Skii:

What has African taken from these people?

Oluchi007:

I feel bad for Libya and for African countries as a whole. This style of imitating the West unfortunately does not yield dividends for us. One size does not fit all. Libya were not operating a democracy yet they could afford free education, health care, good infrastructure (Are there any slums in Libya?) yet some of them chose to connive with the West against their leader and kill him.

Let's see now if they'll fare better with democracy, and also if democracy will perform the complex task of unifying a nation with vast tribal differences.

igbo2011:

The vast majorirty of people loved Gaddaffi. The west doesn't care about democracy or dictatorship. That is why they killed Patrice lumumba and installed Mobotu. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2000/aug/10/martinkettle

Mobutu destroyed Congo for 34 years. THis happens around the world with killing/overthrow of good leaders and installing bad leaders. Look up Thomas Sankara, Kwame Nkrumah, Salvadore Allende, Omar Torrino, Mossedegh, Gbagbo of Ivory Coast. This stuff is open nowadays. South American leaders stood up so they are growing now. Look at Brazil and Argentina.

IMF/WOrld Bank/ WTO are all used to enslave countries economically. IMF destroyed many countriees economy. WTO makes all the policies benefit developed countries. Why can America subsidize their farmers and Ethiopia can't? 54% of American farmers would be losing money if it wasn't for the farmer subsidy. You need to understand the strucutres.

CNN, Fox News, BBC are all conrolled by Murdoch. Watch Russia Today or Aljaezeera (not as biased).

Skii:

As in, they don't even hide it again

jp_phillips: beaf Descendant of odechukwu, is cluelessness generational? how can Odechukwu and beaf be clueless at the same time. is it a disease? just thinking aloud.

70% of NATO's funding comes from the USA which amounts to the defense budget of all its member states put together. USA supplies over 80% of NATO air force, 50% of SA missiles and other soft arsenal. personnel USA 60%.

beaf in your "critical thinking" when the No fly zone of Libya became effective, who supplied the Medic choppers and refueling air tankers? Your father I guess

when NATO approved the use of helis was Apaches not the most widely used?
who builds and supplies it to NATO? your Ode master i guess.

Beaf primary school education in Nigerijavascript:void(0);a is free in most states, pls if you cannot attend during the day, try the Night service it will help you.

About the Libyans, my script is playing out, it starts with unemployment then to the ultimate corruption, welcome to the world of true Africans; Femi kuti!!!!!!!!!!!! Awuu

cap28:

its upsetting  bro


this is why africom/NATO's presence in africa needs to be resisted - this is what the french did in ivory coast to young Gbagbo supporters:

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this was never given any coverage by the international media

Beaf:

[size=13pt]Now that the 4 day old skirmishes have stopped can we have a brand new conspiracy theory from our inhouse stone-heads?
Can we have something reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaally exagerated this time, cos the "civil war" story has been a real let down.[/size]

bashy_demy:

What is UN,NATO,EU,BRITAIN and the USA waiting for 8 month of protest and 3500 people have been killed and no sign of help in syria since there is nothing to gain there if they help them. it does not take up to a month before they attack Ghaddaffi since there are lot of cruid oil there to boost there dying economy, i cross my finger ooooo.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2011/11/syrias-assad-urged-to-go-as-isolation-deepens/

justwise:

Why do you want them to go there? If they do many of you will start thread after thread crying your eyes out.

bashy_demy:

^^ hey justfool or wetin be your name the message am trying to pass across is that if there is nothing for them to gain there they want intervene did it take them up to a month to fly into Iraq then? did it take them up to a month fly into Libya? war in  cote'dvoire last for more than 7month there is no sign of NATO or UN God punish America and the western world Ghadaffi is better then most of there leaders

honeric01:

Why would they go there when they know the guy there is their boy?

justwise:

Come on! don't let urself down here, who is ''their guy''? If he was ''their guy'' why then are they against him? Why are they pushing for more sanctions against him and backing Arab league?

Were they not friends with Gaddafi before the conflict and they still support NATO intervention?

honeric01:

Please don't get me started, i am not the ordinary nairalander out there to brandish these your type at, the Syrian president is a CONFIRMED stooge of the west and the role he plays in the middle east is just too "high" and "important" for the west to toy with. after the "sacrifice" of Mubarrak by the west, the next person fit enough to help them carry on the mission is "Assad" abi wetin dem dey call that him yeye name.

His role in the middle east (interest of the west) can't be replaced for now by anyone in the middle east.

buJu-234:

we are the US & western Europe,
all d countries they have entered have ended in a state of battlefield,

they should pass a UN resolution banning the west 4rm interfering in other countries fairsss

justwise:

Actually you are worst than ''ordinary'' nairaland with their useless conspiracy theory.

Done with you cos there is nothing to argue about.

hajifaty:
Where is Obama and others? are they not willing to save the innocents people. Bastards, Obama will surely die of air crash

justwise:

Mumu who told you that there is not oil in Syria and [b]Côte d'Ivoire? [/b]How about Afghanistan? Any oil there?  Before you start disgracing yourself read up about those countries.

bashy_demy:

mumu you are the biggest foool here there is no oil in cote d'ivoire like it is in Libya and about the issue of Afghan its cos of Osama and osama if from Saudi [/b]why can't dey attack his birth country cos they are US ally, [b] how about Zimbabwe that someone has been rulling for twenty something yrs, but because Ghadaffi is rude and has no respect for any of them even banged table during UN and called them names that was why they plan against him and part of most people they use againt him are wanted terrorist

bashy_demy:

mumu you are the biggest foool here there is no oil in cote d'ivoire like it is in Libya and about the issue of Afghan its cos of Osama and osama if from Saudi why can't dey attack his birth country cos they are US ally,  how about Zimbabwe that someone has been rulling for twenty something yrs,  but because Ghadaffi is rude and has no respect for any of them even banged table during UN and called them names that was why they plan against him and part of most people they use againt him are wanted terrorist

mindlezz:

Laff-wan-kill-me-die-for-hia-o  see dis guy arguing like a 6 year old. Ghadaffi e no get respect, Ghadaffi e rude, e banged table and dey planned against him loooooooooolz

mindlezz:

Laff-wan-kill-me-die-for-hia-o  see dis guy arguing like a 6 year old. Ghadaffi e no get respect, Ghadaffi e rude, e banged table and dey planned against him loooooooooolz

[b]Are we equal in the permanent seats. No. We are not equals.

And the preamble says that all nations are equal whether they are small nations or whether they are big nations as far as rights.


Do we have rights of a veto. Are we equals. The preamble says that we are equals in our rights whether we are big or small. This is what is stated, and this is what we have agreed in the preamble.

So, the veto is against the charter. The permanent seats are against the charter. We do not accept it and we do not acknowledge it, neither do we recognize it.
(Gaddafi ripped up a UN charter at this point)

The charter states that we in the preamble, I mean that we should not resort to military force unless it is a common interest.

This is the preamble which we were happy and we signed, and we joined the United Nations because we wanted the charter to be like that.

It says that the armed forces only use it when it is a common interest to all nations. But after that, what happened? Sixty five wars broke out after the establishment of the United Nations and after the establishment of the Security Council, and after this establishment. Sixty five, and the victims are millions more than victims of the Second World War.

Are these wars and the aggressions and the force that was used, and the power (ph) in the 65 wars, in the common interest of all of us? No. It was the interest of one country or three countries or four countries or one country. But it was not in the interest of all the nations.[/b]