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Re: Should Church Music Instrumentalists Be Paid For Their Duties? by decomposer(m): 4:57pm On Jan 28 |
Choirmaster go crack brain to compose a fresh song for harvest and other programs in church. Instrumentalist will look for a creative beat to add to make it presentable with sleepless night rehearsal. If they get paid they will be encourage to do better and beside churches are making huge money weekly. Some church do service from like 4 times a week. |
Re: Should Church Music Instrumentalists Be Paid For Their Duties? by Mozegee: 5:01pm On Jan 28 |
Read Nehemiah 13:10-12 |
Re: Should Church Music Instrumentalists Be Paid For Their Duties? by Jeezuzpick(m): 5:06pm On Jan 28 |
Originalsly: Hmmmmm......music is a profession o. All these people whose music you listen to as a Christian....they get paid and they pay their instrumentalists o. Inasmuch as music isn't a crime, it can be practised as a profession in Church, just like driving, secirity or secretarial services. All I know is, getting paid as a Church musician is not a sin, and Churches who pay their musicians are not doing a wrong thing. When I was a paid instrumentalist, the Pastor wanted to increase my salary to match those of the other pros who joined after me. I refused the increase. Just to let you know I'm not all about commercialising God-given talent. The above being said, if a Church treats it's musicians as Professionals, they will get professional delivery, no more, no less. I remember marveling at our praise sessions, sounding like studio work. Since I've left playing with pros, I've never had such a level of music. 1 Like |
Re: Should Church Music Instrumentalists Be Paid For Their Duties? by mywells: 5:10pm On Jan 28 |
It's a service you render willing to the church,any instrumentalists you see at deeper life has a profession or they are doing, those ones are not doing it for money,and it's very wrong to play instruments in the church for money. |
Re: Should Church Music Instrumentalists Be Paid For Their Duties? by blessedblavk: 5:23pm On Jan 28 |
reallifegospel: If the church is employing the instrumentalists then they should be paid. But in a situation where a lots of person are available with such skills and craft serving in the praise team then I don't see why the issue of payment should be mentioned. If they are to be selected from the church environment to another environment for officiate then honorarium and the daily welfare should be provided. |
Re: Should Church Music Instrumentalists Be Paid For Their Duties? by ejieddy: 5:25pm On Jan 28 |
I played drums today for my church, I play the keyboard too if the keyboardist isn't available. I can't even imagine asking for money. Rather I give the little I can give monetarily to support the ministry. The former drummer we had kept demanding for money. He later left the church. I hope he's very rich now from all the money he has made. |
Re: Should Church Music Instrumentalists Be Paid For Their Duties? by Amudeneogu: 5:38pm On Jan 28 |
It depends on the agreement, if the instrumtalist were trained by the church then let them play the music to the church without charge but if they train thenselves they may charge the church, but on my opinon,they should know that it is for the worship of God almighty. |
Re: Should Church Music Instrumentalists Be Paid For Their Duties? by omonla10(m): 6:17pm On Jan 28 |
ejieddy: Oga, I've been playing free for the past 12years now.. But it doesn't mean I support churches not to pay instrumentalist.. In as much as the church pays the bricklayers, plumbers, painters, pastors.. How does the instrumentalist differ from these set of people
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Re: Should Church Music Instrumentalists Be Paid For Their Duties? by fitinwell: 7:11pm On Jan 28 |
Bible recall that there are rewards for Skilled Workers... So what's there to discuss About? Then what should the use of Congregational tithe and offering... ? |
Re: Should Church Music Instrumentalists Be Paid For Their Duties? by Dicado: 7:24pm On Jan 28 |
It's either you posted out of ignorance or bias mindset. Pastors are paid for their services via tithes. David was the initiator of paying men who service God. He separated the Levites from other houses and gave them a special duty to serve God on behalf of others. The Levites were the priests, musicians and carriers of the ark. The entire Israel's tithes were channelled to take care of the Levites since they were excluded from farming and other secular job duties. Today, pastors who have selfish visions for themselves would turn this upside down. In fact, they'll tell you that the Levites are the pastors only. Lol! The Levites were not pastors, they were the religious priests and musicians of Israel. Most of these pastors don't want to spend on that sector in their church. If paid instrumentalists were to be poor for receiving salary from church, then why aren't the paid instrumentalists of Christ Embassy poor? Pastor Chris Oyakilome has empowered most of the richest gospel musicians we have in Nigeria. How many has the pastors who don't recognise that talented section of youths in their church raised to international gospel musician standards? Secondly, if someone has decided to do a voluntary service as in the case of many instrumentalists, well, that's good for them but never you tie God's blessings to it. In fact, God has blessed you with your knowledge of music so that you will earn a living from it just exactly the same way that pastors are paid. Let me just close this matter here with this, any person who is against payment for musicians in the church are a reflection of their total ignorance and narcissism. [ ![]() The controversy rages on about if or not, a music instrumentalist who plays for a Church (big or small) should be paid or not? Church Instrumentalists are individuals who play music instruments during the worship services. Such music instruments includes the piano, drums, guitars, trumpet, violin, etc, etc Most Folks believe that if a Church is big and successful, they should try to financially support their instrumentalists. In some cases, the instrumentalists themselves demand that they should be compensated financially or paid salaries for their duties. Some instrumentalists claim that it takes a lot of sacrifices to be present and render their services to a church, especially if it's a mega church. Some instrumentalists down tools when the church over extended periods of time do not compensate them financially. So the big question is, Should a music instrumentalist be paid for the services he/she renders to the Church? I'll answer both with my personal experience and with what was said recently by Pastor David Ibiyieome (The Bishop of Salvation Ministries Worldwide). I was a drummer and keyboard player during my younger days. I played the music instruments for the church I was in at that time, I was always on time for church services and choir practice. I didn't do it like I was doing the Church a favour, I did it diligently with love and joy, and honestly back then, I indeed saw God move in great and mighty ways in my life. I didn't tax or bill the Churches I was in back then to play the music instruments for them, I didn't act high handed act as if I was doing the Church a favour by playing the music instruments, I just showed up on time during choir practice days, and during church services and I served with joy and gladness. Occasionally, I'd get a few financial gifts here and there from some individuals, but I never had it in mind that I was collecting a salary or wage of some sort for my work and God is still blessing me till today for those services I rendered back then with joy and gladness. Recently Pastor David Ibiyieome (the lead Pastor of Salvation Ministries Worldwide) made a statement that is worthy of note to all instrumentalists who insist that they must be paid for their services. Pastor David's statement is what I'll call the hard truth style of saying what I just stated or gave example about above. I won't tell you that insisting you must be paid for playing music instruments for a Church will condemn you to a lifetime of penury without remedy, but I will tell you that if you play music instruments for a Church without insisting that you must be paid, GOD almighty himself will make sure you're rewarded, and God's rewards are larger, better and more long lasting than you can ever phantom. Render your playing of music instruments as a service to God and do it with joy and gladness. You won't regret it. I repeat, you won't regret it! Remain Blessed! Q&A is a platform that addresses a few controversial issues among Christians and within the Church. All questions answered by Apostle Constance C. Friday Ani. [/quote] |
Re: Should Church Music Instrumentalists Be Paid For Their Duties? by rapheal5(m): 8:21pm On Jan 28 |
Nehemiah 13:10–12 ESV 10 I also found out that dthe portions of the Levites had not been given to them, so that the Levites and the singers, who did the work, had fled each eto his field. 11 fSo I confronted the officials and said, g“Why is the house of God forsaken?” And I gathered them together and set them in their stations. 12 Then all Judah brought hthe tithe of the grain, wine, and oil into the storehouses. |
Re: Should Church Music Instrumentalists Be Paid For Their Duties? by Originalsly: 8:21pm On Jan 28 |
Jeezuzpick: No doubt ... it is a profession ... but does that mean the musician must never play for free? If I'm a cook by profession ... must I be paid to cook for the family? ... and shouldn't church be like a family? But like I said earlier ... it depends on the church ... it can't be exploiting the musicians by having them add to church income while the pastor and his clique be enjoying the fruits of their talent. |
Re: Should Church Music Instrumentalists Be Paid For Their Duties? by Obierika(m): 8:46pm On Jan 28 |
Why not? |
Re: Should Church Music Instrumentalists Be Paid For Their Duties? by rexbuton: 10:06pm On Jan 28 |
soccerlite: What is the business of God? To praise and worship God. Will worshipping God stop without instrumentalists? No. This is an issue because we are in an era of pastorpreneurs who see instrumentalists as factors of production. Whatever service is rendered in church , is into God, and is rewarded by God himself |
Re: Should Church Music Instrumentalists Be Paid For Their Duties? by pekisdgee(m): 6:23am On Jan 29 |
Why won't dey be paid... is church not a business? |
Re: Should Church Music Instrumentalists Be Paid For Their Duties? by Chigozirim19: 9:29am On Jan 29 |
Yes |
Re: Should Church Music Instrumentalists Be Paid For Their Duties? by dayotheone(m): 2:37pm On Jan 30 |
Why not pay all the whole worker in the church. |
Re: Should Church Music Instrumentalists Be Paid For Their Duties? by dayotheone(m): 2:39pm On Jan 30 |
Paying of instrumentalist depends .. Some church recruit there instrumentalist , how will they pay back for there training they got for free |
Re: Should Church Music Instrumentalists Be Paid For Their Duties? by Socratiz: 5:26pm On Jan 30 |
Those who play musical instruments for the church should be paid. It is sad that pastors who criticise them cannot play any instrument. They don't know what it takes to acquire the skill to play any instrument. I spent years learning to play the organ after my secondary school and up till now, I'm still learning. If a church does not want to pay instrumentaliy, let them have their service without any music and see how it would go. Furthermore, many of these young people sacrifice higher education to concentrate on honing their skills. You can't have such people and not pay them. Alternatively, let the pastor make their children to learn the musical instrument and keep them in church to play freely at every service. |
Re: Should Church Music Instrumentalists Be Paid For Their Duties? by ejieddy: 10:43pm On Feb 01 |
omonla10: They didn't ask you. You volunteered. If they invited you as an employment, you were interviewed, and given terms of employment, then they must pay you or instrumentalists. But if you volunteered to serve in a department, like the choristers, the ushers, the sanitation people, the prayer warriors, Ministers, Sunday school teachers, then it's appalling that you will demand or expect money for your volunteer work |
Re: Should Church Music Instrumentalists Be Paid For Their Duties? by omonla10(m): 4:22pm On Feb 02 |
ejieddy:We saying same thing. Obviously u can't demand money when uve been attending long before now. I was talking about those ones that were employed 1 Like |
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