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Deities And Creators by Roycemadeit(m): 10:02am On Jan 28
An Excerpt From One Of My Unpublished Write-Ups
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Many are taught to view the Bible as a guide governing life, but a closer study challenges this notion.

The assertion that the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob created the world lacks foundation, as deities are products of cultures, expressing themselves in culturally rooted languages and names. Additionally, the idea of a person reporting on creation as if he witnessed it with pen and paper raises questions about cultural interpretations of reality and encounters.

A culture's deity inherently defends the culture that created it. Switching allegiance to another culture's deity suggests conquest, manipulation, or indoctrination, as deities shape identity, encompassing everything that defines an individual. Losing one's deity results in a loss of spiritual grounding, historical understanding, and cultural traditions.

The biblical Deity, known as the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, specifically belongs to the Israelites and is named Hashem, as stated in Exodus 6:3 in the Tanakh. Its role was initially confined to the Israelites, yet men altered its name to God, a word derived from a Proto-Germanic term unrelated to Hebrew. The deity's role evolved from being a protector of the Israelites to becoming the deity for all converts, tasked with combating the devil rather than addressing issues of ineffective governance, oppression, or inequality as it is written He did for the Israelites. Prominent figures strategically designated spokespersons to manage the masses, understanding that ascribing decisions to divine commands would ensure compliance and deter potential revolts fueled by aspirations for improvement in their lives...

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Re: Deities And Creators by Expanse2020(m): 10:57am On Jan 28
You guys are now getting it by digging more into Christianity and bible
Re: Deities And Creators by Dtruthspeaker: 11:17am On Jan 28
Roycemadeit:
Many are taught to view the Bible as a guide governing life, but a closer study challenges this notion.

[color=#990BB0]The assertion that the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob created the world lacks foundation, as deities are products of cultures, expressing themselves in culturally rooted languages and names.

See how you are thinking like a car moving with a burst tyre?

Your point is on governing life yet your presentation was on complaining about God relating with Abraham.

Is this clearly not an unreasonable post borne out of hatred for God?
Re: Deities And Creators by Blakjewelry(m): 12:06pm On Jan 28
Dtruthspeaker:


See how you are thinking like a car moving with a burst tyre?

Your point is on governing life yet your presentation was on complaining about God relating with Abraham.

Is this clearly not an unreasonable post borne out of hatred for God?
How can one develop hate for something he or she doesn't believe in it existence, or hate what he doesn't see.

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Re: Deities And Creators by Roycemadeit(m): 12:41pm On Jan 28
Dtruthspeaker:


See how you are thinking like a car moving with a burst tyre?

Your point is on governing life yet your presentation was on complaining about God relating with Abraham.

Is this clearly not an unreasonable post borne out of hatred for God?


You have forgotten the face of your father.

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Re: Deities And Creators by Roycemadeit(m): 6:42pm On Jan 28

The Bible contains contradictions and discrepancies, requiring reliance on the Holy Spirit for interpretation, creating an irony. While a man-made mathematics textbook can be universally understood, the claim that divine inspiration necessitates spiritual interpretation suggests logical difficulties in perceiving it as the work of an Omniscient God. Notably, the Holy Spirit's varying interpretations across different church doctrines highlight challenges in achieving a consistent understanding of the Bible.

The story of Adam and Eve consuming the forbidden fruit, if assumed to be true, raises questions about the necessity of such knowledge if morality is innate. Non-Israelites, unexposed to missionaries, weren't without laws, highlighting a recognition of right and wrong.

Moses' flight to Midian after he killed a man implies that there were moral principles even before the commandments. However, God's commandments exhibit contradictions as we see him eat his words by asking those he gave laws to break them, leading to varying treatments of the same sins or crimes, revealing instances of nepotism, injustice, and wickedness in divine actions

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Re: Deities And Creators by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:48pm On Jan 28
Roycemadeit:

The assertion that the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob created the world lacks foundation,
What did your own people say about creation and the part their Gods played? smiley
Re: Deities And Creators by Roycemadeit(m): 7:03pm On Jan 28
MaxInDHouse:

What did your people say about creation and the part their Gods played? smiley


Creation stories vary among cultures due to the absence of a definitive explanation for the origin of things. Consequently, cultures attribute everything to deities, weaving religious beliefs and mythology into their narratives as a means to interpret their reality.

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Re: Deities And Creators by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:03pm On Jan 28
Expanse2020:

You guys are now getting it by digging more into Christianity and bible

The Bible is the only book inspired by the true God all other books are fabrications from the fallen angels!

When talking about Christianity most of you are like a village man who doesn't identify the dollar but after seeing lots of fake dollars this villager concluded that dollar is worthless yet that's the one and only currency globally recognized.

Christianity has just one true group but lots of false religions all claiming Christians. For instance one hilarious religion is Islam this one can't stand on its own without attaching itself to the Bible yet this religion wants to claim that the Bible is worthless but ask the adherents questions having to do with Islam they can't do without quoting the Bible to authenticate their religion! smiley
Re: Deities And Creators by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:07pm On Jan 28
Roycemadeit:

Creation stories vary among cultures due to the absence of a definitive explanation for the origin of things. Consequently, cultures attribute everything to deities, weaving religious beliefs and mythology into their narratives as a means to interpret their reality.

What is the living proof that what those deities or their worshipers are saying is true?

I am asking because there is 1,001 proof that the God of Abraham is the one and only true God! smiley
Re: Deities And Creators by Roycemadeit(m): 7:23pm On Jan 28
MaxInDHouse:


The Bible is the only book inspired by the true God all other books are fabrications from the fallen angels!

smiley

Across diverse religions, the assertion of exclusivity regarding their respective deities prevails—a belief system often shaped by factors such as cultural conditioning, geographical location, or historical conquests. The adherence to a specific faith, like Christianity, can be attributed to a complex interplay of these influences.

Examining Christianity, criticism arises around its theological concepts. The idea of a God finding pleasure in the smell of burnt animals, seeking appeasement through animal and human sacrifice, and administering generational punishment for ancestral transgressions should spark contemplation. A particularly intricate facet is the notion that this deity is not only aware of but also engages in actions deemed morally objectionable.

This introspection prompts questions about the attributes of a true creator. The juxtaposition of a benevolent creator and the depiction of a deity allowing suffering and even orchestrating conflicts among creations challenges the conventional understanding that the God of Abraham is true. The exploration of these complexities underscores the subjective nature of religious beliefs and the intricate relationship between faith, cultural context, and theological interpretations.

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Re: Deities And Creators by Roycemadeit(m): 7:32pm On Jan 28
MaxInDHouse:


What is the living proof that what those deities or their worshipers are saying is true?

I am asking because there is 1,001 proof that the God of Abraham is the one and only true God! smiley


The God of Abraham (Abraham considered the first Jew) has roots in diverse cultural influences. Abraham hailed from the land of Ur, but it's noteworthy that Ur emerged long after the completion of Egypt's pyramids, in Egypt's 18th dynastic period. This historical context shows that cultural and religious elements associated with Abraham's God could have been influenced by pre-existing beliefs and practices from the regions and periods that predated Ur.
Re: Deities And Creators by descarado: 7:34pm On Jan 28
A deity is as strong as one who worships it makes it to be. The moment no one pays a deity any attention, it will fade into oblivion.

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Re: Deities And Creators by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:35pm On Jan 28
The God of Abraham wasn't discovered by the worshipers unlike all other gods Jehovah introduced Himself to Abraham while the man and his ancestors were worshiping DEMONS! Joshua 24:2

After centuries that Israelites were dominated by Egyptians this God journeyed there with two feeble octogenarians to free His people from the world's most powerful king! Exodus 5:1

This God did not just want worshiper without a purpose He made it clear to them that He wants the whole world to worship Him as the Creator and Israelites to serve as His priests! Exodus 19:5

This God destroyed all the nations on the land He chose for His name to be declared and warned the Israelites that He will do the same to them! Deuteronomy 18:19

All these are stories today!

So what living proof do we have today that the God of Abraham is the one and only true God?

Are you willing to know? smiley
Re: Deities And Creators by Roycemadeit(m): 7:36pm On Jan 28
MaxInDHouse:


I am asking because there is 1,001 proof that the God of Abraham is the one and only true God! smiley


Kindly Give Two Proofs.

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Re: Deities And Creators by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:39pm On Jan 28
Roycemadeit:

Across diverse religions, the assertion of exclusivity regarding their respective deities prevails—a belief system often shaped by factors such as cultural conditioning, geographical location, or historical conquests. The adherence to a specific faith, like Christianity, can be attributed to a complex interplay of these influences.

Examining Christianity, criticism arises around its theological concepts. The idea of a God finding pleasure in the smell of burnt animals, seeking appeasement through animal and human sacrifice, and administering generational punishment for ancestral transgressions should spark contemplation. A particularly intricate facet is the notion that this deity is not only aware of but also engages in actions deemed morally objectionable.

This introspection prompts questions about the attributes of a true creator. The juxtaposition of a benevolent creator and the depiction of a deity allowing suffering and even orchestrating conflicts among creations challenges the conventional understanding that the God of Abraham is true. The exploration of these complexities underscores the subjective nature of religious beliefs and the intricate relationship between faith, cultural context, and theological interpretations.

Why not pick up with questions on how wrong the God of Abraham handled any case at all then present a better or more virtuous way to handle such a case? smiley
Re: Deities And Creators by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:41pm On Jan 28
Roycemadeit:

The God of Abraham (Abraham considered the first Jew) has roots in diverse cultural influences. Abraham hailed from the land of Ur, but it's noteworthy that Ur emerged long after the completion of Egypt's pyramids, in Egypt's 18th dynastic period. This historical context shows that cultural and religious elements associated with Abraham's God could have been influenced by pre-existing beliefs and practices from the regions and periods that predated Ur.

Those telling you these what living evidence do they have apart from their counter stories? smiley
Re: Deities And Creators by Roycemadeit(m): 7:44pm On Jan 28
MaxInDHouse:


Those telling you these what living evidence do they have apart from their counter stories? smiley
There's no evidence to show Abraham ever existed, nor of Noah, Solomon, David. As in none. That's why y'all are Believers

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Re: Deities And Creators by Expanse2020(m): 7:44pm On Jan 28
MaxInDHouse:


The Bible is the only book inspired by the true God all other books are fabrications from the fallen angels!

When talking about Christianity most of you are like a village man who doesn't identify the dollar but after seeing lots of fake dollars this villager concluded that dollar is worthless yet that's the one and only currency globally recognized.

Christianity has just one true group but lots of false religions all claiming Christians. For instance one hilarious religion is Islam this one can't stand on its own without attaching itself to the Bible yet this religion wants to claim that the Bible is worthless but ask the adherents questions having to do with Islam they can't do without quoting the Bible to authenticate their religion! smiley

Bible is book of God written by more than 40 writers 🤣🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The same bible claimed that man cannot tampering with world of God but written and re-written by men

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Re: Deities And Creators by Expanse2020(m): 7:48pm On Jan 28
MaxInDHouse:


The Bible is the only book inspired by the true God all other books are fabrications from the fallen angels!

When talking about Christianity most of you are like a village man who doesn't identify the dollar but after seeing lots of fake dollars this villager concluded that dollar is worthless yet that's the one and only currency globally recognized.

Christianity has just one true group but lots of false religions all claiming Christians. For instance one hilarious religion is Islam this one can't stand on its own without attaching itself to the Bible yet this religion wants to claim that the Bible is worthless but ask the adherents questions having to do with Islam they can't do without quoting the Bible to authenticate their religion! smiley
Ok I just de reason with you now
Which group is authentic among the group, if one to study the true God
Re: Deities And Creators by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:48pm On Jan 28
Roycemadeit:

Kindly Give Two Proofs.

There is no God whose worshiper are going to people's homes in other to cohabit peacefully with their neighbours, that's what any God who is the true Creator supposed to do uniting all His creatures as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers! Isaiah 2:2-4


There is no God on this planet whose stories are known globally through a book that could be found in all the corners of the earth, in fact if someone say bestseller the Bible is far much more. billions of copies has been printed and millions are sold monthly. Is that not what the Creator of this planet should do? Isaiah 11:9
Re: Deities And Creators by Roycemadeit(m): 7:50pm On Jan 28
Expanse2020:


Bible is book of God written by more than 40 writers 🤣🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The same bible claimed that man cannot tampering with world of God but written and re-written by men

The funny thing is that the name of this creator, Hashem, was changed by men. I mean this supernatural being' s name was changed. grin

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Re: Deities And Creators by Roycemadeit(m): 7:51pm On Jan 28
MaxInDHouse:


There is no God whose worshiper are going to people's homes in other to cohabit peacefully with their neighbours, that's what any God who is the true Creator supposed to do uniting all His creatures as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers! Isaiah 2:2-4


There is no God on this planet whose stories are known globally through a book that could be found in all the corners of the earth, in fact if someone say bestseller the Bible is far much more. billions of copies has been printed and millions are sold monthly. Is that not what the Creator of this planet should do? Isaiah 11:9


That is because it's a political tool. And you don't realise it yet?

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Re: Deities And Creators by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:53pm On Jan 28
Roycemadeit:

There's no evidence to show Abraham ever existed, nor of Noah, Solomon, David. As in none. That's why y'all are Believers

Now is the time to know the truth! smiley

Do you believe in the existence of God at all?

Let's start from there! smiley
Re: Deities And Creators by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:57pm On Jan 28
Roycemadeit:

That's is because it's a political tool. And you don't realise it yet?

Of course many do say this but please tell me what are other books been used for if the book supposedly fabricated by a small country like Israel is used to dominate the entire world while nations like Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome and England has writers and intelligent men who hailed from their midst couldn't come up with such a powerful tool? smiley
Re: Deities And Creators by Expanse2020(m): 8:01pm On Jan 28
Roycemadeit:


The funny thing is that the name of this creator, Hashem, was changed by men. I mean this supernatural being' s name was changed. grin

A source said bible is 88 verses another said 80 verses but it had reduced to 66 verses A Mighty God book was removed from by a man because it doesn't suites their taste and some claim they can't verify the source of their stories.

Out of 66 verses they have now the new testament they have some verses are lost too (up to 20 verse from word of God)

That what Quran siad that they had tampered with there own hand..
But they will said it's a lie and they no it's true

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Re: Deities And Creators by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:06pm On Jan 28
Expanse2020:

Ok I just de reason with you now
Which group is authentic among the group, if one to study the true God

Who is the man called CHRIST?

Can you just take a copy of the Bible and try to read only chapters 5-7 where the major preaching of the man's ministry was recorded and fish out which of all the groups claiming Christians is practicing what this man said there?

I was once a Muslim and through a thorough study of those three chapters i figured out the group practicing Christianity for real! smiley
Re: Deities And Creators by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:10pm On Jan 28
Expanse2020:

A source said bible is 88 verses another said 80 verses but it had reduced to 66 verses A Mighty God book was removed from by a man because it doesn't suites their taste and some claim they can't verify the source of their stories.

Out of 66 verses they have now the new testament they have some verses are lost too (up to 20 verse from word of God)

That what Quran siad that they had tampered with there own hand..
But they will said it's a lie and they no it's true

It was written by 40 men all were Israelites.
It contains 66 books.
39 were written in Hebrew and Aramaic.
27 were written in Greek.
In total it has 1189 chapters and 31,200 verses. smiley
Re: Deities And Creators by Expanse2020(m): 8:34pm On Jan 28
MaxInDHouse:


Who is the man called CHRIST?

Can you just take a copy of the Bible and try to read only chapters 5-7 where the major preaching of the man's ministry was recorded and fish out which of all the groups claiming Christians is practicing what this man said there?
I want to hear from him who is preaching Christianity to me and one to convince me
[b] I was once a Muslim [/b]and through a thorough study of those three chapters i figured out the
group practicing Christianity for real! smiley

That is how must of you claimed you are once a Muslim before
but a Muslim who didn't know anything about his religion is not a Muslim
Who can't recite at least some 10 Surat from a single juzu is not a Muslim
That was a Muslim because his parent give him a name of Muslim but not etiquette and teaching of Islam not dim to be called Muslim
Overall ISLAM DIDN'T TAKE YOU AWAY FROM YEHESUA (PBUH) rather it make you know more about Him..

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Re: Deities And Creators by Expanse2020(m): 8:37pm On Jan 28
MaxInDHouse:


It was written by 40 men all were Israelites.
It contains 66 books.
39 were written in Hebrew and Aramaic.
27 were written in Greek.
In total it has 1189 chapters and 31,200 verses. smiley
Original version contain 80 - 88 books some where removed don't cover it...

A word of God was written by man and change to thier suites..,

What did you want to said to the new testament that some verses are also removed now adays

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Re: Deities And Creators by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:44pm On Jan 28
Expanse2020:

That is how must of you claimed you are once a Muslim before
but a Muslim who didn't know anything about his religion is not a Muslim
Who can't recite at least some 10 Surat from a single juzu is not a Muslim
That was a Muslim because his parent give him a name of Muslim but not etiquette and teaching of Islam not dim to be called Muslim
Overall ISLAM DIDN'T TAKE YOU AWAY FROM YEHESUA (PBUH) rather it make you know more about Him..

I love this! smiley

So there are criteria one must meet before he or she could be truly called a Muslim, right?

Now do the same with Christianity and figure out who are true Christians! smiley
Re: Deities And Creators by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:49pm On Jan 28
Expanse2020:

Original version contain 80 - 88 books some where removed don't cover it...
A word of God was written by man and change to thier suites..,
What did you want to said to the new testament that some verses are also removed now adays

God's word could only be identified not by the swords of those adhering to it but how they are able to fulfill the purpose for which God inspired the writers.

So instead of arguing over what imperfect humans have done with their own copies of the Bible why not ask for the purpose of the Author?

If the purpose is met then know that there is no addition or subtraction made for the Author knows exactly why He inspired the writers! smiley

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