MaxInDHouse:
the group doing God's will in the last days

wumiwumi100:


The guy is too mumu, He just dey argue without addressing any point we have raised.

johnw47:


lost false jw mad max

truly; lying, blaspheming, being puffed up, paranoid, etc. etc.
is not doing God's will,and you are just one of many groups
claiming to be God's people:

2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them

johnw47:
lost false jw mad max has started this thread to show that Jesus began ruling in 1914,
16 pages so far and he still hasn't done so.

so called Jehovah's witnesses have previously said:

The Last Days began 1799 (The Harp of God, 1928 ed., p. 235–36, 239).

Jesus started being present with His people in 1874, and He started ruling in heaven in 1878 (ibid., p. 236, 239–40).

The times of the Gentiles would end in 1914, resulting in the end of Armageddon, the fall of false religion, the end of all earthly governments, the heavenly and earthly resurrections, and paradise on earth (Watchtower, July 15, 1894, p. 226).



and God's word tells us that no man knows the day or the hour when Christ Jesus will return
but false jw's know, just like they know that Jesus is a deceiver, and just like they know that
Jehovah doesn't know everything, and just as they know that Jehovah isn't Almighty

as far as Jesus second coming goes, there is no two second comings where His 1st second coming is invisibly and
where His 2nd second coming and all eyes see him, that's just some more of false jw's never ending confused false teachings

johnw47:


a church name is everything all he has is made up gibberish

MaxInDHouse:
which group is performing better than Jehovah's Witnesses?

johnw47:

any group that are not habitual liars,

MaxInDHouse:
Spiritual deafness!
All the religions claiming they're Christians while contradicting themselves in teachings and doctrines supposed to be LIARS!
If they can't all speak and do things in harmony then they're all LIARS.
So you asserting that Jehovah's Witnesses are the only liars for having different teachings yet no church is fully in harmony with another then something is wrong with you upstairs!

MaxInDHouse:


Spiritual deafness!

All the religions claiming they're Christians while contradicting themselves in teachings and doctrines supposed to be LIARS!

If they can't all speak and do things in harmony then they're all LIARS.

So you asserting that Jehovah's Witnesses are the only liars for having different teachings yet no church is fully in harmony with another then something is wrong with you upstairs!

something is wrong with you upstairs

johnw47:

from carm dot org

Did Jesus become king in 1914?

Jehovah’s Witnesses teach that Jesus was not reigning as king in heaven until October of 1914. They profess that “At that time, “the appointed times of the nations” ended, and Jesus Christ was installed as God’s heavenly King.” (“What does the Bible Really Teach?”, pg 217 Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, 2005) While the manner at which they arrive at the 1914 dates is demonstrably erroneous and has produced a continuous chain of false prophecies, there is still another matter to be critiqued in this teaching. Jesus did not wait until the 20th century to become king. The Bible is clear that Jesus was already appointed king at His first coming and has been reigning in heaven since His ascension. The apostles carried out their missionary work precisely on the basis that Jesus was already king. When Jesus issued the great commission, He told them:

“And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, ‘All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age,'” (Matthew 28:18-20).

Notice that Jesus does not simply tell them to go. He tells them that He has been given all authority both in heaven and on earth, and therefore they are to go. Their whole ministry of making disciples of all nations was rooted directly in the fact that Jesus presently already ruled with all authority in heaven and on earth. Paul likewise writes of His gospel ministry that “we are ambassadors for Christ,” (2 Corinthians 5:20). Ambassadors are sent by kings. The apostles preached with authority because they were commissioned and sent by Christ who possessed all authority. The Apostles went because their king sent them.

to continue

achorladey:



The bold is part of the lies and manipulations in your brains .

something is wrong with you upstairs

Na Tuesday morning we dey. Don't rush into default mode in a hurry

When you need to trouble what is wrong with upstairs start with you saying.....


Those who bear the name Christian does not belong to Christ. Allow them claim Christian it does not change your statement that they don't belong to Christ but your brains has problems with them claiming Christians because in your heart of heart who belongs to Christ is beyond your jurisdiction to decide or determine

johnw47:

group that is not habitual liars, not blasphemers, not puffed up, not paranoid

achorladey:



That ambassadors says it all Jesus disciples didn't become ambassadors in 1914

johnw47:

*mad max


*something is wrong with you upstairs.

johnw47:


confusion is one of the traits false jw's are known for

MaxInDHouse:
Mention a church you know that is not having all of these and let's examine together if you're not a liar yourself!

MaxInDHouse:


Do you have your own PERSONAL reason for calling your neighbor mad due to his choice in faith?
Are you offended when someone told you that something is wrong with you upstairs due to your choice too?

MaxInDHouse:


Mention a church you know that is not having all of these and let's examine together if you're not a liar yourself!

MaxInDHouse:
Most people often get confused regarding the role of the apostles in the first century.

Since these men are imperfect humans like all others why do we need to be submissive to them? Hebrews 13:7, 17

And how can we be submissive without being gullible? Act 17:11

In the first century Jesus had many disciples due to his preaching and teaching in the ministry but out of this group he selected twelve men to serve as Apostles {Luke 6:13} this twelve proved to be loyal to a fault as they were with the rest when Jesus uttered what seems like heresy in the hears of all his disciples! John 6:63-69

After they've passed all the test Jesus prayed for them {John 17:8-9} in his prayer he mentioned the case of Judah Iscariot {John 17:12} who loves riches but kept following Jesus! John 12:4-6

So how can we be submissive to this little group without been gullible?

First thing we should have in mind is their part or role Jesus gave them as assignment. They are to oversee the preaching, teaching and all arrangement having to do with the Kingdom work.

Second thing we should have in mind is that they are imperfect humans just like all others in the world so they're not infallible in any way.

But then how do we RECOGNIZE them in the world that's full of religious leaders of all kinds having followers here and there?

Jesus said by their FRUITS we will differentiate each religious leader and what they stand for {Matthew 7:15-20} this means there is a fruit expected of those following Jesus so if a religion failed to produce this particular fruit then the leaders of such religion are false.

MaxInDHouse:
With that we will RECOGNIZE the group God is using as His representatives and work with them in doing God's will just as the inhabitants of Beroea did in the first century {Act 17:11} after meeting the apostles and seeing them perform mighty supernatural signs they still study what the scriptures said about Jews who will be God's representatives during the endtime! Zechariah 8:23

But how can we avoid being gullible?

There has never been a time in the history of God's people that a prophet of God is perfect in everything he does so we should expect flaws common in all imperfect humans. The only thing we should keep in mind is how they are fulfilling the assignment given to them as written in the scriptures.
So at times a member of the flock can notice the flaws in the way a member of the apostles handled some matters {Galatians 2:11-14} but does that mean they're no longer representing God?
NO!
As long as they're meeting up with their assignment we must cooperate with them in doing the work given to them human flaws shouldn't stop use from working with them.

An example of this is the case of John the baptist. This man was the last Israelite prophet foretold to prepare the way for the Christ and John fulfilled that role but after his arrest and detention for many days John who baptized Jesus, heard God's voice in connection with Jesus' baptism and preached to others that Jesus is the Christ began having doubts about Jesus!

John had to send his own disciples to go and ask Jesus if he truly is the Christ or they should be expecting someone else! Matthew 11:2-3

Hmmmmmmmmmm, what will Jesus a perfect human did after hearing the words from John's disciples?
Did Jesus scold John for such unwarranted doubt?

NO!
Jesus knew that John was imperfect and that he must have had a misconception about him so Jesus sent back John's disciples to go and tell him what he is doing! Matthew 11:5

What is the essence of Jesus' response?
What has Jesus' performance of miracles and good news regarding God's Kingdom got to do with rescuing John from detention?

Well Jesus' response simply means "i'm doing exactly what the scriptures foretold regarding the Christ's presence in Israel"

So despite the fact that Jesus was perfect and without flaws John could sense that this young man is truly the Christ as he is fulfilling what the scriptures foretold regarding the Christ!

Well John the baptist ended his life in detention because it was from there that the order came from the king to behead John in prison! Matthew 14:3-10

What did Jesus have to say about this faithful servant of God despite his doubt?

Well Jesus declared to everyone listening that day that there has never risen a prophet in Israel that's greater than John the baptist! Matthew 11:11

So to RECOGNIZE God's representatives in our time all we need to focus on is the fulfillment of God's promises as foretold about our time not perfection on the part of God's servants or setting goals that's not recorded in the scriptures for them.

John the baptist believe that Jesus is the Christ so he expected Jesus to come and deliver him from prison after all he has been hearing of all the mighty works this young man is performing throughout the land so releasing him from prison shouldn't be difficult for such a powerful prophet. Yet when he heard what Jesus said through his own disciples he agreed that Jesus is doing what the scriptures foretold and he is not in the position to set goals for the Christ!

MaxInDHouse:
Do you have your own PERSONAL reason for calling your neighbor mad due to his choice in faith?
Are you offended when someone tells you that something is wrong with you upstairs due to your choice too?

johnw47:


Ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool

lost false jw mad max

oh duh most dum one, i'm not talking about other churches
i'm talking about you lost false jw's

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints

johnw47:

a group that is not habitual liars, not blasphemers, not puffed up, not paranoid, etc. etc.
is a better performing group

MaxInDHouse:

Mention a group of worshipers you know that is not having all of these and let's examine together if you're not a liar yourself!

achorladey:


Now you start asking questions about your something is wrong with you upstairs .


No one asked you what is wrong with you upstairs in the first place. Deal with the consequences of your actions and words. Calling people mad na your area of specialization when it comes back to you, you hide under being the true disciples of Jesus Christ

MaxInDHouse:


So you can't mention just one shey?

Continue deceiving yourself!

johnw47:


see how the deceiver changed my post to make out i said to him; "there must be something wrong with you upstairs"

MaxInDHouse:
So you can't mention just one shey?
Continue deceiving yourself!

MaxInDHouse:




John the HYPOCRITE!

Here you have it oya present just one group or church that's not habitual liars, not blasphemers, not puffed up, not paranoid.

I'm not talking about other churches I'm talking about you lost false jw's

MaxInDHouse:

johnw47:

lost false jw mad max
continue being the liar:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.