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Forgotten War Crimes And Crimes Against Humanity Against Eastern Nigerians. by Dawgpound: 11:09am On Nov 17, 2011
In the 1960s over 80,000 Easterners and Mid-westerners (Igbos, Efiks, Ijo) were slaughtered across Northern and parts of Western Nigeria. Pregnant women had their womb cut open. Old men and women were forced into tanks and blown up. Many fled back to the East.

Biafran war ensued after that and 3 million more were either massacred or starved to death by the soldiers representing the Federal Government of Nigeria. The injustice continued with the Federal government's sponsored mass robbery of Easterners leaving them with only 20 pounds. In all essence the Federal Government wanted to further kill them off and yes many died of hunger or committed suicide.

During that war over 2000 Igbos were murdered in Asaba.

Hundreds more were slaughtered in other parts of the Mid-west.
In the 90s the Ogoni in particular were massacred in their thousands by the army and many fled as refugees to the US and other countries. Ken-Saro Wiwa the leader of the peaceful movement against oil exploration and environmental destruction of Ogoni land and 3 others were killed.

During OBJ's regime 200 Ijaw civilians were massacred in Odi.

Why haven't we made a concrete effort as a people to hunt down these criminals and have them charged and prosecuted? Why haven't we even tried to take matters in our own hands and seek justice for our people?

I believe that its our responsibility as a people to say to those who have caused us so much harm and pain and to the world that enough is enough. If these criminals grow old, die and get away without facing justice for their crimes we risk creating a society where more people will be emboldened to commit similar crimes.

Its our moral responsibility to seek justice for our dead.
Re: Forgotten War Crimes And Crimes Against Humanity Against Eastern Nigerians. by FACE(m): 2:19pm On Nov 17, 2011
Dawgpound:

In the 1960s over 80,000 Easterners and Mid-westerners (Igbos, Efiks, Ijo) were slaughtered across Northern and parts of Western Nigeria. Pregnant women had their womb cut open. Old men and women were forced into tanks and blown up. Many fled back to the East.

Biafran war ensued after that and 3 million more were either massacred or starved to death by the soldiers representing the Federal Government of Nigeria. The injustice continued with the Federal government's sponsored mass robbery of Easterners leaving them with only 20 pounds. In all essence the Federal Government wanted to further kill them off and yes many died of hunger or committed suicide.

During that war over 2000 Igbos were murdered in Asaba.

Hundreds more were slaughtered in other parts of the Mid-west.
In the 90s the Ogoni in particular were massacred in their thousands by the army and many fled as refugees to the US and other countries. Ken-Saro Wiwa the leader of the peaceful movement against oil exploration and environmental destruction of Ogoni land and 3 others were killed.

During OBJ's regime 200 Ijaw civilians were massacred in Odi.

Why haven't we made a concrete effort as a people to hunt down these criminals and have them charged and prosecuted? Why haven't we even tried to take matters in our own hands and seek justice for our people?

I believe that its our responsibility as a people to say to those who have caused us so much harm and pain and to the world that enough is enough. If these criminals grow old, die and get away without facing justice for their crimes we risk creating a society where more people will be emboldened to commit similar crimes.

Its our moral responsibility to seek justice for our dead.

You cannot hunt down anybody as long as people play the ostrich. People from a particular section derive pleasure in gloating about the defeat of Biafra and the starvation and massacre of innocent Biafran children. Those people do not share your views about any wrong doing.

More civilians died in the war than the fighting units due to deliberate targeting of civilian areas. My mum escaped death more than twice when our market square was bombed several times. My kindred would have be wiped out if not for God's grace as He did not allow the bomb that was dropped in our compound to explode. My dad was in Aba general hospital when it was bombed and many were killed. More sordid tales abound.

People think that they can gloat and laugh at our misfortune, but "although young men throw stones at frogs in sports, the frogs do not die in sports, but in earnest". The gloating will only serve to keep the war wounds fresh and bleeding.

I watched the remembrance day service (UK) and I felt huge pride and big emotions for the fallen. The fact that some people ask us to wish away the war as if it never happened shows that we have different values for the life and dignity of man.

The wounds begin to heal when Nigeria look at fallen Biafra in the face and say:

" we thought it was best to bring us together as a country and we had to fight to do so. However, we were wrong to target innocent civilians to unite the country. We are sorry for the war crimes against you and shouldn't have robbed you of your possessions after the war"

Those that died will forever remain our "Glorious Dead". It is our duty to remember them and to continue to pass down the war stories from generation to generation until they are recognised and honoured.
Re: Forgotten War Crimes And Crimes Against Humanity Against Eastern Nigerians. by seanet02: 2:22pm On Nov 17, 2011
as if people did not die when ibos attack the midwest.
Hypocrites
Re: Forgotten War Crimes And Crimes Against Humanity Against Eastern Nigerians. by aljharem3: 2:36pm On Nov 17, 2011
[size=27pt]The Forceful Invasion And Massacar Of The Mid-westerners By Biafrans And Ojukwu[/color][/size]

The Gathering Storm.

As far back as April 6th, 1967 almost two months before the proclamation of secession, special branch police reports had alerted the federal government of certain activities that were to take on significance later (10). Two officers from the eastern region, (Lt. Col. Ude and Major Obioha) were in contact with some of their counterparts in the Midwest to make arrangements for the possible occupation of the Midwest by troops from the Eastern Area Command. The pretext would be that the Midwest was not strong enough to defend itself and that Midwest Ibos needed protection. This occupation was to be coordinated with a simultaneous seizure of the Western region, which (according to the report) was why some individuals (presumably Ojukwu, Awolowo and Adebayo) were advocating that "northern" troops leave that region.

Outright molestation, harassment and killing of non-Ibo civilians occurred on a daily basis. At night "suspected saboteurs" were fished out of their homes and arrested. The Hausa community in the Lagos street area of Benin and other parts of the state were targeted for particularly savage treatment, in part a reprisal for the pogroms of 1966, but also out of security concerns that they would naturally harbor sympathies for the regime in Lagos. But non-Hausas were just as badly treated. And as the hostility of the local population became more intense, so did the degree of indiscrete brutality for "internal security". Non-Ibo alumni of St. Patrick's College, Asaba and Government College, Ughelli, found to their chagrin that old school ties meant nothing in the new dispensation (17).

Radio broadcasts "educated" the public about the role of 'gallant' Biafran troops who had only come to liberate them from the "bondage of the feudal Hausa-Fulani oligarchy". An economic cooperation agreement was announced between the 'independent' states of Biafra and the Midwest. The truth, though, was that Ojukwu retained authority to approve all expenditures made by the Okonkwo regime and it was not until September 13th that normal postal, telephone and telegraphic services between Biafra and the Midwest were resumed (15). Counter-propaganda was indeed launched by federal radio, which appealed to the citizens of the state for loyalty and cooperation.

In this atmosphere, civil resistance and disobedience germinated, predominantly among non-Ibos. But a few Midwest Ibo-speaking soldiers and civilians did become leery about the invasion and felt the 'interference' from "across the Niger" was getting out of hand. On the other side of this opinion divide was the powerful, so-called "Enugu clique", eager to share in the destiny of the corporate Ibo nation (14). Such ambiguous sensitivities and antipathies within and between "western" and "eastern" Ibos have always existed. Long after the civil war, for example, it even affected negotiations about the creation of a proposed anioma state

[color=#990000]There are undoubtedly some historians (10) who see similarities between Ojukwu's invasion of the Midwest and Hitler's March 1938 march into Austria (the Anchsluss) following which he secured the annexation of Sudetenland in September (23). I think we can infer additional reasons, based on the operational and political details of the campaign, seen in light of the Nigerian situation at that time.

you can read more here

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-714801.0.html
Re: Forgotten War Crimes And Crimes Against Humanity Against Eastern Nigerians. by namfav(m): 2:39pm On Nov 17, 2011
blah blah blah they are always the victims, no one else
Re: Forgotten War Crimes And Crimes Against Humanity Against Eastern Nigerians. by aljharem3: 2:48pm On Nov 17, 2011
Odi was a military invasion just like what happened in Lagos in 1960, 1996 and 2000 so why not talk of the crime against humanity in the western Nigeria as well ?

in 1960, Nnamdi Azikwe orderd the arrest of Awolowo, in the process killing and victimizing the yoruba people in Lagos

http://www.itnsource.com/shotlist//ITN/1962/11/13/FS131162001/?s=awolowo+arrest&st=0&pn=1

In 1996, Abubakar' ordered the arrest of yoruba leaders and sent the military to the SW region of Nigeria.

THE MASSACRE OF OODUA YOUTHS: THE CONTINUING GENOCIDE, WILL IT EVER END?

Congress, had just finished a meeting in a private home in Somolu, Bariga,
when they were accosted by men of "Operation Sweep" a Lagos- based
organization set up by Abacha to implement Abacha's policy of ethnic
cleansing of the Yorubas


http://www.reocities.com/CapitolHill/lobby/5144/massacre.htm

OBJ KILLING OF YORUBAS, aka military invasion and locked up OPC leader gani adams for 2 years

I am coming back to the north
Re: Forgotten War Crimes And Crimes Against Humanity Against Eastern Nigerians. by aljharem3: 2:53pm On Nov 17, 2011
Why not talk of northerners being mmassared in the north as well ? Why the east alone ?


[size=27pt]Nigeria Storms Mosque, Killing More Than 100 Northern muslims in borno[/size]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/30/nigeria-storms-mosque-kil_n_247622.html



Northerners recieve death treats

http://odili.net/news/source/2011/sep/20/820.html

Northern Mulsims killed in Asaba and flee to baracks

http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/polls-violence-northerners-in-onitsha-flee-to-asaba-army-barracks/89960/
Re: Forgotten War Crimes And Crimes Against Humanity Against Eastern Nigerians. by jason123: 3:09pm On Nov 17, 2011
Dawgpound:

In the 1960s over 80,000 Easterners and Mid-westerners (Igbos, Efiks, Ijo) were slaughtered across Northern and[b] parts of Western Nigeri[/b]a. Pregnant women had their womb cut open. Old men and women were forced into tanks and blown up. Many fled back to the East.

Biafran war ensued after that and 3 million more were either massacred or starved to death by the soldiers representing the Federal Government of Nigeria. The injustice continued with the Federal government's sponsored mass robbery of Easterners leaving them with only 20 pounds. In all essence the Federal Government wanted to further kill them off and yes many died of hunger or committed suicide.

During that war over 2000 Igbos were murdered in Asaba.

Hundreds more were slaughtered in other parts of the Mid-west.
In the 90s the Ogoni in particular were massacred in their thousands by the army and many fled as refugees to the US and other countries. Ken-Saro Wiwa the leader of the peaceful movement against oil exploration and environmental destruction of Ogoni land and 3 others were killed.

During OBJ's regime 200 Ijaw civilians were massacred in Odi.

Why haven't we made a concrete effort as a people to hunt down these criminals and have them charged and prosecuted? Why haven't we even tried to take matters in our own hands and seek justice for our people?

I believe that its our responsibility as a people to say to those who have caused us so much harm and pain and to the world that enough is enough. If these criminals grow old, die and get away without facing justice for their crimes we risk creating a society where more people will be emboldened to commit similar crimes.

Its our moral responsibility to seek justice for our dead.

WHAT THE FUC.K?
Re: Forgotten War Crimes And Crimes Against Humanity Against Eastern Nigerians. by Chyz2: 3:11pm On Nov 17, 2011
alj_harem:

[size=27pt]The Forceful Invasion And Massacar Of The Mid-westerners By Biafrans/igbos And Ojukwu[/color][/size]

The Gathering Storm.

As far back as April 6th, 1967 almost two months before the proclamation of secession, special branch police reports had alerted the federal government of certain activities that were to take on significance later (10). Two officers from the eastern region, (Lt. Col. Ude and Major Obioha) were in contact with some of their counterparts in the Midwest to make arrangements for the possible occupation of the Midwest by troops from the Eastern Area Command. The pretext would be that the Midwest was not strong enough to defend itself and that Midwest Ibos needed protection. This occupation was to be coordinated with a simultaneous seizure of the Western region, which (according to the report) was why some individuals (presumably Ojukwu, Awolowo and Adebayo) were advocating that "northern" troops leave that region.

Outright molestation, harassment and killing of non-Ibo civilians occurred on a daily basis. At night "suspected saboteurs" were fished out of their homes and arrested. The Hausa community in the Lagos street area of Benin and other parts of the state were targeted for particularly savage treatment, in part a reprisal for the pogroms of 1966, but also out of security concerns that they would naturally harbor sympathies for the regime in Lagos. But non-Hausas were just as badly treated. And as the hostility of the local population became more intense, so did the degree of indiscrete brutality for "internal security". Non-Ibo alumni of St. Patrick's College, Asaba and Government College, Ughelli, found to their chagrin that old school ties meant nothing in the new dispensation (17).

Radio broadcasts "educated" the public about the role of 'gallant' Biafran troops who had only come to liberate them from the "bondage of the feudal Hausa-Fulani oligarchy". An economic cooperation agreement was announced between the 'independent' states of Biafra and the Midwest. The truth, though, was that Ojukwu retained authority to approve all expenditures made by the Okonkwo regime and it was not until September 13th that normal postal, telephone and telegraphic services between Biafra and the Midwest were resumed (15). Counter-propaganda was indeed launched by federal radio, which appealed to the citizens of the state for loyalty and cooperation.

In this atmosphere, civil resistance and disobedience germinated, predominantly among non-Ibos. But a few Midwest Ibo-speaking soldiers and civilians did become leery about the invasion and felt the 'interference' from "across the Niger" was getting out of hand. On the other side of this opinion divide was the powerful, so-called "Enugu clique", eager to share in the destiny of the corporate Ibo nation (14). Such ambiguous sensitivities and antipathies within and between "western" and "eastern" Ibos have always existed. Long after the civil war, for example, it even affected negotiations about the creation of a proposed anioma state

[color=#990000]There are undoubtedly some historians (10) who see similarities between Ojukwu's invasion of the Midwest and Hitler's March 1938 march into Austria (the Anchsluss) following which he secured the annexation of Sudetenland in September (23). I think we can infer additional reasons, based on the operational and political details of the campaign, seen in light of the Nigerian situation at that time.

you can read more here

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-714801.0.html

Al haram, where in the write up, apart from the title,does it say Biafrans "massacred" mid-westerners?
Re: Forgotten War Crimes And Crimes Against Humanity Against Eastern Nigerians. by aljharem3: 3:12pm On Nov 17, 2011
^^^^^^^^^^^

my bad, i would edit it now, edit ur comment to remove the ethic group
Re: Forgotten War Crimes And Crimes Against Humanity Against Eastern Nigerians. by Dawgpound: 3:18pm On Nov 17, 2011
Alj, stop spreading falsehood.
Re: Forgotten War Crimes And Crimes Against Humanity Against Eastern Nigerians. by PointB: 3:21pm On Nov 17, 2011
@Dawgpound,
The issue of progrom against people of the old eastern region (igbo, ijaw, efik, ibibio, annangs, etc) and massacre of MidWestern Igbos is a well documented history.

However other victims of the 1967 pre-war progrom, war genocide, and post war humiliation and nationalization most often than not are not willing to talk about it let alone ask for apology or restitution. The Igbo over and over again has been on the vanguard of campaign for closure for victims of the progrom.

Perhaps voices from Ijaws, Efiks, Ibibios, Annangs and other ethnic groups who suffered injustice during those dark era will lend importance and urgency to the fact that the time can never be more perfect than now to discuss the war. The progrom was invariably directed at people from old eastern region, while Igbo bore the largest brunt of these injustices, the intertwined nature of the old eastern people and culture meant that no one was left unscathed.

Time to speak out is NOW!
Re: Forgotten War Crimes And Crimes Against Humanity Against Eastern Nigerians. by PointB: 3:33pm On Nov 17, 2011
Ahj Harem,
Talking and taking action about crimes committed against Nigerian people in every nook and cranny in that country is important for the administration of justice and development of an egalitarian society. But it borders very close to mischief if your intention is to juxtapose state sponsored progrom and genocide with criminality and recklessness. Nevertheless, victim of both deserves mention and survivors, and relative of victims deserves closure.

That is the only way to heal the divides in this country. To pretend like nothing has happened and sweep this issue under the carpet is to postpone the doomsday.

Those who prevent peaceful change inevitably invites violent ones. We should jaw jaw or eventually war war. Whichever way we choose change will happen!
Re: Forgotten War Crimes And Crimes Against Humanity Against Eastern Nigerians. by Chyz2: 3:34pm On Nov 17, 2011
alj_harem:

Odi was a military invasion just like what happened in Lagos in 1960, 1996 and 2000 so why not talk of the crime against humanity in the western Nigeria as well ?

in 1960, Nnamdi Azikwe orderd the arrest of Awolowo, in the process killing and victimizing the yoruba people in Lagos

http://www.itnsource.com/shotlist//ITN/1962/11/13/FS131162001/?s=awolowo+arrest&st=0&pn=1

In 1996, Abubakar' ordered the arrest of yoruba leaders and sent the military to the SW region of Nigeria.

THE MASSACRE OF OODUA YOUTHS: THE CONTINUING GENOCIDE, WILL IT EVER END?

Congress, had just finished a meeting in a private home in Somolu, Bariga,
when they were accosted by men of "Operation Sweep" a Lagos- based
organization set up by Abacha to implement Abacha's policy of ethnic
cleansing of the Yorubas


http://www.reocities.com/CapitolHill/lobby/5144/massacre.htm

OBJ KILLING OF YORUBAS, aka military invasion and locked up OPC leader gani adams for 2 years

I am coming back to the north


Odi was not a military invasion like lagos in 1960,1996, or 2000. there was no ethnic cleasing of a people during those "invasions" unlike in Odi. If what you are saying was the case we would have been hearing of it even till this day like we do the '66 pogroms in the north, massacres against Biafra civilians(although the Nigerians said they were nigerians and are not the same as the Biafran rebels undecided), Odi, and Zaki Biam.

The arrest of yoruba leaders and their political thugs(OPC) was not a massacre at all.  Can't even believe you'd even bring that up.
Re: Forgotten War Crimes And Crimes Against Humanity Against Eastern Nigerians. by namfav(m): 3:38pm On Nov 17, 2011
ibos are hypocrite
Re: Forgotten War Crimes And Crimes Against Humanity Against Eastern Nigerians. by seanet02: 3:42pm On Nov 17, 2011
Ibos alias hypocrisy
Re: Forgotten War Crimes And Crimes Against Humanity Against Eastern Nigerians. by Afam4eva(m): 3:47pm On Nov 17, 2011
namfav:

ibos are hypocrite

seanet02:

Ibos alias hypocrisy

Why i'm i not suprised.
Re: Forgotten War Crimes And Crimes Against Humanity Against Eastern Nigerians. by aljharem3: 3:53pm On Nov 17, 2011
Dawgpound:

Alj, stop spreading falsehood.



oh i am spreading falsehood ?

You claim the easterners are killed in the west and north but I showed you it happened to every region and still happening till date.

How many easterners have been killed within the years 1990 to 2011 when compared to the westerners and northerners ?

just a month ago, 100 kanuri people were killed in the Mosque while they were praying to Allah for mercy and joy in this country Nigeria. Yet it is the easterners we all should focus on ?

That is why ignorant mumu's like Nayah and co would think the easterners are the only victims of the military era, not knowing that others are being killed daily in other regions as well.

Do you know of the Oyingbo masacre of the yorubas ?

Do you know of the Maiduguri massacre of the kanuris ?

Do you know of the Jos massacre of the hausas ?

Do you know of Ziam massacre of the Tiv ?

Do you know of the Warri massacre of the Itsekiris ?

Do you know of the bini, esan etc massacre in present day edo state

Do you know of the Yoruba massacre in the Island by the military during the protest of june 12

I can keep going on and on.

Now what do you know about baifra war ? I HIGHLY DOUBT IF YOU ARE OGONI

The one of the Ogoni nationalist and respected till today Saro wiwa NEVER SUPPORTED BAIFRA, only for an anonymous person like you claim ogoni and support baifra.

In fact Saro Wiwa was an AWOIST. YES THAT IS RIGHT AWOIST

http://www.nigerdeltacongress.com/articles/Awo%20and%20the%20Creation%20of%20States.htm

Again what do you know of baifra I ask ?

Issac boro was A nigerian military man, and he blocked the easterners from access to sea but of course they would blame awo because he said it is a legitimate weapon of war. I mean how can a finicial minister order the militray or cause a blockade . I dey laff o

TILL TODAY, THE SAME IJAWS, OGONI, IKWERRE ETC HAVE BLOCKED THE IGBOS FROM ACCESSING TO SEA.Quote me on this.

Abandon properties after the war nko.

Ojukwu and other Igbos and baifran people came to lagos and meant there children (under the yoruba care) intact and well educated.

Properties were given to igbos back in the north and West, did the same happen in port harcourt ?

Igbos and baifrans welcomed to lagos back by Awolowo

http://www.itnsource.com/shotlist//ITN/1967/07/22/FS220767100/?s=lagos+baifra+ojukwu&st=0&pn=3

what else do you want from the people you committed ethnic cleasing on ?

WHAT ELSE ? after the death of the grand son of USMAN DAN FODIO ?

what else after the gloating of killing leaders of the west and northern Nigeria with a yoruba leaber unborn baby which was killed as well

Abeg go siddon jor, the thing dey vex me as una dey talk rubbish/ post rubbish

always revisiting the past that was created by them. WHY

can't we move forward ? Yet you would shout Igbo presidency. How is this possible if we the people that would vote know there is such bitterness in your hearts . I mean think of it

We all know that even after the igbo presidency you people would gloat and do other silly things, but we are ready to take one for the team Nigeria. So chill with this baifra rubbish been posted on this site every day and watch and pray for Nigeria to grow in the North, west and east. We all should work together. HABA angry
Re: Forgotten War Crimes And Crimes Against Humanity Against Eastern Nigerians. by aljharem3: 3:58pm On Nov 17, 2011
Chyz*:

Odi was not a military invasion like lagos in 1960,1996, or 2000. there was no ethnic cleasing of a people during those "invasions" unlike in Odi. If what you are saying was the case we would have been hearing of it even till this day like we do the '66 pogroms in the north, massacres against Biafra civilians(although the Nigerians said they were nigerians and are not the same as the Biafran rebels undecided), Odi, and Zaki Biam.

The arrest of yoruba leaders and their political thugs(OPC) was not a massacre at all.  Can't even believe you'd even bring that up.

Just because the west don't cry and shout does not mean it massacres don't happen there.

Odi was a military invasion ordered back then
http://www.waado.org/environment/fedgovt_nigerdelta/bayelsainvasion/AssessmentOfInvasion/AssessmentsOfDestructionOfOdi.html

It was done to reduce the protest of the militants which were about to erupt from the region called Balysea.

Yoruba massacre YES IT HAPPENED AND HOW WOULD YOU KNOW, IGBOS AND OTHER ETHNIC GROUPS RAN TO THERE VARIOUS REGION BACK

THE HAUSA AND OTHER WENT TO THE NORTH AND THE IGBOS AND OTHER WENT TO THE EAST.

it happened 1960, 1996 or so, 2000 by OBJ

in fact there was a protest of which the military was shoting straight at people in Lagos close to Okobaba
Re: Forgotten War Crimes And Crimes Against Humanity Against Eastern Nigerians. by aljharem3: 4:12pm On Nov 17, 2011
I am sure if I did not talk of the massacre of Kanuri muslims in the Mosque by the military, NO ONE WOULD KNOW OR EVEN ASK

the innocent people praying were killed just because they were muslims cry

Yet I don't see people documenting this facts

how sad naija cry cry angry
Re: Forgotten War Crimes And Crimes Against Humanity Against Eastern Nigerians. by Chyz2: 4:23pm On Nov 17, 2011
alj_harem:

Just because the west don't cry and shout does not mean it massacres don't happen there.

Odi was a military invasion ordered back then
http://www.waado.org/environment/fedgovt_nigerdelta/bayelsainvasion/AssessmentOfInvasion/AssessmentsOfDestructionOfOdi.html

It was done to reduce the protest of the militants which were about to erupt from the region called Balysea.


Like I said before, it was not a military invasion like during the dates you posted. And no, it was not to reduce "militant protest". Militants DO NOT protest. Also, the whole area was raised and burnt down and innocent civilians targetted, killed ,and raped. Show me where that has happened to yoruba. I dare you. Odi was cleansing down due to corrupt deals made by the FG(lead by Obasanjo) and Shell. More area was needed.

Yoruba massacre YES IT HAPPENED AND HOW WOULD YOU KNOW, IGBOS AND OTHER ETHNIC GROUPS RAN TO THERE VARIOUS REGION BACK

THE HAUSA AND OTHER WENT TO THE NORTH AND THE IGBOS AND OTHER WENT TO THE EAST.


When that happen, it was the yorubas doing the "massacring" not the Igbo and Hausa. That is why they were leaving. The army was called in by cause of YOUR people "massacring" others. Lets get it together brother. Your write up doesn't even make sense. If the yoruba were being massacred why would the Igbo and Hausa leave? For what reason since they are not the targets?  undecided

in fact there was a protest of which the military was shoting straight at people in Lagos close to Okobaba

Pls, you are bring up protest that non-yorubas even protested in. And why even use such an ethnically diverse place like lagos? It would make more sense if it were Ogun,ekiti,osun,. . .
Re: Forgotten War Crimes And Crimes Against Humanity Against Eastern Nigerians. by Chyz2: 4:24pm On Nov 17, 2011
alj_harem:

I am sure if I did not talk of the massacre of Kanuri muslims in the Mosque by the military, NO ONE WOULD KNOW OR EVEN ASK

the innocent people praying were killed just because they were muslims cry

Yet I don't see people documenting this facts

how sad naija cry cry angry

You're funny.
Re: Forgotten War Crimes And Crimes Against Humanity Against Eastern Nigerians. by Nobody: 4:27pm On Nov 17, 2011
here we go again

as if the likes of osisikanu have not outdone anything that happened all those years ago. keep beefing the rest of nigeria while you rob , murder and r-ape yourselves to bits.

it was  war and biafra lost.

if japan had won the war, america would still be paying reparations for hiroshima and nagasaki. but japan lost.

in spite of ogbangewe etal, biafra lost. deal with it.

funny how kids who did not experience the war  keep spamming nl with revisionist history etal.
Re: Forgotten War Crimes And Crimes Against Humanity Against Eastern Nigerians. by Chyz2: 4:34pm On Nov 17, 2011
oyb:

here we go again

as if the likes of osisikanu have not outdone anything that happened all those years ago. keep beefing the rest of nigeria while you rob , murder and r-ape yourselves to bits.

it was  war and biafra lost.

if japan had won the war, america would still be paying reparations for hiroshima and nagasaki. but japan lost.

in spite of ogbangewe etal, biafra lost. deal with it.

funny how kids who did not experience the war  keep spamming nl with revisionist history etal.

Just tell your yoruba revionist like Al haram that he cannot fool those whose people lived the war. I am from the former midwest. My area is right beside Urhoboland. I know the stories abt what went on with igbos and non-igbos in the midwest and Biafrans and nigerians in the East. One part of my fam is from the former midwest while the other from the East. I know abt both sides.
Re: Forgotten War Crimes And Crimes Against Humanity Against Eastern Nigerians. by jason123: 4:40pm On Nov 17, 2011
Chyz*:

Just tell your yoruba revionist like Al haram that he cannot fool those whose people lived the war. I am from midwest. My area is right beside Urhoboland. I know the stories abt what went on with igbos and non-igbos in the midwest and Biafrans and nigerians in the East.

Chyz, apart from some defensive attacks because we HAD to defend ourselves from the Biafran army and their FORCEFUL occupation, can you please tell us about what happened to midwestern Igbos (btw,asaba was carried out by muritala who worked for the FG, an edo man) and I am particularly interested in what happened midwestern non-igbos. Thanks.
Re: Forgotten War Crimes And Crimes Against Humanity Against Eastern Nigerians. by Chyz2: 5:02pm On Nov 17, 2011
jason123:

Chyz, apart from some defensive attacks because we HAD to defend ourselves from the Biafran army and their FORCEFUL occupation, can you please tell us about what happened to midwestern Igbos (btw,asaba was carried out by muritala who worked for the FG, an edo man) and I am particularly interested in what happened midwestern non-igbos. Thanks.

Muritala will always be a northerner. Muritala=FG. How was the Biafra occupation forceful? Maybe you can also tell me what non-midwestern soldier where doing in the midwest also? In the midwest, there were clashes between Igbos and the minorities who saw it as the perfect opportunity to have vengeance on "one of the major tribes". They had there local tribal militias enter Igbo areas and batter and humiliate the igbos along with the soldiers. When the Biafrans came there were no massacring of non-igbos but vegence was taken and I'm sure those who tried to fight those "rebels" with weapons were killed.

There is nothing wrong with defending your people against the Biafrans but the civilans were not Biafrans.

Can you imagine "your" government allowing another tribal people to enter your village to lord over you with their local militias and give them military weapons,not to talk of the locally made wapons they already had as if you are their slaves?
Re: Forgotten War Crimes And Crimes Against Humanity Against Eastern Nigerians. by namfav(m): 5:31pm On Nov 17, 2011
teh defeat that biafra got was deserved, if biafra was in our position goodness me there would have been a extermination of every northerner and sw'er we've already seen that biafra did not care about anyone it was a state that was prepared to live with animosity with its neighbours, if biafra was as strong as nigeria, they would have exterminated us like the genocide in germany, every defeat for biafra was deserved, apart from the civilians whose deaths lay in ojukwus conscious

Chyz*:

Muritala will always be a northerner. Muritala=FG. How was the Biafra occupation forceful? Maybe you can also tell me what non-midwestern soldier where doing in the midwest also? In the midwest, there were clashes between Igbos and the minorities who saw it as the perfect opportunity to have vengeance on "one of the major tribes". They had there local tribal militias enter Igbo areas and batter and humiliate the igbos along with the soldiers. When the Biafrans came there were no massacring of non-igbos but vegence was taken and I'm sure those who tried to fight those "rebels" with weapons were killed.

There is nothing wrong with defending your people against the Biafrans but the civilans were not Biafrans.

Can you imagine "your" government allowing another tribal people to enter your village to lord over you with their local militias and give them military weapons,not to talk of the locally made wapons they already had as if you are their slaves?
Re: Forgotten War Crimes And Crimes Against Humanity Against Eastern Nigerians. by jason123: 5:34pm On Nov 17, 2011
Chyz*:

Muritala will always be a northerner. Muritala=FG. How was the Biafra occupation forceful? Maybe you can also tell me what non-midwestern soldier where doing in the midwest also? In the midwest, there were clashes between Igbos and the minorities who saw it as the perfect opportunity to have vengeance on "one of the major tribes". They had there local tribal militias enter Igbo areas and batter and humiliate the igbos along with the soldiers. When the Biafrans came there were no massacring of non-igbos but vegence was taken and I'm sure those who tried to fight those "rebels" with weapons were killed.

There is nothing wrong with defending your people against the Biafrans but the civilans were not Biafrans.

Can you imagine "your" government allowing another tribal people to enter your village to lord over you with their local militias and give them military weapons,not to talk of the locally made wapons they already had as if you are their slaves?

Chyz, you are asking how Biafran occupation was forceful? Biafran army entered the mid-west even though the midwest did not want to be part of it. Igbo midwesterners were seen as traitors because they occupied most of the midwestern army (after it was decreed that all soldiers should return to their region) and they were meant to protect the midwest from external aggression such as the Biafran army. According to one account, the midwestern Igbos conspired with their eastern counter parts to occupy the MW with minimum resistance. And this was evident in the way MW igbos started their condescending attitude to non-Igbo midwesterners. In fact Banjo told Ojukwu to let the Administrator of the MW be a nonIgbo MW but Ojukwu had to his will by doing the opposite and installing an Igbo MWesterner.

What non-MWesterner Igbo doing in the MW? The MW was still part of the Nigerian "united nations", hence, Nigeria still had a say on what happens in the region. And no, it was not seen as an opportunity, after all, the reprisal was not until months after the invasion. About the militia, we had to defend ourselves and since our "brothers" had conspired against OUR interest and the soldiers attacked first (Banjo warned them, remember).

About the massacres, certainly not. It was all a climax of events.

About the civilians, most conspired with the Eastern Igbos. Some even called out "saboteurs" so the Soldiers could identify and kill, imprison or torture them.

However, there one thing I must point out, the killing of civilians cannot be justified. But then again, it was a civilian to civilian battle for the control of the MW.
Re: Forgotten War Crimes And Crimes Against Humanity Against Eastern Nigerians. by Dawgpound: 5:44pm On Nov 17, 2011
Alj Harem, throwing Saro Wiwa's sins against the Igbo and Biafrans @ my face is just not going to work because he came back and apologized. The Ogoni don't even own any part of PH so what concerns us with Ikwerre, Igbo and Ijo ppl? Ogoni ppl did not take properties from Igbo ppl. Saro Wiwa is just 1 Ogoni man and his actions can't be used against us. We are not responsible for whatever he did. Kobani and Kogbara were both Ogoni and fought for Biafra just like my family stood for Biafra so please FALL BACK. I have had this discussion with Igbos who think the Ogoni as a people fought against Biafra. All Eastern minorities should not be branded anti-Biafra due to actions of Adaka an Ijaw Boro or Wiwa an Ogoni.

As for ur Boko Haram loving Kanuri brothers allegedly getting killed @ the mosque, it your responsibility to seek justice for them not mine. I am not Kanuri neither did I even have knowledge of poor Kanuri people getting oppressed by the army who are majority Hausa-Fulani and Kanuri. If in your culture its okay to slaughter humans and move on then that's just ur problem. In my culture we speak up against injustice. Jews, Armenians are still seeking justice. Jews in particular have gone as far as hunting former Nazis physically so what is wrong about us.

The men who killed, maimed and destroyed Ogoni land must be brought to book and made to pay.

Igbos, Efik, Annang, Ijaw, also owe it to themselves to do the same.

You don't think I'm Ogoni? LOL! No I am Tiv.
Re: Forgotten War Crimes And Crimes Against Humanity Against Eastern Nigerians. by aljharem3: 6:21pm On Nov 17, 2011
Dawgpound:

Alj Harem, throwing [size=16pt]Saro Wiwa's sins[/size] against the Igbo and Biafrans @ my face is just not going to work because he came back and apologized. The Ogoni don't even own any part of PH so what concerns us with Ikwerre, Igbo and Ijo ppl? Ogoni ppl did not take properties from Igbo ppl. [size=16pt]Saro Wiwa is just 1 Ogoni man and his actions can't be used against us[/size]. We are not responsible for whatever he did. Kobani and Kogbara were both Ogoni and fought for Biafra just like my family stood for Biafra so please FALL BACK. I have had this discussion with Igbos who think the Ogoni as a people fought against Biafra. [size=16pt]All Eastern minorities should not be branded anti-Biafra due to actions of Adaka an Ijaw Boro or Wiwa an Ogoni.[/size]

[b]As for your Boko Haram loving Kanuri brothers allegedly getting killed @ the mosque, it your responsibility to seek justice for them not mine. I am not Kanuri neither did I even have knowledge of poor Kanuri people getting oppressed by the army who are majority Hausa-Fulani and Kanuri. [/b]If in your culture its okay to slaughter humans and move on then that's just your problem. In my culture we speak up against injustice. Jews, Armenians are still seeking justice. Jews in particular have gone as far as hunting former Nazis physically so what is wrong about us.

The men who killed, maimed and destroyed Ogoni land must be brought to book and made to pay.

Igbos, Efik, Annang, Ijaw, also owe it to themselves to do the same.

You don't think I'm Ogoni? LOL! No I am Tiv.

Really I feel sorry for you, Saro wiwa's SINS. HOW A well respected Ogoni Icon till today and even in port Harcourt the Ogoni I have meant respect this man to bits and yet you are rubbishing him for all he fought for. WHEN DID SARO WIWA APOLOGISE I WOULD LIKE YOU TO TELL ME.

I brought out a letter he wrote in his house just before he was taken and you are posting that he apologise. WHERE AND WHAT DAY ?

The military is [size=20pt]NOT[/size] ethnically biased to ANY GROUP or any ethnic group. it sole alliance is to NIGERIA REGARDLESS OF THE ETHNIC NATIONALITY. Just so you know, we know of some Igbos that fought against Baifra,, Issac boro and Ijaw man, etc

The Military is not controlled or predominately Hausa/fulani/kanuri but Middle belters like Tiv, idoma, berom, nupe, igala along side South-south people.

the Military heads are a different issue which the Igbos control the Navy, the yorubas air force and the Hausa infantory

that is the way it is divided.

In terms of Military personal, The Middle belt and South-south people are more than 70% of the Nigerian military. Ask anyone that is in the army.
Re: Forgotten War Crimes And Crimes Against Humanity Against Eastern Nigerians. by Chyz2: 6:46pm On Nov 17, 2011
jason123:

Chyz, you are asking how Biafran occupation was forceful? Biafran army entered the mid-west even though the midwest did not want to be part of it. Igbo midwesterners were seen as traitors because they occupied most of the midwestern army (after it was decreed that all soldiers should return to their region) and they were meant to protect the midwest from external aggression such as the Biafran army. According to one account, the midwestern Igbos conspired with their eastern counter parts to occupy the MW with minimum resistance. And this was evident in the way MW igbos started their condescending attitude to non-Igbo midwesterners. In fact Banjo told Ojukwu to let the Administrator of the MW be a nonIgbo MW but Ojukwu had to his will by doing the opposite and installing an Igbo MWesterner.

Here you go again trying to give a yoruba man props. Banjo suggested no such thing. He has not a HEAD. It was Ojukwu and Effiong,period. Leave banjo and your lies out of it.

When did midwest Igbos ever showed any condescending attitude towards non-igbos in the midwest. Pls i would like to see that right up. When and in what ways?

Can you tell me the particular areas or cities the Biafrans occupied in the mid-west?


What non-MWesterner Igbo doing in the MW? The MW was still part of the Nigerian "united nations", hence, Nigeria still had a say on what happens in the region. And no, it was not seen as an opportunity, after all, the reprisal was not until months after the invasion. About the militia, we had to defend ourselves and since our "brothers" had conspired against OUR interest and the soldiers attacked first (Banjo warned them, remember).

And again, Banjo was the saint and another yoruba warrior king just like abiola, fajuyi,Ige,etc. You people make me sick. Sanusi was right about you all in his write up,lol.

About the civilians, most conspired with the Eastern Igbos. Some even called out "saboteurs" so the Soldiers could identify and kill, imprison or torture them.

Sorry this is a flat out lie. Most people in the East didnt even conspire with the Biafrans although they wanted out of nigeria too. And please give me evidence of the Mid-western civilian Igbo conspiring with the Biafrans. And you constantly talk about Igbos what of the Ijaw in the midwest? Do you know what they were doing during the war?

However, there one thing I must point out, the killing of civilians cannot be justified. But then again, it was a civilian to civilian battle for the control of the MW.

It was not a civilian to civilian battle. You are officially not from Delta state. Stay out of anything MIdwestern or Delta State. We all know you are not Bendle but yoruba.
Re: Forgotten War Crimes And Crimes Against Humanity Against Eastern Nigerians. by Chyz2: 6:48pm On Nov 17, 2011
Dawgpound:

Alj Harem, throwing Saro Wiwa's sins against the Igbo and Biafrans @ my face is just not going to work because he came back and apologized. The Ogoni don't even own any part of PH so what concerns us with Ikwerre, Igbo and Ijo ppl? Ogoni ppl did not take properties from Igbo ppl. Saro Wiwa is just 1 Ogoni man and his actions can't be used against us. We are not responsible for whatever he did. Kobani and Kogbara were both Ogoni and fought for Biafra just like my family stood for Biafra so please FALL BACK. I have had this discussion with Igbos who think the Ogoni as a people fought against Biafra. All Eastern minorities should not be branded anti-Biafra due to actions of Adaka an Ijaw Boro or Wiwa an Ogoni.

As for your Boko Haram loving Kanuri brothers allegedly getting killed @ the mosque, it your responsibility to seek justice for them not mine. I am not Kanuri neither did I even have knowledge of poor Kanuri people getting oppressed by the army who are majority Hausa-Fulani and Kanuri. If in your culture its okay to slaughter humans and move on then that's just your problem. In my culture we speak up against injustice. Jews, Armenians are still seeking justice. Jews in particular have gone as far as hunting former Nazis physically so what is wrong about us.

The men who killed, maimed and destroyed Ogoni land must be brought to book and made to pay.

Igbos, Efik, Annang, Ijaw, also owe it to themselves to do the same.

You don't think I'm Ogoni? LOL! No I am Tiv.

Well done. cool

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