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Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ: 9:11am On Feb 08 |
honesttalk21:So you went to look for a ficticious website that translate Abd to servant. It's okay. Islam is known for that |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by honesttalk21: 9:52am On Feb 08 |
TenQ: Google Translate is fictitious? حَدَّثَنَا مُوسَى، قَالَ: حَدَّثَنَا وُهَيْبٌ، قَالَ: حَدَّثَنَا سُهَيْلٌ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ، عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ: لاَ تَبَاغَضُوا، وَلاَ تَنَافَسُوا، وَكُونُوا عِبَادَ اللهِ إِخْوَانًا The best option is you copy the Arabic text from Sunnah.com and do a translation elsewhere don't use the one on Sunnah.com At this point I see our continuing discussions as useless as you are so used to telling lies you are unable to appreciate truth. |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 9:58am On Feb 08 |
TenQ: Why did christian like lies eehn Abraham sleep with his wife slaves Jacob sleep with two slaves of her wives Leah has several children, hoping that Jacob will love her more, Rachel doesn’t have children, Rachel gives Bilhah to Jacob to get children to her name (That’s how people looked at it at that time, the handmaid’s children were credited to the wife), Leah, got into the competition, and gave Zilpah to Jacob as a concubine, and eventually, you had the 12 sons of Jacob, who was also called Israel. So tell me or is it the Solomon or David's you want to talk about or Moses who instructed his men to keep only virgin girls to themselves 1 Like |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ: 10:13am On Feb 08 |
Expanse2020:Mohammed was caught by his wife having sex with her house girl on her own bed! Shameless! Compare with (according to you) Rachel gives Bilhah to Jacob to get children to her name or Leah , got into the competition, and gave Zilpah to Jacob as a concubine, Unlike the one who committed ADULTERY (illegal sex) with his wives slave girl without consent AND was caught by his wife naked having sex with her slave. Of course Allah justifies the despicable act as it was important to get verses inside the Qur'an! Even the all your examples above was before the Law was Given. At that time (see the Yellow highlights) there was no law given by which men can live by. At the time of Mohammed, several prophets have come from God and their is a law called Adultery! Shameless adulterous man calling himself a prophet! 1 Like |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ: 10:45am On Feb 08 |
honesttalk21:The scholars of sunnah.com are ignorant dummies. Qur'anx.com are also dummies Sahih Bukhari Hadith 2925 Volume 4, Book 52, Hadith 176 Narrated `Abdullah bin `Umar: Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews until some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O `Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.'" https://www.iium.edu.my/deed/hadith/ Volume 4, Book 52, Number 176: Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar: Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight wi the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' https://www.islamicity.org/hadith/ Sahih al-Bukhari 2925 (Book 56, Hadith 138) #2798 Narrated `Abdullah bin `Umar: Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar: Allah's Messenger ﷺ said, "You (ie Muslims) will fight with the Jews until some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (ie slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him'." According to you, ALL these Your scholars are all wrong because they don't know Arabic. Unfortunately, when I use Google translate for you, you will complain that it cannot be accurate See your life outside! |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by SIRTee15: 1:10pm On Feb 08 |
Expanse2020: Show any country in Africa that was forced to become Christian. Just one. Why did the north Nigeria remain Muslim after colonisation and slavery by the British. Why did most french colonies in Africa remain Muslim during slavery and after colonialism and slavery- mali, Senegal, guinea. Why didn't the French forced them to become Christian. This guy didn't even read what he brought here olodo The article said people who ended slavery were CHRISTIANS. THE ABOLITION MOVEMENT TO END SLAVERY WAS LED BY CHRISTIANS. read the article, it's there. And I hope u won't shout BBC propaganda since U brought it here. Muslims invaders forced the north African population into islam. First they used the sword, if that didn't work next was the jizah tax on non Muslims, the burden of the tax forced a lot of Christians to become Muslims to avoid paying the tax. In case I don't know, the forceful spread of islam in the north African region led to the 2nd migration of people deep into sub Sahara Africa in the 9th and 10th century AD. That's where people like oduduwa and his entourage to ife, bilikisu sungbo of ijebu ode all came from. They were people who were forced to migrate into forest Africa to avoid the oppression of the islamic caliphate. Learn your history boy. Learn. Don't come to me with some fake history and think it will pass. I will chew and roast u. The problem with U black African Muslim is that U are so enmeshed into islamic culture I don't even acknowledge your own indigenous culture anymore. All native cultures and history b4 Islam was evil and should not be learnt. That's how u think. I'm a proud black African Christian. I know my history and culture b4 Christianity. I know what my ancestors did, what they believed and why they believed in it. I'm not enmeshed in any western propaganda or ideology. I adopted Christianity not westernisation. It's u guys that don't know the difference. |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by AntiChristian: 1:20pm On Feb 08 |
TenQ: Paste Hausa Bible Genesis 1:1-10 here if Allah doesn't appear there 11 times! Ignoramus Liar! |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by AntiChristian: 1:22pm On Feb 08 |
TenQ: Where did i say only Paul wrote the NT? Better clear your eyes with medical Locust beans! Paul wrote more than all the major disciples altogether! |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by SIRTee15: 1:59pm On Feb 08 |
honesttalk21: 😅😅😅😅😅 Why can't my fellow Christian brother help out. He's well verses in the Koranic theology and that's very important in what we discussing here. |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ: 2:13pm On Feb 08 |
AntiChristian:Is the name of your Deity God? Is Allah Hausa or Arabic? |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ: 2:15pm On Feb 08 |
AntiChristian:Did you forget your initial question? Perhaps you drank too much from that which is haram! |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by AntiChristian: 2:17pm On Feb 08 |
TenQ: Allah is the one and only Allah! |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ: 3:14pm On Feb 08 |
AntiChristian:Satan too is one and only satan. Do you know any other Satan? Therefore since you deities name is not in Hausa but Arabic, then Hausa Bible is not a suitable reference. 1 Like |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by AntiChristian: 3:24pm On Feb 08 |
TenQ: Where is Satan one and only Satan? Satan can tempt millions at the same time! How can he be one? Abeg comot my mentions with your ignorance! |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ: 5:17pm On Feb 08 |
AntiChristian:How many Iblis refuse to bow down to Adam even though he's not an angel according to your religion? 10 billion!? 1 Like |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by SIRTee15: 5:26pm On Feb 08 |
honesttalk21: a baby is totally dependent on the mother/adults 100% for survival. without adults in the life of a baby- the chance of survival is zero. does that make a baby slave to the mother or adults. do we call baby slaves? most employee are dependent on monthly/weekly wages for survival. does that make them slaves to the employer? How can u say total dependence is synonymous to slavery. what kain of argument is that!!! abeg this one no follow... |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by AntiChristian: 8:47am On Feb 09 |
TenQ: Ibis is one! Just like Adam is one! We came from Adam as Humans. Iblis has many sons and generations of Jins! How does Satan tempt many at the same time? When Satan went to whine the Biblical God to tempt Job by killing/destroying his Fam/properties, do you think no one in the world is being tempted while Satan is with your God in heaven? |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ: 9:00am On Feb 09 |
AntiChristian:In other words, I am correct with my position that : TenQ: It seems from your Islamic religious knowledge, Satan too is omnipresent exactly like God!? For your correction, There is only one satan and he can be in only one place at a time in the universe. Almost everything attributed directly to him are by his emissaries known as demons or unclean spirits. So, how different is Allah from Satan, for satan is One! Satan too is one and only satan. 1 Like |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by AntiChristian: 9:16am On Feb 09 |
TenQ:Satan has his people everywhere! It seems from your Islamic religious knowledge, Satan too is omnipresent exactly like God!?Na Holy Spirit inspire this to you not me! For your correction, Didn't I say before that Satan has lots of generations like Adam? Allah created Satan from fire! Allah is one without partner, son nor wife! Satan and the world of Jinns do reproduce and multiply! |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by TenQ: 11:24am On Feb 09 |
AntiChristian: You implied the omnipresencenof satan. Or what do you mean when you said : AntiChristian:Does this invalidate the oneness of satan!? AntiChristian:It seems you are not aware that Satan is one without partner, son nor wife! What is the name of the wife of satan? Who married him off to her? What is the name of the first son of satan? Or na three daughters he get!? Who is the partner of satan? What is his name? Meaningless rhetorics that amount to nothing about God the Creator. I guess I should expose your Taoheed when I get little time for you! SMH! 1 Like |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by AntiChristian: 12:29pm On Feb 09 |
TenQ: No! Satan has his sons and agents in many places! He is not present everywhere! I emphasized that! Does this invalidate the oneness of satan!? With his agents that are like him he is not one! They are all Shayaatin (Satans)! [i]It seems you are not aware thatHe has partners! [/i]What is the name of the wife of satan?Just because they are not known doesn't mean they don't exist! Meaningless rhetorics that amount to nothing about God the Creator.You'll keep exposing your ignoramus self! |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 1:03pm On Feb 09 |
SIRTee15:You adopted Christianity not westernization 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 show me where Jesus wore suite and tie they preach or go church Some church that the Jesus founded Tell me what your culture is then tell me the culture of Jesus and explain the westernization where...open mouth here and start the bloof 😱😱 For slavery I don't need to go far Nigeria herself is a case how luggard and the order guy and those other came before him enslave the forefather to England in the name of missionary |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 1:11pm On Feb 09 |
TenQ:Show us where he was cut with a slave in the bed But according to the bible lot slept with her two daughters ...that what they call shame David son sleep with her father's wives that a shame Jacob son sleep with her wife/(slave) that a same All these fiftly act was what a scripture book called bible 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 1:15pm On Feb 09 |
AntiChristian:Don't mind him he will asked stupid questions from you according to bible Satan always exist in plural form 1 Like |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by SIRTee15: 1:16pm On Feb 09 |
Expanse2020: As I said U are a poor student of history. I repeat show me who Lord Lugard took as slave to England. England banned slavery in 1807, Lord Lugard came to Nigeria 100 years yet to took slaves to England where slavery was illegal U are very dumb, I bet your iq is below the average of Nigerian. No offense. What's your point about Jesus wearing shirt and tie. Another dumb comment. So then tell me why Zaki Naik and these imams are wearing suit and shirt in mosque or preaching when neither Jesus nor Muhammad wore shirt or suit. U are just too dumb, asking stu.pid questions. confusing modernization with Christianity. Why are U not travelling on donkey and camel when going to mosque since Muhammed never rode a car instead rode on camel. Ode. |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 1:26pm On Feb 09 |
SIRTee15: |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by SIRTee15: 1:58pm On Feb 09 |
[quote author=Expanse2020 post=128368725][/quote] What is the church? The church is the body of Christ and those who believe in him are members. Don't confuse denomination with church. Orthodox, pentecostal, unitarian, white garment, catholic are all denomination not church. |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by SIRTee15: 4:02pm On Feb 09 |
Expanse2020: As I said U are a poor student of history. I repeat show me who Lord Lugard took as slave to England. England banned slavery in 1807, Lord Lugard came to Nigeria 100 years yet to took slaves to England where slavery was illegal U are very dumb, I bet your iq is below the average of Nigerian. No offense. What's your point about Jesus wearing shirt and tie. Another dumb comment. So then tell me why Zaki Naik and these imams are wearing suit and shirt in mosque or preaching when neither Jesus nor Muhammad wore shirt or suit. U are just too dumb, asking stu.pid questions. confusing modernization with Christianity. Why are U not travelling on donkey and camel when going to mosque since Muhammed never rode a car instead rode on camel. Mumu
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Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by SIRTee15: 4:04pm On Feb 09 |
Expanse2020: Tell me the name of Islam Muhammad created. Shia Ahmdiaya Sufi Sunni Qur'anisy Ibadi Which one of the Islam above was founded by Muhammed? |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 4:37pm On Feb 09 |
SIRTee15: OWhh if the church is the body of the Christ then your pastor didn't need to build a church to hold a Sunday service because it's not in the record of Jesus... He only gather people and preach to them wherevere there is opportunity, he didn't construct a single block call it church.. he didn't use bible preached, he didn't where suite like west and your pastor, no tie🤣🤣🤣 And you claimed it's not westernized... Everyone know that Christianity is the religion of Paul 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 |
Re: When the Qur'an is misinterpretated : Did Jesus Die On The Cross? by Expanse2020(m): 4:43pm On Feb 09 |
SIRTee15:Whenever you see any of these sect we pray behind each other and we go the same Makkah for pilgrim Tell me if redeem can go to celestial to worship Tell me if C A.C can worship in the Jehovah witnesses church Tell me if Winner can worship in the church of Roman Catholic Stop bluffing get Good knowledge into that your 💀 |
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