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Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by Kukutenla: 10:54am On Apr 11 |
cyrusmillz:When has that happened that the Olubadan designate was declared not fit for the throne 1 Like |
Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by Raf4: 10:55am On Apr 11 |
MT: Exactly. |
Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by Raf4: 11:19am On Apr 11 |
FreeStuffsNG: The blackmailer and mischievous one here is Ajibola, the otun balogun, who wants to upsurp Olakulehin. He wants to becomes Olubadan without waiting for his time. Olakulehin is not the first or only next in line to be stricken in age b4 being crowned Olubadan. It happened to Yesufu Oloyed Asanke (90+), Emmanuel Adeyemo Operinde1 (89yrs), Samuel Odugade Osunlana (93yrs) etc before they became Olubadan and they reigned for 12, 6 & 9 years respectively. 1 Like |
Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by adioolayi(m): 11:35am On Apr 11 |
Raf4: The 2nd in command of Olubadan is Otun Olubadan and Balogun of Ibadan land. An Otun Balogun or Osi Olubadan CANNOT become Olubadan before the two. It's not possible |
Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by Raf4: 11:46am On Apr 11 |
adioolayi: If you read the link you attached very well, you will understand that Omiyale from Balogin line was to succeed Odulana from Otun line. But his death paved way for Omo Aje Ogunguniso from the same Balogun line to become Olubadan. It was never shifted to Otun line. Lekan Balogun succeeded Omowale Kuye as Otun Olubadan, and eventually became Olubadan in place of Kuye from the same Otun line. |
Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by Raf4: 11:59am On Apr 11 |
adioolayi: You're right. Both Otun and Balogun are 2nd in command to Olubadan. But if a current Olubadan is from Balogun line the de facto 2-i-C and next in line will be current Otun, while current Balogun will be the head of Balogun line. In this case, the next Olubadan must strictly come from Otun line. If the current Olubadan is from Otun line, the de facto 2-i-C and next in line will be current Balogun, while current Otun will be head of Otun line. In this case, the next Olubadan must strictly come from Balogun line. |
Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by obaidan: 12:04pm On Apr 11 |
drawingbook: Na weytin ladoja no want be ds. |
Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by adioolayi(m): 12:18pm On Apr 11 |
Raf4: Oba Aje Ogungunniso wouldn't have become an Olubadan ahead of Kuye...with the demise of Omiyale. Either would have been Olubadan ahead of him. There is no double promotion...you can't jump a line |
Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by Raf4: 1:34pm On Apr 11 |
adioolayi: My point is that after Olubadan Odulana from Otun side, the next in line was Balogun side and that was what happened in the case of Aje Ogunguniso, who eventually became Olubadan from Balogun line. They didn't cross to Otun line to pick Olubadan because of deaths of his seniors in the same Balogun line. If Kuye (Otun) hadn't died, it would still not have stopped Aje Ogunguniso from becoming Olubadan because it was the turn of Balogun line. |
Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by adioolayi(m): 1:38pm On Apr 11 |
Raf4: May God grant High Chief Olakulehin longevity and perfect health. I would have loved this to be tested again...and we will see if the next Olubadan would have been the Otun Olubadan Oladoja or the Otun Balogun who is next in Balogun line after Olakunleyin. Let's stop the back and forth. Ilu Ibadan a gbe gbogbo wa o 1 Like |
Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by LegendHero(m): 2:06pm On Apr 11 |
DMerciful: I be IB boy. No mind me. I no sabi wetin to talk ni. They all know they must follow the tradition and the new Olubadan must assume that mantle. Ladoja only reiterated what everybody knew already. 1 Like |
Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by illicit(m): 2:13pm On Apr 11 |
Time will tell |
Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by bull67: 2:33pm On Apr 11 |
davies:ajimobi created all this wahala |
Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by PHAYOL81: 3:43pm On Apr 11 |
Seems the position of the chiefs varies. I hope the oncoming king have a lasting reign even though some antagonists may have to be appeased one way or another. |
Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by unitysheart(m): 3:45pm On Apr 11 |
drawingbook: Yes. It leaves that line. |
Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by unitysheart(m): 3:47pm On Apr 11 |
emmanbol: There is a military and civil line. Yes, you rise through the ranks but the different lines take turns to become Lubadan. |
Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by unitysheart(m): 3:47pm On Apr 11 |
Difrent: NO |
Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by jabor4Naija(m): 4:37pm On Apr 11 |
FreeStuffsNG: Thank you for taking your time to explain this in details, I didn't know. Thank you so much, now I have learned something today 1 Like |
Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by Difrent: 8:10pm On Apr 11 |
Kukutenla:It's a lie , Ladoja initially stalled claiming the other Obas didn't attend the meeting he called. Baba is just being unnecessarily paranoid and thinks the reforms is aimed at him which is far from the truth |
Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by Kukutenla: 8:27pm On Apr 11 |
Difrent:What reforms are you referring to self Ladoja as tradition demands called a meeting of the chiefs and only few attended yet you're blaming him for stalling 1 Like |
Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by Difrent: 5:10am On Apr 12 |
Kukutenla: The reforms of the Olubadan stool. He thinks it's targeted at him but it isn't. He refused the reforms during Ajimobi lying that it's because Ajimobi initiated it and got Makinde to do his bidding then. Then the Olubadan in council revisited the reforms and made recommendation to Makinde, still he refused any reforms but by this time he has no leverage on Makinde again and lost out. Baba is just making trouble where there is none. |
Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by Difrent: 5:12am On Apr 12 |
unitysheart: And the other line will just be looking, una see why reforms is necessary. Baba Ladoja should allow the reforms stay, they are not targeted at him |
Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by BALLOSKI: 5:51am On Apr 12 |
Difrent:They'd definitely pick from the line of the bedridden Olubadan designate if he dies? If by virtue of his health, he doesn't stay long or couldn't ascend the throne, it moves to the next line. Simple! I'd really want to see Ladoja on that throne. |
Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by Difrent: 5:58am On Apr 12 |
BALLOSKI: So that others can make the trouble he is making now for him too. He has not been going for meetings so if he becomes Olubadan who will attend his meetings? The man no even know the implications of what he is doing. No be everything you go dey show say you stubborn and you are not even a saint. If God wish he will become Olubadan but he should calm down. What if he gets there and die the next day..... haven't you heard of an Olubadan that was announced as a designated and died before his coronation. |
Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by cyrusmillz: 1:37pm On Apr 12 |
Kukutenla: I don't think I've heard it before, I'm only saying , since there's a procedure , if he's not fit or doesn't want to , then the next in line should ascend , since there are laid down rules. |
Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by Kukutenla: 2:29pm On Apr 12 |
cyrusmillz:If he doesn't want to, the next in line will be Ladojafrom the civil line not the Balogun line The olubadan ascending is in order of seniority not just line |
Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by RealLordZeus(m): 8:56am On Apr 13 |
Odidigboigbo: Exactly what an elderly friend told me yesterday but still my position remain the same.. |
Re: Ladoja Faults The Position Of Some Ibadan Chiefs On Olubadan Stool by Johnn78: 9:39pm On Apr 20 |
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