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Re: JW 008 by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:07am On Jul 04, 2024
FxMasterz:

Yes, we are so accused. Over the years, the Catholic Church has persecuted Christians who showed them the light.
When the Catholic Church was persecuting their own members as in killing them what was the reason the Catholic Church gave back then?
I know you won't like to answer so i will do it myself.
It was on the ground of saying things contrary to what the church agreed upon in the Bible so if you're here calling a group Satanic for holding onto a teaching different from yours who are you representing, dark ages Catholics or true Christians?
Remember true Christians don't go about arguing with people who aren't worshiping with them once your teaching differs from that of the true Christians they will AVOID you! 2John 10-11 wink

FxMasterz:

That isn't the yardstick for measuring true Christians. Even cults have the same lines of thought.
No CULT has the same line of thought because a CULT only works for the interest of their members apart from that they don't think of engaging the public in discussions all they rely upon is the way their members stands to gain in all the goodies in the world.
True Christians work towards a better world in which peace will reign that's the reason why they have the same line of thought!

Do you see the difference? wink

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Re: JW 008 by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:18am On Jul 04, 2024
In the intelligence we were trained not to say to anyone:
"you lied" or "you are lying"
It's when the discussion gets really tough that a liar will no longer be comfortable with the topic of discussion and start jumping from one topic to another.
But in Jehovah's Witnesses organization it's the same thing the only difference is the intelligence will not release the lying one but in Christianity when we discover that the one we are engaging is lying we will free him or her to go and practice whatever he wants to believe it's the lying one that will start to feel guilty holding to straws! smiley

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Re: JW 008 by johnw47: 8:39am On Jul 04, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
In the intelligence we were trained not to say to anyone:
"you lied" or "you are lying"
It's when the discussion gets really tough that a liar will no longer be comfortable with the topic of discussion and start jumping from one topic to another.
But in Jehovah's Witnesses organization it's the same thing the only difference is the intelligence will not release the lying one but in Christianity when we discover that the one we are engaging is lying we will free him or her to go and practice whatever he wants to believe it's the lying one that will start to feel guilty holding to straws! smiley

lost false jw mad max

that's what you do often when you cannot reply to truth, you jump to other topics:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

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Re: JW 008 by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:46am On Jul 04, 2024
johnw47:


lost false jw mad max

that's what you do often when you cannot reply to truth, you jump to other topics:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

Can you maintain a topic in discussion? cheesy

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Re: JW 008 by johnw47: 9:57am On Jul 04, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Can you maintain a topic in discussion? cheesy

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool



lost false jw mad max

i can and without running away to lies as you often do
you forever making false accusation like the devil, and
when challenged you run away, don't you oh fearful one:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

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Re: JW 008 by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:00am On Jul 04, 2024
johnw47:

i can and without running away

Ok pick a topic and please no insults let's see how far both of us can go with a topic you will choose! smiley

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Re: JW 008 by johnw47: 10:07am On Jul 04, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Ok pick a topic and please no insults let's see how far both of us can go with a topic you will choose! smiley

lost false jw mad max

for the umpteenth time

i'm not interested in starting a topic for chatting with you satan's mob
i put you in your place in the topics that you pick and i will continue to do so, oh dum one

you are full of lies in your own topics that you pick and often run away when i ask you to prove something
don't you:
rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

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Re: JW 008 by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:59am On Jul 04, 2024
johnw47:

i'm not interested.
So now who is RUNNING? cheesy

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Re: JW 008 by johnw47: 11:06am On Jul 04, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
So now who is RUNNING? cheesy

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost false jw mad max

not me but you cannot help but lie:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

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Re: JW 008 by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:09am On Jul 04, 2024
johnw47:

ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool
lost false jw mad max
not me but you cannot help but lie:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

You're just an idiot because normally it's you who wants to challenge me in a discussion so you can't be the judge at the same time! smiley

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Re: JW 008 by johnw47: 11:19am On Jul 04, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
You're just an idiot because normally it's you who wants to challenge me in a discussion so you can't be the judge at the same time! smiley

lost false jw mad max

i want to show you to be a liar and a blasphemer and fearfully paranoid etc. etc. etc.
and you give me so many opportunities, don't you oh big dope and dum one

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Re: JW 008 by FxMasterz: 11:27am On Jul 04, 2024
MaxInDHouse:

When the Catholic Church was persecuting their own members as in killing them what was the reason the Catholic Church gave back then?
I know you won't like to answer so i will do it myself.
It was on the ground of saying things contrary to what the church agreed upon in the Bible so if you're here calling a group Satanic for holding onto a teaching different from yours who are you representing, dark ages Catholics or true Christians?
Remember true Christians don't go about arguing with people who aren't worshiping with them once your teaching differs from that of the true Christians they will AVOID you! 2John 10-11 wink
My dear, all these to what purpose?

No one is accusing you of contradicting church doctrine. You are contradicting scriptures. You know it. Stop being deceptive!


For example, the scriptures says "We shall not all sleep but we shall all be changed." You are saying "We shall all sleep and be changed." That's satanic. No argument about that.


No CULT has the same line of thought because a CULT only works for the interest of their members apart from that they don't think of engaging the public in discussions all they rely upon is the way their members stands to gain in all the goodies in the world.
True Christians work towards a better world in which peace will reign that's the reason why they have the same line of thought!

Do you see the difference? wink

All cults have the same line of thoughts. True Christians are not measured using this as a yardstick.

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Re: JW 008 by johnw47: 12:56pm On Jul 04, 2024
An absolutely critical date for the Jehovah’s Witnesses is A.D. 1914.

The fact is that they can not change their date of 1914 because they have so much invested in it. They are forced to retain their 607 B.C. date even though it is in obvious error. To admit they were wrong is to undermine the whole credibility and truth of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. This they cannot do because they are more dedicated to their organization than they are to the truth.

https://carm dot org/homosexuality-secular-movements/a-d-1914-607-b-c-586-b-c-and-the-jehovahs-witnesses/

^^ replace dot with . no spaces

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Re: JW 008 by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:29pm On Jul 04, 2024
FxMasterz:

My dear, all these to what purpose?
No one is accusing you of contradicting church doctrine. You are contradicting scriptures. You know it. Stop being deceptive!
For example, the scriptures says "We shall not all sleep but we shall all be changed." You are saying "We shall all sleep and be changed." That's satanic. No argument about that.
Ọmọ Paul was talking about the BORN AGAIN Christians who are sleeping in death and mind you not all Christians are BORN AGAIN so i'm not part of them. But all BORN AGAIN Christians must die first before they can drop the physical bodies the difference here is that only those who died before the trumpet sound will sleep as dead people before their resurrection those who are alive by the time the trumpet sound and afterwards will no longer sleep in death. That's what Paul is saying.

FxMasterz:

All cults have the same line of thoughts. True Christians are not measured using this as a yardstick.
You likened God's organization to cult because you think cults do have the same line of thought but you're wrong. Jesus said you people will accuse us of being cultist! Matthew 10:24-25
Cults don't have the same line of thought rather they only target all the goodies of the world for their members. wink
Re: JW 008 by achorladey: 6:30pm On Jul 04, 2024
johnw47:


lost false jw mad max

that's what you do often when you cannot reply to truth, you jump to other topics:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.


How many times will he project his lies and manipulations on others by jumping here and there running from pillar to postgrin grin grin

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Re: JW 008 by achorladey: 6:32pm On Jul 04, 2024
FxMasterz:

My dear, all these to what purpose?

No one is accusing you of contradicting church doctrine. You are contradicting scriptures. You know it. Stop being deceptive!


For example, the scriptures says "We shall not all sleep but we shall all be changed." You are saying "We shall all sleep and be changed." That's satanic. No argument about that.




All cults have the same line of thoughts. True Christians are not measured using this as a yardstick.


Have you ever asked him that being divided has its own benefits as well? cheesy grin grin grin

He will start running helter skelter to avoid it

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Re: JW 008 by achorladey: 7:17pm On Jul 04, 2024
MaxInDHouse:


You don't have to be biased on this try to calm down and think why Jesus said:

“Do not think I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I came, not to destroy, but to fulfill" Matthew 5:17

There are things the Jews believe that Jesus is against.

For instance all the prophets support fighting and killing their enemies {Deuteronomy 7:16; 1Samuel 15:3} but Jesus said they should love and pray for their own enemies! Luke 6:27-28

Adulterers should be stoned to death {Deuteronomy 22:23-24} but Jesus said only the sinless should stone sinners.

Israelites should get married and bear children but Jesus said whoever chooses to remain single should be allowed! Matthew 19:12

The prophets including John the baptist taught the Jews weekly ritual fasting but Jesus' disciples don't practice such!

God's word forbids eating blood {Genesis 9:4; Leviticus 17:14} but Jesus told his own disciples that they must drink his blood! John 6:

So don't try to argue what is plain you can only start defending what Jesus said and did but as for Jews who don't believe in him to them he was CONTRADICTING THE PROPHETS AND THE LAW!


This one should be not be allowed to roam free here as it is filled with lies and manipulations of the scripture. What a load of lies and manipulations on the personality of Jesus Christ and even the scriptures from a person who calls himself an elder in the midst of people grin grin grin grin

You don't have to be biased on this try to calm down and think why Jesus said:

Jesus rendered that your lies and manipulations useless with the below....

so you cancel the word of God in order to hand down your own tradition. And this is only one example among many others

What a shame grin grin grin

There are things the Jews believe that Jesus is against.

Based on the lies and manipulations in your brains.

For instance all the prophets support fighting and killing their enemies {Deuteronomy 7:16; 1Samuel 15:3} but Jesus said they should love and pray for their own enemies! Luke 6:27-28

Against....

You shall not hate your brother in your heart, but you shall reason frankly with your neighbor, lest you incur sin because of him. 18 You shall not take vengeance or bear a grudge against the sons of your own people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself: I am the Lord.

The prophet didn't just support fighting it is God's law regarding engaging surrounding nations of whom some are their enemies. No where did Jesus ever said what those prophets did was against his law.

Adulterers should be stoned to death {Deuteronomy 22:23-24} but Jesus said only the sinless should stone sinners.

Yet King David was not stoned to death based on adultery. Since you don't know the repercussion of Jesus saying marriage comes to an end based on adultery grin grin grin

Israelites should get married and bear children but Jesus said whoever chooses to remain single should be allowed! Matthew 19:12

Load of irrelevance. There are thousands in Israelites who are not married and nowhere was it said every Israelites should get married. There are Nazirites in the Bible. grin grin

The prophets including John the baptist taught the Jews weekly ritual fasting but Jesus' disciples don't practice such!

Where is the evidence of the law regarding Jews weekly ritual fasting in the Bible?

God's word forbids eating blood {Genesis 9:4; Leviticus 17:14} but Jesus told his own disciples that they must drink his blood! John 6:

Jehovah's Witnesses are drinking the blood of Jesus Christ today grin grin grin. See the extent of how this one will even lie and manipulate his own religious beliefs just to advance lies and manipulations about Jesus and the scriptures.

cc: Emusan, Courz, Oteneaaron, FxMasterz

So don't try to argue what is plain you can only start defending what Jesus said and did but as for Jews who don't believe in him to them he was CONTRADICTING THE PROPHETS AND THE LAW!
.
Let that lies and manipulations you are peddling remain in your brains. grin grin grin

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Re: JW 008 by achorladey: 7:18pm On Jul 04, 2024
FxMasterz:


Those are not the things they believed about Jesus. Jesus was saying that only to put His messages in right perspective.

Quote where anybody said He came to destroy the law. Mind you, destroying the law is different from contradicting the law. Show us where anyone said He contradicted the law. Contradiction is what you and your JW organization have been known for.


You see the liar redefining contradicting for you grin

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Re: JW 008 by achorladey: 7:20pm On Jul 04, 2024
MaxInDHouse:


Use of English!

Ọmọ Contradicting or Destroying means the same thing to the Jews remember Jesus didn't carry their scriptures to destroy it rather he was saying things that's CONTRACTING what they all knew before him.

In the lies and manipulations filled brains of yours grin

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Re: JW 008 by achorladey: 7:20pm On Jul 04, 2024
FxMasterz:


Bring a dictionary that says that.

Bring quotes from scriptures where Jesus was accused of destroying and contradicting.

Except he manufactures one from his lying and manipulating brains

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Re: JW 008 by achorladey: 7:21pm On Jul 04, 2024
FxMasterz:


You didn't give me anything. You only quoted a scripture by Jesus Himself where He put His messages in right perspective before a presentation.

No one accused Jesus of contradicting or destroying scriptures. Jesus came to fulfil the scriptures. The JWs contradict scriptures from Old Testament to New Testament to establish a satanic gospel.


Just keep am for future reference. He will soon deny ever saying so grin grin grin

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Re: JW 008 by achorladey: 7:24pm On Jul 04, 2024
FxMasterz:

They criticized Him because they thought He wasn't the Son of God as He claimed.

You're yet to give me any scripture where they claimed He contradicted or destroyed scriptures.



We don't feel you do it. Rather we see you doing it by contradicting scriptures, making false prophecies about Christ's second coming and claiming some men you call GBs have authority to say things that could be held as truth against the Word of God.

He wants to compare his GODS of men housed in USA with Jesus at all cost only eventually getting them to be in equal footing with the Pharisees and Jewish religious leaders. Just read your conversation with him up to this point. You will see how clear it really is his him proving that his religious leaders ended up as Pharisees grin grin

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Re: JW 008 by achorladey: 7:25pm On Jul 04, 2024
Emusan:


The same Jesus that was given scripture to read in the synagogue.

If the Jews believe that Jesus do contradict the scriptures, would they have given Him scripture to read in the first place?

Well, keep giving him the Bible study, the reason he keeps coming back to discuss here despite all his claims is because he always grab one or two things from those he always accuses as enemies of God.


Imagine him saying Jesus was contradicting the law and redefining the meaning of contradict grin grin grin

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Re: JW 008 by achorladey: 7:33pm On Jul 04, 2024
MaxInDHouse:

Contradiction!



Please who are the so called WE?
And how are they performing better than JWs?
smiley

Jumping from contradict to criticize just to peddle lies and manipulations grin grin


Membership in terms of numbers Jehovah’s witnesses don't come close grin grin grin grin

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Re: JW 008 by achorladey: 7:34pm On Jul 04, 2024
MaxInDHouse:


They handed over the scriptures to him in his home town Nazareth where he grew up {Luke 4:16} after hearing about the miraculous works he did in other places but when he began applying the scriptures to himself they wanted to kill him. Luke 4:28-30

Is that not a contradiction? smiley

Something that you apply to promote your lies and manipulations filled brains cannot be contradicting yourself

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Re: JW 008 by achorladey: 7:35pm On Jul 04, 2024
FxMasterz:


Why did you cut off what I said the criticized Him about? Now, show proof of contradiction going by what I told you they criticized Him about - for calling Himself the Son of God and the Messiah. You want to manipulate.y words the way you do the scriptures?





Who were you referring to when you said 'That's what you feel."?

Military intelligence officer lacks intelligence following conversion

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Re: JW 008 by achorladey: 7:37pm On Jul 04, 2024
Emusan:


Finally crawled out of his chicken hole cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

That's not a contradiction!

Reason why you can't provide the dictionary meaning of CONTRADICTION!

Anyways, it's not today you started giving your personal meaning to a word even when to construct simple sentence is hard for you sometimes cheesy grin cheesy grin

He has to crawl out when the lies and manipulations packed into his brains are dug out and exposed. Contradicting = destroy (MaxInDHouse., 2024) grin grin grin

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Re: JW 008 by achorladey: 7:38pm On Jul 04, 2024
FxMasterz:

They criticized Him for claiming to be the Son of God and the Messiah. Did the scriptures describe how the Messiah would like like?

Your organization is blatantly contradicting scriptures and you're here spewing all these balderdash to justify that action?



We're not a group. We're simply Christians. And what is JW doing better? Contradicting scriptures and claiming to be the only voice of God on earth while at it?


Loool!

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Re: JW 008 by achorladey: 7:39pm On Jul 04, 2024
MaxInDHouse:


The Jews know more about the scriptures than you if you stand before any of them quoting their books to justify the actions of Jesus of Nazareth they will just be laughing at you because they don't view him as a sane person! Mark 3:21; John 10:20

So the story is just repeating itself with the JWs having their unique teachings that's making all of you angry yet there's no two religions among you all having the same line of thought!




You don't know the meaning of that word "WE" because if you do you should think of how different religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines can claim another religion with their own teachings is contradicting their teachings whereas all of them are contradicting one another! cheesy


Empty boasting resumes after lies and manipulations given no headway grin grin

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Re: JW 008 by achorladey: 7:40pm On Jul 04, 2024
FxMasterz:


Satanic teachings that contradict scriptures are unique to you?


No one said He contradicted scriptures. Are you not ashamed of yourself to be defending contradiction by saying Jesus was accused of the sane? You couldn't bring any proof that Jesus was accused of such for God's sake and you still kept pushing this false narrative.



My dear, we are Christians. We're not religionists!


You don hang am already. What next is to divert grin grin

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Re: JW 008 by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:46pm On Jul 04, 2024
achorladey:

How many times will he project his lies and manipulations on others by jumping here and there running from pillar to postgrin grin grin
achorladey:

This one should be not be allowed to roam free here as it is filled with lies and manipulations of the scripture. What a load of lies and manipulations on the personality of Jesus Christ and even the scriptures from a person who calls himself an elder in the midst of people grin grin grin grin
Jesus rendered that your lies and manipulations useless with the below....
so you cancel the word of God in order to hand down your own tradition. And this is only one example among many others
What a shame grin grin grin
Based on the lies and manipulations in your brains.
Against....
You shall not hate your brother in your heart, but you shall reason frankly with your neighbor, lest you incur sin because of him. 18 You shall not take vengeance or bear a grudge against the sons of your own people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself: I am the Lord.
The prophet didn't just support fighting it is God's law regarding engaging surrounding nations of whom some are their enemies. No where did Jesus ever said what those prophets did was against his law.
Yet King David was not stoned to death based on adultery. Since you don't know the repercussion of Jesus saying marriage comes to an end based on adultery grin grin grin
Load of irrelevance. There are thousands in Israelites who are not married and nowhere was it said every Israelites should get married. There are Nazirites in the Bible. grin grin
Where is the evidence of the law regarding Jews weekly ritual fasting in the Bible?
Jehovah's Witnesses are drinking the blood of Jesus Christ today grin grin grin. See the extent of how this one will even lie and manipulate his own religious beliefs just to advance lies and manipulations about Jesus and the scriptures.
cc: Emusan, Courz, Oteneaaron, FxMasterz
Let that lies and manipulations you are peddling remain in your brains. grin grin grin
achorladey:

You see the liar redefining contradicting for you grin
achorladey:

In the lies and manipulations filled brains of yours grin
achorladey:

Except he manufactures one from his lying and manipulating brains
achorladey:

Just keep am for future reference. He will soon deny ever saying so grin grin grin
achorladey:

He wants to compare his GODS of men housed in USA with Jesus at all cost only eventually getting them to be in equal footing with the Pharisees and Jewish religious leaders. Just read your conversation with him up to this point. You will see how clear it really is his him proving that his religious leaders ended up as Pharisees grin grin
achorladey:

Imagine him saying Jesus was contradicting the law and redefining the meaning of contradict grin grin grin
achorladey:

Jumping from contradict to criticize just to peddle lies and manipulations grin grin
Membership in terms of numbers Jehovah’s witnesses don't come close grin grin grin grin
achorladey:

Something that you apply to promote your lies and manipulations filled brains cannot be contradicting yourself
achorladey:

Military intelligence officer lacks intelligence following conversion

CJStarz:

Na you wey just convert from Islam be d correct Witness.
Achorlady just dey yarn off point
Re: JW 008 by achorladey: 7:48pm On Jul 04, 2024
MaxInDHouse:

















Lies and manipulations packed into your brains exposed as part of your maximum stupidity lying with no modicum of self respect grin grin grin grin

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