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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 8:25pm On Nov 29, 2019
Fkhalifa:

Now hope we can die the matter now, we have a new manager, so everyone including Mustafi and Xhaka are fresh again, no excuse.

We already saw what the team and some players looked like under Wenger and Emery..let's see what's going to unfold, like you said it's a matter of time, we shall know the players to be shovelled out by the fans.

I trust the fans to react.
I accept that
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 8:58pm On Nov 29, 2019
Fkhalifa:


He is a CM, just that the manager has been confusion things, he plays Torreira far up,Plays Guen as DM etc..

Let's see how he's faired as a CM.

I think it'll be fair if we know the kinda passes he's giving. We all know 90% of his passes are mostly sideway passes. As a Cm, more of key passes are to be expected from him. So if you can bring that let's see.
Also, I wouldn't wanna drag this further, let it don't be misunderstood I hate him tho

And I also feel Roland17 have tackled the rest. All what he said concerning the stats I what I even have in mind. But we all move.
I hope ljumberg impresses and we hope to see our arsenal we all fell in love with back.

Ehen...now I remember, you still dey port go Liverpool? grin grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 10:55pm On Nov 29, 2019
Jodera:
I think it'll be fair if we know the kinda passes he's giving. We all know 90% of his passes are mostly sideway passes. As a Cm, more of key passes are to be expected from him. So if you can bring that let's see.
Also, I wouldn't wanna drag this further, let it don't be misunderstood I hate him tho

And I also feel Roland17 have tackled the rest. All what he said concerning the stats I what I even have in mind. But we all move.
I hope ljumberg impresses and we hope to see our arsenal we all fell in love with back.

Ehen...now I remember, you still dey port go Liverpool? grin grin grin

Those stats are just to prove he isn't worthless, yes I was aware of the playing time excuse they'd respond I with, and it was because he was earning his spot till the whole team dabarus..

I still dey reason liverpool cheesy, if they can go unbeaten lasan, where's our pride again? My brain is already there but my spirit isn't..

Until I see an Arsenal side that play fearless, energetic quality football, I don't trust this lads..
The 2007/08 set were the last convincing side I love.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 11:49pm On Nov 29, 2019
Fkhalifa:


Those stats are just to prove he isn't worthless, yes I was aware of the playing time excuse they'd respond I with, and it was because he was earning his spot till the whole team dabarus..

I still dey reason liverpool cheesy, if they can go unbeaten lasan, where's our pride again? My brain is already there but my spirit isn't..

Until I see an Arsenal side that play fearless, energetic quality football, I don't trust this lads..
The 2007/08 set were the last convincing side I love.
Well, I don't just know, but I think I've a feeling ljumberg will do well just the way lampard is doing at Chelsea.
Also, I hope for our sake, Liverpool does not do unbeaten o. grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 12:48am On Nov 30, 2019
While this is an interim position, it is neither a grace period or a time to experiment with losses. The season is still relatively young because we are only 13 games into the season and I believe we have the squad to salvage this mess. You will not get a pass from me because of the interim tag, we can not continue to set the bar low.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iPopAlomo(m): 2:52am On Nov 30, 2019
Roland17:
@ipopAlomo, your sabbatical should be over by now.


Yes nah... Since last week sef... I knew his time was up...

Congratulations to all of us... But another problem has arise... The Arsenal board are taking a piss... And we're in big trouble.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iPopAlomo(m): 2:53am On Nov 30, 2019
What's that bastard Liverpool fan doing here...

Coming to preach the gospel of grinding football again...

Fucking clown...

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 5:37am On Nov 30, 2019
Roland17:
While this is an interim position, it is neither a grace period or a time to experiment with losses. The season is still relatively young because we are only 13 games into the season and I believe we have the squad to salvage this mess. You will not get a pass from me because of the interim tag, we can not continue to set the bar low.
Not even 2/3 games to sort some things out? You sef go harsh o smiley
It's true there isn't time, but it's difficult he gets it straight away, I think it would have been better during one of the international breaks, maybe an indoor friendly could do.
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I think every new manager need a pre season to experiment things.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 5:39am On Nov 30, 2019
Jodera:
Well, I don't just know, but I think I've a feeling ljumberg will do well just the way lampard is doing at Chelsea.
Also, I hope for our sake, Liverpool does not do unbeaten o. grin grin

They can do anything but unbeaten, na our pride.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Tarabye: 6:34am On Nov 30, 2019
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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 7:12am On Nov 30, 2019
Fkhalifa:


They can do anything but unbeaten, na our pride.
I swear bro. Na our only pride bdat for EPL o
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 7:18am On Nov 30, 2019
Roland17:
While this is an interim position, it is neither a grace period or a time to experiment with losses. The season is still relatively young because we are only 13 games into the season and I believe we have the squad to salvage this mess. You will not get a pass from me because of the interim tag, we can not continue to set the bar low.
I agree with what you said totally. And I also believe the transition will be smoother since he was the assistant coach, and not an outsider entirely, plus the great rapport he had with the players. The season is still young as you said and we're just 8points adrift of top 4. I pray and hope ljumberg gets it right cos the 8point gap is possible.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 8:03am On Nov 30, 2019
Steve bould get hard luck sha, just when it should be him replacing ebening he was sent to the youths
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 8:16am On Nov 30, 2019
Real Madrid are considering offering Colombia midfielder James Rodriguez, 28, to Arsenal in exchange for unsettled Gabon striker Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang, 30
BBC.

I won't mind if this is true, the young CF need playing time or they turn gnarby, Adelaide.
We can recall nketiah to compete with martinelli and Jules while laca become the top of.
James can play 10 or wing that will make it easy to switch between him and ozil
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by PapalsBull(m): 8:18am On Nov 30, 2019
I actually feel pity for Emery even though I was angry with his football pattern.

Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Tarabye: 8:44am On Nov 30, 2019
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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 9:15am On Nov 30, 2019
Tarabye:

Teams are boasting of 100 points, some 20 league title, some champions league trophies, other legends
You are here shouting unbeaten with 12 draws
Yeah of course. Everyone with their pride and as long as it have not been broken, it's still a record. To go 38match unbeaten, through the good and not so good times during that era is no mean feat. And as long as you use it to carry league, then it's really worth it. It would have been scandalous if we're boasting of unbeaten yet finished 2nd or 3rd. Records are different and this is one of such great record.
I can't believe you bought into one of those Raumdeuter's and his crew miseducation about our unbeaten and disregarding it as if it is an easy feat. Smh

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 9:18am On Nov 30, 2019
iamoyindamola:
Steve bould get hard luck sha, just when it should be him replacing ebening he was sent to the youths
e sweet me. I know even know wetin bould dey do since Wenger days. He doesn't seem to have rapport with the team sef
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 9:19am On Nov 30, 2019
Jodera:
e sweet me. I know even know wetin bould dey do since Wenger days. He doesn't we to have rapport with the team sef
me too, the guy no just day like dele
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 9:21am On Nov 30, 2019
iamoyindamola:
me too, the guy no [/b]just day like dele[b]
grin grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Tarabye: 9:48am On Nov 30, 2019
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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 10:14am On Nov 30, 2019
Tarabye:

Liverpool will break that record this season in emphatic style, mark my words, had Liverpool not loose to city last season that record would have been a goner by now with much points and a lot of record broken much more than what arsenal achieved
Of course I will take it an easy feat to achieve as long as Liverpool almost did it last season and are on the course of doing it this season
In the world of football making much points in a season is regarded more than achieving an unbeaten
Why was Liverpool praised so much last season more than their rivals city cuz in the history of premier league no team which finished second has made 97 point a season so it's the record to be accesed, think of it had Liverpool finished with that much points and gone unbeaten throughout the season finishing second what do you think the media would do, they will critics everywhere, but that single loose saved their ass and were instead praised
All these okpata yarns the record is still being held Arsenal, almost doesn’t break records.

Case closed!!
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 11:00am On Nov 30, 2019
Tarabye:

Liverpool will break that record this season in emphatic style, mark my words, had Liverpool not loose to city last season that record would have been a goner by now with much points and a lot of record broken much more than what arsenal achieved
Of course I will take it an easy feat to achieve as long as Liverpool almost did it last season and are on the course of doing it this season
In the world of football making much points in a season is regarded more than achieving an unbeaten
[/b]Why was Liverpool praised so much last season more than their rivals city cuz in the history of premier league no team which finished second has made 97 point a season so it's the record to be accesed, think of it had Liverpool finished with that much points and gone unbeaten throughout the season finishing second what do you think the media would do, they will critics everywhere, but that single loose saved their ass and were instead praised[b]
And if they don't finish the season unbeaten, what will happen? Don't worry sha, I'll tag you back anytime it happens, and you can do so. Let's see who will eat whose words.

Back to the bolded, I can assure, in 5yrs time nobody will remember the crop of players who finished 2nd with 97points, cos it didn't yield any result. They'll always be regarded as the team who won champions league. In this world we are, nobody remembers 2nd position. Either first or nothing. And one thing is certain, if Liverpool do unbeaten, but Manchester city pip dem to the league (even if Liverpool had greater point than arsenal invincible), arsenal of 2004 will still be greater than them. And even if they win d league with unbeaten, they'll be regarded together. [/b]one thing is certain, Nobody remember points won wen carrying league except that point is a record breaking point[b]. Na dem Raumdeuter's theology that's making you think otherwise, and I'm surprised people are buying into it.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 11:04am On Nov 30, 2019
kokaneprodigy:

All these okpata yarns the record is still being held Arsenal, almost doesn’t break records.

Case closed!!
boss thank you o. Na real opata yarns. Na only for nairaland you go see person dey trash arsenal's unbeaten. All thanks to Dayo. That guy na real influence
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by iamoyindamola(m): 11:17am On Nov 30, 2019
Jodera:
boss thank you o. Na real opata yarns. Na only for nairaland you go see person dey trash arsenal's unbeaten. All thanks to Dayo. That guy na real influence
we are the only team with golden trophy the fa know why they didn't give city 100points
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Nobody: 11:30am On Nov 30, 2019
Jodera:
boss thank you o. Na real opata yarns. Na only for nairaland you go see person dey trash arsenal's unbeaten. All thanks to Dayo. That guy na real influence
they called something unbeaten they said we played draws.

Unbeaten and winning streak are they same?

If u played draw were u beaten?
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 11:33am On Nov 30, 2019
iamoyindamola:
we are the only team with golden trophy the fa know why they didn't give city 100points
help me ask dem o. Why didn't fa say unbeaten with 12draws. Lmao
Some people are just impossible walahi
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 11:37am On Nov 30, 2019
kokaneprodigy:
they called something unbeaten they said we played draws.

[/b]Unbeaten and winning streak are they same[b]?

If u played draw were u beaten?
leave dem, dey wan define unbeaten for us again.
If we allow diz thing linger on, I'm won't be surprised if we'll see see something like
" Unbeaten suppose be 90% winning, 10% draws" grin grin
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 2:25pm On Nov 30, 2019
Jodera:
I think you're sticking away from what I asked not the other way round.
When we talk about attributes of a footballer, we talk of finishing, passes, tackles, interception, good crossing, dribble etc. Fighting spirit and confidence isn't an attribute of a footballer( tho I won't deny it's needed in football presently). So, arsenal won't miss him, if doesn't have any outstanding attribute. He doesn't give key passes, he doesn't score, he doesn't assist, he's not good aerially, he's not an effective tackler nor a good interceptor. He's not good at shielding defence nor even reading of the game. So you feel with these limitations, just fighting spirit and confidence (which isn't attribute sef) will what will mk arsenal as a team miss him, then I don't know what to say. All these hardwork without result will take a club no where.
Sanchez tracking of back and fighting spirit always yield out result, same as martinelli. I feel if martinelli is given the type of chance guen is having, perhaps we'll have more points than what we currently have.
Everyone knows ozil needs a good DM to shine and that's why he shone the season we had cazorla and coquelin as our two base players
That would be asking too much from Guendouzi.
Good point though.

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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Roland17(m): 2:56pm On Nov 30, 2019
Tarabye:
Patrick Vieira is the "right man" to become Arsenal boss, according to former Gunners goalkeeper David Seaman.

Arsenal are starting their search for a new manager for only the second time in 23 years after sacking Unai Emery.

And ex-Gunners captain Vieira, now manager of Nice, could be a candidate.

"I am sure Arsenal fans would love Patrick to come back to the club. Knowing Patrick, I think he would be the right man," Seaman told THE WORLD.

"I knew what he was like as a player. I knew what he was like as a captain. He was a born leader and everybody knows that. Maybe go down that route instead of a tried and tested route."

Freddie Ljungberg, 42, is the caretaker boss but Seaman says he hopes his former team-mate does not get the job.

"This job is much bigger than what Freddie is used to at the moment," said the ex-England international.

"He has only just got into the coaching side of the game and he will be really avant-garde as a manager but while he is taking charge now, please try and get some sort of defensive formation sorted out."

What have Vieira and Ljungberg done in management so far? Who are the other candidates? Tarabye takes a look.

Massimiliano Allegri
Current job: Unemployed

Previous teams managed: Aglianese, SPAL, Grosseto, Lecco, Sassuolo, Cagliari, AC Milan, Juventus

Major trophies won: 6 Serie A titles, 4 Italian Cups, 3 Italian Super Cups

The most successful manager on this list in recent years, the 52-year-old Italian won Serie A in all his five seasons with Juventus - with four of those titles part of domestic doubles - before leaving in May.

He also led Juventus to two Champions League finals, losing to Barcelona in 2015 and Real Madrid in 2017.

Allegri, who won a Serie A title with AC Milan as well, has never worked outside Italy before.

"I have heard Allegri mentioned," said Seaman. "He still has problems with the English language and that is another problem that Emery had. The way he came over and in the press, I used to see him on the sidelines when he was waving his arms and shouting and not many players were looking at him."

Nuno Espirito Santo
Current job: Wolves head coach

Previous teams managed: Rio Ave, Valencia, Porto

Major trophies won: None

Portuguese Nuno, 45, has built up a fantastic reputation in two and a half seasons with Wolves. He helped the West Midlands club to the Championship title in his first season, before guiding them into Europe for the first time since 1980 - playing some excellent football on the way.

In his first managerial job he led Rio Ave to two cup finals in Portugal, although they lost both - and into Europe for the first time. He has also managed Valencia - where he was replaced by Gary Neville after resigning - and Porto, although he is yet to win any major trophies.

Fredrik Ljungberg
Current job: Arsenal interim head coach

Previous teams managed: None

Major trophies won: None

Swede Ljungberg, 42, has the least managerial experience on this list - but the most Arsenal pedigree. He played 214 times for the Gunners, scoring 46 times, and winning two Premier League titles including their unbeaten 2003-04 campaign.

He is yet to manage a senior team, but has been manager of Arsenal's Under-15s and Under-23s - either side of a six-month spell as Wolfsburg assistant boss. He had been assistant to Emery since the summer - and steps up to take caretaker charge.

Mikel Arteta
Current job: Manchester City assistant coach

Previous teams managed: None

Major trophies won: None

The 37-year-old Spaniard was considered a certainty to get the Arsenal job when Arsene Wenger left in 2018 until their sudden appointment of Unai Emery.

Arteta played 150 times for Arsenal, captaining the side, before retiring and becoming assistant to Manchester City boss Pep Guardiola - a job he has held since 2016.

Mauricio Pochettino
Current job: Unemployed

Previous teams managed: Espanyol, Southampton, Tottenham

Major trophies won: None

The 47-year-old Argentine was sacked by Arsenal's arch-rivals Tottenham last week after five and a half years in charge - having transformed their fortunes. Spurs qualified for the Champions League four times under Pochettino, having only played in two European Cup campaigns in their history beforehand.

His teams play with a good footballing style, but he has yet to win a trophy as a manager - losing last season's Champions League final to Liverpool.

Eddie Howe
Current job: Bournemouth manager

Previous teams managed: Burnley

Major trophies won: None

The 42-year-old Englishman is a legend at Bournemouth, having led them from the League Two relegation zone to becoming an established Premier League team.

His teams have a fantastic style of football but the only concern is he has yet to win a trophy or have success at another club - he had 18 unmemorable months at Burnley in between two spells at Bournemouth.

Rafael Benitez
Current job: Dalian Yifang manager

Previous teams managed: Real Valladolid, Osasuna, Extremadura, Tenerife, Valencia, Liverpool, Inter Milan, Chelsea, Napoli, Real Madrid, Newcastle

Major trophies won: Champions League, 2 Europa League/Uefa, 2 La Liga, FA Cup, Italian Cup, Fifa Club World Cup, Uefa Super Cup, Community Shield, Italian Super Cup

The 59-year-old Spaniard has won major trophies in three different countries - England, Spain and Italy, most famously winning the 2005 Champions League with Liverpool.

He left Newcastle at the end of the season and joined Dalian Yifang in China, but recently told BBC Sport he would like to return to the Premier League one day, with his family still living in England.

Carlo Ancelotti
Current job: Napoli manager

Previous teams managed: Reggiana, Parma, Juventus, AC Milan, Chelsea, Paris St-Germain, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich

Major trophies won: 3 Champions Leagues, Premier League, Serie A, Bundesliga, Ligue 1, FA Cup, Italian Cup, Spanish Cup, 3 Uefa Super Cups, 2 German Super Cups, Community Shield, Italian Super Cup

The 60-year-old Italian is one of only three men to win three European Cups as a manager. He has won major trophies in all of Europe's top five leagues - including an FA Cup with Chelsea.

He is under pressure at Napoli after seven games without a win - with problems between club president Aurelio de Laurentiis and the players creating headlines.

Erik ten Hag
Current job: Ajax head coach

Previous teams managed: Go Ahead Eagles, Utrecht

Major trophies won: Eredivisie, Dutch Cup, Dutch Super Cup

The 49-year-old Dutchman is a hot property after leading an exhilarating Ajax to the Champions League semi-final last season - his first full campaign in charge. They ended up winning the Dutch double.

He managed Go Ahead Eagles, Bayern Munich's reserve team and Utrecht before joining Ajax - where he has an impressive win rate of 75% - in December 2017.

Brendan Rodgers
Current job: Leicester City manager

Previous teams managed: Watford, Reading, Swansea, Liverpool, Celtic

Major trophies won: 2 Scottish Premierships, 2 Scottish Cups, 3 Scottish League Cups

The 46-year-old Northern Irishman has taken Leicester to second place in the Premier League after a run of six wins in a row in all competitions.

Guarantees good football and almost led Liverpool to the Premier League title before winning every Scottish trophy on offer and then leaving for Leicester. Would have to drop six places and 11 points down the table if he were to join Arsenal.

"One that really sticks out for me is Brendan Rodgers," said former Arsenal goalkeeper Seaman. "But would he trade that in for Leicester because of what he has created there?"

Patrick Vieira
Current job: Nice manager

Previous teams managed: New York City FC

Major trophies won: None

The 43-year-old Frenchman is an Arsenal legend, playing 371 times for the club and winning three Premier League titles. His first coaching job was with Manchester City's youth team before joining their sister club New York City in the MLS.

Moved to French side Nice at the start of last season but has yet to make a real impact and they sit three points above the relegation zone.

Put a source to this article please...I imagine it was from BBC.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Fkhalifa(m): 3:37pm On Nov 30, 2019
The spirited Newcastle side have once again stopped the mighty City, they did it in Jan last season and now again..
They already took 6 points from spurs and utd, Newcastle aren't spectacular, but the belief and rugged attitude from players did it..

This is a major issue at Arsenal I wish should first be addressed, because teams in England do not respect big names or anyone.
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 4:08pm On Nov 30, 2019
Fkhalifa:
The spirited Newcastle side have once again stopped the mighty City, they did it in Jan last season and now again..
They already took 6 points from spurs and utd, Newcastle aren't spectacular, but the belief and rugged attitude from players did it..

This is a major issue at Arsenal I wish should first be addressed, because teams in England do not respect big names or anyone.
yeah, then imagine how our players will be with this kind of attitude. Tomorrow sha, we'll see a glimpse of what to expect from ljumberg.
Tho I hope he won't be given any permanent manager if the results come good, at least till the end of season. So that we won't fall into the "olé's trap"

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