004gist:

Non of the father's of faith identified with TB Joshua that says a lot unlike Idahosa that his name still ring bell in the pentecostal arena.

The mainstream So called Gospel of faith are not better, because TB was not influenced by spirit of mammon as evidence in the tactical methods employed by these mainstream. We know a true man of God by the fruits of their ministry.
These mainstream challatans is the reason why pastors are not respected. TBj did not discriminate in humane acts even core nothern Muslims admired him because he portrayed the very message of christ in the beatitudes.

Back to your comment. If mainstream GO s disapproved him and the biblical standard approved him. then their opinions don't count in validating him.

EreluRoz:
I can never marry a pastor lailai. I love to sleep and relax very well so I can't marry someone that'll deprive me of that.

Same here. My husband can't be catering for others and neglecting home most times.
That's more of what pastors do.

AntiChristian:
No one controls death except God!
No one promised you you'll all live to old age!

Even a fetus can die!

All those beliefs are false!

I'll will not die but continue to declare the works of the Lord!

Sorry, but you'll die anytime!


And even if you take care of yourself well eating healthy, keeping fit, etc you can still die too!

Strange but true

So what you're saying conversely is that the pastors that are living into their 70s and 80s are not great men of God

Goodlady:

Same here. My husband can't be catering for others and neglecting home most times.
That's more of what pastors do.

mummy GO duties na your mate?

Plus he'll be so tired at nights, I won't marry a tired sleeping man only to be watching him sleeping away like a tired ekuke dog. No be me abeg

Daejumong:
It is a great irony to see great clergymen who had an illustrious ministry laden with unbelievable miracles, healings and testimonies die in their prime!
What could be the cause? Did they fall into secret sin? Did they backslide? Did they have dark secrets ? or were they taken to glory early to prevent them from falling into sin and eventual eternal perdition.
Could it be they got so busy with the flock and forgot to take care of themselves.
Look at the great Benson Idahosa, the father of Pentecostalism in Nigeria, he died in his office likely from a cardiac arrest. He was in his late fifties.

TB Joshua, arguably the most talked about clergy in the world, died after alleged health battles which ultimately culminated in his death. He was in his late fifties.

Dare Adeboye, son of the Baba Adeboye died in his sleep likely from a cardiac arrest. He was in his forties.

What are the likely causes so we all learn especially the pastors among us

Stress and Demands of Ministry:
Pastoral roles come with immense stress, including emotional burdens, long working hours, and high expectations.
The pressure to shepherd a congregation, provide spiritual guidance, and manage church affairs can take a toll on pastors’ health.

Lifestyle Choices:
Unhealthy habits, such as lack of exercise, poor diet, and inadequate sleep, contribute to health issues.
Some pastors may neglect self-care while prioritizing their congregations.

Mental Health Challenges:
Depression, anxiety, and burnout affect pastors.
The weight of pastoral responsibilities can exacerbate mental health conditions.
Isolation and Loneliness:
Despite being surrounded by people, pastors may experience isolation.
They often lack close confidants due to the pastoral role’s unique demands.

Spiritual Warfare and Attacks:
Pastors face spiritual battles and attacks.
The enemy seeks to undermine their faith, health, and well-being.

Suicide Risk:
Some pastors struggle silently with mental health issues.
The stigma around seeking help may prevent them from addressing their emotional pain.
Tragically, some pastors die by suicide.

In summary, the challenges pastors encounter—stress, lifestyle choices, mental health, isolation, and spiritual warfare—contribute to their vulnerability. It’s crucial to prioritize pastors’ well-being and support them in their vital role.

There lord die at 33 so what do you expect

EreluRoz:
I can never marry a pastor lailai. I love to sleep and relax very well so I can't marry someone that'll deprive me of that.

U no wan be mummy G.O ?

EreluRoz:
I can never marry a pastor lailai. I love to sleep and relax very well so I can't marry someone that'll deprive me of that.

Rozz, Zzor etc. What's happening to ur accounts ?

GenFunction:
U no wan be mummy G.O ?

lailai abeg. I want to enjoy myself all round. I no get the energy to do mummy GO

alphaNomega:
if god was real as all religions make us believe, we would not need doctors and hospitals. We would not even need farmers and fishermen.

If God was real based on your perspective, then we wont be men and women of free will. We will be like robots, programmed to do only what his creator wants, without a capacity to do evil. Then the world wouldn't have fallen into sin, which brought with it evil, sickness, poverty and death.

Daejumong:
It is a great irony to see great clergymen who had an illustrious ministry laden with unbelievable miracles, healings and testimonies die in their prime!
What could be the cause? Did they fall into secret sin? Did they backslide? Did they have dark secrets ? or were they taken to glory early to prevent them from falling into sin and eventual eternal perdition.
Could it be they got so busy with the flock and forgot to take care of themselves.
Look at the great Benson Idahosa, the father of Pentecostalism in Nigeria, he died in his office likely from a cardiac arrest. He was in his late fifties.

TB Joshua, arguably the most talked about clergy in the world, died after alleged health battles which ultimately culminated in his death. He was in his late fifties.

Dare Adeboye, son of the Baba Adeboye died in his sleep likely from a cardiac arrest. He was in his forties.

What are the likely causes so we all learn especially the pastors among us

Stress and Demands of Ministry:
Pastoral roles come with immense stress, including emotional burdens, long working hours, and high expectations.
The pressure to shepherd a congregation, provide spiritual guidance, and manage church affairs can take a toll on pastors’ health.

Lifestyle Choices:
Unhealthy habits, such as lack of exercise, poor diet, and inadequate sleep, contribute to health issues.
Some pastors may neglect self-care while prioritizing their congregations.

Mental Health Challenges:
Depression, anxiety, and burnout affect pastors.
The weight of pastoral responsibilities can exacerbate mental health conditions.
Isolation and Loneliness:
Despite being surrounded by people, pastors may experience isolation.
They often lack close confidants due to the pastoral role’s unique demands.

Spiritual Warfare and Attacks:
Pastors face spiritual battles and attacks.
The enemy seeks to undermine their faith, health, and well-being.

Suicide Risk:
Some pastors struggle silently with mental health issues.
The stigma around seeking help may prevent them from addressing their emotional pain.
Tragically, some pastors die by suicide.

In summary, the challenges pastors encounter—stress, lifestyle choices, mental health, isolation, and spiritual warfare—contribute to their vulnerability. It’s crucial to prioritize pastors’ well-being and support them in their vital role.

see your head like chatgpt

EreluRoz:
lailai abeg. I want to enjoy myself all round. I no get the energy to do mummy GO

"i want to enjoy mysef all round" LOL.

highchief1:
calm down we no Dey question am we Dey only wonder why.its a nice thread don’t take it personal.no be u holy pass for here.

Why are you wondering?

GenFunction:
"i want to enjoy mysef all round" LOL.

Can you be a pastor

alphaNomega:
if god was real as all religions make us believe, we would not need doctors and hospitals. We would not even need farmers and fishermen.

Only a fool say in his heart, there's nothing like GOD

EreluRoz:
I can never marry a pastor lailai. I love to sleep and relax very well so I can't marry someone that'll deprive me of that.

May the Lord grant you a loving and successful Pastor partner according to His will

stephenponti:
The mainstream So called Gospel of faith are not better, because TB was not influenced by spirit of mammon as evidence in the tactical methods employed by these mainstream. We know a true man of God by the fruits of their ministry.
These mainstream challatans is the reason why pastors are not respected. TBj did not discriminate in humane acts even core nothern Muslims admired him because he portrayed the very message of christ in the beatitudes.

Back to your comment. If mainstream GO s disapproved him and the biblical standard approved him. then their opinions don't count in validating him.

The very fact that you appear to be benevolent does not portray you to be a true Christian.
The Muslim appears to be benevolent. When you go to the north, you see alhaji and the rest giving alms does it mean they know christ?

You can't mention Christianity in Nigeria without acknowledgement of the effect of missionaries from Scotland etc.
You have to acknowledge the Catholics, methodist etc
You have to acknowledge Samuel Crowther etc when you mention anglican.
When it comes to pentecostal movements then you won't fail to acknowledge Joseph Babalola,Sydney Granville Elton before the modern Benson Idahosa etc.

You are an offsprings of ur parents. You can't just springforth without an impact from someone. That's how it flows

The very fact that the father's of faith disapproved him remains a mistry to Christiandom.

Finally, Joshua said he got born again from his mother's womb this put a lot of questions to his claim

ReacherSaidNoth:
The only thing certain here is that you are an unthinking entity. Your savior promised that you could do all things in his name, yet when you fall sick you visit the hospital and take medication. You and others like you are simply deluded.

myopic point of view

alphaNomega:
if god was real as all religions make us believe, we would not need doctors and hospitals. We would not even need farmers and fishermen.

You mean if there was god we would just sit and pray and he makes everything happens for us? Like we go just dey make he dey do everything for us? Lmao

CaptainJune:


One thing is certain, you don't know God.

e no go better for your jehovah n jesus, you still no wan get sense this 2024, nawa o

EreluRoz:
Can you be a pastor

Oboy e lol

alphaNomega:
if god was real as all religions make us believe, we would not need doctors and hospitals. We would not even need farmers and fishermen.

Bro What do you do for a living ?

AntiChristian:
No one controls death except God!
No one promised you you'll all live to old age!

Even a fetus can die!

All those beliefs are false!

I'll will not die but continue to declare the works of the Lord!

Sorry, but you'll die anytime!

And even if you take care of yourself well eating healthy, keeping fit, etc you can still die too!

Rorbish
Are u wyning Jesus?
Your pastor can turn water to fuel, why you still go to filling station?
You can die anytime? Have you not heard of Count St Germain?
Do you not believe there is philosopher stone?

EreluRoz:
mummy GO duties na your mate?

Plus he'll be so tired at nights, I won't marry a tired sleeping man only to be watching him sleeping away like a tired ekuke dog. No be me abeg

😂
How can a pastor be used to settle sexual matters btw couples for the church and can't settle his own at home?
He dey ment?
Holy Ghost fire drive away useless men from our midst, amen.

sexiestharam:

Why are you wondering?

at the appropriate time you will know why.

I have not seen anyone that was healed by a pastor

Some of you ask silly question..
Is long age about been born again ?
If it's about been be a Pastor or born again that makes someone live long, then what happened to those that don't believe even in Jesu Christ not to talk of been born again?
Why don't you as well ask yourself, why Jesus Christ died young ?
Nigeria is filled with hypocritical people

Krismas:
Rorbish
Are u wyning Jesus?
Your pastor can turn water to fuel, why you still go to filling station?
You can die anytime? Have you not heard of Count St Germain?
Do you not believe there is philosopher stone?

I don't have any Pastor!
Open your eyes and see my moniker!

Nursepepeye:
how can you give such backside to someone who will not nack am well in the first place

Nurse pepeye has spoken 🤠

Goodlady:

😂
How can a pastor be used to settle sexual matters btw couples for the church and can't settle his own at home?
He dent ment?
Holy Ghost fire drive away useless men from our midst, amen.

Amen ooo

You see most of these mummy GOs ehn, they are sexually starved and that's the truth.
After all the casting and binding during the days they'll only get a tired man snoring his life away at night leaving mummy with cravings.

I don't envy mummy GOs

Danmisra:

The mentality of an atheist regarding religion is very foolish to me. Pls tell if atheist have sense here

They cannot make themselves rich and live longer, they can't help themselves nor their children but they say the is no God.

.

EreluRoz:
Amen ooo

You see most of these mummy GOs ehn, they are sexually starved and that's the truth.
After all the casting and binding during the days they'll only get a tired man snoring his life away at night leaving mummy with cravings.

I don't envy mummy GOs

Na dem sabi wetin carry dem go there.
Prenup agreement is vital.