afam4eva:

Keep deceiving yourself.

decieving what

WAHT DOES EGUSI MEAN IN IGBO ?

I can tell you what it means in yoruba

gotten from senegalist as agushi and the yorubas named it as egusi

how did igbos get it ?

who is deceiving who ?

What of Moi-Moi or akara, were they all igbo food as well

What of Apon of the yorubas which the benins call obounu, was it Igbo as well

apart from Isi ewu which everyone LOVES I can thing of any other food.

I am waiting

alj_harem:

decieving what

WAHT DOES EGUSI MEAN IN IGBO ?

I can tell you what it means in yoruba

gotten from senegalist as agushi and the yorubas named it as egusi

how did igbos get it ?

who is deceiving who ?

So, what's the meaning of egusi in Yoruba?

alj_harem:


apart from Isi ewu which everyone LOVES I can thing of any other food.

Then you must either be ignorant or you're not telling yourself the truth. Do you want to tell me you don't know that Okro, bitter-leaf soup, oha, ogbono etc are Igbo delicasies.

afam4eva:

So, what's the meaning of egusi in Yoruba?

Then you must either be ignorant or you're not telling yourself the truth. Do you want to tell me you don't know that[b] Okro, bitter-leaf soup, oha, ogbono etc are Igbo delicasies.[/b]

The rest of Southern Nigeria copied these delicacies from Igbos, right?

Just to set the records straight, Egusi, Ogbono/apon, are not original igbo foods. Yes the Igbos might have modified it to taste better but did not start from them.

It started with the yorubas in Nigeria and was introduced to the igbos and hausawa.

Edikiong we all know is calabar food

Tuwo shikafa is Hausa and fulani food

Isi ewu is Igbo

Banga soup is Itsekiri

Eba/amala is yoruba food

Pounded yam/Iyan was dated back to the 1700 in the Yagba district present day Kogi

akara and Moi-moi are yoruba foods

jollof rice is Yoruba I don't know of fried which is likly chinese

alj_harem:

Just to set the records straight, Egusi, Ogbono/apon, are not original igbo foods. Yes the Igbos might have modified it to taste better but did not start from them.

It started with the yorubas in Nigeria and was introduced to the igbos and hausawa.

Edikiong we all know is calabar food

Tuwo shikafa is Hausa and fulani food

Isi ewu is Igbo

Banga soup is Itsekiri

Eba/amala is yoruba food

Pounded yam/Iyan was dated back to the 1700 in the Yagba district present day Kogi

akara and Moi-moi are yoruba foods

jollof rice is Yoruba I don't know of fried which is likly chinese

Have you forgotten that burger and pizza originated in the old oyo empire? I no fit laugh. You're one very funny clown.

afam4eva:

So, what's the meaning of egusi in Yoruba?

Then you must either be ignorant or you're not telling yourself the truth. Do you want to tell me you don't know that Okro, bitter-leaf soup, oha, ogbono etc are Igbo delicasies.

dude did I not tell u it was gotten from  senegal and was called agushi which the yorubas changed to EGUSI which mean crush the seed more

Now what does it mean in Igbo ? and there are links, i brought out. did you read them or u just want to display ur ignorance here.

Ogbono which is called Apon in yoruba has been there way before colonisation

afam4eva:

Have you forgotten that burger and pizza originated in the old oyo empire? I no fit laugh. You're one very funny clown.

shut it and stop turning it into a JOKE. you are clearly ignorant and you can not back up ur claims

EGUSI WAS NOT AN IGBOS FOOD

Ofe egusi is not igbo but because of Nigeria, you learnt how to make egusi

Egusi was from sengal and was introduced to the yorubas and fulani NOT IGBOS

what does EGUSI mean in Igbo. too many false claims is annoying

Just to show you that Ogbono/Apon did NOT ORGINATE FROM IGBO

read this, the Lucumis of brazil discussed about it

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=EJzHiqBPJCoC&pg=PA65&dq=okro+soup+yoruba&hl=en&ei=iynNTtyRH8aY8QOIzbzGDw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CEIQ6AEwAjgK#v=onepage&q=okro%20soup%20yoruba&f=false

For yoruba folk who have lost touch with there history

there is a yoruba song/ folk tale has has dated back 600-1 thousand years ago

and even benin republic people and togo still sing the song today

tell me how can ogbono/apon come from igbo when back them there was not contact with igbos

[flash=300,300]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCWVipbM-aU&feature=related[/flash]

even in brazil they still give credit for apon intorduced by the yorubas

in my previous link, it is there

here is another one

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=g9Uu6fLlbuMC&pg=PA60&dq=okro+soup+yoruba&hl=en&ei=GizNTrbCN4mP8gOM7fzGDw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CDYQ6AEwADgU#v=onepage&q=okro%20soup%20yoruba&f=false

Egusi is native to Igbos. Read this: http://www.imdiversity.com/villages/global/Global_Kitchen/EgusiSoup.asp

By Chidi Asika-Enahoro

yorubas making Okro soup

now someone is tell me otherwise

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=ddL44UDqyu8C&pg=PA55&dq=okro+soup+yoruba&hl=en&ei=GizNTrbCN4mP8gOM7fzGDw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CEEQ6AEwAjgU#v=onepage&q=okro%20soup%20yoruba&f=false

I also curled this from wikipedia:

ọgbọnọ (Igbo)/apọn (Yorùbá), or ewédú

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eba

afam4eva:

Egusi is native to Igbos. Read this: http://www.imdiversity.com/villages/global/Global_Kitchen/EgusiSoup.asp

dude don't show me links that the person is propably ignorant about

I brought out link from brazil to england to america to senegal to Nigeria and northern Nigeria you ar showing a cook book who NEVER STUDIED HISTORY

Moreove this what you link said "especially" What does that tell you ? Does it say it orignated from there

afam4eva:

I also curled this from wikipedia:

ọgbọnọ (Igbo)/apọn (Yorùbá), or ewédú

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eba

Ogbono is apon and that is why I said ogbono DID NOT ORIGINATE FOR ALAIGBO

lets talk of egusi here

what does it mean in Igbo Language ?

EGUSI IS NOT EVEN AN IGBO WORD, A SCHOLAR OF HISTORY SAID it is either Yoruba or Hausa

Lost Crops of Africa: Vegetables By National Research Council (U.S.). Board on Science and Technology for International Development

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=mllZm3CChGIC&pg=PA155&lpg=PA155&dq=egusi+yoruba&source=bl&ots=7qjtTDgeKN&sig=LQA63OUatjYs5wzhlzElyb0BG1g&hl=en&ei=_y3NToDLM8q28QPF-rXkDw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9&sqi=2&ved=0CGkQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=egusi%20yoruba&f=false

afam4eva:

Egusi is native to Igbos. Read this: http://www.imdiversity.com/villages/global/Global_Kitchen/EgusiSoup.asp

Egusi is native to Yoruba. Read this : http://www.cometonigeria.com/nigerian-food-and-drinks/treat-yourself-with-finger-licking-egusi-soup

1 Watermelon is also an African native.

. 2 In Ghana and a few other countries it is called “neri.” Egusi (some think the term derives from Yoruba; some from Hausa) has become the generic name for the seed across West Africa’s many linguistic boundaries.

For details, see companion volume on the fruits of Africa

Bitter Leaf soup is native to igbo as well

igbos call it Ofe Onugbu

soup is different from stew

Citrullus lanatus (Thunb.) Matsum. & Nakai

Protologue
Cat. Sem. Spor. Hort. Bot. Univ. Imp. Tokyo 30: No 854 (1916).
Family
Cucurbitaceae
Chromosome number
2n = 22
Synonyms
Momordica lanata Thunb. (1794), Citrullus vulgaris Schrad. ex Eckl. & Zeyh. (1836), Colocynthis citrullus (L.) Kuntze (1891).
Vernacular names
– Egusi melon, egusi watermelon, West African watermelon (En). Pastèque égousi, melon à pistache (Fr).
– Watermelon, dessert watermelon (En). Pastèque (Fr). Melancia (Po). Mtikiti, mtikiti maji (Sw).
– Cooking melon, fodder melon, preserving melon, citron (En). Pastèque à cuire, pastèque fourragère, citre, méréville (Fr).


Origin and geographic distribution

Citrullus lanatus originates from the western Kalahari region of Namibia and Botswana, where it can still be found in the wild in a diversity of forms together with other Citrullus species. In this region there are two major types, one with small fruits that are generally bitter and mainly used for their seeds, called ‘tsama melon’. This is the probable ancestor of egusi melon. The other type has fruits that are mainly used as a source of water during periods of drought or as cooking melons, and may well represent the ancestral form of the watermelon, fodder melon and cooking melon. Following first domestication of Citrullus lanatus in southern Africa in prehistoric times, its cultivation became widespread in Mediterranean Africa, the Middle East and West Asia more than 3000 years ago. Introduction into India must also have occurred in ancient times and here a strong secondary centre of genetic diversity developed. Citrullus lanatus reached China around the 10th century and Japan in the 16th century. It was introduced to the Americas in early post -Columbian times.

Egusi melon, grown for its seed, has probably been domesticated in the southern Sahel zone or in regions surrounding the Kalahari desert. It is especially important in West Africa. People in Namibia and Botswana still harvest most of their seeds from the wild, but some landraces have been selected specifically for their oil-rich seed. Cultivars grown in western Sudan are probably of the same type as the egusi melon of West Africa. Seed melons are also important in China.
Watermelon is now widespread in all tropical, subtropical and warm temperate (hot summers) regions of the world, including Africa. Cooking melons are mainly found in the northern and eastern parts of the Kalahari desert. Fodder melon is mainly grown in the United States and South Africa.

Uses
Citrullus lanatus comprises overlapping groups of cultivars that yield seed or edible fruits. Fruits of wild or semi-wild plants are used in the Kalahari region as a source of drinking water. The same use is reported from Sudan. Other primitive forms are used as forage.

Most important in Africa are cultivars of which the only edible portion are the seeds. The fruit pulp of these cultivars is too bitter for human consumption. In West Africa they are called ‘egusi’, derived from the Yoruba language; in Wolof language (Senegal) they are called ‘beref’. In the Kalahari region, the seeds are considered a delicacy. After roasting, they are ground into a coarse, whitish meal, which is nutritious and pleasantly nutty-tasting. In West Africa the seeds are made into pulp and added as thickener to soups. They are also fermented to produce a sweetener locally called ‘ogiri’ or they are roasted, pounded, wrapped in leaves and then boiled to produce another sweetener called ‘igbãlo’. The pulp of roasted and salted seeds is eaten in Sudan and Egypt, where it is called ‘tasali’. In the far northern parts of Sudan seeds of some types are eaten whole, including the seedcoat, after being roasted; these are called ‘gorom’. A highly prized vegetable oil is extracted from the seed. This oil is used for cooking and for cosmetic purposes and is of interest to the pharmaceutical industry. The residue from oil extraction is made into balls that are fried to produce a local snack called ‘robo’ in Nigeria, or is used as cattle feed. The oil is used in making soups and in Namibia it has traditionally been used for making soap. The seeds can be roasted to make a substitute for coffee.
Many cultivars are grown as a vegetable crop for fresh consumption of the refreshingly juicy and sweet flesh of the mature fruit. In most parts of the world the watermelon is the most important type of Citrullus lanatus.
In several African countries, local non-sweet, non-bitter cultivars are used as cooking melon, e.g. in Kenya, Namibia, Botswana and Zimbabwe. Related types in Sudan are sometimes referred to as ‘citron’ or ‘citronnel’. Young fruits from which the seeds have been removed are cooked until they are soft. In Zimbabwe the cooked melons are mixed with cooked beans or cowpeas, and powdered seeds of bottle gourd are added. To preserve the fruit flesh, the seeds and rind are removed and slices are dried in the sun. A stiff porridge is made from mature fruits mixed with maize or pearl millet flour. The leaves are occasionally used as a cooked vegetable. In the United States the rind of some cultivars is made into pickle or a sweet preserve. In the south of France, the preserving melon or citron is popular for jams. In the extensive farming systems of semi-arid regions, leaves and fruits of fodder melons are a source of forage and water for livestock.[b] The fruits are used as a drastic purgative in Senegal; they are diuretic and used to treat diarrhoea and gonorrhoea in Nigeria. [/b]Tar is extracted from the seeds and used for the treatment of scabies and for skin tanning.




http://database.prota.org/PROTAhtml/Citrullus%20lanatus_En.htm

I am an Igbo girl and want to cook a yoruba soup called egusi using the Igbo style

http://naijamaican.co.uk/Recipes.aspx

Have soups become that ancient that their origins are unknown?

Egusi is a type of melon. The soup is prepared using the melon seeds.
"Egusi soup is original to the Igbo people of South East Nigeria" http://www.imdiversity.com/villages/global/Global_Kitchen/EgusiSoup.asp

Okra soup is also Igbo. In fact the English word "Okra" was adopted from the Igbo "Okwuru".

Bitter leaf soup (aka Ofe Olugbu/Ofe Onugbu) is of Igbo origin.

Ogbono/Ogbolo originates from the Igbos and the Cross River peoples.

odumchi:

Have soups become that ancient that their origins are unknown?

Egusi is a type of melon. The soup is prepared using the melon seeds.
"Egusi soup is original to the Igbo people of South East Nigeria" http://www.imdiversity.com/villages/global/Global_Kitchen/EgusiSoup.asp

Okra soup is also Igbo. In fact the English word "Okra" was adopted from the Igbo "Okwuru".

Bitter leaf soup (aka Ofe Olugbu/Ofe Onugbu) is of Igbo origin.

Ogbono/Ogbolo originates from the Igbos and the Cross River peoples.

I am highly disappointed at you MOD

from the same website as Afam4eve

afam4eva:

Egusi is native to Igbos. Read this: http://www.imdiversity.com/villages/global/Global_Kitchen/EgusiSoup.asp

Very diappointed that you people would go to a cooking website instead of a history book

SMH

well this is my own silly website as well

alj harem:

I am an Igbo girl and want to cook a yoruba soup called egusi using the Igbo style

http://naijamaican.co.uk/Recipes.aspx

you can't change the fact that EGUSI IS NOT IGBO, IT WAS INTRODUCED BY THE HAUSA AND YORUBA(ESPECIALLY)

WHAT DOES EGUSI MEAN IN IGBO

Ofe onugbo is Igbo we know that. because yorubas and hausa don't eat bitter leaf soup unless mixed with normal spinah or a very little added to egusi

Melon is also called Ngbam, like they do in my own neck of the Igbo wood.

Probably the western Igbo who were migrating eastward may have learnt another word for it or the yorubas learnt it from them.

My point is that melon(ngbam) is indigenous to Igbo, maybe the additional name might have been borrowed somewhere.

mbatuku2:

Melon is also called Ngbam, like they do in my own neck of the Igbo wood.

Probably the western Igbo who were migrating eastward may have learnt another word for it or the yorubas learnt it from them.

My point is that melon(ngbam) is indigenous to Igbo, maybe the additional name might have been borrowed somewhere.

True, ngbam is igbo word for melon but melon seed is different. I am glad you are honest

yorubas did not learn it from them

Nigeria did not know egusi before the yorubas and hausawa

@Alj Haram,

Egusi soup is purely Igbo,sorry man. Here I'll allow you to do some browsing:

http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0oG7k8VN81OUCsAIxhXNyoA?p=egusi%20is%20igbo&fr2=sb-top&fr=yfp-t-701

Pounded yam/Iyan was dated back to the 1700 in the Yagba district present day Kogi

pounded yam seems more like it originated in the ekiti or maybe ondo region.


unless it was brought to these areas by people resettling or early migrants from there.

alj harem:

True, ngbam is igbo word for melon but melon seed is different. I am glad you are honest

yorubas did not learn it from them

Nigeria did not know egusi before the yorubas and hausawa

Do you realize that some Igbo once occupied that current territory known as yorubaland?

Igbos have been growing ngbam(egusi) before the start of Nri dynasty in the 9th century C.E, so I dont know what you are talking about.

Do you realize that some Igbo once occupied that current territory known as yorubaland?

when was that.

Chyz*:

@Alj Haram,

Egusi soup is purely Igbo,sorry man. Here I'll allow you to do some browsing:

http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0oG7k8VN81OUCsAIxhXNyoA?p=egusi%20is%20igbo&fr2=sb-top&fr=yfp-t-701

dude shut it

it as an Igbo tradition gotten from the yorubas. ask ur fore-fathers

HOW CAN A FOOD NOT HAVE ANY MEANING IN YOUR LANGUAGE AND YET U CLAIM IT

How can a food that every scholar and slave masters back then knew it was not igbo but yoruba and hausa and yet u call it igbo

stop decieving urself