proudly9ja: ^^^^
I have been saying this for years about Wenger! Even if that's how he feels, he shouldn't be saying it in public! He shouldn't be saying things like 4th place is like a trophy, Carling Cup is not a priority, etc. How do you motivate players to put in their best?

mukina2: pursestrings and respect? wenger is high on sontin

he is lucky his first match against Arsenal is away the boos wont be so loud.

Pataki: ^^I read it too. My thoughts exactly. If Wenger wants the Arsenal fan to respect van Persie, he should have done the same thing. Van Persie will surely get what he deserves this Saturday.

HNIC: Van Persie scored 132 goals in 278 games for Wenger's side and the Frenchman hopes the travelling supporters will cut him some slack at Old Trafford.

"I don't know [what reception he'll get but] I hope it is a respectful one because he has played for us for eight years, he has done very well for us," said Wenger.

"You want him to be respected. We campaign against discrimination, it was still the case last week so why should it not be the case this week? I don't know [what the fans will do], I think he will get the reception I hope for.

Is Arsene Wenger really serious, when he says these things, or like a 'father' that he is, he just wants to douse the athmosphere....
The away fans will let Robin know what he did on Saturday!!!
Respect my a**.
Did he think of respect when he released that stupid a** statement?

edoyad:






Tell me exactly what did RVP do wrong? A young boy of about 20 years joined Arsenal at a point in history when even Barca and Madrid wanted to play like us, now even Swansea have more purposeful ambitions.

Look, this thing is simple, Arsenal now considers qualifying for UCL as a trophy, fine. But we shouldn't expect everyone to buy that bull crap, cos that's what it is. Bull Crap.

folahann:
You're asking for what Van Persie did wrong?
Stop smoking marijuana, it's not good for your health, it has a great effect on your brain.

mukina2: ^
abeg stop sniffing ya armpit its making you high

proudly9ja: I accept there's a big gap between the first and second team but its not really been a big issue in the CC. We've qualified for the QF for close to 10 years now which isn't bad. We got knocked out last season by ManCity, the eventual league winners and the previous season, we lost in the final. In yesterday's game, truth be told, we had no biz going 4 goals down with the team on the field.

For the team, I believe one can help a 'not too good' team put up a brave fight against any team by motivating them the right way and ONE of the ways of motivating them is by harping it into their ears that second place isn't good enough IMO.
I'm not making excuses for our past failures, we just need the manager to instill the right attitude in the players. Even AW harps on about right mental attitude and 'spirit'. Those two don't come if the coach keeps telling the team 4th place is like a trophy.

As for the gap between the first team and up an coming players, do you think its because our first team has improved over the years or because our youth set up has failed to roll out quality players or both?

edoyad:

Stop being a blind follower, that kind of attitude leads to genocides.

This guy has been loyal to Arsenal Fans, he may have a problem with the management, but I don't recall him dissing the Fans in anyway.

debosky: Dunno what 4uller and co are on about. The manner of departure will always determine booing or otherwise. RVP's departure was insulting to Arsenal FC and was patronising. I fully endorse booing to the max in this case. No one boos Kolo or Clichy and it's because they departed respectfully.

debosky: I will boo him at the top of my voice. As long as we win I don't care which of the scumtwats score.

coogar:

win? tomorrow?
i expect another can of arsewhupping.....6-1 or 5-1

4llerbuntu: Having nightmares thinking about Valencia v Santos.

not sure im gonna watch oo

edoyad: Tell me exactly what did RVP do wrong? A young boy of about 20 years joined Arsenal at a point in history when even Barca and Madrid wanted to play like us, now even Swansea have more purposeful ambitions.

Look, this thing is simple, Arsenal now considers qualifying for UCL as a trophy, fine. But we shouldn't expect everyone to buy that bull crap, cos that's what it is. Bull Crap. Not every one is Francesco Totti, people with exceptional abilities like to see their effort yielding results.

There's still a video of an exceptional teenager on YouTube, whose dream was to play either for Arsenal or Barca. Mind you, he mentioned Arsenal first. This was around 2002 thereabout. How many teenagers feel the same way a decade later. The young man in question was RVP.

debosky:

You are contradicting yourself if despite the supposed lack of motivation we've reached 10 Q/Fs then motivation ain't the problem. Going down 4 goals is a one off - playing an 18 year old gk, djourou, an off form JD and a clueless Frimpong all in the same game is a recipe for disaster whichever way you look at it. Again down to squad quality - Utd could call on Lindergaard, we used a pure rookie.



'brave fight' means nothing - besides was coming back from 4 goals not 'brave'?? This is all about winning, and as long as other teams have better players, you won't win. The problem isn't attitude it's quality. Whether you like it or not, 4th place is like a trophy - just ask Liverpool. I wonder who remembers they won CC last season, or Birmingham before them?

United could call on a 20 goal chicha and Nani, our second string was Chamakh and Arshavin - the very definition of off form players. That's the difference not motivation.

Team in full: Mannone, Sagna, Mertesacker, Vermaelen, Santos, Arteta, WIlshere, Ramsey, Cazorla, Podolski, Giroud.

Subs: Martinez, Koscielny, Jenkinson, Coquelin, Walcott, Arshavin, Chamakh.

mukina2: poor game poor play stupid defence, stupid everything

what annoyed the most .. santos

and to add to that he begged pursestrings for his jersey right at half time