12:00 the problem there was that people were rough they were aggressive unruly unruly so the 12:08 Jesus had to teach something to tame the people so he was sent he was not sent by 12:14 God he was sent by the great solar uh 12:20 Society uh which actually is a secret 12:25 organization that came from the source of the Nile and this great solar Society 12:31 was called were called the Servants of the son Shamu har and in Greek Shemu hor 12:40 and then also called Horus Kings that's why the eagle became the most important Beed 12:49 because it symbolizes Royal the Royal Soul spir spirituality you can see also 12:56 this the Germans Americans the Americans use it but they don't know 13:01 where it comes from you see for instance even the word Roy itself Royal derives 13:08 from ra which is the son so where it's only 13:13 Africans who say we are the children of the sun thenis will say Children of the 13:22 son the the shers will say we are Kanga 13:28 children of the Sun and on Lake Victoria there's an island called 13:34 ukara where our Institute Cara Heritage in takes the name that island is also 13:41 called uranga ranga is the son or ulanga langa 13:47 is the son K is the son so that area you 13:53 find people who call themselves on that island V 14:06 all the same all referring to people of the sun people or children of the Sun 14:11 and that's where even the Egyptians when they moved up they 14:17 established a city called Sakara sa means land Cara the land of of the Sun 14:24 the people go to West Africa they a city in Ghana 14:29 which is a distortion of aara which is the city of the Sun and then at Mia here 14:37 and Great Zimbabwe they had temples African people before the wise came the 14:45 temples were called aara and then the Greeks say is 14:50 Acropolis okay even up in Egypt they talk about Acropolis and then the Arabs 14:56 talk about Al aara but all this means the city of uh the son or the city of 15:05 the son God so we have better explanations of who we are where we come 15:12 from how we got to where we we are you've said a mouthful but I want you to complete your thought you're saying 15:19 because yeah but you see uh the materialist Christianity of the Romans 15:27 which is not about God is about capturing people and promising 15:32 them that if you believe in Jesus when you die you will go to 15:39 heaven and then H there was also a philosophy of 15:45 reincarnation that there are people who lived in the past who can be born in 15:50 small children you find that a child actually he an older person but he's a 15:58 child MH H they said no that should not be taught because uh people will not 16:06 obey us as the Imperial power because they will think they have another chance 16:11 of coming back to life so they banned that now when they got into Ethiopia 16:19 there was a church called paraka you can see PA means the house 16:26 laa the son so palaka is like zun which 16:32 they pronounce zun is the city of the sun and the oldest university in Africa was the University of Anu and then in 16:40 the Bible they call it on and the Greeks call it heliopolis the city of the Sun 16:46 so the sun is Central why is the sun Central the sun is Central because uh 16:53 you see as an African philosopher called 16:58 lord K or ta har in Greek thought hamus he 17:03 says that the son is the visible God because the Sun that we see doesn't have 17:11 light there's a sun behind it that sun behind it is 17:17 called K which means Spirit of the sun okay or 17:23 the Divine Light so this sun is a transmitter of of the Divine Light and 17:31 uh that's why all the African kings or rather let me say the 17:37 sun is called ER fura 17:44 Faro far in thean language par okay and that 17:50 means the son king or the king of heaven but it is also 17:57 called in the K language which means someone who controls all the four 18:03 quarters of the world and that's why you have radi and whether you are in Vendor 18:12 or or to even when you 18:17 greet I'll say toel which means I acknowledge the facts 18:24 that you are the child of the son you are a royal person because you are a 18:29 child of the son and you will say Mor because Mor is another word for H 18:38 the son or the Heavenly being that's why V they will 18:45 say meaning the king theas will talk about kumuk the Zulus will 18:54 say but is the same as Mas okay and that's 19:00 why African kings and queens H were defined as Divine or sacred beings so we 19:08 are closer to God as African people and that's why we don't we didn't make 19:14 pictures uh of God because we see God as a spiritual being as a a a a light being 19:23 but we have been given white pictures now we think we're h educ ated we are 19:30 civilized we are Godly but when actually African people are not worshiping God 19:36 they are worshiping Europeans icons and then the same Bible they say don't uh worship idols but 19:45 they've given us Idols in our churches we have all these idols and and so on |
Re: Jesus Was A Black Man Born Of A Black Woman | Dr Mathole Motshekga by MindHacker9009(m): 1:58pm On Jan 13 |
19:51 how did how did um and and the question is probably the answer is probably obvious how did we get captured so 19:59 strongly by the European H beliefs that was clearly as 20:05 you you said earlier to capture it's more designed to capture than than to free you see when the Romans got into 20:13 Egypt there was a Christianity called Coptic Christianity 20:19 okay or a gnostic Christianity and now they felt that that 20:27 Christian it doesn't serve their purpose because it says 20:34 that there's a Divine spark in you which is also called the indwelling spirit the 20:41 spiritual man in you in other words your body is really a vehicle for something 20:50 that came from above so you are Divine but uh they decided that that is 20:57 nonsense they defined it as paganism and then 21:03 decided that the real religion is that of believing in Jesus who they said he 21:10 died and he would and resur got resurrected in 3 days and that guy Jesus 21:16 never even died there the person who died was an African disciple of his 21:22 called Simon of serin and Serene or Serena is a Tunis 21:28 so it's an African also who died yeah but that African two clever 21:34 women they went to the Grave remove the Cs of that Simon of serene so that the 21:41 Romans should not come and see that they killed the wrong person and start 21:47 looking for the right person and that Jesus fled to Ethiopia with his wife 21:53 Mary Magdalene Mary magdala even the French records say she's a 22:00 Mara magdala and a an Ethiopian so Jesus was a black man born of 22:08 a black woman and married to a black woman and it's not true that he was the 22:17 mother was in impregnated by the spirit of God but 22:22 the thing is that the Romans were a strong Army me and they 22:29 take a decision that all other beliefs are pagan the only religion is what they 22:36 are teaching and they got a a soldier called jerom who wrote the vgar Bible and that 22:45 vgar Bible was amended or revised more than a thousand times okay but they said 22:52 it was the word of God now nobody ever had tea with God or lunch with God when 22:58 you revise the word of God what do you put there because God is is not there so we have been fed with lies and 23:07 unfortunately H you know the attacks of African people forced us to uh flly to 23:16 migrate to West Africa southern Africa Eastern Africa and all the time now we 23:24 were defending ourselves sometime against one another because it was a 23:30 struggle for survival so when these guys use the maps that they got from Egypt 23:39 maps which were made by Africans for instance you have the oldest map of 150 23:46 ad okay 150 ad there was not even anything called Europe but they used 23:51 those maps to discover Africa and then from the 1400 23:58 they started now going and and so on when they found us they were going with 24:04 their missionaries and then they use the missionaries H to soften us to teach us 24:12 whilst they are taking the land they give us the Bible while when you are busy reading the Bible they take they 24:19 take the land but now you can imagine that from uh 24:25 1652 when you are educated by a foreigner who tells you that what your 24:31 grandparents are telling you is not right and then you internalize that 24:36 nonsense at the end you think that that is the only truth that exist in the 24:44 world and that's why our children now you know starting with caas they said no 24:49 rewrite history but now the pro government is a problem the uh 24:56 Department of basic education appointed a committee to rewrite African 25:03 history how do they do it because the real sources are hidden by the Europeans 25:09 they give us books written by the missionaries and then you have to rewrite African history based on the 25:15 falsehood created by the missionaries uh you know I was in Cape Town day before 25:23 yesterday uh the young rain Queen phones me she says know I'm debating with 25:29 someone uh he's saying this and uh I think he's wrong this is the right 25:36 version I was so happy that young kids are debating history so I had an 25:42 opportunity to say you see the history that it teach them we go to Europe H 25:49 talk about uh capitalism communism the struggle between the two but uh then 25:57 when they come to us they teach them from thec and Mandela African people 26:04 existed long before thec and thatc was even a product of the struggles of the 26:09 African people now if you teach our children that our history starts with Mandela what are you trying to say it 26:16 means that Africans did not exist before 1652 so I think that the kasas and other 26:27 young people were right to say Let's decolonize uh history 26:35 decolonize H the curriculum because uh you know we |
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26:40 complain about State capture actually the biggest capture facing us is the 26:46 mental capture our professors are mentally captured our politicians are 26:53 mentally captured H our religious leaders are mentally captured 26:58 and unless and until we break away from that mental capture there's no way that 27:05 the African person is going to be free and that's why you can see 27:12 Africans are the best musicians H this J that they came up all 27:18 this General because uh most of these artists 27:24 are not themselves they are vehicles of the spirits of the ancestors they get 27:32 inspired uh you know you sit here you say you want to Archive why do you want 27:37 to Archive H for whom because you have 27:43 access to the stories why why don't you simply say no I know the stories I will tell my children what is the spirit that 27:50 drives you to say this information is important for the future beyond beyond 27:56 you so most of us are doing things and we even call ourselves I'm gifted in 28:03 this I'm gifted in that but it is the spiritual world that is H driving us you 28:10 know there was the Negro Renaissance uh called halem 28:16 Renaissance uh in New York most of these panafrican 28:22 leaders used to go the wuma as a k and 28:27 even M Mandela they will say that they were produced by that buam Kuma Fidel 28:33 Castro he went there they have a paper called Bohemia H so the spirit the 28:39 African spirit is the same whether it's in the Caribbean Jamaica and so on but it is our our 28:47 ancest that living in us who keep on say no this is the direction but now media 28:54 has become so strong that now those who controls the media now are the people 29:02 who carry on the Roman agenda which denies us our own spirituality who we 29:09 are what is our history and that's why the initiative like 29:14 yours uh is a really very important and 29:21 a revolutionary uh uh initiative because you want to tell stories 29:28 which are not popular there H and but those if you want to rebuild Africa 29:34 those are the stories that we need you know for instance now the Indians are able to go to the moon the 29:42 Chinese can go to the moon but they have the Indian story to 29:49 tell there's not even a Jesus there they have their own 29:54 religion and uh as a result they don't feel inferior to anybody or any religion 30:01 the Chinese they have their religion but the African religion and story is the 30:07 oldest but because we were conquered and most 30:13 brutalized and our leaders are the products of colonialism are the product 30:18 of Christianity in the north the product of Islam they are captured by those two 30:23 religions so there's no space left for us so I think that the work that we are 30:31 doing is very important and I'm very happy that you even discover that young 30:37 people uh where the young people go for for stories and that is very uh helpful 30:46 because if they can access these stories uh the world would never be be the same 30:53 again you see for instance you know uh president 30:59 Becky president Mandela they were talking about the African Renaissance which was started by Pixley 31:08 kaaga who was influenced by ancient African religion because for instance he 31:14 said I am an African and he attributed the 31:20 achievements of ancient Ethiopian Egypt to African 31:25 genius and I had thought that when the mandelas the beis and other African 31:32 leaders talk about African Renaissance they will go back to 31:38 pixers and say why does this man claim that we are the ones who produce the 31:44 pyramids the sun temples writing because uh this Western 31:51 uh alphabet is based on heroglyph writing her glyphic writing came 31:59 from Ethiopia black Africa so-called yeah and now there were three other 32:06 types of alphabets so the Greeks the Romans and so on the Europeans adapted 32:12 our writing and produce an alphabet and come back to us and say we're 32:18 reiterate H we depend on oral history we don't have a form of writing where have 32:24 they develop their form of writing from our writing and then right now if you go to Europe 32:31 and America they teach heroglyph but in our universities they can't teach 32:37 hieroglyphics why is that because they are trying to say the authors of 32:44 hieroglyphics were not indigenous Africans that's why they even come with 32:50 a story that ancient e Egyptians came from Atlantis and they say that ocean is 32:59 Atlantic Ocean but the old Maps say that ocean was an Ethiopian ocean and then 33:06 they come here and say that you have Indian Ocean but that ocean was the zange ocean and Zan is the root of the 33:15 word aania is the root of the word Tanzania the root of the word zanba which is 33:23 zanba so linguistically and otherwise the whole of Africa is an indigenous 33:31 African continent and the people were indigenous Africans now you take 33:37 Mediterranean Ocean it was called a afar 33:42 ocean the word afar like afur means in Hebrew is ofia which means the land of 33:50 the Sun King and then if you put car at the end is AAR car or a auraa and in 33:59 Latin afura becomes Africa so even the word Africa is an indigenous word they 34:07 didn't create Africans they didn't create Africa so there are so many 34:13 distortions but now they say to us uh education must prepare us for work 34:22 who's work so when our kids go to school with Indian white kids those ones are 34:30 being prepared to create jobs to be employers ours are being prepared to 34:36 look for employment to be employees so they must be employed by their schoolmates so the whole thing continues 34:43 and continues let's go back to a to a time before cuz we can go back far behind but I'd rather we a time before 34:50 the three ships arrived to South Africa for example because I imagine in other 34:56 African country the ships that arrived as well the story is probably very similar yeah but let's focus on on our 35:02 our story here in this in this country of ours when three ships arve what did 35:08 they find when they got here cuz surely and and I like the phrase that we find often that says so and so discovered 35:15 Africa yet they found people living there so when they found here what did they find and and not only the people 35:21 but also their knowledge based what type of people did they find when they got here you know to start 35:28 with a map uh of 35:34 150 drawn up by in Greek 35:41 pis says there is Egypt uh south of 35:48 Egypt at the you know where the Assan them is M from that area down that's 35:55 Ethiopia they call it Ethiopia uh infra Egypt so Ethiopia 36:03 south of Egypt the Arabs call it Bill Al 36:08 Sudan okay the land of black people now south of the Equator they call 36:16 it Terror Incognito okay in in other 36:22 words southern Africa was called the unknown territory 36:27 Terror inment but unknown to whom to them of course H but with 36:34 us this area Terra incognit was also called 36:42 aazim okay a means land K means spirit 36:47 zimba means the lion the land of the spirit of the lion 36:53 who is this lion this lion is the son 37:02 God so we were here we believed in the 37:08 Sun King or the sun 37:17 Lion now from the zambesi to the cape Colony you have a 37:25 map this map says this was the land of balaga 37:34 okay so which means that before they arrived we didn't have Zulus we didn't 37:41 have PES Cledus vendors H that's why when you talk to 37:47 older people uh like and 37:55 others okay all African people we are the children of the 38:03 Sun but now H the first capital 38:09 city because theala Empire of kalaka was founded |
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38:16 byut or monut who came from ancient 38:21 Ethiopia then they said walaka came to be known as the Empire of 38:28 monut that Empire encompasses bana Namibia MOS all of us belong to to that 38:37 and the Portuguese and the Muslim records testify to that so it's not a 38:43 story that we are inventing they they have that story now uh you find that the first capital 38:52 city was at a place called Ma and uh that is 20ks from 38:59 umina to the West on M P drift Road and 39:06 they have discovered uh artifacts and Graves 39:12 dating back to 450 there but that has not yet been 39:17 explored to Professor Thomas hous of V had started but he died from there the 39:24 royal family moved to a place called bambo The archaeologist call it K2 from 39:32 there they went to munguia when mungu declined they went to Great Zimbabwe and 39:39 then the interference in the domestic affairs of the Empire by the Arabs and 39:45 the Portuguese uh led to the breakdown of that Empire and then the north came to 39:52 be known as mukaranga the South as uroi and uh most of those moved South okay 40:00 and started this the Zulu Kingdom the B Kingdom theana and the Lou and so on and 40:10 when the these people come the yeah they are they meet our people organized 40:17 civilized H being able to feed themselves now they look at the name of 40:23 the leader they say oh this ones their leader is Zulu and they say these are 40:30 Zulus they find a leader is M oh and and when you say this the leader is Zulu the 40:36 leader's name is Zulu yeah the leader's name is Zulu they make everybody Zulu 40:42 uhuh so you you all become Zulus Zulus yeah and then they go to 40:48 Switzerland those swizerland people they come from natal but because their leader 40:54 now is called MTI they said these are STIs so you can see now the new 41:00 identities and then 41:06 the go to they find there they 41:15 find now they find and all these people but because 41:24 the person that they who led the 41:42 resistance that's why there was a problem when the language was debated in 41:51 Parliament something called norn SU no no no we are not part of nor Su we 41:59 are not the norn Su yeah yeah and then yeah and that question has not even 42:07 been settled today because we are fighting over identities which are 42:13 actually not our identities you know I go to intered with old people in 42:25 SK M uh and then Loi just means great 42:31 magicians okay because we make rain and 42:37 then okay so who live in plain places okay 42:44 but what brings us together someone pH me today he's 8 42:51 years old he says now he wants to meet me I 43:02 know is 43:07 from you find people say 43:14 now everything goes back to the Sun so the sun is a unifying thing but 43:22 because the root of the word Africa is RA raah is the son God which means the 43:31 word African is the most uniting word and if we all could just learn before we 43:38 give ourselves labels we are an African people and this continent is an African 43:46 continent uh but now some people have taught us uh even educated people in 43:54 this country will tell you that uh we are black South Africans what does that 43:59 mean because yeah we are black South Africans yes the thing is that we are 44:05 Africans but you know with our policies of accommodating everybody we are afraid 44:11 that we are Africans we say we are black people and you are not black for instance when I look at you he's not 44:19 black now how this generality that we we are 44:25 black time H we are not black people but they 44:30 have put this thing in our head because if we accept that we are black we must 44:36 accept that they are white so then South Africa is a land of a land black and 44:42 white people which is not true South Africa is an African country on the 44:50 southern tip of the continent we must accept that there were European settlers 44:56 that came in they conquered us they defined us and today they want to 45:02 control the narrative in the north the Arabs conquered it's documented it's 45:10 there they conquered Egypt Tunisia Algeria they 45:15 conquered the Sudan ancient Ethiopia H and some people even say now |
Re: Jesus Was A Black Man Born Of A Black Woman | Dr Mathole Motshekga by MindHacker9009(m): 2:00pm On Jan 13 |
45:23 the war in the Sudan is actually not the war between them is a a way of 45:31 Exterminating the indigenous people and that's why African people should be 45:37 interested in what is happening in the Sudan this is our cred land but all of 45:42 us are more interested in Israeli Palestinian conflict H but that is a political 45:50 interest because we had an alliance with the PLO pales and people's organization 45:58 but you know you it's not wrong to place solidarity with your friends but you 46:05 don't support your friends at the expense of your own because right now 46:12 the uh there are gorillas insurgence in mosambik we never marched in support of 46:19 mosic and uh the is the situ in the Sudan we don't Mar in support of those 46:26 people there's B Bama in Nigeria we don't Mark against that there's Aras in 46:33 in in Gaza in yeah yeah yeah we raise our voices we raise our voices but not 46:39 not about our own I think we are not saying that is wrong but you cannot when 46:44 your house is burning or your neighbor's house is burning yeah uh then you go to 46:50 solve the neighbor place when you come back there your your children are gone so I think it's our psyche there's 46:58 something wrong with our our psych but but do you do you do you fault us if so 47:05 many years and so much effort has been has been done to try to change the way 47:10 we see the world if if if you you you spend a considerable amount of time in changing a generation and a generation 47:18 after that and generation after that in terms of how they see the world and are you come 20 Generations later you can't 47:25 be surprised when they're gone I I'm I'm not surprised and I don't think anybody 47:31 should be surprised but you see uh the first struggle of African people was a 47:39 struggle against uh slavery although there's still 47:44 some practice of slaver but I can say we won that first strugle the second 47:50 struggle was against colonialism uh because we were 47:56 physically subjugated but after gaining political 48:02 Freedom we thought we have arrived and we haven't arrived because the mind is still in 48:10 bondage still colonized so that's why you need younger people who are radical 48:18 who are militant uh not the younger people who 48:23 believe just in slogans m uh and uh if you can look at our 48:28 politics today is really trying to pull one another 48:33 down and uh we forget that the only thing that can free Africa truly is the 48:42 unity of the African people but instead of getting United every African who is 48:48 hungry wants to form a political party how do you explain the fact that we 48:55 claim that democracy comes from Europe and from America and uh in those 49:02 countries the political parties are not more than five in Britain they not more 49:08 than five in America in France but South Africa which became independent just 30 49:14 years ago has more than 40 political parties are those things political 49:20 parties or just groups led by individuals who are seeking power and uh 49:29 resources because you know there is ample time to debate in Parliament you 49:35 listen there's no content you don't know where they want to take this country to 49:40 and that's why they would come together and say they want to form a coalition to 49:46 replace the ANC but they don't tell you replace thec and put which program on 49:54 the agenda so that's why I'm saying the opposition politics in this country are 50:00 wrongly placed uh if you looked yesterday the drama in Parliament with 50:07 regards to the appointment of U yeah a public protector and you see holism at 50:14 play in Parliament now our kids who sit and watch those things when where are 50:21 they going to how are they going to respect the so called 50:26 Parliament uh and uh what is happening there it's not happening in the American 50:32 Parliament it's not happening in Britain it's not happening in France in Germany now which Democrats is this that were 50:41 following but you see there is a hand behind there are people who are funding 50:49 different individuals to form these political parties that we continue 50:56 fighting amongst themselves and forget that our land and natural resources were 51:04 taken at the moment if you can get into a chopper fly overing Hing is becoming a 51:12 big Slam in 50 years this place would be the most an 51:19 inhabitable place instead of African people in Parliament working together 51:27 demand that the land which was stolen from us must be returned to us the 51:33 openers the De Beers are all over in 51:38 skand they all over in Northwest digging out Chrome platinum and everything and 51:46 when they finish digging they leave holes they live the people there have 51:52 not benefited anything from those mines and these mines are not going to be 51:58 recreated which means in 50 years or 100 years all our minerals will be gone 52:07 without benefiting us because we are busy fighting amongst ourselves like uh 52:14 you know if you put uh cakes here the white people are sitting around this 52:19 table eating the cakes the little things that fall on the floor we are fighting 52:25 not for the cakes on the table but for the crumbs below the table that's what 52:30 African leadership is all about that's why they are all these Cs and uh you 52:35 know basically I subscribe to the Au 52:40 position that uh we must silence the guns they should not be CRS on the 52:46 continent but if you have situations like in Niger in Mali H where small fren boys are 52:56 controlling African people and the the budget is controlled in France and they 53:06 decide who must rule the country now how do I in my clear conscience condemn the |
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53:13 the coup in Niger actually with respect to the leadership of the 53:19 continent uh I believe that we must have more nigers H we our people in West 53:27 Africa are actually the most oppressed and you can't liberate this continent 53:32 unless you liberate West Africa because they because their budgets are controlled in 53:38 France then France dictates to the Au because those people will not vote with 53:44 you if you are making a resolution that touches on on France and uh those other 53:52 Arab countries they won't vote with you if if you make a resolution that touches on the Arab world so the Afric African 54:01 Unity becomes a pipe dream so my view is that we must educate the 54:10 youth on the true state of Africa and why we got to be captured in the manner 54:17 in which we are captured and encourage them to be radical and militant but 54:24 informed radicals and militant because there are some young people who will say 54:29 they are militant they are radical without knowledge and that's why you'll 54:35 find that some of the young people they specialize in insulting the older 54:41 generation and uh even saying that now is our time to eat H you must get out of 54:48 the way and that applies in all political parties you know the this 54:54 youth wave uh because I think people were inspired by the spr Yeah but you 55:02 see in life there are Generations our young people first and 55:09 foremost must acquire knowledge so that when they go into politics they must go 55:17 into politics informed by the challenges facing their people and the continent so that they 55:24 don't don't become politicians because they want to eat because other people 55:29 have eaten before they become H politicians because they want to solve 55:36 the problems facing their people when the tambos and the mandelas got into politics they were young people they 55:43 were lawyers but they didn't become lawyers to make money for themselves 55:50 they armed themselves with knowledge to liberate people and uh they never 55:55 enjoyed the fruits H and uh you 56:01 know Mela served one time Tambo died he 56:07 was never he was never in government he was never never Inu was never in 56:12 government but our problem now is that I personally want to benefit when I join a 56:19 political party it must help me to get into positions and then I was make money 56:27 my children must go into model C schools and so on and uh you can see that our 56:34 generation of politicians who took our kids into those model 56:39 schools our our children are not fing Falling In following in our 56:45 footsteps because they feel that they come from middle class places and they 56:52 feel entitled and the leaders that emerge don't emerge 56:58 from the children of the this they come from elsewhere H so 57:05 we have a we have a problem so so you you're saying sorry to interject the history knowing the history cuz that's 57:12 where we started knowing the history of where we come from better 57:17 informs this fight and I call it a fight deliberately because you're using words like militant and radical yeah because 57:24 if you don't truly get it cuz you the perception is that South Africa has always been like this as in demarcated 57:32 with different cultures different um tribes is the the perception is well 57:37 when when those those dradis and Ro or whatever those names were came to South 57:44 Africa they found us exactly the way we are and then when they found us like this they merely re enforced that or won 57:51 small battles and took over places in that way and you say that the knowledge of that history is important for where 57:57 we going it's important because you know for instance uh you 58:05 have the Valu M they came from the monom Empire 58:13 settled in what is called vender land before the so-called vendors arrived 58:19 there from there they moved further down to the area of zanin but uh the first 58:26 rain Queen who took over in 1800 was popularly known as The Rain 58:32 Maker okay Chaka would send 58:37 Kettle H to pay tribute for rain mus will send Kettle wow 58:45 ukun would send Kettle MTI will send Kettle and now you want to tell me that 58:53 these people did not know one another all these Kings they knew that 58:59 is the who creates who is able to to to create a rain yeah and then Shaka 59:05 defined her as a a for breasted woman okay who controls the four corners of 59:12 the world man which means he acknowledged 59:18 acknowledged him M Mar Mado in 59:24 vanderland marries the sister of mushes so the idea of a South 59:31 Africa with this diverse people has they found it there it's 59:36 always been there it was always been there and these people were working together the problem started when the 59:44 Portuguese and other people started to raid people on the 59:49 coast uh to catch them and sell them into slavery MH and then Shaka says y to 59:56 defeat these people we need to be United but he was Reckless because he wanted to 1:00:03 unite people by force instead of sitting with people and say we have a new enemy 1:00:09 how do we work together then by using Force then the Shang Gans so Shang Gans 1:00:17 split and go to mozambik and the Sans come from the Zulu yeah they are the 1:00:23 children of Z uhhuh Zang from there and then 1:00:31 the S break off they went to 1:00:36 swizerland they find there and then because they come from 1:00:43 conflict they were ready to fight and those us were sitting peacefully |
Re: Jesus Was A Black Man Born Of A Black Woman | Dr Mathole Motshekga by MindHacker9009(m): 2:02pm On Jan 13 |
1:00:49 developing eting the result is that those who come armed 1:00:55 then they they the fight they won the fight and those people then come into 1:01:01 and come into pal and all those things B and then 1:01:07 every everywhere like you know 1:01:15 the somebody was saying that 1:01:23 actually but today we 1:01:31 say okay but 1:01:42 now they lost they lost so I'm saying these people didn't find us on the trees like 1:01:51 monkeys we were settled communities and and able to produce even ion that's why 1:01:58 we could make Spears true and we could make you know where Bangles and things 1:02:05 like that so that's why they even called that ter an ion age we didn't learn ion 1:02:10 from them we could mine you know for instance in in job they say they 1:02:17 discovered gold our people taking gold here at mville cop they were uh mining 1:02:24 copper in Kimberly so there's nothing that they discovered they found us with 1:02:30 all these resources took them over and write the history in a way which suggest 1:02:36 that they discovered us they discovered these things but the problem 1:02:42 is they are the ones who then came with the Western education they are the ones 1:02:48 who wrote those books and wrote These false stories into the books now all of 1:02:54 of us even our professors and everybody they can talk without quoting a European 1:03:01 M so education means that you must know more about Europe than yourselves that's 1:03:08 a loss and and the the quand what which which part of History do they fall in 1:03:13 because very often H we find even very recently they were protesting to be 1:03:19 acknowledged even the language to be acknowledged where in this history do they fall cuz very sadly they they 1:03:26 continue to become a forgotten nation in a lot of ways yeah you see unfortunately 1:03:33 if you go into history ancient Egypt of about 400 1:03:41 b knew about the Coan and that they were at the southern tip of the continent M 1:03:49 and uh you will find ships from Egypt 1:03:55 on the coast of mosambik because they said from mosambik 1:04:00 Southward it was the land of the koan and those kisan far were called 1:04:08 paru and they were dressed exactly like the ancient Egyptians so now the 1:04:15 colonialist wants to suggest that the koan were just subhuman things uh they 1:04:22 were not civilized and it's not true H but again the problem is 1:04:28 that when the B to groups moved further down H they found 1:04:36 the kisan but what is 1:04:41 interesting used to say and say that we must treat the 1:04:52 question because the kisan are our four bears and I don't 1:04:58 know how you would explain that but if you look at 1:05:04 the paintings and the caves and so on you will find the history of the 1:05:10 Kisa and which goes to very far in Antiquity and they draw they are short 1:05:18 but they draw their ancestors as tall people who got stunted sometime in the 1:05:24 course of history and these people in the secret Tis of Africa they are called 1:05:34 wo or wondo which are called The Lion people 1:05:40 who are also called vanare or vanar which means the children of God 1:05:48 but they also called or which means the most ancient ones so 1:05:56 which means that the most ancient part of the world is Southern Africa and the 1:06:03 people uh moved from the area of the Great Lakes source of the Nile and 1:06:10 spread elsewhere so the kisan are very much part of ancient 1:06:17 African history but but when the other people come they meet with them they 1:06:23 call them hot and tots Bushman and they raped their wives and 1:06:30 produced the colored population and they reduced them 1:06:37 to nothing but mush would say anybody who ill treats a kisan person is ill 1:06:45 treating our ancestor and that person must be sentenced to death so African 1:06:51 people respected this question as a ERS that's why if you look at the Tas in 1:06:59 Wana Northwest Northern Cape they are light complexions you can see that 1:07:05 they're a mixed people they mixed with the Kisa because they settle there and 1:07:11 Inter intermate with them you look at Thea this clicks of Thea they actually 1:07:18 the Coan clicks because they intermar with them and settled 1:07:25 so the Coan have a history which was 1:07:31 neglected and that's why now they are asserting themselves saying that we are 1:07:37 the First Nation think they are they are right why is it that they're having 1:07:43 difficulties with with our current uh our current government for example and 1:07:48 and and this question this question goes back to a point you raised earlier that when when when we as Africans take over 1:07:56 power one on the agenda is to get all power including that of the land and 1:08:02 that of our own cultures but why is it that we seem to be struggling with with this very simple 1:08:08 concept you see uh I think the problem is that uh once they start ass setting 1:08:16 their right to land then uh some of our leaders get 1:08:22 threatened and want to suppress that uh you know for instance I was 1:08:31 saying that the the kisan had a Divine kingship very 1:08:37 Advanced astronomy and their kings were actually 1:08:42 far mar they pronounced that as paru H so the whole Sun centered 1:08:51 philosophy of the Egyptians M these people had it they even know the stars 1:09:00 when they do their rituals then they dance around around fire which fire 1:09:07 symbolizes the sun you know for instance 1:09:12 in h when you install a queen or a 1:09:18 king uh you first uh extinguish the fire 1:09:24 and light a new fire okay which means the new ruler is the representative of the sun 1:09:33 on on Earth and now when there are 1:09:38 rituals the light becomes Central and the same thing with the quisan and other 1:09:45 African African people because if you look at 1:09:52 all Africans now we celebrate New Year on the 1st of 1:10:00 January who are we celebrating because the rains come in 1:10:07 September and in October uh we hold rain making 1:10:14 ceremonies and then uh in November we celebrate U nature 1:10:22 conversation in December M his first food celebrations and then in March his 1:10:29 Harvest celebrations now they gave us a a Roman Calendar 1:10:38 Gregorian calendar the Romans didn't even have a calendar when Julius Caesar conquered 1:10:47 Egypt and fell in love with the Cleopatra I 7th he Lent about the 1:10:54 African calendar and then from there he asked someone to adopt it for their use but 1:11:03 because the seasons differ in the north and in the south of course they make it upside down H there 1:11:12 summer is our winter winter yeah and vice versa and then uh they gave us the 1:11:20 version of the distorted calendar of the West which actually is a 1:11:27 copy of our calendar which they distorted but if you go to you can go to 1:11:34 any community in South Africa Zimbabwe southern Africa they will say that the year 1:11:42 starts in uh September ask them why 1:11:47 because uh in September at the dawn of the new moon in 1:11:55 September there are seven stars that appear at the center of Heaven these 1:12:02 stars in K will say k the will say the will 1:12:14 say say say so that 1:12:21 celestial worldview unites all of us so if we were to 1:12:27 celebrate New Year in September as African people that would be the first H 1:12:34 basis for our unity and why do we 1:12:40 celebrate that when those stars appear because we say 1:12:48 is sh in chimo in 1:12:54 s in theas TAS now even the 1:13:01 season our season it's me is named after the celestial sphere true and now those 1:13:10 Seven Stars they form a secular wall of 1:13:16 Heaven inside there you have the highest being that highest 1:13:24 being is called tapa or tapa is the root of the name Ethiopia 1:13:33 p is the root of the name Egypt but that is aapa and is defined as 1:13:41 the one or the good that we call God but this one of 1:13:47 the good is an unknown and unknowable God which manifested itself as the Queen 1:13:54 of Heaven or now that 1:14:03 mui is Kanga mui is Kanga and mu is 1:14:09 kalanga and the Su people say 1:14:15 muali or muali and that muhal or muhal is called 1:14:21 nari Ina it's called Nali inv vender and then that Queen of Heaven is 1:14:30 also defined as the most high the most high in De is 1:14:35 zimu in Kanga in vend isimu 1:14:43 in so when these people came we believed 1:14:49 in the higher being that is not been a human 1:14:56 being and so on that's why you have Mountain named after 1:15:02 God and that goddess is also 1:15:07 called ma 1:15:13 or or Mali or Mali okay then H you have 1:15:20 a country called Burundi uh rundi or lundi means the 1:15:27 sun defined as the needle that we whips together Heaven and Earth okay now in 1:15:33 Zimbabwe you have a river called lundi and the Limpopo River on the bana 1:15:38 side is called uni inting you have OD that ODI is uni you have Mal malundi 1:15:47 mountains in keran you have inaga lundi in the Eastern Cape you have maluti 1:15:54 mountains in the natal in in the Free State 1:16:01 and you have Mal Mal but if you ask the people why this 1:16:09 Lo where does it come from because we ignore our language people don't don't 1:16:14 know what it what it means so our religion is also reflected in the names 1:16:20 of the mountains and uh and and the rivers and that's why you know when I 1:16:27 met Tambo in the 80s he was talking about the new name 1:16:33 for South Africa he was say it must be the Republic of maluti the of 1:16:40 maluni if we had renamed this country the Republic of maluti or malundi we 1:16:48 would be forced to teach our children who is Mal and uh which means our 1:16:56 spirituality would be embedded in the name of the country but because we fail 1:17:03 to do that today if you can do a referendum most of the kids will say 1:17:10 South Africa is Manan that think mzi so popular yes what does it mean M just 1:17:16 mean South there's no content and then others say South Africa must be AIA m is 1:17:23 that why AIA actually the word AIA was the name of 1:17:31 abisinia okay which was called zange or Zen so when African people moved down 1:17:38 the coast They Carried that name H to the South to zanzi to mosambik so South 1:17:45 Africa cannot be azania and the word AIA Oran means 1:17:53 the root or trunk of the tree referring to Ethiopia as a a motherland okay but |
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