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Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Janosky: 12:27am On May 21 |
FxMasterz: FX Masterz, the Slave of Trinity said his fellow Trinitarians Biblehub are unintelligent because the same ghost leading all Trinitarians gave Biblehub the correct rendition of John 10:33 proven is "a god" in small letter. Go & convince Biblehub your fellow Trinitarians & stop capping GIBBERISH. |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by johnw47: 2:22am On May 21 |
Janosky: Ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool talk about a dunce most dum and lost fraud jw janosky it takes more words in the english language to translate from hebrew and greek to make the scriptures more easily understandable, that is not adding to God's word. adding or taking away from God's word is to change the meaning of God's word. with false jw's adding "other" to col 1:16-17 four times, you changed the meaning of the scripture, original text say: "by Him all things were created" false jw nwt text say: "by means of him all other things were created" meaning that some thing or things were created without Him (the Word/Jesus Christ) john 1:3 also shows that the Word/Jesus created all things but false jw's missed changing that one: Joh 1:3 All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. ^^ nothing/no other thing, was created without the Word/Jesus Christ honest translation: nas Col 1:16 For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through Him and for Him. Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. perverted translation: nwt 16 because by means of him all other things were created in the heavens and on the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All other things have been created through him and for him. 17 Also, he is before all other things,s and by means of him all other things were made to exist, Pro 30:6 Do not add to His words Or He will reprove you, and you will be proved a liar. Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies. Mat 15:9 'BUT IN VAIN DO THEY WORSHIP ME, TEACHING AS DOCTRINES THE PRECEPTS OF MEN.' false jw's are not only wrong, but then they call names such a evil lot 4 Likes |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by MightySparrow: 7:53am On May 21 |
Janosky: According to you. Your organization is the only one doing the will of God in an imperfect way, shey? 2 Likes |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by MightySparrow: 7:57am On May 21 |
Janosky: Rom.13.1 - Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Note the bolded, is that in your Bible? Oh I forgot, NWT may have doctored to suit your interpretation. 1 Like |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Emusan(m): 8:48am On May 21 |
Janosky: Good this is what we're talking about. Since, you know this, then KJV is right to have inserted the Word 'God' in 1 Tim 3:16 I know you don't have sense...but I'm waiting for you dull head. 1 Like |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Emusan(m): 8:51am On May 21 |
Janosky: The JaNosense doesn't have the gut to answer the simple question. Are you a Christian? At least you said your deluded brother is right, so tell me if you're a Christian. 2 Likes |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 9:28am On May 21 |
Janosky: Why are you always talking unintelligently? Did you go to school at all? So Biblehub has become the authority on biblical interpretations for Christians? My friend go find a secondary school to attend. 2 Likes |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 9:32am On May 21 |
Janosky: How did that change the message that verse is passing across? Does it change the message the same way your NWT transitions attempt insetting a new message into an old verse? 3 Likes |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 9:33am On May 21 |
Emusan: Gbam! You said it. The janosky hypocrite has been confirmed to be one indeed. 3 Likes |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 9:35am On May 21 |
achorladey: Lol. All of them lack integrity. Maxindhouse is just an example of all JWs. Always talking from both sides of the mouth. 2 Likes |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 9:41am On May 21 |
Janosky: Lover of falsehood janosky the hypocrite. Have you checked to see that those men of God just posted in the screenshots were widely concerned for their wrong doctrines. Whatever a person says is measured against the written word and judged by all christians worldwide. The fellow is called to order and he or she retraces his steps. This is different from your deception and falsehood loving organization which forces untruth on its followers, and the followers embrace it as the word of God and even gp to any length to defend what is obviously contrary to the Bible as you're doing today. 2 Likes |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Aemmyjah(m): 10:28am On May 21 |
FxMasterz: The KJV did not mention that their translation has errors. It is other translation that said the KJV has errors but they did not remove all of them. If KJV has to be accurate and respect God's words, they have to remove the errors. Could this be the reason why the OP who himself has been a malicious liar towards Jehovah's Witnesses think that we manipulated the Bible. Thank God we don't and we did not allow the fear of what people will say to stop us. You're not reasonable to use erroneous translation to judge our Bible. You say KJV has errors and the admitted it (which they didn't but you don't know what you say with your nonsense) so which ones are the errors if I may ask Mention any translator that say their own translation has errors. We're the only translation that has profound respect for the Bible and return the Divine name in every place it was found cos we won't replace it with mere titles so the reader can know God's name. The only translation with the most widely translated Bible. The only translation where anyone today can get the the Bible in his own language for free. In Madagascar, if you want to buy KJV, you have to sacrifice your salary for that month. Whereas we give it free. Envy will not kill you |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Aemmyjah(m): 10:33am On May 21 |
MightySparrow: See this old man Is it the GB that translated it? Mention one current living Bible translator without visiting Google Who cares about their names? What matters is reading God's word not who translated it Oh, I can only remember Ajayi Crowder translated the Bible into Yoruba (Maxindhouse, is that correct) and some parts of his translations are not accurate If Winners Chapel should release their own Bible, would say it was Oye that learned Greek n Hebrew and translated it Use your head |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Aemmyjah(m): 10:34am On May 21 |
MightySparrow: What is your problem with Russell |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 10:35am On May 21 |
Aemmyjah: My dear, we used original Greek interlinear translations to judge your Bible and found it to be a fabrication of falsehood. Again, do you justify your erroneous translations because KJV also has errors? Did your organization not confess to be an organizer forcing its errors on people? What are you defending? Did the KJV ever force itself on anyone. Is the use of KJV not by choice? Did they ever claim to be the most accurate Bible translation? Is that not what your satanic organization claims? Do they not force their errors on you? Don't you go about defending your errors? Did the KJV ever deny or defended themselves to be without errors? 2 Likes
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Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Aemmyjah(m): 11:06am On May 21 |
FxMasterz: 😂 I laugh at you That statement is about some previous misunderstanding on dates Not on the Bible translation Now my question 1. Did the KJV say that their own translation has any error as you said? If yes, show it. If no, you're an ignorant liar 2. If other Bible translations said that their translation came up cos the KJV which was the most popular has errors, is it proper for their own version to have the same errors or they should remove it? 3. If a translator notices that certain words or verses were not in reliable original manuscripts but are in nearly 100% of all the modern Bibles. Should he allow those verses to be in the translation, or he should put them in italics (like some translations too) or he should remove them? 4. Is it proper to use the KJV which other translation says has errors as well as these same translations to judge what is written in the NWT? If not, how do you decide which is accurate 5. Without using Google,What are the general 3 criteria in Bible translation 6. Mention the most accurate translation or the most nearly accurate translation Olodo You say we're falsehood. Mention the group that has the truth, you can't mention You say our Bible is incorrect, mention the correct one, you can't mention Envy will keep you |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 11:23am On May 21 |
Aemmyjah: I asked you questions which you ignored. Answer my questions and stop playing hide and seek! Your questions are useless because we already told you KJV is not our standard. We use several versions of scriptures together in Bible study to eliminate potential translation errors. We look up strong's concordance and interlinear bible to confirm correct translations. None of the various versions claim to be the most accurate! Your Bible fails in all of the above and still goes ahead to force itself on its adherents. Answer my questions! 2 Likes |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Aemmyjah(m): 11:24am On May 21 |
MightySparrow: Where did the GB say they are inspired? What about Oye that said Nigeria would Nigeria indeed became world power |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Aemmyjah(m): 11:26am On May 21 |
FxMasterz: J If KJV is not your standard then I guess your standard is accurate. Kindly mention na... Only a foolish person will use the same language to judge a translation. If I translate something from Efik to English and other people seem to be different. Should you use the other English translation or from the original language? That's what my brother Janosky is trying to do but your envy has made your head hot |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Aemmyjah(m): 11:29am On May 21 |
FxMasterz: Have you first used it to eliminate or see the error in the King James and other translations Will you use other translation that follow the KJV in it's errors to judge the NWT See as u just de zuzu like small pikin Now, list the several Bible accurate translation you use aa standard |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 11:30am On May 21 |
Aemmyjah: That's how foolish your organization is to have used English versions as the basis for your translations. Answer my questions or you want me to ask you again? We use interlinear translations okay? We don't depend on any one version. Get that into you. 3 Likes |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 11:35am On May 21 |
Aemmyjah: Will you stop this boring nonesense about KJV? Did KJV force themselves on you or ask you to get their version as the only accurate version? What's happening with your head? You've been so messed up! We are readers and students of the Bible. We're not translators. Ours is to get the best out of every version. It is human to have errors. But to force your errors on others and still claim to be error free is satanic! If your organization is not guilty of this sin, they would not be called out even though they have errors. Answer the questions I asked. Stop dribbling. 2 Likes |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Aemmyjah(m): 11:36am On May 21 |
FxMasterz: Here is a list of some common English Bible translations: 1. King James Version (KJV) - 1611 2. American Standard Version (ASV) - 1901 3. Revised Standard Version (RSV) - 1952 4. New American Standard Bible (NASB) - 1963 5. New International Version (NIV) - 1978 6. New King James Version (NKJV) - 1982 7. English Standard Version (ESV) - 2001 8. Christian Standard Bible (CSB) - 2017 (formerly Holman Christian Standard Bible, HCSB) 9. New Revised Standard Version (NRSV) - 1989 10. The Message (MSG) - 1993 (a paraphrased version) 11. Amplified Bible (AMP) - 1965 12. New Living Translation (NLT) - 1996 13. Contemporary English Version (CEV) - 1995 14. The Clear Word Bible (TCWB) - 1994 15. God's Word (GW) - 1995 16. International Standard Version (ISV) - 1998 17. New American Bible (NAB) - 1970 18. Revised English Bible (REB) - 1989 19. The Voice (VOICE) - 2012 20. Young's Literal Translation (YLT) - 1862 Which one(s) is accurate A. One of some. Then mention B. Some of them. Then mention C. All of them. Do their translators agree that the KJV which is one of the oldest and most popular is accused of having errors. Where are the errors and what has been done to the errors in their own translation If the correct ones are not listed above. Kindly mention or remain ignorant |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Aemmyjah(m): 11:44am On May 21 |
FxMasterz: Liar A big fat lie The OP was trying to shame us but your folly has been revealed like sunshine and you're talking nonsense. OP was Trying to discredit the NWT not says that it was most accurate Have you ever seen anyone or did the OP tell you that these interlinear translations acknowledge that KJV has errors but they still did not do anything Does that make any sense? We have never ever stopped anyone from using other translations. We have a lot of them even in our library Personally, in my ministry, I encourage my students to read from their own Bible and we have used and printed other translations over the years. You're not translators but you want to judge another translation shey? Cos you have seen that it your own own interlinear translations that have fault by failing to remove errors cos of fear of public uproar, you now say it is human to make errors. This is just your level of intelligence and it's shameful on a old man like you Now mention one translation that say it's not error free |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 11:47am On May 21 |
Aemmyjah: Does your organization force your translation on its adherents? Yes or no.? Do you use other versions in your cult? Yes or no? Does your organization claim to be the most accurate? Yes or no? 3 Likes
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Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 11:49am On May 21 |
Aemmyjah: Hypocrite, are you also a dullard like janosky? No one is claiming complete accuracy. The fault of your organization is them claiming accuracy and forcing their manipulated and deliberately falsified Bible on their followers! 4 Likes |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Aemmyjah(m): 12:05pm On May 21 |
FxMasterz: Is the Bible accurate or not Which translation is not claiming accuracy? Why is every Bible translation today being revised Where have our organization forced us to only study the NWT? You're a malicious liar Till date, even in our publications, we still reference to the wordings of other translations including the KJV If there's anyone that forcing people to accept their own Bible, it's the KJV cos they have the KJV MOVEMENT Go to Wikipedia and check the List of New Testament verses not included in modern English translations Compare to OP then apologize to us later Only a fool will believe everything na Go and do that assignment Or should I drop links for you? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_New_Testament_verses_not_included_in_modern_English_translations?wprov=sfla1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Textual_variants_in_the_New_Testament#List_of_major_textual_variants_in_the_New_Testament?wprov=sfla1 You were trying to invalidate us, now that you've seen how foolish you've become. You now say another lie that they force the NWT on us. Why not cite where we said that. I use 3 different Bibles in my ministry. Stupid liar
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Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Courz: 12:09pm On May 21 |
Aemmyjah: Mumu. He has answered this question again and again. You don't rely solely on one Translation. This is why all the Bible verses I mentioned, I made sure to show as many translations as possible from Bible hub. I know that you know nothing about reading The Bible because Watchtower never teaches you how to. FxMasterz has said that other translations never made the claim of being accurate but your Cult has made that claim knowing fully well the manipulation they have done. Accuracy is left to the reader by comparing whatever translation you read with the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts. I created this thread solely to show everyone how far your Manipulated Bible has deviated from the meaning of words and messages in the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts. This is why we have websites you can use to make comparison to ensure you are reading the right message from the Bible directly from the interlinear. The Grave sin your Watchtower Cult has committed is changing words in the Bible that don't align with your Doctrines in order to give a different message completely different from all that is in the Hebrew and Greek Manuscripts. I have shown Bible verses where Almighty God has shown his anger against this act. For you to continue to argue for Manipulation of Bible verses means you have made your choice to receive the anger from Almighty God on Judgement day. 2 Likes |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Courz: 12:19pm On May 21 |
Aemmyjah: Why are you focusing on only the King James Version? In all the Verses I mentioned in this thread, did you see only king James Version? Your points are useless! I quoted as many translations as possible and you saw how a lot of them aligned with the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts. You are trying to deviate from the grave sin your Watchtower has done but it will never work! You have failed! Get this very clear! Watchtower changed , added or removed words from your Bible that don't align with your doctrines. They did this so that the verses can give a completely different message from that of the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts! This is the essence of this thread I created. Have other translations changed the message that is supposed to be contained in the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts? If there are translations that have done this, they have also committed the same sin which is why we have Bible websites to make comparison. If you can say other translations are doing the same therefore you are free to do it too, then they and your Cult are part of False Religion changing verses to push a different message from the Bible, telling you that you have no single argument. Your points are useless. You think you can use the King James Version as a shield against the Sin your Cult has committed. You have failed. And you have shown that you are indeed in support of Manipulated Bible verses. Remember, you will be judged by Almighty God for doing this. 2 Likes
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Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Aemmyjah(m): 12:21pm On May 21 |
Courz: 🎵 Liar liar, your pants are on fire You gat a nose as long as a telephone wire 🎵 One translation is enough to judge another one of it is accurate You used several but you cannot collectively say they are accurate Shame on you If you like, use a million interlinear translations, where there's an error which they refused to correct and there's changes in all of them , it is still inaccurate. It's like using lepers (some have several sores, some have just few) to judge if a man has leprosy or not What should you use to shame a translation whether it is the Bible or another literature? Other versions or the ancient copies from which they were translated Stupid liar You say JWs will go to hell cos they are lying. I don't want to go to hell so tell me where they they teach the truth since there's thousands. You cannot mention since, according to you, where 2 or 3 are gathered, they are a cult You say our Bible is fake and instead of using the Greek available manuscripts to invalidate us, you use other translations where they don't even agree on everything they say. See as you mumu. Now mention one true translation that is upholding God's word accurately, you cannot mention one. Just one but one has to use more than one according to you. Shame on you. You try to illegitimise us but you will like and share comments of temple333 who says that watching porn is good for him. Maybe that is what both of you will practice in your imaginary heaven Nonsense and ingredients |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Courz: 12:28pm On May 21 |
Aemmyjah: You are using other translations that have also committed the same sin to try to cover yours, you will have cause to answer to God when he decides to follow you up. You have no excuse to manipulate verses. You are not showing that you are the Only true religion by following other false religions. I will repeat myself, the sin your Watchtower committed is to change words, add words to change the message in a Bible verse they don't like just so that it can align with their doctrines. Many translations out there Haven't done this. This is why we have Bible websites to make comparison. Why is It that your Bible is never listed in any Bible site if it is really Accurate? Because the deviations in your Bible is too great and the Mistranslations are too many. They are made to suit your doctrines only. Since Watchtower has the guts to do this, the wrath of God is coming and you will have a share in it for supporting this despicable act. 2 Likes |
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Courz: 12:31pm On May 21 |
Aemmyjah: Why is It that your Watchtower has a very big problem with Almighty God Confirming that Jesus is God? Why? What do they have against Jesus? Why do they hate him? Almighty God confirmed he is God but Watchtower said No and went to scatter the Bible verse to say another thing that is meaningless! Every other translation including King James, said the same thing. Your Manipulated Bible said something else. Why are Watchtower disobeying God this way? 2 Likes |
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