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Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by Wizardslayer: 10:49am On May 23
aariwa:
Aguiyi wasn’t smart, was only a brave soldier. Nzeogwu, Madiebo and Ojukwu were far smarter than him . The way he opened his mouth to that food for a man at his level in life then that doesn’t have any business eating or drinking outside tells me a lot about him
Aguiyi was reckless a man. His daftness cost him his life. He couldn't see through the open deceitful acts of his fake friends.

The consequences of his careless lifestyle will take God's intervention to surmount.

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by AfonjaScud: 10:50am On May 23
gidgiddy:


You guys are funny, you say that it was Ironsi that abolished Region's, but say it had nothing to dobwith state creation? Is that not laughable?

You guys love peddling that lie. But unfortunately, this is internet age. Anyone can Google and see that it was Gowon that used Decree 14 to abolish all 4 Region's Nigeria had, and replace them with 12 states.


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If anyone tells you that Ironsi abolished Region's or introduced unitary rule, know that's its a big lie. It's not possible to have unitary rule where there is resource control, and it's not possible to abolish Region's without replacing it with something else. Ironsi never touched resource control, and the 4 Region's he met when he came in were still there the day he was killed. What Ironsi introduced was Military rule. The person who abolished the 4 Region's, and created 12 new states to replace them, was Gowon, with Decree 14. Gowon then introduced full blown unitary rule with Decree 15 that ended resource control. Below are Decree 14 and 15

Someone is suffering from mental sickness for a lame attempt at re-writing history.
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by AfonjaScud: 10:51am On May 23
aariwa:
So Aguiyi should be blamed because his predecessors continued his decree and couldn’t change it after 60 years and 15 presidents and blaming him sounds to you like your brain is still normal? The bitterness you people have nurtured over the years for the igbos as the reason why you are not successful has done a lot of damage to you people mental health and iif it continues like this the psychiatrist hospitals in your side cannot contain the fallout of what is about to happen in the next few years

Arrant nonsense.
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by NinjaMetahuman: 10:53am On May 23
DMerciful:
This is a lame argument you people refused to recover from because you wanna push Igbo hate.

Firstly, he stayed in power for 5months and unify the civil service 45 days before he was assassinated. If Nigeria did not want that policy, who enforced it after he was killed? Why did the new government not repeal the decree?

Secondly, when Ironsi was killed, it was still 4 regions renamed as 4 states. Why did Gowon divide the 4 states to 12 states making it impossible to reverse?
bala blue.

He was totally responsible.

The decree started the whole chain reaction.

You expect politicians to change what they are benefiting heavily from?

Do you know how hard it's to amend ordinary constitution? He killed a whole system of governance and you expect subsequent government to reverse it like it never happened.

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by AfonjaScud: 10:54am On May 23
Bridget95:
What stops Jagaban from using same executive powers to revert the nation to regional government.

How can you be so sickening mischievous ?

Does he have such powers In this democratic setting?

You people always like to either peddle like or try to criminally change a narrative when things do not go your way.

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by AfonjaScud: 10:56am On May 23
YorubaForum:

Illiteracy runs in your blood.

You actually know nothing about history, keep disgracing urself due to your hate for Igbos, this is why nothing is moving forward in your life, ode.

Gibberish.
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by assholemods: 10:58am On May 23
gidgiddy:


Where are we today as Igbos? It's all about quality of life. How many people in Nigeria can boast of having a better quality of life than the Igbo man?
What better quality of life do Igbos have?

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by AfonjaScud: 10:58am On May 23
AbujaCitiBlog:

The leadership incompetence of Ndigbo started from Nnamdi Azikiwe and continued here. Both Zik and Ironsi were poor leaders who never knew how to lead. If they had gotten their acts right, we wouldn't be where we are today as Igbos.

Both were victims of ethnic phobia.

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by Zionbel(m): 10:59am On May 23
DMerciful:
This is a lame argument you people refused to recover from because you wanna push Igbo hate.

Firstly, he stayed in power for 5months and unify the civil service 45 days before he was assassinated. If Nigeria did not want that policy, who enforced it after he was killed? Why did the new government not repeal the decree?

Secondly, when Ironsi was killed, it was still 4 regions renamed as 4 states. Why did Gowon divide the 4 states to 12 states making it impossible to reverse?




No one is pushing for homophobia against Igbo. Instead, it's some Igbos who are fanning the embers of tribalism in 9ja.
Ironsi was very tribalistic and bias. He didn't punish the coup plotters who were all igbos except one. And no igbo leader was killed in the accused corrupt govt. He instead promoted them and ensured they had their salaries. Then he ran a unitary system of government which was built around Igbos. Virtually all the leaders aside regional leaders are Igbos.

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by DIVINEEVIDENCE: 11:07am On May 23
aariwa:
Aguiyi wasn’t smart, was only a brave soldier. Nzeogwu, Madiebo and Ojukwu were far smarter than him . The way he opened his mouth to that food for a man at his level in life then that doesn’t have any business eating or drinking outside tells me a lot about him

I think he was just another local chap who got drafted into the military and had the responsibility of governance thrust upon him.

Finesse was definitely not an in-thing for Nigerians wen never tear eye then.

Look up old fotos if your family has any.
The yards of material used to sew coats and skirts then could build a small tent today.

You can't even imagine a local government charmain carrying food in his hand today.

That's how far we have come.

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by Osanoghodua1: 11:10am On May 23
Ironsi packed Nigeria into unity system of government. He's the cause of the present day problem.
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by victorazy(m): 11:14am On May 23
aariwa:
Aguiyi wasn’t smart, was only a brave soldier. Nzeogwu, Madiebo and Ojukwu were far smarter than him . The way he opened his mouth to that food for a man at his level in life then that doesn’t have any business eating or drinking outside tells me a lot about him

He was just selfish and dull, only fvcking Hausa girls.

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by diamond68: 11:20am On May 23
Truth of the matter is that Igbo is responsible for all the suffering and hardship happening to all of us in Nigeria today but they refuse to apologize to the rest of us and are crying victims which angers the rest of us that the perpetrator is crying that he is the victim. Till they apologize to all of us the Igbo man should just sit out the political arena till 2100AD. Azikiwe and ironsi and pa nwabueze and the Igbo Zionist intelligentsia had this plan all along before power was handed to them by the British. Azikiwes father had trained him into Igbo Zionism and this is why he was always making statements like IT IS THE IGBO MANS DIVINE RIGHT TO RULE NIGERIA. So understand that this Igbo Zionist intelligentsia plot was hatched before the British handed over power to them. They had already known that they want to control all the country and abolish regional powers. And so they executed the mission and killed all the regional leaders of the other regions and then ironsi banned all the regional government and then pa nwabueze drew up the new constitution while eradicating secession clause so that you can’t get out of this subjugation by the Igbo intelligentsia.. this whole process is called COOKING THE FOOD. Unfortunately for Igbo intelligentsia when it was time to eat the sweet food they prepared Fulani came and snatched the food and Igbo has been crying ever since. Crying victim when they are the ones who brought us into this unified suffering and hardship. This why we are all still secretly mad at Igbo. Igbo you need to sit out your political aspirations till 2100AD maybe by then we would have forgiven you. And because Fulani snatch the food away from Igbo mouth the Igbo man decided well if I can’t rule you all, I want to rule myself hence this formation of the new movement the cry for Biafra seperation. All Igbo intelligentsia madness and wayo wayo

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by africanman85: 11:22am On May 23
aariwa:
Aguiyi wasn’t smart, was only a brave soldier. Nzeogwu, Madiebo and Ojukwu were far smarter than him . The way he opened his mouth to that food for a man at his level in life then that doesn’t have any business eating or drinking outside tells me a lot about him
Ironsi was a down to earth army officer who doesn't look down on his junior officers. Will IBB allow a far junior officer of that rank to collect food from same buffet like Ironsi did ? Is quite unfortunate that the North took advantage of his kindness and tag him a weakling.
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by vibratingpenis: 11:25am On May 23
Jagaban2012:
Aguyi Ironsi , the man who used his greed to destroy regional government . Now , everybody is groaning because of his yeye selfish policy ....


So tinubu hand no dey for what is happening on Nigeria now?
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by Oseone1: 11:31am On May 23
DMerciful:
This is a lame argument you people refused to recover from because you wanna push Igbo hate.

Firstly, he stayed in power for 5months and unify the civil service 45 days before he was assassinated. If Nigeria did not want that policy, who enforced it after he was killed? Why did the new government not repeal the decree?

Secondly, when Ironsi was killed, it was still 4 regions renamed as 4 states. Why did Gowon divide the 4 states to 12 states making it impossible to reverse?
You dey mind dem? History without fact

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by phorget(m): 11:51am On May 23
Jagaban2012:
Aguyi Ironsi , the man who used his greed to destroy regional government . Now , everybody is groaning because of his yeye selfish policy ....



Cant it be reversed?🤷‍♂️
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by phorget(m): 11:54am On May 23
DMerciful:
This is a lame argument you people refused to recover from because you wanna push Igbo hate.

Firstly, he stayed in power for 5months and unify the civil service 45 days before he was assassinated. If Nigeria did not want that policy, who enforced it after he was killed? Why did the new government not repeal the decree?

Secondly, when Ironsi was killed, it was still 4 regions renamed as 4 states. Why did Gowon divide the 4 states to 12 states making it impossible to reverse?


My brother abeg help me ask them o, they are always coming up with the same excuses. Ironsi was there for less than six months, even if at all he did what they are now accusing him of then that means the government after Ironsi till date cant reverse whatever Ironsi might have done.

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by Irony1: 12:15pm On May 23
aguluobi:
You are exceedingly foolish looking for whom to blame instead of blaming the culprit.

Why did this bastard Ironsi orchestrate a coup against Nigeria in the first place ?

Why did the oloriburuku bastard Ironsi abolition regional govt in the first place ?

Those are questions you should ask you father's before any other.


Another lie from the pit of hell. Ironsi never orchestrated any coup. the coup was carried out by Ifeajuna, Ademoyega, Anuforo, Nzeogwu and Okafor all of them were Majors. take it easy and read wide before lying here
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by Irony1: 12:16pm On May 23
aguluobi:
Look at the foolish comparison by this dull headed ipob. So you are here justifying why some hopelessly senseless igbos orchestrated coup killing democratically elected government not from their ethnic group in droves ?! All foolish soul with your type of mentality deserved to be beaten to death I swear.



So Major Ademoyega, Captain Adeleke and Lt Fola Oyewole are all IPOB right
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by Irony1: 12:17pm On May 23
aguluobi:
Which coup dis Obasanjo n your ipob father orchestrate ?!


Obasanjo and Muritala were aware of the 1975 coup against Gowon and they supported it
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by Irony1: 12:19pm On May 23
Jagaban2012:


You are the stupid person, and you just showed your ignoramus. If you were smart enough, comparing a football manager with the past head of State is absurd....You supposed to fully understand the whole story before absurdly commenting on it. You don't know anything about what you commented on. Sit your butt down and read about Thomas Aguyi Ironsi, then you will know how stupid you are by this comment.

I think you are the stupid person, because you find it difficult to understand the analogy this guy was using for a Football manager. The issue with you guys is that these lies have now been busted because of social media and igbos are coming out to tell the story as it is, you guys used the fact that igbos were recovering from the civil war to push so many lies and distortions to history.
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by Irony1: 12:19pm On May 23
Jagaban2012:


What do you know about history ....? Lets hear your own story or you smell away from my mention ...

The same frustrated people from one poto poto region

Oga see ehn hope you know that ethnic baiting and dog whistling is a criminal offence
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by LOVEGINO(m): 12:23pm On May 23
Jagaban2012:
Aguyi Ironsi , the man who used his greed to destroy regional government . Now , everybody is groaning because of his yeye selfish policy ....

loud am comrade.

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Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by Irony1: 12:24pm On May 23
T9ksy:



Oga chill a minute! Your Ironsi sets the ball rolling. If he hadn't started this unitary nonsense, Gowon and by extension, his kingmakers would have nothing to capitalised on.


you are not a sincere person, look at your statement all because you want to push a narrative against Ironsi and igbos. Look with or without Ironsi's decree the north would have enacted any decree. you guys are oblivious of what happened before the coup. Balewa had already neutralised the Western region by taking out AG guys with Awo being jailed already. the next plan was the eastern region after walloping the west, they were already fuelling dissident groups in the minorities against the igbos of the eastern region especially Adaka Boro, that was why as Balewa was killed Boro went ahead and declared Niger delta republic, it is ironic that he wanted a republic in the delta of only Ijaws and he was grabbing and marking terriroties of the eastern region up to Ikot ekpene and Uyo, which meant he was actually doing the same thing he was criticizing igbos of doing. so the thing was that the Jan 66 boys knew of the plan and beat the north to it, so it was not about Ironsi at all.
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by Irony1: 12:25pm On May 23
Jagaban2012:


Quality of life on ill-gotten wealth ..don't forget ..most of your brothers are in Bangkok , Thailand , Dubai, South africa prison for drug -related offences...the only tribe that drug pushers , Kidney-harvest , baby factory , and harlotry embedded in their norms ,morals ,culture and values...nothing is bad about....

Show me 10 richest men in Yiibo land ....and i will tell you the ten men who has using shady deals to to cash ....and this is why the rich men in Ibo land is not name among Forbes magazine ...because their sources of wealth might be questionable


so no Yoruba man was rich via Shady deals. Oga stop derailing the thread and have small sense.
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by Putinofrussia: 12:31pm On May 23
Pogba12:

North Book
One gone,the other ....
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by themanderon: 12:38pm On May 23
Jagaban2012:
Aguyi Ironsi , the man who used his greed to destroy regional government . Now , everybody is groaning because of his yeye selfish policy ....


Stupidity is when you keep blaming a man that died decades ago for the mistakes you are still making today.
Shebi your Lord and Savior is president why is he not advocating for a return to regional government? Some people just like being deliberately stupid.
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by Irony1: 12:42pm On May 23
MartinCorridon:

Awolowo asked for a team up from Azikiwe.

Awo heard on radio that Azikiwe had ran up North to betray him.

The "over-smartness" of Zik turned him and his people into 3rd Class citizens.

Nzeogwu et al. Did 1966 coup and killed SW and Northern leaders while sparing the lives or Igbo leaders. Again those whose leaders were killed learnt a lesson and decide to teach the "over-smart" ones by making them 3rd Class citizens.

Ojukwu ruthlessly crushed secession of Niger-Delta because of greed for their oil resources. Same Ojukwu felt he was oversmart and still declared secession and wanted the same oil rich region.

Since 1999, Igbos preferred to slave for the North in PDP. They enjoyed Yorubas being minority and in opposition. After more than 23 years of slavery, some of you have learnt a lesson from oversmartness. Some haven't.

Don't blame Yoruba and the North for being your colonial masters. Trying to be oversmart and then being outsmarted is the fault of your ancestors. Blame them for their foolishness. grin


Oga stop being stupid and stop spreading lies here. First of all Awolowo and Zik wanted to enter an alliance, but the British refused because during the 1959 elections, the results though the NPC of the north had more seats they didn't have the popular votes rather it was NCNC that had the popular votes followed by AG. Based on this the result was a hung parliament, which meant that any two parties who can form a coalition can get majority seat. Sardauna Ahmadu Bello fearing a southern domination stated that if only the southern parties enter a coalition, the north will not enter into independence, the British now decided that it has to be NPC with any party in the south. it was ironic that Awolowo and Zik were at a meeting in Asaba, when Ahmadu Bello called Zik and indicated that Akintola was in Kaduna to meet with him on a possible coalition.
That angered Zik and he felt betrayed by Awolowo and as such he entered the coalition. so brother stop that lie that Awo heard via radio that Zik and Sardauna entered coalition.

Concerning Adaka Boro's Niger delta rebellion, it was not Ojukwu that crushed it because Ironsi was alive when that rebellion happened it was the 3rd Division Enugu who dispatched Major John Obienu who captured Adaka Boro at Ahoada in Port Harcourt. Once again stop spreading lies, Ojukwu didn't crush Adaka Boro's rebellion despite that he was the Governor of Eastern region, it was Ironsi that ordered the 3rd Batallion Enugu under Major John Obienu to capture Boro.

So stop the lies, if igbos rallied under PDP they are not slaves to them anyone can decide where he wants to go it is not by force to align with APC. Even at that aren't igbos not proved right that APC was a disaster?
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by themanderon: 12:44pm On May 23
Creamypie:
ogami. Greedy Ironsi, Ben nwabueze and others started everything by abolishing regional government and establishment of central or unitary government. It has nothing to do with creation of states by dividing it into regions. The purpose of creation was for identity of the many minority tribes that make up southern Nigeria today, and creating Igbo states b4 d war, cos the oil in D was seen by gowon as one of ojujwus reasons for Biafra creation. Subsequent governments followed suit. Who no like power. Infact ironsi wasn't even supposed to enter power as the coup by them nzeogwu had been suspended, .nwafor orizu, senate president and fellow igboman, was the supposed to be president, as azikiwe was away and balewa had been killed, but for ironsi longthroat.B4 any person insult me, I be deltan and an urhobo man from ughelli north

As the unitary rubbish did not work out so what has stopped the different tribes that took over from him from reversing it? Laws are meant to be amended if it does not suit it's intended purpose ain't it?
So 1000yrs from now you will still be blaming ironsi while holding on to the system he brought knowing full well it doesn't favour you? To me that's foolishness.
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by Irony1: 12:44pm On May 23
Tareq1105:


They like to taunt other tribes and when you now take them through History they want to waive it off.

is it not you Bigoted Yorubas that are desperately trying to waive it off, you guys cannot stand superior argument because you don't have facts. honestly the best thing that happened is the internet and social media, if not all these lies that have persisted for years will not have been busted as it is busted now.
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by MartinCorridon: 12:44pm On May 23
Irony1:


Irony1 to his useless homosexual father and his spermbank wh0re mother:

You're a 3rd Class citizen who has no say.

Oga stop being stupid and stop spreading lies here. First of all Awolowo and Zik wanted to enter an alliance, but the British refused because during the 1959 elections, the results though the NPC of the north had more seats they didn't have the popular votes rather it was NCNC that had the popular votes followed by AG. Based on this the result was a hung parliament, which meant that any two parties who can form a coalition can get majority seat. Sardauna Ahmadu Bello fearing a southern domination stated that if only the southern parties enter a coalition, the north will not enter into independence, the British now decided that it has to be NPC with any party in the south. it was ironic that Awolowo and Zik were at a meeting in Asaba, when Ahmadu Bello called Zik and indicated that Akintola was in Kaduna to meet with him on a possible coalition.
That angered Zik and he felt betrayed by Awolowo and as such he entered the coalition. so brother stop that lie that Awo heard via radio that Zik and Sardauna entered coalition.

Concerning Adaka Boro's Niger delta rebellion, it was not Ojukwu that crushed it because Ironsi was alive when that rebellion happened it was the 3rd Division Enugu who dispatched Major John Obienu who captured Adaka Boro at Ahoada in Port Harcourt. Once again stop spreading lies, Ojukwu didn't crush Adaka Boro's rebellion despite that he was the Governor of Eastern region, it was Ironsi that ordered the 3rd Batallion Enugu under Major John Obienu to capture Boro.

So stop the lies, if igbos rallied under PDP they are not slaves to them anyone can decide where he wants to go it is not by force to align with APC. Even at that aren't igbos not proved right that APC was a disaster?

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